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TsFreddie 2024-11-17 02:07

TsFreddie

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looks like hotel?

Overlord

looks like hotel?

home

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TsFreddie

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please wait for what xd

TsFreddie

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dayum looks great

04:02

im off to bed bb

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why is compiling for windows on linux such a pain?

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TsFreddie

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bro wtf

meloƞ

bro wtf

burger king didn't set limit on patty options

TsFreddie

burger king didn't set limit on patty options

bro wtf

10:15

you can ask for 100 patties if you have the money

10:16

but they'll probably just call you and ask if you want a refund since they can't make it

oof, too bad home network is behind 3 NAT

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soo.

10:38

tailscale and zerotier

10:38

which one should i use

@Koll Potato а ты что делаешь с протоколом?

pilonpl

why is compiling for windows on linux such a pain?

try to compile for linux on windows :p

Wsl ig

pilonpl

Wsl ig

so, your answer is virtualization

11:23

use docker to cross compile then kekw

https://youtu.be/J5HVis7SmP4

Wifies

"My Minecraft World is Deleting Itself..."

12:15

Wow

12:16

That probably the best minecraft arg/story i have seen

12:16

Probably the only one that makes sense

zhn

@Koll Potato а ты что делаешь с протоколом?

изучаю пока что и пишу библиотеку на расте (я знаю что уже есть libtw2)

вообще идея была создать свой клиент

12:29

я думал до меня никто это не задумывался сделать

12:29

оказывается есть один гений

TsFreddie

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You have inspired me

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why not just eat minced meat at that point

Learath2

You have inspired me

you are obviously much better at this

13:43

TsFreddie

you are obviously much better at this

Well egg consistency is a preference thing

Lol

Learath2

Well egg consistency is a preference thing

hi, can you look at the ticket for rename?

Gimme a second to eat my eggs pepeW

Bon appetit

13:48

Learath2

Well egg consistency is a preference thing

i turned my gas stove to the minimum heat. but the egg still instantly solidify

14:06

i need to heat up the butter and move it to the other stove that is not on to cook it slowly lol

14:07

chinese stove is too hot

TsFreddie

chinese stove is too hot

If your stove is too hot at minimum then you need to cook on/off the flame. Eggs cook fast so it's not that annoying to do

I add heat, take it off the flame, scramble scramble scramble. If it doesn't look right, I add more heat

14:10

You can always add heat, you can't remove heat

14:11

If I for some reason have to start with a very hot pan, I'll just turn off the stove completely, add my eggs and see what consistency it gets me. If it's too wet still, I'll turn the stove back on

14:30

too addicting

Learath2

You have inspired me

looks a bit over and dry

14:45

but you do you

Derek

looks a bit over and dry

You can measure how depressed I am from how dry I like my eggs on a given week

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so its not that terrible right now, good

14:50

im scared of you chugging 10 raw eggs when huge happiness will happen in life justatest

#!/bin/bash

# Check if at least one argument is provided
if [ "$#" -lt 1 ]; then
    echo "Usage: $0 <command> [args...]"
    exit 1
fi

# Start the command with arguments and disown it
nohup "$@" > /dev/null 2>&1 &

echo "Started: $*"

this should be a standard command

pilonpl

#!/bin/bash

# Check if at least one argument is provided
if [ "$#" -lt 1 ]; then
    echo "Usage: $0 <command> [args...]"
    exit 1
fi

# Start the command with arguments and disown it
nohup "$@" > /dev/null 2>&1 &

echo "Started: $*"

this should be a standard command

I don't know nohup but isn't <command> & disown basically the same?

nope

15:33

it doesnt discard the output of the program

Ah

its also more stuff to write

Been so long since I needed to use it that I forgor

I often want to do nemo .

15:37

And it's really annoying to do without disowning it

Ohh you're starting GUI apps from the terminal now I see why you need that

Well, it's much more convenient to start stuff from the terminal when in a project folder

Usually when I start something that I want to disown I also want to close the terminal right after

15:40

I use so few GUI apps that I don't really find the need to open them in a specific directory

15:41

When I'm programming I just use a few terminals and a browser

I usually only do code . which has the desired behaviour by default i guess

15:41

But sometimes the program i am writing generates an image

Oof, vscode user

And i might want to look at that image with an actual image editor

I did that a couple times, told an image viewer to watch a certain file on the side. I guess if I did that often enough I'd care about it being easy to start

risu

Oof, vscode user

It's just convenient tbh

15:46

Learning even just the vim motions is annoying

I can't live without vim... Editing text any other way feels like a slog

and i am kinda bad at typing

hello how all color

pilonpl

and i am kinda bad at typing

Well that's fixable with practice

maybe

15:47

but its really hard

oh

Yeah, but so is DDRace :)

i just dont press correct buttons with correct fingers

15:48

and in vim specifically entering the normal mode with esc is just so annoying

15:49

but idk what other keybind would be good

15:49

i guess people just use esc?

15:49

idk

Some people bind the capslock key to esc

15:49

I'm just used to hitting esc normally

my hands are kinda small

My hands are very average size

i think i should do typemonkey and use nvim vscode extension

15:52

with slightly better config than the default

One time we looked up the average hand size and when we measured mine it was just about exactly the same

the most annoying thing about vim is how much plugins you need

15:57

just to be as good as vscode by default

15:58

in vscode you might need like one extension per language

15:58

but it gets recommended to you

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and you can just click install

See the secret is that you don't need them

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A lot of laguages I write with just the docs open and no assistance from the editor

even getting the LSP to work is complicated

risu

A lot of laguages I write with just the docs open and no assistance from the editor

...except for syntax highlighting of course, vim-polyglot is good

Yeah i guess i like minimal setups

16:07

I don't like IDEs

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Like wtf

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Why would i need 50gb of stuff

Except for JVM stuff, I've never tried to and probably never will try using Java without an IDE

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Jetbrains my beloved

java is so annoying

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it never just works without issues

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ant the language itself is just terrible

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mainly because OOP is terrible

I'm not sure about the language being just terrible, but when people write "proper" Java it certainly sucks

16:19

If you write Java somewhat incorrectly I think it's quite tolerable

i think even python is better

16:19

well idk

16:20

i dont use java

Language feature-wise probably more comfortable at least

python also has a bit of OOP bs

but I'd probably rather write a real program in Java

i guess objects are ok if you dont try to fit everything into them

classes without a lot of inheritance are generally totally fine to deal with

i guess structs with functions are kinda like classes

16:22

and those are great so

yeah

16:23

Just don't write a GeometryConsumerBuilderStorage (flasbacks from the last time I dealt with the Minecraft renderer)

i use python a lot simply because of how easy it is to just do useful stuff

16:25

i feel like exceptions make it hard to create anything robust

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and even a simple program in go feels more robust

real

its just so great that in go i know exactly where and what errors can occur

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in python i dont even care

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when using python i mostly care about the result

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i dont care how bad the program is

16:31

i just want to do one specific thing

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in other languages i care a lot more about the code itself being good

If you feel like your code isn't robust when writing Python, try JS

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I wrote a short 70-ish line script the other day for a thing that for some dumb reason uses JS as an embedded scripting language

yeah, did you know there are two for loops? for of and for in

and I felt so terrified the entire way through it's like I couldn't trust any of the code to not silently break in some stupid way

I've got something funny I made like a year ago (it's called evil_edition because it's minified)

evil_edition.dc

262 bytes

16:39

have fun figuring out what it does :P :P :P

wow

16:40

idk if i want to run that

You might already have dc installed

whats dc

risu

I've got something funny I made like a year ago (it's called evil_edition because it's minified)

ascii ?

meloƞ

ascii ?

Hm?

i won't run it kekw

It is just a text file yeah

16:44

if you know dc you'd know that it has no file access

wtf its some super old program

Yeah :)

and its absolutely terrible

dc evil_edition.dc > out.ppm

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Or I can reveal what it does I guess

just reveal it, i dont want that program on my computer

Well here's the file with comments

mandelbrot.dc

773 bytes

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and here's a higher resolution output converted to PNG

WOW

16:48

thats awesome

16:48

i dont even know how to do that in C

it takes like a solid couple minutes to run if you run it at a high resolution because 1. dc is not that fast 2. it's outputting it all in human readable ascii so the files generated are big

yeah ppm

the 2k by 2k file before converting to png is 37M

do you have C version or something?

16:50

or did you just write this in dc from scratch

I wrote in dc from scratch but I've written it in other languages before

16:51

it's a super simple algorithm, let me write it out

yeah, idk how to do color

16:51

i guess its just how close a given point is to being in the set

16:56

it would be good to do this in a shader

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although iterating isnt good in shaders i think?

risu

it's a super simple algorithm, let me write it out

actually nvm I'm starting to worry about making it pretty and now it's taking too long lol

pilonpl

it would be good to do this in a shader

I've done it before :)

pilonpl

although iterating isnt good in shaders i think?

yeah it's not great

16:58

the fun thing though is that you can do one iteration per frame so it refines over time

do you just count the number of iterations to get the color?

Yeah, the number of iterations before it escapes the radius 2 disc

16:59

Actually using a larger radius gives you smoother colours

maybe there is a better way

and there's some fancy trick for even smoother colours where you get an estimate of the rate of escape but I've never implemented that

i like the hard edges tho

Yeah the hard edges give it some texture

i wonder if its possible to zoom in forever

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how could that work

Well you'll run out of float precision pretty quickly but you can do it with an arbitrary precision number representation

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"pretty quickly" I say but it takes a fair bit of zooming before you see the float issues

yeah

well, double issues

17:02

I haven't tried it with plain floats

do quad precision lets go

its cool that there is this ppm format

17:03

which you can encode yourself easily

yeah makes it trivially easy to write image output for little toy programs

making an actual image decoder would be interesting too

You could implement QOI for fun

17:04

Quite Okay Image

or QR code encoder and decoder

it's kind of an idie thing, has pretty good compression (almost as good as PNG) while being wayyy simpler

its just hard to find specification for some file formats

so sadly most things don't support QOI yet

17:05

https://qoiformat.org/

yeah its public domain

17:06

but what about qr codes

17:06

i did find something eventually

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but its not exacly the first search result

17:09

its actually funny that a simple algorithm can be better than PNG

Well it doesn't compress quite as well, but it's not much worse

17:10

And the reason for the speed gains is pretty obvious :)

it would be cool to have a lossless image format that takes up the same amount of space as jpg

17:11

photos of real life stuff are kinda big

pilonpl

it would be cool to have a lossless image format that takes up the same amount of space as jpg

100% quality JPG is lossless :)

17:11

but not small

well

17:12

i just want both lossless and small file size

17:12

i wonder how much compression is possible

pilonpl

i wonder how much compression is possible

Time for some information theory :)

the number of useful images is huge

17:13

so at which point can we no longer represent all of them with less information

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i guess the best theoretical way would be to encode the most probable image as a single bit

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and then it would just be an index

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where smaller values are more probable

17:20

i wonder how many images there are in the world

17:21

that are saved somewhere

17:21

because my gpu obviously creates an image every few miliseconds

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anyways

wow

17:52

i got a nice surprise

17:52

from my past self

17:52

a script that copies photos from my phone

17:52

to an external disk

17:52

and it just works

17:52

easy backup

17:53

i could just use restic i guess

17:53

but i was already using that approach before i knew about backup software

17:56

file management is just so annoying

anyone have DaRkA discord?

Deadfunir4

anyone have DaRkA discord?

дед фунир блять?

18:10

откуда ты тут

Ты кто

18:45

@wreaitexx

Deadfunir4

Ты кто

в войсе с мозиком и с тобой сидел в войсе на сервере

18:46

ты тогда еще в альтернатив батл граунд играл

а

19:12

так похуй, я ливнул с роблокса давно уже

19:12

хз кто ты

19:12

но мозик заебывает мя, в лс написывает

19:12

@wreaitexx

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