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Between 2024-10-10 00:00 and 2024-10-11 00:00
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https://x.com/Sn_darkmeta/status/1844104165192253945 stupidest thing I've read this year
@Vestboy_Myst They are under attack because the archive belongs to the USA, and as we all know, this horrendous and hypocritical government supports the genocide that is being carried out by the terrorist state of β€œIsrael”.
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Insane
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heinrich5991
pog
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Learath2
Nice, I don't have a use for it but nice that it's finally there
i dont think its something you use explicitly, this allows rust to express more its memory model and maybe more optimizations
05:36
In my previous blog post on pointer provenance, I have shown that not thinking carefully about pointers can lead to a compiler that is internally inconsistent: programs that are intended to...
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The three core pillars of this approach are: making pointer-integer casts β€œexpose” the pointer’s provenance, offering ptr.addr() to learn a pointer’s address without exposing its provenance, and making pointer-integer transmutation round-trips lossy (such that the resulting pointer cannot be dereferenced). Together, they imply that we can optimize β€œnice” code (that follows Strict Provenance, and does not β€œexpose” or use integer-pointer casts) perfectly, without any risk of breaking code that does use pointer-integer round-trips. In the easiest possible approach, the compiler can simply treat pointer-integer and integer-pointer casts as calls to some opaque external function. Even if the rest of the compiler literally entirely ignores the existence of pointer-integer round-trips, it will still support such code correctly! However, it’s not just compilers and optimizers that benefit from this approach. One of my biggest quests is giving a precise model of the Rust aliasing rules, and that task has just gotten infinitely easier. I used to worry a lot about pointer-integer round-trips while developing Stacked Borrows. This is the entire reason why all of this β€œuntagged pointer” mess exists.
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well if u deal with pointers and do ur pointer stuff with that api its probs better
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Beta version on steam removes it's exe. Persists after reinstalling
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Devinci
same on windows
fixed i think
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Ya, seems fixed. It nuked my custom arrow.png etc. in my data folder though greenthing
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cyberfighter 2 2024-10-10 07:12
you dont need it
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Already had backups and replaced them all feelsamazingman
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cyberfighter 2 2024-10-10 07:13
idk how a different arrow.png helps with banning cheaters
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idk how your trolling helps with banning cheaters, you could've been a moderator. You've failed us all.
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cyberfighter 2 2024-10-10 07:19
its your fault
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07:19
you said i could never be a moderator
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Skeith
Ya, seems fixed. It nuked my custom arrow.png etc. in my data folder though greenthing
put custom files in config directory, then they will never be overridden by an upgrade
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Didn't know it'd pull these specific files from that folder, good to know
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cyberfighter 2 2024-10-10 07:27
what do you mean by config directory
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Roaming ddnet folder
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Learath2
https://x.com/Sn_darkmeta/status/1844104165192253945 stupidest thing I've read this year
heinrich5991 2024-10-10 07:35
archive.org is inside the US, and by association supports israel's war? sounds stupid
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Learath2
https://x.com/Sn_darkmeta/status/1844104165192253945 stupidest thing I've read this year
Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 08:25
--- They said using a telecommunication service based in the US by Elon, who is probably much more connected to the govern than most associations xDDD (edited)
08:26
And they even have a checkmark, which costs money I think
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Avolicious 2024-10-10 08:30
I dont know, but I am very affected by Keynotes in general. Be it Apple or now SurrealDB, damn... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4nfF_pf7iU
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surrealdb good, apple no
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Avolicious 2024-10-10 08:32
Apple Keynotes are awesome
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should try surrealdb on a real project
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Avolicious 2024-10-10 08:32
They know how to sell stuff
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Avolicious
They know how to sell stuff
recently they know how to disappoint people on features
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Avolicious 2024-10-10 08:33
Are you talking about Apple Intelligence?
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not only
08:33
apple intelligence's issues are most commonly due to EU
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Avolicious 2024-10-10 08:34
All the cool stuff is mostly limited due to EU
08:34
Imagine you want to build your EU Cloud, but have no clue how hyperscalers work
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yes, but even without it it wouldn't be released with all its components
08:35
after it's more of a personal choice but I hate to use iOS and mac os x (edited)
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 08:36
no vulkan no os
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ReiTW
after it's more of a personal choice but I hate to use iOS and mac os x (edited)
Avolicious 2024-10-10 08:50
I really like the Apple ecosystem. It just works.
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heinrich5991 2024-10-10 08:55
it doesn't just work for games or game developers
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well most of features are useless to me as I wouldn't use them
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heinrich5991
it doesn't just work for games or game developers
Avolicious 2024-10-10 08:55
I dont play games anymore
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I like more open envs
08:56
(I only use windows for gaming as It's horrible on linux with anticheats)
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Avolicious
I dont play games anymore
Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 08:57
You don't play teeworlds? We can talk about it, you can't leave teeworlds, you can't!
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Jupstar βœͺ
You don't play teeworlds? We can talk about it, you can't leave teeworlds, you can't!
Avolicious 2024-10-10 08:57
I dont play teeworlds anymore, no
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Avolicious
I dont play teeworlds anymore, no
Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 08:57
Just remember all the good moments you had
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Avolicious
I really like the Apple ecosystem. It just works.
heinrich5991 2024-10-10 08:57
"It just works for me." would probably not have triggered my response ^^
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heinrich5991
"It just works for me." would probably not have triggered my response ^^
Avolicious 2024-10-10 08:58
But I wanted your response πŸ˜„ Sitting in a meeting right now & have to wait for others to finish their proposal
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int8_t and uint8_t Are Not Necessarily Character Types
08:58
is that true? that sounds bad ^^
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Jupstar βœͺ
Just remember all the good moments you had
Avolicious 2024-10-10 08:58
I do, I had fun for a lot of hours
08:59
But at some point, you will have to move on πŸ˜„ My financée needs attention too, so less teeworlds guys
09:00
But no worries, I'll continue to pay for the servers ^^
09:01
And merge upstream ddnet
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 09:01
And play as soon as your addiction comes back
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Avolicious 2024-10-10 09:02
Maybe my future kids (if teeworlds is still alive)
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cyberfighter 2 2024-10-10 09:04
why if
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Avolicious
I really like the Apple ecosystem. It just works.
i like the Linux ecosystem, it just works (edited)
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heinrich5991
is that true? that sounds bad ^^
It is as far as I know
10:17
C99 6.5p7 and 6.2.5p15 make it pretty clear
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GitHub BOT 2024-10-10 10:19
1bf350c Use .data() in mysql code for better readability - ChillerDragon 56737cc Merge pull request #9130 from ChillerDragon/pr_clang_data_pointer - def-
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do you guys watch or read productive stuff while eating? do you watch anything? or do you consume brainrot like tiktok or smth
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meloƞ
do you guys watch or read productive stuff while eating? do you watch anything? or do you consume brainrot like tiktok or smth
Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 10:22
When I eat, I often watch anime or movies xd
10:22
Or chat here in a heated discussion and my food gets cold
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meloƞ
do you guys watch or read productive stuff while eating? do you watch anything? or do you consume brainrot like tiktok or smth
MilkeeyCat 2024-10-10 10:23
I watched doritos tier list while I was eating
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lmao that's fair, i was just wondering because i'm currently inhaling pizza while watching anime
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meloƞ
lmao that's fair, i was just wondering because i'm currently inhaling pizza while watching anime
Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 10:29
Bro so early in the day pizza. It's melon time
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meloƞ
do you guys watch or read productive stuff while eating? do you watch anything? or do you consume brainrot like tiktok or smth
at home i watch a serie, right now the office, at office i read hacker news or talk to ppl
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i forgot to eat yesterday so im hungy
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Jupstar βœͺ
Or chat here in a heated discussion and my food gets cold
keyboard warrior
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Just gonna leave it here
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Ryozuki
i like the Linux ecosystem, it just works (edited)
Avolicious 2024-10-10 10:53
Depends on the distro, but debian and Fedora hasnt worked that good on lenovo
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macos also doesnt work on lenovo
10:55
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Avolicious 2024-10-10 10:58
MacOS is built for Apple
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Lenovo is built for Windows & Linux
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Depends on your contract, you can choose what it ships with
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@heinrich5991 damn apparently they're experiencing a huge DDoS attack
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Web archive
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meloƞ
do you guys watch or read productive stuff while eating? do you watch anything? or do you consume brainrot like tiktok or smth
I used to consume productive material. Recenlty I've gotten into listening to youtube slop
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Avolicious
I really like the Apple ecosystem. It just works.
isnt it more than that
13:15
i think the main strength is its device integration between apple products
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GitHub BOT 2024-10-10 13:41
It wasn't a problem before because it didn't work, but now that #9058 fixed it. The delay should be excluded from practice.

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Π˜Ρ€ΠΈΡΠΎΡ‡ΠΊΠ° 2024-10-10 14:04
Does anyone know why I got this?
14:04
this appears if you right-click on the image
14:05
I looked it up on the internet and didn't find it.
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Does anyone know why I got this?
Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 14:06
bcs u updated windows
14:07
and i assume they forgot the russian translations for it
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Jupstar βœͺ
bcs u updated windows
Π˜Ρ€ΠΈΡΠΎΡ‡ΠΊΠ° 2024-10-10 14:07
added a parameter that I don't need xD
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Windows nouis
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Π˜Ρ€ΠΈΡΠΎΡ‡ΠΊΠ° 2024-10-10 14:08
xD
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I know that you didn't understand anything, study Russian to understand it
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xD
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Can't you copy it?....
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I think it's just double click
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Ρ…Π°Ρ…Ρ…Π° я ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΠ½ Ρ‚ΡƒΡ‚ русский ΠΈΠ»ΠΈ Ρ‡Π΅?
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Ρ…Π°Ρ…Ρ…Π° я ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΠ½ Ρ‚ΡƒΡ‚ русский ΠΈΠ»ΠΈ Ρ‡Π΅?
Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 14:12
what? I can't read it
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 14:12
english pls :c
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гидронауроноваякислота
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h1ldy
гидронауроноваякислота
Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 14:13
$english
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h1ldy
гидронауроноваякислота
Hi! Most of us communicate in English. If you’re having trouble with English, use https://www.deepl.com/en/translator to help you out.
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GitHub BOT 2024-10-10 14:14
https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/760a4b20-41e4-437d-ad3d-0797f4d17c1f

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kinda useless but other tabs already have a preview and it was a big empty space πŸ˜„ (edited)
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 14:21
qol
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louis
i think the main strength is its device integration between apple products
Avolicious 2024-10-10 14:57
The seamless integration, yeah πŸ˜„
14:57
But I also like the UX
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Ryozuki
at home i watch a serie, right now the office, at office i read hacker news or talk to ppl
what do you work on? is it in rust?
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Максик 🀑 2024-10-10 16:26
Hello, I have a problem, why does my account crash when I switch to DDnet? Is there any way to fix this?
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 16:29
What do you mean with account? Does ddnet itself crash?
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Avolicious
The seamless integration, yeah πŸ˜„
I am so much of an Android user since years, ig I can't switch because I'd need to learn again to use smth else (people say Apple is intuitive, lmao absolutely not, it's as intuitive as android)
16:32
And I moved to Google pixels, perfect phones nowadays
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ReiTW
And I moved to Google pixels, perfect phones nowadays
google pixel pro 8 masterrace!
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meloƞ
google pixel pro 8 masterrace!
9 pro* giga_chad
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ReiTW
9 pro* giga_chad
DAYUM - i'll use my 8 pro until it dies, i'm so happy with it
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I'll do two today, one useful, one useless: specious = seemingly reasonable, but wrong sagacious = shrewd/wise
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is specious pronounced: Spesius or spiisious
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spiishes (edited)
16:37
or spi:ΚƒΙ™s if you know IPA
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ReiTW
I am so much of an Android user since years, ig I can't switch because I'd need to learn again to use smth else (people say Apple is intuitive, lmao absolutely not, it's as intuitive as android)
Avolicious 2024-10-10 17:03
I used Android for years, but had to switch over as Google Pay and several other products where kinda useless for me - even after talking with the vendors ( my banks & app developers ) I was pissed off. ( Had a OnePlus )
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So I bought an Apple, because you only get it from 1 company, Apple. They support it, you can go to a genius bar and ask your stuff and you also have seamless integration with nearly all products from the apple family. Thats my personal experience and I really enjoyed it
17:04
I can use my AirPods Pro & Max by switching seamless from iPhone to Mac to iPad
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https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/242221770 this is reaaaally close to radicalizing me
17:06
Google is truly one disgusting company, every Google higher up deserves perma-jail, or atleast banned from ever working in tech
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Actually jail is better, these people would corrupt any industry
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 17:09
With that logic I'd need to refuse all graphics card manufacturers that exist xd
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I don't mind jailing all executives and nationalizing their corporations
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 17:10
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Imagine all of TSMC, Intel, Nvidia secrets becoming public domain. Just the thought of it is pleasant
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 17:13
Would be interesting for sure, I also have my problems with how patents work. But that wouldn't mean you suddenly have the skilled workers to do the same out of nowhere.
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Would be interesting for sure, I also have my problems with how patents work. But that wouldn't mean you suddenly have the skilled workers to do the same out of nowhere.
We can keep paying the skilled workers, will also seize all assets of the corporations and the personal assets of the executives
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It's the perfect plan, take back all the wealth the 1% siphoned off. I'll start planning
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I just have to become the president of the united states
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 17:17
Ez
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Just lie in every sentence
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Learath2
Imagine all of TSMC, Intel, Nvidia secrets becoming public domain. Just the thought of it is pleasant
I expect this would change nothing tbh
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GitHub BOT 2024-10-10 17:48
a2fedd0 Change editor teleport number behavior - KebsCS f2090d6 Merge pull request #8961 from KebsCS/pr-teleport-numbers - Robyt3
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Learath2
Imagine all of TSMC, Intel, Nvidia secrets becoming public domain. Just the thought of it is pleasant
I doubt many would even understand anything
18:12
It's like saying make the ddnet antibot public domain
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No one would understand anything without spending months investigating or someone explaining it to them
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MilkeeyCat 2024-10-10 18:23
@Learath2 I finally added support for pointer arithmetic, wooooooo (edited)
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And I'm thinking about maybe it would be better to drop manual cast from array type to pointer
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MilkeeyCat 2024-10-10 18:33
i have 3 tests and they broke pepeW
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Learath2
Imagine all of TSMC, Intel, Nvidia secrets becoming public domain. Just the thought of it is pleasant
just because you nationalize doesn't mean it goes public. These companies would stilll be moral person and hold all their intellectual properties. Some would probably be even kept secret by government for reasons
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Chairn
just because you nationalize doesn't mean it goes public. These companies would stilll be moral person and hold all their intellectual properties. Some would probably be even kept secret by government for reasons
It will in the future I promise you. No more hiding of science
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no incentives for science
19:20
money being an incentive
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jxsl13
no incentives for science
not going to gulag also good incentive
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socialism is a good incentive
19:28
death is the target
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elect me supreme leader, I'll make it work
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GitHub BOT 2024-10-10 19:32
Updated flags with significant changes, because small color adjustments, are hardly noticeable on the small .pngs Template for updating flags I made: !template

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louis
can we get flag of antarctica in ddnet? troll (edited)
i got u πŸ˜‚
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 19:39
@kebs r u on linux?
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windows
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 19:40
mh k
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we really should add a zopflipng CI
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that would make the diffs smaller xd
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but that was ~10% size difference
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 19:42
oh i actually thought that is even better than zopfli actually
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weird that it performed so bad in this case
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but then nvm, maybe the images have simply more detail or smth
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 19:58
does someone know how much RAM a 64p server with database uses?
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I got a really weird behavior on macos. when downloading the dmg file from my webserver, macos tells me that my app is broken. when downloading the exact same file via sftp, it works perfectly fine..
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.. macos doing security garbage...
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 20:28
have u checked sha256?
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of both
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but yeah maybe they add some tag/flag to it, dunno
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it's their stupid code signing
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stuff
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or app signing
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does ddnet sign their .dmg files? (edited)
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not only our jobs but also our nobel prizes they take - Yoda 4000AD
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AD ? all movies start with "in a far far away galaxy, a long time ago..."
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more like BC
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anno domini
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yoda is christian
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kek
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 20:56
Chairn watched star wars, epyc
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But I have no meme in mind rn
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jxsl13
anno domini
Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 20:58
his point is that star wars is from the past πŸ˜„
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but laser weaüons 😦
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 20:58
smth only real fans know
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😏
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weapons
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 20:58
real fans also say light saber to the sword
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😬
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but real fans know that there are scenes where they call it a laser sword. (edited)
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Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 20:59
The lightsaber, also referred to as a laser sword by those who were unfamiliar with it, was a weapon usually used by the Jedi, Sith, and other Force-sensitives.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Lightsaber shots directly fired
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lmao
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I think I did watch at most one or two of the movies actively
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but real fans know that there are scenes where they call it a laser sword. (edited)
Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 21:00
there are indeed
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in german we'd say, filmfehler
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xd
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in german the translation does actually explicitly and knowingly translate that wording
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so does the dubbing
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jxsl13
I think I did watch at most one or two of the movies actively
Jupstar βœͺ 2024-10-10 21:01
you need to watch them for the quotes & memes. Not for entertainment xd
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bfe2e4d Add hook collisions preview - KebsCS 85b8367 Merge pull request #9136 from KebsCS/pr-hook-coll-preview - Robyt3
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  • Add CTeeRenderInfo::ApplyColors function to reduce duplicate code.
  • Use CTeeRenderInfo::Apply function in more cases.
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Tater
I expect this would change nothing tbh
hm, maybe only if their manufacturers that provide all the stuff will become public too
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The issue is that all their trade secrets become out dated every 24 months. The reason they are valuable companies is not because they have a bunch of secrets it's because they have lots of money and lots of smart employees to effectively use that money
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If you can summon 2000 very good engineers and 500 billion dollars you can copy any of their businesses without their trade secrets
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