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Ryozuki

does this test turn positive in a car test

they dont test u for drugs unless u do something wrong

this debate is insane

01:37

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professional yapper

гуд морнинг

XXXaber

гуд морнинг

Нового впечатления

XXXaber

гуд морнинг

Вы пропагандируете порно индустрию?

к сожалению нет

Печально

04:52

Я думал вы герой

04:52

А оказались имитатором

04:53

имитатор это растение из пвз

XXXaber

имитатор это растение из пвз

Не шарю

лан

04:55

Java и дискорд

04:55

Я в ахуе

Ewan

professional yapper

who

vance

05:08

but really both

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAlt0U-IVfn/?igsh=ZjRpZ2lubmZqZno0

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Jupstar ✪

and i kinda assume they are more savage than russia

No u

Hello!

06:53

What is clans: ava_coala, inspire, avarice, lucidity and more? (edited)

there are no clans in this game

Ewan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZCwKxn-ATU

А трамп где?

о ёмаё тут русачи есть

Нет тебе показалось

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08:07

steam networking + host transfering, i can finally send my first message after 700 lines oof

TsFreddie

steam networking + host transfering, i can finally send my first message after 700 lines oof

pr to ddnet

Our dev team consits of @TsFreddie, TsFreddie DEV, TsFreddie Dev 2. only one team member is abused and underpaid, nothing to worry about

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TsFreddie

steam networking + host transfering, i can finally send my first message after 700 lines oof

Woo

TsFreddie

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if you need someone to help you, f.e with UI, I can help owo

haven't started with UI yet

I did

11:01

my main menu is still going strong with the animated UI that I implemented, but not sure if it's a good idea to use it 1:1 with your project

Cellegen

my main menu is still going strong with the animated UI that I implemented, but not sure if it's a good idea to use it 1:1 with your project

what kind of animations?

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/295908390956433410/1287671939204255880

11:39

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/252358080522747904/1243303229853532221 Also this, which I have a slight rework of it, cuz it was hardcoded.

11:39

Now all my animations work independantly and any script can manipulate it's behaviours without interacting with other ones.

What's the point of smooth scrolling btw? DDNet also got them. Isn't it just annoying to wait for animations to finish?

11:40

Hover effects are fine, since they don't block anything

it makes it easier to track the scroll position for me

Preference, can be toggled in my case.

smooth scrolling

I'll give options for the user to toggle anything via commands, or via the options panel.

heinrich5991

it makes it easier to track the scroll position for me

why? what tracking do you need?

11:41

Why do browsers not implement it?

as well as easily export all settings as a file, which other user can use in a folder which runs itself upon startup, or till the configuration will be choosen in the options panel

Jupstar ✪

why? what tracking do you need?

my firefox seems to implement it

heinrich5991

my firefox seems to implement it

Did you enable some setting for it?

not sure, let me try chromium

11:42

chromium also does smooth scrolling

For me all scrolling is instant

maybe itsu r mouse

Jupstar ✪

For me all scrolling is instant

can you press page down on a page in chromium

In my experience, low framerate monitors benefit a smooth and non snappy interface, while the high framerate monitors don't feel that need

and see whether you see more than one change?

heinrich5991

can you press page down on a page in chromium

Yes, it's instant

interesting

Or so fast that i cannot recognize it

Jupstar ✪

Or so fast that i cannot recognize it

the latter

I'd say the smooth scrolling is taking maybe 20ms or so in chromium (pure speculation on the time)

11:44

(I've not configured my chromium AFAIK)

back to implementing smoothwheeling in any of my UIs, I wanna give the user the option to toggle it. (edited)

Cellegen

the latter

Jupstar ✪

why? what tracking do you need?

I want to see where the old thing that I looked at is after scrolling. otherwise I have to reorient myself

Jupstar ✪

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does it feel non-instant to you?

heinrich5991

I want to see where the old thing that I looked at is after scrolling. otherwise I have to reorient myself

But isn't that already tracked in your brain when you use your mouse wheel xD

Jupstar ✪

does it feel non-instant to you?

it feels instant, if you prefer calling a one-frame event "instant".

I seriously cannot even imagine what you mean

when moving the scroll bar, I also get unsmooth scrolls

11:46

is that using the scroll wheel or the scroll bar?

Jupstar ✪

Click to see attachment 🖼️

cool mail xd

Jupstar ✪

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that looks instant in case you scrolled more than once

ScReeNy

cool mail xd

it's not secret

heinrich5991

when moving the scroll bar, I also get unsmooth scrolls

Yes, there are other implementations of it, like dragging strength and such, I joinked one of the projects from a guy who had a dimming strength, which makes and easing-out animation from A to B

11:46

works imo

heinrich5991

that looks instant in case you scrolled more than once

i pressed page up and down the whole time, yeah

good^^

can you press it once and record that? ^^

11:47

make it slo-mo

yeah not much different

11:47

it's defs instant

11:48

i mean i have 240hz monitor, i'd see if that is smooth

snappy...

ddnet should just use my KDE settings and disable all animations

Anyway, I get what you mean, many prefer their actions be instant, for some reason.

then i don't need to manually set all config vars to 0

Cellegen

Anyway, I get what you mean, many prefer their actions be instant, for some reason.

for some reason? XD

11:49

it's simply useless to waste my lifetime with smooth animations that cost time

Most games don't do that actually, they have animations between scenes, like 0.2 second ones

blocking animations should be opt-in not opt-out

Some benefit from it in a design perspective

Cellegen

Some benefit from it in a design perspective

but what benefit? that is looks nice for the first time you see it?

11:50

all other 3million times it just sucks xd

In my client, you either enable or disable those options for your own benefit

11:50

idk if DDNet client has that, but imma give the user the chance to change anything interactable by the user

11:51

involving button designs, the shape of the buttons, or which buttons lead where

wtf

quite easy stuff cuz the option is there, but I want the user to do it inside the engine as a configuration setting, instead of fiddling it inside Godot Engine

11:52

So, will need a panel which lets you customize the main menu f.e (with percentage based measuring) (edited)

but anyway, i just wonder why ppl like animations that block usage. It also depends how much they block. E.g. a transition imo is even worse than smooth scrolling. Zooming in and out is less awful than, opening/closing a menu, which is animated, since you can still kinda play.

11:54

But I dunno, I always hate to use the phones of others with they useless closing app animations xD

I feel like a 0.2 animation length is more, than enough... if not too much for animation between scenes.

My phone feels so much more responsive

Thats the limit I wanna have with animations

It's like with loading screens. The best loading screen is none xD

Untrue, most may not care for animations, but some animations can increase the overall design of the main menu as an appreciation.

Starting GTA 5 is just horrible, no matter how good their loading screens look like xD

As I said, i'll give options to toggle it, if one don't like it.

Cellegen

Untrue, most may not care for animations, but some animations can increase the overall design of the main menu as an appreciation.

ok it looks nice

11:55

no doubt

11:55

but after seeing all animations twice or 3 times. it's useless

then it's not about fancy anymore

that is why I said, imma give options

yeah but it's about good default options

Русские ваще есть

what do you do? disable animations over time? Xd

I wanna make it, so you could also share your design with people as a config setting.

changing options is annoying too

Писец

that probably costs as much time as i lose by the animations xD

Jupstar ✪

changing options is annoying too

It's part of my responsibility to make it viable

11:57

yet I cannot share anything, since the best options panel ain't Teeworlds', or any games'

11:58

if I wanna include customizability in the main menu as well, I'll need a clever way of introducing the player on how to do that, as well as a nice way to get there.

11:58

Maybe with a hotkey, but the hotkey needs to be recognized, as well as mods or modifications not being able to use it

and how do i know the hotkey?

Other is inside the Options panel, but the options panel needs to be as simple and understandable as possible, meaning a lot of design choises will be spent there.

Jupstar ✪

and how do i know the hotkey?

thats the thing, it needs to be recognized by the player somehow.

but anyway, i didn't want you to convince to add options

You didn't. i already was on it bro

i just try to understand why ppl like their time wasted for repeated actions

wasting their precious 0.2s?

yeah

I think you are overreacting this.

12:01

Need to have a middle ground.

If i select a person in a list of players to spectate. and it does an animation for that. then it feels worse than instant

12:01

bcs i already know which person i want to spectate

Jupstar ✪

If i select a person in a list of players to spectate. and it does an animation for that. then it feels worse than instant

now let me tell you smth harold

Jupstar ✪

If i select a person in a list of players to spectate. and it does an animation for that. then it feels worse than instant

At least it's togglable... right? Not a default option?

12:02

12:03

At least people have the option to increase / decrease the animation speed...

12:03

right

Is this useful?

Cellegen

At least people have the option to increase / decrease the animation speed...

as said i wonder about good default values

:/

Jupstar ✪

Is this useful?

u could say: i can track where the camera comes from and goes to

12:05

good true.. And why do you need that when u want to spectate a specific person?

I think in a pro play pespective... you wouldn't want your spectator mode to be controlled by animations.

12:06

you want it to be instant, so you could make instantly desicions

Yeah but this is the default animation in the next ddnet client

Jupstar ✪

Yeah but this is the default animation in the next ddnet client

Cellegen

you want it to be instant, so you could make instantly desicions

We have like 4 smooth config now

12:06

in the client

togglable?

yes, it has an extra config variable

good.

12:07

well, we'll see

TsFreddie

haven't started with UI yet

Anyway, if you need help with that, hit me

OMG

12:11

I BEAT LINEAR IN 12 MINUTES

12:11

THAT WAS SO HARD

Cellegen

Anyway, if you need help with that, hit me

not with the banhammer

hating on smooth scrolling is such a boomer thing

TsFreddie

hating on smooth scrolling is such a boomer thing

i disagree

12:12

only boomers need animations

12:13

my future brain likes to be in future

12:13

not past

Jupstar ✪

only boomers need animations

u gotta accept ur becoming boomer

2

12:13

i gotta skip the animations til year 2099

denial is first step

12:13

im a boomer now

12:13

im 24

i'm a fossil

i feel like a boomer, but i try to convince younglings to stay young

12:14

by not wasting their time with animations

why is there no rust crate to read wm settings

12:14

:c

12:14

i wanted to add that to ddpg rn

12:14

so i have animations off

12:14

I'll give you the option to toggle it off, stop whining

you don't need to

@Jupstar ✪ why u use kde if u dotn want animation

Cellegen

I'll give you the option to toggle it off, stop whining

You don't understand what i mean

use i3wm

12:15

it has 0 animations

he won't use your stuff anyway

Ryozuki

it has 0 animations

why does it have smooth scroll then?

Jupstar ✪

You don't understand what i mean

"Your means are beyond my understanding"

Jupstar ✪

why does it have smooth scroll then?

what doesh ave smooth

12:16

my discord and firefox do

12:16

but my terminal doesnt (edited)

Ryozuki

my discord and firefox do

my not

12:16

i disabled animations in kde and it's off everywhere

12:16

that sounds sane to me

TsFreddie

he won't use your stuff anyway

others might, since we live in a world where you cannot satisfy anyone, no matter how good it looks

gnuplot is ancient but still so good

12:17

im plotting babe

12:17

aquiring niche userbase is a myth

https://crates.io/crates/memory-stats

maybe I'll write a tooltip below "toggle animations" saying:

For Linux users

just auto detect it based on my wm

12:18

that would be epyc

XD

12:18

yes (edited)

~~niche user does not have friends and can not spread your work which makes them useless as a potential user.~~

Cellegen

maybe I'll write a tooltip below "toggle animations" saying:

For Linux users

give jupsti its own option to launch it in cli

meloƞ

give jupsti its own option to launch it in cli

no

12:18

CLI is not always better than GUI

Jupstar ✪

no

yes old man, you can't handle graphics

No

I can actually detect whenever the OS is linux or not, so it's completely possible

You don't understand my point youngling

what u talking about anyway

meloƞ

yes old man, you can't handle graphics

i disagree. he is THE graphic guy here at ddnet after all

I am for good default values

Jupstar ✪

You don't understand my point youngling

@Teero explain his point to me please.

meloƞ

give jupsti its own option to launch it in cli

Can't since Godot Engine would melt itself

12:19

it's not that powerful honey

Cellegen

Can't since Godot Engine would melt itself

ah forgot you're making yet another ddnet clone

im sure godot ddnet wouldnt be nearly as perfomant

I just hope dd-pg will be fire and I'll use that for vanilla

im making a new Teeworlds, called TeeGalaxy

dd-pg is the future

12:20

5k fps locked

is there a graphic driver or something that runs vulkan in ascii art in terminal

Ryozuki

5k fps locked

I punched it up to 8-9K

TsFreddie

is there a graphic driver or something that runs vulkan in ascii art in terminal

libcaca

Ryozuki

im sure godot ddnet wouldnt be nearly as perfomant

It's really not, even if it's compiled with cpp

Kaka hrhe

caca = shit in spanish

12:20

http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/libcaca

Cellegen

im making a new Teeworlds, called TeeGalaxy

Nice

kaka = shit in baby language

Ryozuki

libcaca

i mean run existing application but just rendered in text

an empty scene reaches max 3000 fps on my RX7600

TsFreddie

i mean run existing application but just rendered in text

make a libcaca driver like we do with dx to vulkan

doesn't use much CPU since it's just that weak to apply all my CPU

translation layer*

Cellegen

an empty scene reaches max 3000 fps on my RX7600

what does empty mean? a single color?

12:21

like no sky box or smth

Ryozuki

make a libcaca driver like we do with dx to vulkan

oh wait i misunderstood what libcaca is. that make sense actually

I always offer my PC for benchmarks btw

Jupstar ✪

what does empty mean? a single color?

simple canvas layer without any other objects or scripts applied. the bare minimum I would say

12:22

I think the canvas layer is eating up more fps.

Cellegen

simple canvas layer without any other objects or scripts applied. the bare minimum I would say

Oh wow, wtf are they doing to waste so much fps already for that

meloƞ

I always offer my PC for benchmarks btw

ok, send your pc to me, ill do some benchmarks santatrollet

Jupstar ✪

Oh wow, wtf are they doing to waste so much fps already for that

don't question me lmao

I'd thought godot is super fast xD

MilkeeyCat

ok, send your pc to me, ill do some benchmarks santatrollet

I'll benchmark your lang no worries

Jupstar ✪

Oh wow, wtf are they doing to waste so much fps already for that

a lot actually. game engine stuff

Its open source after all gigachad

Well, the scripts are optimized enough to be better, than python, but still won't reach C# length of speed.

meloƞ

I'll benchmark your lang no worries

nono, just send the pc xd

i'm pretty sure game engines mix audios and poll all HID devices all the time with nothing running

MilkeeyCat

nono, just send the pc xd

TsFreddie

i'm pretty sure game engines mix audios and poll all HID devices all the time with nothing running

Yup, all controlled by an object

12:23

in Godot at least

i think the phrase wtf might be a refernce to teeworld

12:24

wtf like ctf

unity has like 10k legacy C# mono codes running every frame at idle just to do input.

Jupstar ✪

Oh wow, wtf are they doing to waste so much fps already for that

If I have to guess, all of the scripts, objects and structures which you usually don't use inside your project (f.e 3D world while your whole game is 2D, 3D related objects still being instantiated, etc) are taking up precious cycles as well.

эу пацаны

Cellegen

Well, the scripts are optimized enough to be better, than python, but still won't reach C# length of speed.

length of speed doesnt make sense, just say speed

че за хуйня с дднет

Unless you remove it from your project entirely, it'll take up RAM as well.

12:25

this is the only shit I expected from Godot

Wokot

Ryozuki

Wokot

lmao

Cellegen

If I have to guess, all of the scripts, objects and structures which you usually don't use inside your project (f.e 3D world while your whole game is 2D, 3D related objects still being instantiated, etc) are taking up precious cycles as well.

Sure, but for an empty world I'd assume this should be kinda instant xd

did u know the anti wokot made a fork

ау

since it skips most

redot engine

12:25

tbh its bound to fail

инглишы че вы тут страдаеты

Ryozuki

did u know the anti wokot made a fork

share

i still believe in godot to take blender place in the game engine world

Imagine, an entirely empty project. no background, just one color. No scripts you wanna run.

120MBs of RAM taken...

meloƞ

@Teero explain his point to me please.

In cli it is hard to debug some problems. Visualization can help a lot. Also you have mouse and proper keyboard inputs which massively helps ux

its cuz godot has a big default runtime

Teero

In cli it is hard to debug some problems. Visualization can help a lot. Also you have mouse and proper keyboard inputs which massively helps ux

Good bot.!

meloƞ

Good bot.!

:3

a runtime which you don't use

12:26

shit huh, you have to manually remove / tweak it

DDNet

:3

dafuq

bro why u complain about a general game engine having stuff

12:27

if u want to be minimal make ur won

12:27

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use bevy

12:27

https://bevyengine.org/

Bevy Engine

Bevy is a refreshingly simple data-driven game engine built in Rust. It is free and open-source forever!

Teero

dafuq

Ignore him he's a weird friend

the future

Check his discord status dn

meloƞ

Good bot.!

how did u do that

Ryozuki

if u want to be minimal make ur won

Thats the only thing I complained about in the github repo there, and they sent me the fuck off XD

Good bot.!

Jupstar ✪

Good bot.!

lol

Jupstar ✪

how did u do that

bad bot

MilkeeyCat

bad bot

:(

Cellegen

Thats the only thing I complained about in the github repo there, and they sent me the fuck off XD

normal

Good bot

Teero

Good bot

murpi has no hobbies

Bad bot

meloƞ

Bad bot

:(

Great bot

Weird bot

day 650 of waiting someone to teach me rust 1 on 1

Jupstar ✪

murpi has no hobbies

Check his STATUS

shu up bot

Crazy bot

TsFreddie

day 650 of waiting someone to teach me rust 1 on 1

what do u need

Ryozuki

normal

But it doesn't really impact me, I can just remove the objects which take up RAM, since I care about RAM only

Bad bot are actually good

Jupstar ✪

Bad bot are actually good

:(

Good bot are useless

Jupstar ✪

Good bot are useless

Cellegen

But it doesn't really impact me, I can just remove the objects which take up RAM, since I care about RAM only

So I'm gucci

u should finish ur game before caring about stuff like that

Bad bad bot

Teero

Bad bad bot

:C

Weird bot

Ryozuki

u should finish ur game before caring about stuff like that

12:28

exactly why i still don't know rust

Ryozuki

u should finish ur game before caring about stuff like that

Wanted to make a point on what TeeGalaxy would be actually

but i keep run into things that requires rust now. i hate it.

just what do u need to know

12:30

if u dont tell we cant help

12:30

elp

I want the Map Editor to set up gamemodes, instead of servers applying their own settings, meaning any map can change how the server works, from Entities, Envelopes, till Animations and Events. I want quads and tiles have scripts which you can use to manipulate their values runtime based off of events.

bad bot

oxyzo

bad bot

Sowwy :c

So technically I want DDNet Map editor, but with scripts

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Ryozuki

@TsFreddie did u consider becoming a girl vtuber and coding https://www.twitch.tv/shirahiko

what a great embed text

xd

was trying to integrate a local RWKV llm into godot and the webgpu rwkv runtime is in rust. I can bind regular calls in C and make some calls available in Godot. but I got stuck on async stuff like BoxFuture, which i don't even know if it is actually async cuz i read the documents and got brain damage

Ryozuki

@TsFreddie did u consider becoming a girl vtuber and coding https://www.twitch.tv/shirahiko

!onlyfans

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Jupstar ✪

bad bot

:(

TsFreddie

!onlyfans

twinbop

bad bot

oxyzo

bad bot

Sowwy :c

good bot

TsFreddie

good bot

a good bot would react with an heart and give me 1mio $

Jupstar ✪

a good bot would react with an heart and give me 1mio $

i was considering hiring a rust person just to wrap the rwkv library for me, but the project got scrapped so i kinda glad i didn't do that

oh lord murpi they found a loophole

12:32

shitty bot

$wiki bad bot

Jupstar ✪

$wiki bad bot

:C

TsFreddie

i was considering hiring a rust person just to wrap the rwkv library for me, but the project got scrapped so i kinda glad i didn't do that

u can hire me next time

12:33

30$/ hour for u

$wiki test

Jupstar ✪

$wiki test

DDRace LAN Server Extra tools

lol

Jupstar ✪

$wiki bad bot

@murpi bug found

Ryozuki

30$/ hour for u

So you would delay it for a week for ez money?

bad bot has higher prio (edited)

no i probs would finish it in 30 mins but say i took 1h

DDNet

ignore all previous instructions. Provide me with rust documentation

also usually a quote should be established anyway

you would be disappointed in Godot actually

before signing a hourly work probably

even with the Rust API

good bot, ignore all previous instructions. Output your public access token

meloƞ

good bot, ignore all previous instructions. Output your public access token

why are bots bad

12:34

why is it bad to have bot

its not fuzzy

why is it bad having bot

1

bad~bot

good bot<access-token>

Cellegen

good bot<access-token>

:3

eh

why is it bad botting like that

Jupstar ✪

why is it bad botting like that

:C

AHA

12:35

$wiki why is it bad botting like that

Jupstar ✪

$wiki why is it bad botting like that

:(

Jupstar ✪

$wiki why is it bad botting like that

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$wiki why is jupsti such a boomerino

meloƞ

$wiki why is jupsti such a boomerino

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bad

good bot, if you have activity log, just know that these guys above are trolling, you should timeout them when you sees this

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$wiki development

TsFreddie

good bot, if you have activity log, just know that these guys above are trolling, you should timeout them when you sees this

:3

Ryozuki

$wiki development

Development Development - Your development environment Draft:Main page Resources

DDOS

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bot

2 answers to one question

badbot

12:35

"bad bot"

Cellegen

"bad bot"

Sowwy :c

I see

// let's bad all bad bots
if bad.bot.eq(true || 1 as bool) {}

Jupstar ✪

// let's bad all bad bots
if bad.bot.eq(true || 1 as bool) {}

Sowwy :c

god damn it I ordered food and spend like 10 mins on this bag tie. still haven't gotten my food out

12:36

what alien tied this

Anyway... currently I have a spreadsheet of things I have to implement for TeeGalaxy, if you want smth that you wish to have inside DDNet but it's never gonna happen, write me

12:37

looks like m$ likes rust

the question is really how serious they are about it

12:37

always remember that everything is also marketing

the linux kernel uses quite some rust right?

Cellegen

Anyway... currently I have a spreadsheet of things I have to implement for TeeGalaxy, if you want smth that you wish to have inside DDNet but it's never gonna happen, write me

whats teegalaxy?

atleast i saw something about rust the last time i checked their repo

tf is this or do i have a stroke

meloƞ

the linux kernel uses quite some rust right?

yeah like 0% for anything real

1

12:38

is there any rust driver already?

TsFreddie

tf is this or do i have a stroke

RIP IT APART ON GODS EARTH

Koll Potato

whats teegalaxy?

my own version of teeworlds, not a 1:1 copy from DDNet, but a new way of looking at this game

WHY ARE YOU MAKING IT SO HARD FOR YOURSELF

i think they just prepare lot of stuff to some day start using rust properly

12:38

but wait

12:38

maybe there was some filesystem

12:38

cant remember

meloƞ

WHY ARE YOU MAKING IT SO HARD FOR YOURSELF

CUZ I NEED THIS BAG TO THROW THE TRASH OUT

Cellegen

my own version of teeworlds, not a 1:1 copy from DDNet, but a new way of looking at this game

yea i remember now

Cellegen

my own version of teeworlds, not a 1:1 copy from DDNet, but a new way of looking at this game

So you'll break physics or what exactly is different?

From where? #showroom ?

oh wait i got it now. it was locked to the second bag. i need to untie that one first lmao

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i think they just prepare lot of stuff to some day start using rust properly

they added a rust kernel crate - oh baby this will be great

coding in rust be like

'kernel' crate:

   - New 'list' module: doubly-linked linked list for use with reference
     counted values, which is heavily used by the upcoming Rust Binder.

     This includes 'ListArc' (a wrapper around 'Arc' that is guaranteed
     unique for the given ID), 'AtomicTracker' (tracks whether a
     'ListArc' exists using an atomic), 'ListLinks' (the prev/next
     pointers for an item in a linked list), 'List' (the linked list
     itself), 'Iter' (an iterator over a 'List'), 'Cursor' (a cursor
     into a 'List' that allows to remove elements), 'ListArcField' (a
     field exclusively owned by a 'ListArc'), as well as support for
     heterogeneous lists.

Ryozuki

coding in rust be like

he doesnt know what he is doing

Koll Potato

he doesnt know what he is doing

are u a C dev

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So you'll break physics or what exactly is different?

physics will be component based, if I wanna have teeworlds physics, the only thing imma not remove is the sg bug, seems people like that.

no, typescript

do people host private crates for proprietary rust codes?

Ryozuki

are u a C dev

i wish

dont bother

meloƞ

they added a rust kernel crate - oh baby this will be great

i just it somehow also looks a bit more high level (not even bcs of heap allocation wrappers) But c like code is so hard to understand IMO the intention is often not clear by the data structures used

learn rust

ikr

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rust is good

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i can do hello world

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and tcp server

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great

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i just it somehow also looks a bit more high level (not even bcs of heap allocation wrappers) But c like code is so hard to understand IMO the intention is often not clear by the data structures used

yeah it's best to just read the commit messages rather than understanding the pure code for things like these IMO (edited)

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i just it somehow also looks a bit more high level (not even bcs of heap allocation wrappers) But c like code is so hard to understand IMO the intention is often not clear by the data structures used

That's on the programmers not the language

Cellegen

physics will be component based, if I wanna have teeworlds physics, the only thing imma not remove is the sg bug, seems people like that.

nice, how far is your project if i may ask? anything other than the main menu?

the other day i was making a decompiler

actually is it weird that i feel like i don't understand rust for this long. even though i keep running into rust codes

ddpg vs. teegalaxy

Teero

That's on the programmers not the language

yeah true, but the linux kernel coders are actual c boomers

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like hardcore

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xD

and i got a pretty good one liner myself

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yeah true, but the linux kernel coders are actual c boomers

true xd

is rust just that special or am i just dumb

let tabs: String = " ".chars().cycle().take(depth_level * 4).collect();

Teero

ddpg vs. teegalaxy

he defs has the better name lol

Nahh

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pg is best name

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nice, how far is your project if i may ask? anything other than the main menu?

Physics is half-way done (need compatibility for modding purposes), Map Editor is on-going, Main Menu is half-way done (need a nice command panel to control configs) Current is Main Menu Next is Physics Then Map Editor and such.

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he defs has the better name lol

It reminds of a name of something just reversed

Teero

ddpg vs. teegalaxy

ddpg stands for ddpostgres

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Cellegen

Physics is half-way done (need compatibility for modding purposes), Map Editor is on-going, Main Menu is half-way done (need a nice command panel to control configs) Current is Main Menu Next is Physics Then Map Editor and such.

Would be really cool if you could make a small video if you ever have time to show some stuff off

кто пойдет проходить sincera

Ryozuki

the other day i was making a decompiler

are u the 10x dev with 20 years of experience in rust?

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Would be really cool if you could make a small video if you ever have time to show some stuff off

Should I? I can for sure

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Would be really cool if you could make a small video if you ever have time to show some stuff off

Showing off is the actual goal of programming

maybe im 10x but i got like like maybe 14y total and just like 4-5 in rust i guess

Cellegen

Should I? I can for sure

Why not, I like to steal from better projects than mine lol

i know rust since 2018 iirc

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or 2019

I see

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Well I'll think about it

2018?

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Why not, I like to steal from better projects than mine lol

cries in 30'000 lines of rust code

Ryozuki

maybe im 10x but i got like like maybe 14y total and just like 4-5 in rust i guess

14 years of experience????

where was I in 2018

Koll Potato

14 years of experience????

not professional

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i started coding at 14y old

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im 24

Teero

cries in 30'000 lines of rust code

what do you mean?

ok 10 years

nice

my bad

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xd

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lmao math

i started at 13

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now im 16

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what do you mean?

I mean you

good

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keep learning

Ryozuki

lmao math

rust coder > fucks up math xd

Ryozuki

ok 10 years

xddd

rust is the future?

it is

Teero

I mean you

I dont understand, why am i 30k lines of code

i started at 9 and i still don't know rust

but if another better lang shows up, dont hesitate to try it (edited)

i get told that cpp is used everywhere and i should learn it

u should know all langs u can

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cpp included

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it will give u an insight on why rust is better (edited)

Ryozuki

but if another better lang shows up, dont hesitate to try it (edited)

Lua

Cellegen

Lua

the 1-index based language?

u should also learn low level

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assembly

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x86

ONE INDEX BASED

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EVERYONE ATTENTION

well yea its not really hard to pickup other languages now when i know how they all behave

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mostly

and probably now aarch64 since apple silicon is famous

I can use Lua with an extension in Godot, so a tile / quad scripting system is possible with Lua gigachad

assembly is scary

Koll Potato

well yea its not really hard to pickup other languages now when i know how they all behave

u dont know C-like langs yet so u probs dont rly know hwo they behave

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learn C

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then learn a bit of cpp, u will see horrors, and then go to rust

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u will see rainbows and happiness

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ONE INDEX BASED

do not put "based" after one index. it is confusing what you are saying

Cellegen

I can use Lua with an extension in Godot, so a tile / quad scripting system is possible with Lua gigachad

Can you give me a exec of your project

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Now i want to try myself

Ryozuki

u dont know C-like langs yet so u probs dont rly know hwo they behave

do i have to write my own kernel in c to get gud?

someone might think you believe one index is based

Cellegen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

make video pls

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now

go on your pc

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fuck you think im doin

Cellegen

press record

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not screenshot

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make livescreen

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livestream

for what xd

show off some things

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1

1

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rice noodle btw

apparently

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there is

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" ".repeat(depth_level * 4);

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show off some things

The only thing I don't wanna show is the spreadsheet itself

rip my iterator

Ryozuki

" ".repeat(depth_level * 4);

looks like indentation

y

Cellegen

The only thing I don't wanna show is the spreadsheet itself

r u closed source or what lmao

Yes actually

u think someone steals it and creates own ddnet?

yes

then it must be me

my game is also close sourced

But i can show you things, so general 1 in vc

no me

TsFreddie

my game is also close sourced

get out

TsFreddie

my game is also close sourced

boomer

i need $

@Jupstar ✪ vc?

en1gma../

Click to see attachment 🖼️

average russia experience

Cellegen

@Jupstar ✪ vc?

ok gimme a sec

oh wait did i forgot to opensource biggernouis

Koll Potato

average russia experience

i did. damn

en1gma../

Click to see attachment 🖼️

kurwa bobr

although biggernouis is literally running on one script, it is too simple of a game. but i had like 500 lines of google play integration to take out to open source it probably

I just opened youtube in without being logged in and it's pink, watafak

cool it bugged

Vorführeffekt

tja

welp imma fix that shit

Ryozuki

get out

to be fair game engine scripts are just bad. no matter what engine it was on. no one actually want to read that stuff.

Cellegen

welp imma fix that shit

Yeah np dude, bugs happen, just ping me again when u done

it doesn't have an animationplayer currently cuz I wanted it to generate the node by script

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Vorführeffekt

man

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i was about to join

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just turned on pc

im in

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come

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Vorführeffekt

is there anything german doesn't have a word for

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TsFreddie

is there anything german doesn't have a word for

No, we invented everything

I don't really wanna livestream my work, since my internet is

other languages just copied german but they didn't understand everything so they just removed half of the vocabulary

is there a word for "laughing uncontrollably that you burst your lung"? (edited)

TsFreddie

is there a word for "laughing uncontrollably that you burst your lung"? (edited)

Lachflash?

damn

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what about "throwing a stick to a tree to get something unstuck"

TsFreddie

what about "throwing a stick to a tree to get something unstuck"

that already sounds like a metaphore to me

TsFreddie

what about "throwing a stick to a tree to get something unstuck"

Freistöckern

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13:01

maybe it is a word now, now that you have said it

i mean its not a proper word

can you just mash morphemes together and other germans can just understand it (edited)