DDraceNetwork - developer

Thinking about how to start all of this

00:47

First step is just splitting the images

00:47

Second step should be to add in the splitter and merger blocks in the codebase

heinrich5991

@ForgottenCat can you elaborate on this one? haven't heard about that

As for me this name was created only because i think using english is cool(When i was a junior high student)

01:37

You know, we speak&read chinese all the time, so maybe use english could be unique

i offer sound design for assets @voxel+jupstar

02:17

id be fine with that

02:20

i think most ddnet sounds are like, recorded with random objects

02:20

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02:20

so if you know how to do that then thatd be perfect

Who's gorp?

I'm going to try and make more concepts tommorow

morning rust coders and others

07:13

anyone knows how to model ssa ir in code

morning intel assembly syntax enjoyers and others

MilkeeyCat

morning intel assembly syntax enjoyers and others

i agree intel is better

07:14

https://github.com/edg-l/codegen/blob/master/src/ir.rs

codegen/src/ir.rs at master · edg-l/codegen

A codegen backend, for x86_64 with a llvm-like API but easily usable in Rust. - edg-l/codegen

ForgottenCat

As for me this name was created only because i think using english is cool(When i was a junior high student)

It's more about translating English words into Chinese characters

07:18

You mean some of them using western names but use chinese to express that?

Yeah

pretty weird, dunno what they think. I guess maybe they wants more people to understand what their names mean?

But generally speaking. Are using many Chinese characters as name common?. Imagine you have 15 Chinese characters instead of the current limit

07:21

Do you think many Chinese would use it

ah no i seldom see one, if there is a 15character name it must be some meme

ForgottenCat

ah no i seldom see one, if there is a 15character name it must be some meme

Well it's not about exactly 15 xD

07:23

Currently the limit is like 3 characters

for example one chinese name is "Mom said a name with too many characters can be easily found by others when you hide behind a tree" in English

07:23

That's something just to attract attention imo, Or show their personality

So the current limit is more than enough? Nobody unhappy with it

But ye i seldom see one name over 10 chinese characters, usually 2~7

ForgottenCat

But ye i seldom see one name over 10 chinese characters, usually 2~7

Can they even use 7 in the game

in ddnet it's 5 characters

Jupstar ✪

Can they even use 7 in the game

other games

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07:30

I guess our multi lingual pro tsfreddie might know which language suffers most under the limit. Dunno how many bytes the avg kanji character uses

Greek names do suffer quite a bit but I think it's ok since there aren't many Greeks (or any :p) and most of us use use english nicknames (edited)

louis

i offer sound design for assets @voxel+jupstar

One cool thing I already have in mind is having a custom pickup sound for laser. Currently it shares the same as shotgun. There is also an unused gun pickup sound sfx_pickup_gun.wv, but I think it sounds rather bad
- The no-ammo sound, the spawn sound aswell as the switch weapon sound are currently shared among all weapons, I think customizing those would be cool too.
- The main menu theme generally has a iconic melody, but IMO the instruments are too annoying. I dunno how they are even called, but e.g. the loud noises are too annoying. Something with more harmony would be nice
- I generally would like to test some kind of non-annoying freeze sound, but maybe it's too annoying, so this isn't the most important thing
- Heart and shield pickup spawn uses same sound as weapons, should be individual too. Ninja has a spawn sound but unused.. Could be changed if it sounds cool
- There are quite a few unused sounds, ninja attack, some extra unhook collision sound.
- Hit sounds for skins could be per weapon. Would make it a bit more unique

@Learath2 https://blog.toast.cafe/posix2024-xcu#the-nuclear-option

What’s New in POSIX 2024 – XCU

09:38

posix banning file names with newlines to get around shell limitations ^^

why would filenames have newlines xd

non-windows OSs allow that

i didnt ask what OSes support it

rare windows W?

imho filenames should be always valid utf8

10:05

but they arent sadly

Or simply no utf8

filenames are not like inode ids or smth, they are meant to be human representable right? they should be visible to the human

10:05

utf8 ensures that

[A-Za-z0-9_]+

10:06

Ok maybe dots too xd

hello

Imagine how easy the world would be

@Jupstar ✪ well thats a bit racist against chinese or arabs or non ascii ppl

10:06

10:06

Ryozuki

@Jupstar ✪ well thats a bit racist against chinese or arabs or non ascii ppl

I teach them english np

cyberfighter 2

hello

Hey, wazzup

Jupstar ✪

[A-Za-z0-9_]+

no cyrillic either

Just facts

10:07

Just the letters

10:07

The best

Ryozuki

@Jupstar ✪ well thats a bit racist against chinese or arabs or non ascii ppl

the bar for racism is low today

Ryozuki

why would filenames have newlines xd

mostly to exploit shell scripts that did not anticipate it

@cyberfighter 2 what is your native lang? You from like venezuela or smth right?

thats headshot wtf

10:10

im serbian

Ok ok

cyberfighter 2

im serbian

Ah how boring, europe

I actually also like that I can use all german letters in filenames

our economy isnt that broken

is it just me or does rus have the most cheaters

Dunno, ask Valve support ig

in ddnet

10:12

idk what valve would have to do with ddnet

cyberfighter 2

idk what valve would have to do with ddnet

I guess cs2/csgo gives good stats about such stuff

cyberfighter 2

in ddnet

In ddnet there are currently like 70% russians

10:13

And mostly newcomers

10:13

So dunno how well stats work xD

cyberfighter 2

is it just me or does rus have the most cheaters

But how do you came to this conclusion in first place?

well a friend made a script for me to find cheaters and like 99% of the time they are rus related

Jupstar ✪

But how do you came to this conclusion in first place?

Russian TikTok, which most of them came from. They show and advertise bot clients, TAS runs etc. on there. Not sure if they really hold r1, and I wouldn't want "Russia" to be framed as people who cheat the most. I think it's also hard to compare to other regions because their player base is much higher

10:18

I assume New players are more tempted to cheat, because it's an easy ego boost for them (edited)

meloƞ

Russian TikTok, which most of them came from. They show and advertise bot clients, TAS runs etc. on there. Not sure if they really hold r1, and I wouldn't want "Russia" to be framed as people who cheat the most. I think it's also hard to compare to other regions because their player base is much higher

what about china vs rus

Idunno, ask Freddie or smth I don't touch chinese servers

@Skeith you play a lot of china right

Some, ya

10:25

China has far less cheaters

But we all know which country has the biggest cheater

who? n9?

cyberfighter 2

who? n9?

He is just a small fish compared to the under-age cheater that I mean (edited)

noby from the US surely

10:45

heinrich5991

sv_teamdamage 1

So vanilla pros (chillerdragon, zhn). As heino pointed out correctly there is a friendly fire cmd. However I have a few problems with it: If you hit yourself with a rocket you get half the dmg, but with friendly fire on, you do full dmg to your mates. For consistency I'd either increase the self dmg to full when friendly fire is on, or also reduce the team dmg to the same amount as self dmg

<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ sv_teamdamage 1 turns on friendly fire

Yeah

<ChillerDragon> ah i was in the backlog while you wrote this

Also your eyes turn into fcking happy if you kill a team mate lol

10:48

That is brutal

<ChillerDragon> i think doing half damage to team mates makes more sense

Oke, that is also what I did for now

<ChillerDragon> its what CS:GO did and it makes it harder to farm teammates

I think csgo does that too?

10:50

Yeah

<ChillerDragon> i am not sure what the reasoning behind no laser selfdamage is

there is no difference between grenade/laser there, both laser and grenade can't hit yourself

<ChillerDragon> ah right

since laser doesn't do area damage, you can't damage yourself

<ChillerDragon> yea that makes sense

Smart projectiles

10:52

Know their owners

<ChillerDragon> same as you can also not damage your self with your own gun projectiles

For that you'd need to travel pretty fast anyway

10:52

Ah good idea for tune test

10:52

Thanks

10:56

I feel like I am in a matrix movie

this implementation of tune zones is cool

Jupstar ✪

He is just a small fish compared to the under-age cheater that I mean (edited)

Jupstar ✪

One cool thing I already have in mind is having a custom pickup sound for laser. Currently it shares the same as shotgun. There is also an unused gun pickup sound sfx_pickup_gun.wv, but I think it sounds rather bad
- The no-ammo sound, the spawn sound aswell as the switch weapon sound are currently shared among all weapons, I think customizing those would be cool too.
- The main menu theme generally has a iconic melody, but IMO the instruments are too annoying. I dunno how they are even called, but e.g. the loud noises are too annoying. Something with more harmony would be nice
- I generally would like to test some kind of non-annoying freeze sound, but maybe it's too annoying, so this isn't the most important thing
- Heart and shield pickup spawn uses same sound as weapons, should be individual too. Ninja has a spawn sound but unused.. Could be changed if it sounds cool
- There are quite a few unused sounds, ninja attack, some extra unhook collision sound.
- Hit sounds for skins could be per weapon. Would make it a bit more unique

The freeze scream is too iconic to change

Bro sometimes rustfmt is high

Jupstar ✪

Bro sometimes rustfmt is high

You will use the prescribed format and you will like it

I've never seen it break so weirdly tbh Maybe it's some kind of bug xd

looks like it gave up with the maximum width

I am 3 indentions in inside a if block inside a member function

13:45

even with typedefs i still find it kinda bad

yes, but it looks like it doesn't want to break after the | and tries to align the parameters

heinrich5991

yes, but it looks like it doesn't want to break after the | and tries to align the parameters

yeah

13:45

tbh rustfmt generally struggles with long lines

13:45

if i use a long "" text it just doesn't format anything anymore in that file xD

you might be able to get away with

let mut fill_for_players = {
    |param1: LongType,
     param2: LongType| {
    }
}

13:46

maybe needs a comment before the closure so it doesn't erase the {}

lets try

but at this point a formatter has failed IMO

1

13:46

if you have to tweak your source to make it readable under the formatter

1

nice, actually worked

Jupstar ✪

Bro sometimes rustfmt is high

is this inside a macro?

14:00

oh rip

14:00

well feel free to report a bug and contribute

Jupstar ✪

I feel like I am in a matrix movie

It's sound like Neo on top of building trying to avoid bullets (edited)

rust 2024 brings new style

14:10

This will be the first Rust edition that brings with it a new style edition to be applied by rustfmt. That new style edition includes: Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt closure body braces rust#124767 Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt raw identifier sorting rust#124764 Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt trailing comment alignment rust#124760 Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt improve impl generics indentation rust#124758 Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt change sort to Unicode-aware "non-lowercase before lowercase" rust#123802 Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt use version sort rust#123800 Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt style editions rust#123799 Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt enable overflow_delimited_expr rust#123751

14:10

https://github.com/rust-lang/rust-project-goals/issues/117#issuecomment-2439733237

Rust 2024 Edition · Issue #117 · rust-lang/rust-project-goals

Metadata Owner(s) @traviscross Team(s) lang, leadership-council, types Goal document 2024h2/Rust-2024-Edition Tracked issues rust-lang/rust label:A-edition-2024 label:C-tracking-issue -label:t-libs...

cool

Ryozuki

This will be the first Rust edition that brings with it a new style edition to be applied by rustfmt. That new style edition includes: Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt closure body braces rust#124767 Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt raw identifier sorting rust#124764 Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt trailing comment alignment rust#124760 Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt improve impl generics indentation rust#124758 Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt change sort to Unicode-aware "non-lowercase before lowercase" rust#123802 Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt use version sort rust#123800 Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt style editions rust#123799 Tracking Issue for Rust 2024: rustfmt enable overflow_delimited_expr rust#123751

WAAT

14:22

I need to format my whole repo with that

14:23

Bcs ofc I use Rust 2024

14:23

rust 2024 comes out early 2025 ^^

That is a problem

14:23

It has to release on at latest 31.12.2024 23:59 Then I have 1 minute to format everything (edited)

The Rust 2024 Edition is scheduled to be frozen on 2024-10-17, stabilized on nightly on 2024-11-28, and released as stable with Rust 1.85.0 on 2025-02-20.

14:25

https://doc.rust-lang.org/edition-guide/rust-2024/

Rust 2024

- The Rust Edition Guide

Does it have any cool feature? Something that is not* related to safety of pointers xd (edited)

it has more unsafe functions: https://doc.rust-lang.org/edition-guide/rust-2024/newly-unsafe-functions.html

Newly unsafe functions - The Rust Edition Guide

14:35

unsafe operations in unsafe fns now want an unsafe block

heinrich5991

unsafe operations in unsafe fns now want an unsafe block

Oh what

14:38

That sounds like a bit of pain tbh xD

it's a lint, you can turn it off