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manikoo

ti tipo dumaesh ya nastolko tupoi

Тут был каламбур типа слова Абамы в фортнайте

02:17

Ну ладно

02:17

@meloƞ whats giftzwerg

кiлiбiк

Afaik gift means poison

09:06

No idea what are zwergs, but U can find zergs in starcraft

むぎ

@meloƞ whats giftzwerg

EssexLemonEat

Overlord

No idea what are zwergs, but U can find zergs in starcraft

Zergs >> everything else

09:18

Rest is just boring

Overlord

Afaik gift means poison

poison gnomeee

meloƞ

Zergs >> everything else

Not a starcraft fan, proply because there is not enough RNG for me compared to warcraft

InsaneCat

starcraft warcraft minecraft

im proud of u can find same parts in words

owo

Kotlin or swift?

oxyzo

starcraft warcraft minecraft

teecraft when

tomorrow

gizem

Kotlin or swift?

rust

manikoo

rust

I guess you could compile that for the JVM for Kotlin interoperability, don't know how Swift works (edited)

12:02

And no I'm not shipping native code for three operating systems and five CPU architectures as part of my JVM application

manikoo

rust

Why

fast

12:44

and safe

For mobile apps right?

swift for apol

gizem

For mobile apps right?

everything

whats that question

むぎ

swift for apol

objective c

13:00

I mean i want to start mobile app programming and idk where to start

13:08

Kotlin or rust is my question now

13:08

I need to buy a macbook fpr swift but i won’t buy it since i can’t play games

@gizem i recommend flutter

13:09

its rly good for mobile

13:09

u need to learn dart but its ez

13:09

https://flutter.dev/

Flutter - Build apps for any screen

Flutter transforms the entire app development process. Build, test, and deploy beautiful mobile, web, desktop, and embedded apps from a single codebase.

13:09

if u want it to have a js frontend and rust backend u can use tauri

13:09

https://v2.tauri.app/

The cross-platform app building toolkit

13:10

well frontend can be anything

Woah too many unknown things for me

if u want to do "native apps" aka java, then just downlaod android studio

13:11

https://developer.android.com/studio

Download Android Studio & App Tools - Android Developers

Android Studio provides app builders with an integrated development environment (IDE) optimized for Android apps. Download Android Studio today.

Wym “native apps”

well i guess flutter is kinda native too

13:12

ok

13:12

my mean for native is its made with the JVM xd

13:12

so java kotlin etc

13:12

they usually blend more with the native look of the phone

My main goal is to work on mobile application programming/dedigning

13:12

With groups not individual

i guess just use android studio

It uses java right?

13:13

Oh anything

@gizem it uses the JVM

13:13

so any language that compiles to JVM bytecode works

13:13

like java, kotlin

13:13

if u can use kotlin

Best option is kotlin ig

13:14

Kotlin+android studio

yeah

13:14

if u know coding a lot more and dabbled in web dev maybe try flutter

13:15

oh android studio has a plugin for it

13:15

https://docs.flutter.dev/tools/android-studio

Android Studio and IntelliJ

How to develop Flutter apps in Android Studio or other IntelliJ products.

Ryozuki

if u know coding a lot more and dabbled in web dev maybe try flutter

No i don’t

13:15

Im just a beginner

Ryozuki

if u want to do "native apps" aka java, then just downlaod android studio

well there's "native apps" and actual native apps, but actual native code isn't meant to be used for entire applications and you'll still need some JVM glue in there Is it just me or is Android a bit of a disaster?

dart compiles to machine code

14:07

on release

oh yay, frameworks to make what's normally painful actually usable, all because we're adapting technology that was badly designed from the start

14:10

this sounds like web dev

justatest

i would just use webview like capacitorjs catbite

catbite

14:29

flutter is weird. it's like a game engine that does full frame draws where the whole app is one canvas.

14:32

although to be fair android webview can be garbage sometimes nouis

nouis

@risu Please inform me. If you are entitled to call me a "dumbass", then I would like to know your corrections.

I've only heard it as "port forwarding" or "IP forwarding", but never as "fast forwarding"

meeu

hii ryoof

nyaWave

owo

Meeu

I've only heard it as "port forwarding" or "IP forwarding", but never as "fast forwarding"

that was the only correction he made and he called me a dumbass based on this singular statement

14:58

I beg his pardon

about to fast forward myself to a point where this argument stops

3

I think this is a different argument between me and @risu , since I don't tolerate someone to call me insults without actual intelligence behind it

It'll only stop when Cellegen gets his last word in, go on Cellegen

Skeith

It'll only stop when Cellegen gets his last word in, go on Cellegen

I would like to school risu, I have no personal feelings towards our argument.

There's nothing to school him on, what you said was wrong, he was simply correcting your answer. https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/1305534708821659729

15:02

Truly nothing too complicated to think about.

And, called me a "dumbass" based on that one statement where I miss pronounced a word.

15:02

One word.

Omg cendren here

tbf one word here changes whole word meaning

Only I would like to ask besides that mispronunciation, did I lie on the argument?

15:04

And if so where? And does it have any relevance on answering one guy's question correctly?

do you tend to mispronounce stuff?

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Yes I do miss pronunce

15:05

Beside the joke, I do make mistakes and I would like to know where on that argument states that Im a "dumbass"?

Cellegen

And if so where? And does it have any relevance on answering one guy's question correctly?

yeah, if he would google "fast forwarding" it wouldn't lead to anything he wanted

i'd just go on it's not even that big of an insult (edited)

If someone would comment on one of your personal problems in life and another guy next to you says that "you are a fucking idiot", would you not punch him?

no

1 blocked message getting mad because I hurt his ego is never not going to be funny to me

cuz i dont punch people

brownbear

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♂S1mple♂

i'd just go on it's not even that big of an insult (edited)

Nop, we have to get the guillotine because of this insult

♂S1mple♂

cuz i dont punch people

And you know people that would?

they should learn to control feelings

15:10

tbh

Same principle here. I have my reasons to go after someone if that person insults me for no reason (edited)

If you have the guts to tell me I'm wrong about the whole argument, have the balls too to correct me as well.

risu

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@risu ^

i guess it's correct but the wording at least in 2 messages is off

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risu pointed that out with small insult

♂S1mple♂

risu pointed that out with small insult

DDNet rules state to be nice no? When was this behaviour accepted?

risu

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this reminds me of last nights dream, i was outside and saw a lot of big spiders and big insects there

justatest

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is punching people a nice behaviour?

15:13

even after insult (edited)

Welf

this reminds me of last nights dream, i was outside and saw a lot of big spiders and big insects there

are u sure thats a dream...

Broso56

are u sure thats a dream...

im sure it was a dream

sounds more like a nightmare justatest

justatest

XD

On self defense or rather within terms of abuse, it's a lot more tolerantable (edited)

Broso56

are u sure thats a dream...

Broso56

sounds more like a nightmare justatest

justatest

i was just sweating a bit when waking up, but nothing too serious

♂S1mple♂

yea ig it would be a dream for them

eshkere?

@risu How about I call you a dumbass instead?

Cellegen

On self defense or rather within terms of abuse, it's a lot more tolerantable (edited)

there are moderators here, you can report risu to them if you want

@risu u are a smartass

no need to make big argument over this

Welf

@risu u are a smartass

at least some part of me is smart

So, siding with a rude person is a common thing here?

no

im on the bad side now

report them

15:16

that's it

15:16

same as you can't block blockers on servers

cellegen your complaint might be justified, i have no idea, but talking about it like this wont help at anything (edited)

What do I report about even? I don't want him to get punished for free speech, but I want him to understand that saying things like that has consequences

so there's no problem all along

risu please understand that ur language might offend others

Welf

cellegen your complaint might be justified, i have no idea, but talking about it like this wont help at anything (edited)

It helps me understand who shall I not talk with in the future. DDNet's, no Teeworlds' community is a lot more rotten

also for that type of stuff you can use dms no need to make it public

Welf

risu please understand that ur language might offend others

What if I want to offend Cellegen?

You already did, even if unintentionally

risu

What if I want to offend Cellegen?

most likely that's a bad thing for this server, becaues things go better in harmony

ok ok I'll chill

calling ddnet rotten is a bit too much imo

Welf

calling ddnet rotten is a bit too much imo

I remember the past

tell me more

♂S1mple♂

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idk I talk shit in reality too

just a silly gif

15:22

idk what you both do irl

before murpi came along, the discord moderation, countless amounts of ddos, tas botting, hacked clients, unnamed botting, funvoting, map testing problems left and right, massive declines on maps, should I say more?

but generally I don't talk shit to people who I'm worried might kick my ass because I don't want an actual fight

15:23

so if Cellegen really punches people then maybe I'd just ignore him

♂S1mple♂

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It reminded me of this video https://www.tiktok.com/@naileditfencing/video/7175984871406456066 (couldn't find on yt :p)

Welf

most likely that's a bad thing for this server, becaues things go better in harmony

cave of harmony mentioned?

Cellegen

I remember the past

sounds like a phrase from rpg game lol

MilkeeyCat

It reminded me of this video https://www.tiktok.com/@naileditfencing/video/7175984871406456066 (couldn't find on yt :p)

btw does the preview work for you?

Cellegen

before murpi came along, the discord moderation, countless amounts of ddos, tas botting, hacked clients, unnamed botting, funvoting, map testing problems left and right, massive declines on maps, should I say more?

are you saying it was worse before and got better? or are you saying its bad now?

I say you guys ignore the bad that happened over the years

15:24

a lot happened in 6 years, I was here back then when we only had a forum

MilkeeyCat

btw does the preview work for you?

the embed is working

doesn't work for me lol

lol

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their embed is so loud

15:25

with no volume control cammo

cammo

MilkeeyCat

doesn't work for me lol

lol

cus react is garbage thats obvious

Cellegen

I say you guys ignore the bad that happened over the years

i can't say anything about the whole situation because i was inactive for some times, but if you have issues with the current map testing, we can talk about it and i will do my best to take care of issues.

Just don't let testers be like KoG testers, that's all I ask (edited)

save the world my final message, goodbye

i don't know kog testing

Toxic, simply put

15:28

That is why I wouldn't like to let KoG exist on #deleted-channel

Cellegen

That is why I wouldn't like to let KoG exist on #deleted-channel

that is unrelated btw

how is your progress on teegalaxy btw

i guess there is stuff from testers that can be called "toxic", but imo toxicity from testers is on a low these days

Koll Potato

how is your progress on teegalaxy btw

Im upgrading my PC setup and I'm on phone rn

alright

Welf

i guess there is stuff from testers that can be called "toxic", but imo toxicity from testers is on a low these days

Then nothing I have to worry about

Cellegen

Toxic, simply put

idk i scrolled thru some channels in testing like 2 months ago it wasn't that bad

15:30

just funny to see "boring part" on kog

The people there are egoistic in it's own right, not under a manageable environment and testers let personal interests overrule a decision.

testing can't be 100% objective anywhere because everyone has a different taste

15:34

if they force changes, well that's kinda bad

yeah we have to take subjective opinions into account when doing decisions in testing. (edited)

As I said, as long as that type of toxicity is not present here and proper management is up, I have no obligation to wrong about it

Drama!!!

15:36

Cendren always right!

yeah cendren is right

Idc call me cendren at this point fuck it

U green

15:37

Cendren green

i thought it was on accident

Welf

i thought it was on accident

at first, then people realize I'm not Cendren

guess it's a local meme

pepeW

@Cellegen can u ban someplayers on mukteasy

15:38

I can’t join

Im not mod

15:38

shoo

♂S1mple♂

testing can't be 100% objective anywhere because everyone has a different taste

True for example i hate "patchwork" while everyone else seems to love it

patchwork is an event map so it's the different case any way

>:(

Overlord

True for example i hate "patchwork" while everyone else seems to love it

bruh patchwork is nice

16:49

first time i did it in 7 hours at 5 am with my dear bros some like 1.5 years ago

16:49

when i was so noby

16:51

cuz of that i love it (edited)

manikoo

first time i did it in 7 hours at 5 am with my dear bros some like 1.5 years ago

deer

deer

17:04

deer bros

manikoo

deer bros

@Learath2 do you have pro tips how to structure high ir(read a book doesn't count)?

MilkeeyCat

@Learath2 do you have pro tips how to structure high ir(read a book doesn't count)?

Nope, you are on your own here boss

18:01

Look into 3AC, that's a useful form

I don't want something very low level, I'm thinking about something which is just one level below ast

18:06

But it would just point to items it uses and wouldn't copy types everywhere

Well think of what you want to get rid of. IRs are supposed to make your life easier. What in the AST do you want to transform out in this stage?

I have the most problems with how to make it in code

18:09

I have an idea in my noodle but when it comes to code...

take noodle, twist 3723 times - cook up in broth for 2-3 minutes - take noodle out, untwist it

18:10

tadaa - working IR

I mean it'll still be a tree unless you are planning a strong transformation

meloƞ

take noodle, twist 3723 times - cook up in broth for 2-3 minutes - take noodle out, untwist it

3rd week cooking, nothing

MilkeeyCat

3rd week cooking, nothing

damn you're a bad chef

18:10

cat_smug

Do I eat chinese or just kebab?

18:13

I'm having decision paralysis

i ordered croquettes with salad

18:15

and i have some spicy sauce in the fridge

meloƞ

i ordered croquettes with salad

I should make some croquettes tomorrow

18:18

I have lots of cheese and potatoes I need to get rid of

Learath2

I mean it'll still be a tree unless you are planning a strong transformation

I'll take rust's hir and make a stupid version of it xd

MilkeeyCat

I'll take rust's hir and make a stupid version of it xd

Is hir not represented as a tree?

Learath2

Is hir not represented as a tree?

Idk, is this a tree? The wall of text above is edited hir for

pub fn foo() {
    let c = 5 + 5;
}

Or you can test it yourself by pasting -Z unpretty="hir-tree" in compiler flags on godbolt (edited)

7.05 KB

18:40

it's actually below :p

MilkeeyCat

Idk, is this a tree? The wall of text above is edited hir for

pub fn foo() {
    let c = 5 + 5;
}

Or you can test it yourself by pasting -Z unpretty="hir-tree" in compiler flags on godbolt (edited)

looks quite tree-y to me

tee-y

@lauty На каком языке вы на самом деле говорите? Welche Sprache sprichst du eigentlich? 你到底说什么语言 Aslında hangi dili konuşuyorsun?

No hablo taka taka hijo de ****

finally

Ewan

@lauty На каком языке вы на самом деле говорите? Welche Sprache sprichst du eigentlich? 你到底说什么语言 Aslında hangi dili konuşuyorsun?

Hallo Ewan! Ich spreche deutsch, meistens.. selten... Nun ja eigentlich nur Englisch, ich verlern langsam deutsch.. help

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lauty

No hablo taka taka hijo de ****

Bajar el archivo apk del hilo Melon enlazado en #developer

21:24

Y tal vez comiences la próxima vez diciéndonos el idioma que hablas, para que podamos ayudarte

Y donde encuentro el archivo xd?

21:25

Ya fue total ni ganas tenia de jugarlo

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1277345584080097320/1300105970298654841

21:25

Adjunto aquí

21:25

.apk

21:32

i tried

Ah yes the linux

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china is blocking hard today. 90% of my proxy nodes are down. 10x more players asking about empty server list in ddnet too

23:58

justatest

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