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Gumba
its a bot
Kenbay.05 2024-10-17 02:42
Теперь ты бот
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@TsFreddie I played some Minecraft VR and some other games. Gotta admit, I didn't know VR works that well. I once tested VR with my phone as screen, but that was pretty pixelated and bad FOV. A real VR headset... WOW 😄 Looks really amazing that everything feels so 3D and almost as if you are part of the world. And I feel sick now after jumping from some cliffs xD
TsFreddie 2024-10-17 03:13
i mean....
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duh
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too bad i don't work for VR anymore
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lost interest
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until my non compete agreement expires i guess lol
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Teero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A9NTJ1P688
manikoo 2024-10-17 04:19
its a bot lol don't need to lie here silly teerokek
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Ryozuki
after some consideration i changed my blog from CC-BY-SA-ND to CC-BY-SA
EGYT 2024-10-17 05:13
A rare CC BY-SA-ND in a wild...
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Ryozuki
ppl arleady translated my blog posts in random chinese webs anyway
TsFreddie 2024-10-17 05:22
oh no you don't want that
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oxyzo 2024-10-17 05:47
cc by sans
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Do you get used to the sickness factor? You as dev should know xD
Learath2 2024-10-17 05:48
Some of it I did get used to, like walking around while sitting irl. However, falling is one I never really "got over". My stomach drops when I take a vr fall still 😄
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Твоя дудочка☺
Ну египтяне вообще конченные
EGYT 2024-10-17 06:13
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EGYT
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Derek 2024-10-17 06:14
always thought it meant kiss your sister
06:15
now i get what i did wrong through the years
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Derek
always thought it meant kiss your sister
EGYT 2024-10-17 06:16
usually it means "kill yourself", but I am not that kind of a person 👼
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Derek 2024-10-17 06:16
bro i know
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it was a so called joke
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>.>
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Do you get used to the sickness factor? You as dev should know xD
TsFreddie 2024-10-17 06:16
kinda
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i can do locomotion in VR now, but only if i didn't care. immersion often make you more prone to sickness actually
06:18
but i still think teleporting is the best if designed properly around it.
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but we did make a game where you literally do jumping similar to pole vaulting, spent way to much time optimizing the movement to decrease the motion sickness factors.
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Learath2
Some of it I did get used to, like walking around while sitting irl. However, falling is one I never really "got over". My stomach drops when I take a vr fall still 😄
TsFreddie 2024-10-17 06:20
cuz most game don't know how to make falling lmao
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InsaneCat we did some R&D just on how to accelerate players. we found 0.8g or lower in VR is actually quite good for motion sickness based on some survey. if that feels too slow we also fake it by teleporting the player down when they move their head. people hardly notice we are not even accelerating them to the ground.
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they paid me way too less for these.
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EGYT 2024-10-17 06:50
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TsFreddie
InsaneCat we did some R&D just on how to accelerate players. we found 0.8g or lower in VR is actually quite good for motion sickness based on some survey. if that feels too slow we also fake it by teleporting the player down when they move their head. people hardly notice we are not even accelerating them to the ground.
pilonpl 2024-10-17 07:11
Wow that's actually interesting
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TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:12
vibe
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not that i care about it or anything
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 07:14
Is 90hz screen refresh rate really enough?
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Seems kinda low
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TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:14
72hz on quest 2 is ok
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honestly
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 07:14
How
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TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:14
idk
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but i don't feel like 72hz is too low
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 07:14
On desktop 60hz is basically unusable
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TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:14
90 or more definetly feels a lot better
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but 72 is servicable
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i don't feel weird looking at 72 content
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 07:15
I've never used a proper VR headset unfortunately
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TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:16
also they usually have 120hz screen. you can just render your content at 72 or lower but do space warpping on device i guess
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you will notice low refresh rate if you look at your hand closely and wave it around. but just moving your head is fine because the space wrapping thing (edited)
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although space warpping also complicates locomotion. but it still feels ok at 72, and pretty good at 90
07:18
some game renders at 36 just to push more graphics but i don't like that method tbh. maybe it works fine for standing content. moving content probably not
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 07:19
Obviously the solution is to render the game at 1/4 the resolution and upscale it with AI + generate entirely new frames in between
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TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:20
upscaling on mobile is expensive
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a lot more expensive than you thought
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 07:20
And it looks shit
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Even dlss is shit
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TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:21
we can't even do FXAA
cammo 1
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for tiled mobile gpu, reading back the screen to do post processing is the most expensive thing you can do unintentionally
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if you read the screen buffer you lose like 3ms immediately even if you don't do anything with it
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if you want to do that on mobile VR. you better make tons of post processing to make it worth it
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InsaneCat
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 07:24
Portable headsets are nice but a gaming PC will be better right
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TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:26
ye but mobile VR is kinda freeing
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no tether and stuff
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you can just walk around without worrying about tripping yourself
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there is wireless pc streaming but it kinda kills CPU performance on PC so it isn't that great on CPU heavy titles
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pilonpl
Wow that's actually interesting
TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:28
also optimizing that it's just one of those things where the manager ask you to "fix" motion sickness because players are complaining about it even though you've warned the production team that it WILL happen if they proceed with game ideas that requires locomotion so you end up spending extra work hours just to research so you can implement some counter-mesures and all managers have to say about it is "told you it could be done"
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HUH
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 07:31
Is it a big issue to render the scene from two perspectives?
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pilonpl
Is it a big issue to render the scene from two perspectives?
TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:31
you can render it once
07:32
forgot how exactly that works, but it is like uploading the buffer once and draw twice. saves a lot draw calls
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 07:32
Well i have no idea how graphics work lol
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TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:33
you can also just draw two camera but that's as expensive as you can imagine
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 07:33
But i would assume you have to take into account the fact that eyes aren't parallel when looking at things up close
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TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:34
although drawing two cameras saves tons of headache because it works with every rendering tricks you throw at it. but for instanced single pass you need to make sure all your shaders works with instanced drawing
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pilonpl
But i would assume you have to take into account the fact that eyes aren't parallel when looking at things up close
TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:34
you don't worry about that, because it is physically impossible for you to focus close up objects so we don't bother
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if you brain thinks you are looking at something close, you eyes focus near. but the display is still really far away so you vision is blurred
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so in VR we don't really bother with close ups because it is just not worth it
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 07:39
I mean it's not impossible to focus your view on a different point than the one you're looking at
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There are those cross view images
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Where you can see in 3d by crossing your eyes and it's really cool
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TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:39
different thing i think
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if you grab something and put it close your face. your brain will focus near
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that's just how brains work i think
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 07:47
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This is so fun to look at
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And it does require you to focus on the screen while looking at a point in front of the screen
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TsFreddie 2024-10-17 07:49
vibe ye that's different
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むぎ 2024-10-17 08:18
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manikoo 2024-10-17 08:18
chancho
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むぎ 2024-10-17 08:18
yes
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manikoo 2024-10-17 08:18
no
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むぎ 2024-10-17 08:19
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manikoo 2024-10-17 08:21
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wiu wiu wiu
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basicaly 2024-10-17 09:10
¿
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Teero 2024-10-17 15:06
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Ryozuki 2024-10-17 15:13
@TsFreddie https://awkravchuk.itch.io/cl-fast-ecs
cl-fast-ecs by Andrew
Blazingly fast Entity-Component-System microframework ⚡📦
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TsFreddie 2024-10-17 15:13
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Ryozuki 2024-10-17 15:14
owo
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Ryozuki 2024-10-17 15:46
https://x.com/SamNChiet/status/1846470417927602597?t=McNXV3NgESfZrMxf8eJB2g&s=19
Samperson (@SamNChiet) on X
Even today, Half Life: Alyx feels like it came from an alternate game industry we never got. A hard overcommittment to the tech and techniques of 2000s-2010s gamedev, instead of just accepting the expected modern pipeline at face value.
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 15:47
how can i iterate over all premutations of digits 1 through 9 in a random order?
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what would even be the approach
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risu 2024-10-17 15:51
your standard library is somewhat likely to have a random shuffle function
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just give it the list [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]
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oh wait all permutations
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I'm dumb
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 15:51
but all permutations would be like 3mb of memory for basically nothing
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risu 2024-10-17 15:51
yeah give me a second
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there should be a way to give each permutation an index but it's not obvious to me right now
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 15:53
yeah
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risu 2024-10-17 15:58
Thinking about this a bit and I think I've got something resembling a solution in my mind
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 16:00
i need it to generate sudoku puzzles
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right now sometimes my program loops forever when constraints cant be satisfied with any permutation
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and i have to detect that
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i think it just makes sense to generate whole rows at a time to satisfy one of the constraints for free
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MilkeeyCat 2024-10-17 16:26
@Learath2 any ideas what proc macro to write to test if it works? :DD
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MilkeeyCat 2024-10-17 16:34
At first I was trying to do something like Rust does, to use TokenTrees but in the end I just copied enum from lexer the only different is that it has #[repr(C)] :\
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risu 2024-10-17 16:35
@pilonpl ok I figured it out def permutation_by_index (items, idx): if idx >= math.factorial(len(items)) or idx < 0: raise Exception("uh-oh") remaining = items.copy() remaining_index = idx result = [] for i in range(len(items)): divisor = int(math.factorial(len(items) - i - 1)) result.append(remaining.pop(remaining_index // divisor)) remaining_index %= divisor return result (edited)
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index 0 gives you the list in the original order, index factorial(len(items)) - 1 gives you inverse order
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 16:36
i think i am too tired to figure out how this works right now lol
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risu 2024-10-17 16:37
think of the number range from 0 to 10! - 1
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first we split that range into 10 pieces, and whichever piece our index fits into decides the first element
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 16:37
oh
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risu 2024-10-17 16:38
then the piece we landed on gets further split into 9 pieces, and so on
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 16:38
thats actually a really useful thing to do a lot of time
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that approach can even be used for compression
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risu 2024-10-17 16:39
I think the idea came to me from a math video I watched that was somehow related to compression
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so good intuition :P
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 16:39
by changing the sizes of slices you can set probabilities of certain data and therefore compress it
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it can also be used to assign chess games to every number
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in a certain range
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risu 2024-10-17 16:41
If you think of the range 0-1 you can also use it to assign any node in any tree a number
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as long as the branches immediately coming out from any single node are finite (kinda have to assume that for anything to make sense lol) (edited)
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risu 2024-10-17 16:51
I also looked at this to figure it out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher%E2%80%93Yates_shuffle
Fisher–Yates shuffle
The Fisher–Yates shuffle is an algorithm for shuffling a finite sequence. The algorithm takes a list of all the elements of the sequence, and continually determines the next element in the shuffled sequence by randomly drawing an element from the list until no elements remain. The algorithm produces an unbiased permutation: every permutation is ...
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I do the same algorithm except instead of generating random numbers repeatedly I extract the numbers from the index given at the start
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 16:53
yeah thats what i am using right now
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むぎ 2024-10-17 17:07
@TsFreddie hi
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wat program do u use for vpn? (edited)
17:07
v2rayn or nekoray?
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and do u use hosting at all?
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for vpn
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manikoo 2024-10-17 17:44
rudo ryu
Sadge 1
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pilonpl 2024-10-17 17:49
It's a well know fact that roller coster tycoon was written in assembly
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But the actual hard way would be to write it in a hex editor
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Bota 2024-10-17 22:17
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imagine using chrome
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Teero 2024-10-17 23:04
Works on chromium still for me
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Cellegen 2024-10-17 23:45
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