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Between 2024-10-01 00:00 and 2024-10-02 00:00
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GitHub BOT 2024-10-01 02:44
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6953 Add a new network message for chat commands
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GitHub BOT 2024-10-01 05:58
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9088 Explicitly set m_LastSetTeam to zero
It is compared to 0 in gamecontext.cpp but it is never explicitly set to 0. C++ if(pPlayer->GetTeam() == pMsg->m_Team || (g_Config.m_SvSpamprotection && pPlayer->m_LastSetTeam && pPlayer->m_LastSetTeam + Server()->TickSpeed() * g_Config.m_SvTeamChangeDelay > Server()->Tick())) return;

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GitHub BOT 2024-10-01 09:15
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9089 Add /top5points -1
would be nice to see how many names collected points already
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Koll Potato 2024-10-01 09:50
hi developas
09:51
rewrite ddnet in rust when
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Koll Potato
rewrite ddnet in rust when
Matodor 2024-10-01 10:05
never, because our developers do not play "developers", they do not chase trendy languages ​​and technologies, their main goal is to support and develop new interesting game mechanics, and not to chase refactoring and performance
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jxsl13 2024-10-01 10:08
well, rust in the codebase seems to indicate the opposite. (edited)
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Matodor
never, because our developers do not play "developers", they do not chase trendy languages ​​and technologies, their main goal is to support and develop new interesting game mechanics, and not to chase refactoring and performance
Koll Potato 2024-10-01 10:17
u not a developa and i was joking
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10:18
its a meme to say rewrite it in rust
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Matodor 2024-10-01 10:27
guys....... don't you understand irony? troll
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Koll Potato 2024-10-01 10:31
iron
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basicaly 2024-10-01 10:32
i dont think they willplayingtee
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Koll Potato 2024-10-01 10:35
ok serious question now for developas, if i submit a new feature that can reduce performance a little bit will i get beaten to death or not?
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basicaly 2024-10-01 10:36
both
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vibing
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Matodor
guys....... don't you understand irony? troll
jxsl13 2024-10-01 11:04
no
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 11:16
Rewrite ddnet physics in rust
11:16
Then your dreams come
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basicaly 2024-10-01 11:17
real
11:18
would be cool if moderators will have the banhammer ingame to strike ppltrollking
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ragouis
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basicaly
would be cool if moderators will have the banhammer ingame to strike ppltrollking
jxsl13 2024-10-01 11:20
great idea
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timakro
i thought maybe to indicate that a player is invincible we could not render the feet and instead render a ufo so that it looks as if the tee is flying in a ufo (edited)
timakro 2024-10-01 11:21
any idea who could make a flying saucer sprite for the game?
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jxsl13
great idea
meloƞ 2024-10-01 11:30
me turning it on and chasing people on linear boom
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jxsl13 2024-10-01 11:31
that's funny
11:31
visually punish people
11:32
reminds me of the (fictional) middle ages
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GitHub BOT 2024-10-01 11:32
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7033 (Please) update fix_style.py to a clang-format version available in modern distros
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Learath2 2024-10-01 11:32
I used to play an ancient game where a game mode like that was a common event on private servers. In GunZ private servers, 2 admins would take 30 people into the lobby and shoot at them with rocket launchers that kicked the person they hit. The last person remaining would get a reward
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jxsl13 2024-10-01 11:32
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Learath2 2024-10-01 11:33
Not exactly the "banhammer" but "kickrocket" is close enough 😄
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basicaly 2024-10-01 11:34
lol
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Learath2 2024-10-01 11:34
But we have no cosmetics to give away
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jxsl13 2024-10-01 11:35
basically zCatch with extra steps
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._.
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basically zCatch with extra steps
Learath2 2024-10-01 11:35
You can't kill the people hunting you though. You just have to run away
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Learath2
I used to play an ancient game where a game mode like that was a common event on private servers. In GunZ private servers, 2 admins would take 30 people into the lobby and shoot at them with rocket launchers that kicked the person they hit. The last person remaining would get a reward
oxyzo 2024-10-01 11:35
the reward: "congrats"
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jxsl13 2024-10-01 11:35
ok
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oxyzo
the reward: "congrats"
Learath2 2024-10-01 11:36
It was usually a colored name or one of the two weapon skins that were reserved as event rewards
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Learath2
I used to play an ancient game where a game mode like that was a common event on private servers. In GunZ private servers, 2 admins would take 30 people into the lobby and shoot at them with rocket launchers that kicked the person they hit. The last person remaining would get a reward
Koll Potato 2024-10-01 11:46
reward is permanent ban?
11:46
would be even funnier event
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GitHub BOT 2024-10-01 11:53
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9088 Explicitly set m_LastSetTeam to zero
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
547a9a0 Explicitly set m_LastSetTeam to zero - ChillerDragon d8bbf69 Merge pull request #9088 from ChillerDragon/pr_set_last_set_team - def-
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 12:05
im a madman im migrating my domain mail to mailcow
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GitHub BOT 2024-10-01 12:10
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue reopened: #7033 (Please) update fix_style.py to a clang-format version available in modern distros
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Ryozuki
im a madman im migrating my domain mail to mailcow
timakro 2024-10-01 12:21
where have you been before?
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 12:31
fastmail
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not self hosted
12:31
im self hosting again
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TsFreddie 2024-10-01 12:31
again
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 12:31
if china cant receive my emails is not my problem
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TsFreddie 2024-10-01 12:36
i don't think i know how to log stuff (edited)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KfXl7QdMD8
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timakro 2024-10-01 12:45
@Ryozuki i'm also self hosting https://tschumacher.net/self-host-email/
Self-hosting email is not rocket science
Inspired by a recent Hacker News comment, I’m publishing the notes I took when I set up my email server two years ago. This covers all the steps to get from a fresh Debian install to a working email setup. My setup features a spam filter and SPF, DKIM and DMARC for reliable delivery but is otherwise pretty minimal. I’ve been using this with Thun...
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basically just postfix + dovecot + rspamd on a debian vm
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 12:46
ye i got a cheap vps
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and mailcow is all that autoconfigured with docker
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its dope
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timakro 2024-10-01 12:47
i'm not having any deliverabilty issues
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it might be a gamble with the ip you get idk
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 12:48
it tells u if ur ip is clean
12:48
it told me it is
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altho i sent a cleartext mail to gmail and i appeared in spam xd
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timakro 2024-10-01 12:49
that's nice
12:49
it checks if your ip is on any blacklists i suppose
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 12:49
ye
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timakro 2024-10-01 12:49
you can check in gmail if you find the right button why it was put in spam
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 12:49
https://docs.mailcow.email/
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timakro 2024-10-01 12:50
and you can see if dmarc/dkim/spf worked
12:50
https://www.mail-tester.com/ is also great for testing - although i suppose mailcow would do everything correct there by default
Newsletters spam test by mail-tester.com
mail-tester.com is a free online service that allows you to test your emails for Spam, Malformed Content and Mail Server Configuration problems
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Learath2 2024-10-01 12:50
Deliverability is a huge issue from Hetzner, so I can never self host my mail, atleast not the outbound smtp
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timakro 2024-10-01 12:51
hmm i am on hetzner since two years self hosting
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Learath2 2024-10-01 12:51
I might set it up again one day using aws as my outbound
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Though it has been almost a decade since I tried, maybe with all the new dmarc spf dkim stuff it's now easier to be trusted enough not to directly land in spam
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timakro 2024-10-01 12:53
i've just checked my ip on https://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx (the first google result) and it says i'm not blacklisted
12:53
fwiw
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Learath2 2024-10-01 12:53
I'm on one blacklist and I've owned this ip for a decade now. There is no way I sent the spam, so it's just a subnet thing :/
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 13:02
i guess u got unlucky
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Learath2 2024-10-01 13:03
I also tested it a decade ago when most of these security things didn't exist yet
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 13:03
on the second email it got delivered to main box
13:03
maybe its cuz i removed it from spam
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anyway
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i want to use it for my services
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mailcow has dkim and all
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and arc
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authenticated_Received_Chain
Authenticated Received Chain
Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) is an email authentication system designed to allow an intermediate mail server like a mailing list or forwarding service to sign an email's original authentication results. This allows a receiving service to validate an email when the email's SPF and DKIM records are rendered invalid by an intermediate server'...
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timakro
https://www.mail-tester.com/ is also great for testing - although i suppose mailcow would do everything correct there by default
Ryozuki 2024-10-01 13:06
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indeed it does everything perfekt
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TsFreddie 2024-10-01 13:45
wow, you can send!
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 13:51
xd
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timakro
@Ryozuki i'm also self hosting https://tschumacher.net/self-host-email/
zhn 2024-10-01 14:47
oh, time to host a mail server
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 15:01
https://www.clear.rice.edu/comp512/Lectures/Papers/1971-allen-catalog.pdf
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jxsl13 2024-10-01 15:16
rice university - rice your linux like a lro
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pro
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Daniel 2024-10-01 15:26
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[builder-ddnet 9/9] RUN mkdir build && cd build && cmake .. -DMYSQL=ON -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release && make -j$(nproc) DDNet-Server:
7.639 -- Looking for WavpackCloseFile 7.715 -- Looking for WavpackCloseFile - found 7.722 CMake Error: File /app/cmake/checksummed_extra.txt does not exist. 7.722 CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:2904 (configure_file): 7.722 configure_file Problem configuring file 7.722 7.722 7.771 -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! 7.771 See also "/app/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log". 7.771 See also "/app/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log". ------ Has anyone ever encountered such an error? If I want to build the execution file locally with custom Dockerfile then it works but with github workflows it always fails at the checksum this has never happened to me until I downloaded the latest version. The place in cmakelist has also not been edited or changed for 2 years. this is cutout of the Dockerfile (some double like install rustc and the rustup but this shoudl be not the problem) FROM debian:12 AS builder-ddnet RUN apt-get update && apt-get install -y gcc-mingw-w64-x86-64-posix \ g++-mingw-w64-x86-64-posix \ gcc-mingw-w64-i686-posix \ g++-mingw-w64-i686-posix \ wget \ git \ ca-certificates \ build-essential \ python3 \ libcurl4-openssl-dev \ libfreetype6-dev \ libglew-dev \ libogg-dev \ libopus-dev \ libpng-dev \ libwavpack-dev \ libopusfile-dev \ libsdl2-dev \ cmake \ glslang-tools \ libavcodec-extra \ libavdevice-dev \ libavfilter-dev \ libavformat-dev \ libavutil-dev \ libcurl4-openssl-dev \ libnotify-dev \ libsqlite3-dev \ libssl-dev \ libvulkan-dev \ libx264-dev \ spirv-tools \ rustc \ curl \ libmariadb-dev \ libwebsocketpp-dev \ libboost-dev \ nlohmann-json3-dev \ libboost-all-dev \ libssl-dev RUN curl https://sh.rustup.rs -sSf | \ sh -s -- --default-toolchain stable -y RUN ~/.cargo/bin/rustup toolchain install stable RUN ~/.cargo/bin/rustup target add i686-pc-windows-gnu RUN ~/.cargo/bin/rustup target add x86_64-pc-windows-gnu ENV CARGO_NET_GIT_FETCH_WITH_CLI=true WORKDIR /app COPY . /app RUN mkdir build && cd build && \ cmake .. -DMYSQL=ON -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug && \ make -j$(nproc) DDNet-Server` can someone be my rubberduck 😄
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[builder-ddnet 9/9] RUN mkdir build && cd build && cmake .. -DMYSQL=ON -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release && make -j$(nproc) DDNet-Server:
7.639 -- Looking for WavpackCloseFile 7.715 -- Looking for WavpackCloseFile - found 7.722 CMake Error: File /app/cmake/checksummed_extra.txt does not exist. 7.722 CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:2904 (configure_file): 7.722 configure_file Problem configuring file 7.722 7.722 7.771 -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! 7.771 See also "/app/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log". 7.771 See also "/app/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log". ------ Has anyone ever encountered such an error? If I want to build the execution file locally with custom Dockerfile then it works but with github workflows it always fails at the checksum this has never happened to me until I downloaded the latest version. The place in cmakelist has also not been edited or changed for 2 years. this is cutout of the Dockerfile (some double like install rustc and the rustup but this shoudl be not the problem) FROM debian:12 AS builder-ddnet RUN apt-get update && apt-get install -y gcc-mingw-w64-x86-64-posix \ g++-mingw-w64-x86-64-posix \ gcc-mingw-w64-i686-posix \ g++-mingw-w64-i686-posix \ wget \ git \ ca-certificates \ build-essential \ python3 \ libcurl4-openssl-dev \ libfreetype6-dev \ libglew-dev \ libogg-dev \ libopus-dev \ libpng-dev \ libwavpack-dev \ libopusfile-dev \ libsdl2-dev \ cmake \ glslang-tools \ libavcodec-extra \ libavdevice-dev \ libavfilter-dev \ libavformat-dev \ libavutil-dev \ libcurl4-openssl-dev \ libnotify-dev \ libsqlite3-dev \ libssl-dev \ libvulkan-dev \ libx264-dev \ spirv-tools \ rustc \ curl \ libmariadb-dev \ libwebsocketpp-dev \ libboost-dev \ nlohmann-json3-dev \ libboost-all-dev \ libssl-dev RUN curl https://sh.rustup.rs -sSf | \ sh -s -- --default-toolchain stable -y RUN ~/.cargo/bin/rustup toolchain install stable RUN ~/.cargo/bin/rustup target add i686-pc-windows-gnu RUN ~/.cargo/bin/rustup target add x86_64-pc-windows-gnu ENV CARGO_NET_GIT_FETCH_WITH_CLI=true WORKDIR /app COPY . /app RUN mkdir build && cd build && \ cmake .. -DMYSQL=ON -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug && \ make -j$(nproc) DDNet-Server` can someone be my rubberduck 😄
Robyt3 2024-10-01 15:38
So it worked with a previous version? You could git bisect in the CI to find out what caused this justatest
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So it worked with a previous version? You could git bisect in the CI to find out what caused this justatest
Daniel 2024-10-01 16:07
its another project. i just copied the Dockerfile
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олтер 2024-10-01 16:09
gigachad
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troll
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ddnet
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 16:51
@Learath2 or @heinrich5991 do u have the capability to manage the dns records or just deen? specifically for wiki.ddnet.org
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basicaly 2024-10-01 17:11
i was sitting for like an hour thinking what is wrong until i see taht theres no "=". i hate godot
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Ryozuki
@Learath2 or @heinrich5991 do u have the capability to manage the dns records or just deen? specifically for wiki.ddnet.org
heinrich5991 2024-10-01 17:26
I do
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heinrich5991
I do
Ryozuki 2024-10-01 17:40
nvm deen answered me in dm already
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 17:51
yay, now wiki mails will come from no-reply@wiki.ddnet.org
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before they came from my old domain edgarluque.com ☠️
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GitHub BOT 2024-10-01 18:11
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
2e77c4b fix click drag navigation selecting quads/sounds - dobrykafe d3d4c18 Merge pull request #9059 from dobrykafe/pr-fix-drag-nav - Robyt3
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9059 Editor: fix click drag navigation selecting quads/sounds
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #9002 Editor: click drag navigation can catch quads and alter their position
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[ddnet:18.6-rc2] 13 new commits
652eda8 Version 18.6 - def- f6c6b27 Update Ukrainian l10n (18.6) - EGYT5453 ef5602a whoops - EGYT5453 810d150 Update Swedish translations for 18.6 - furo321 f3117ae Update Chinese translations for 18.6 - Pioooooo 781c804 Update Azerbaijanese translation for 18.6.txt - GokturkTalha fcc62f2 Update Turkish translation for 18.6.txt - GokturkTalha ae80bf9 update czech translations for 18.6 - dobrykafe f86d307 update slovak translations for 18.6 - dobrykafe 3a20ce0 Update Polish translations for 18.6 - KebsCS 8043c4f Update brazilian_portuguese.txt - rffontenelle 5f47fd6 fix context menu showing up after canceling quad rotation - dobrykafe 8f49e29 fix click drag navigation selecting quads/sounds - dobrykafe
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Learath2 2024-10-01 18:12
Woo, new version hype
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 18:23
epyc
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Ewan 2024-10-01 18:34
nice
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i wonder if it is even worth it to self-host email
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or just set up an existing service to use your domain
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email security features are quite involved and easy to get wrong
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 18:35
It was so annoying to setup email, that I decided to use gmail for acc testing xd
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I really hate these 500 step guides
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MilkeeyCat 2024-10-01 18:50
anyone pro in tree-sitter? I was trying to make highlighting for this keyword so it should be of type @variable if it's used in a function or @keyword if it's inside a method. I tried using has-ancestor? predicate and.. it did nothing, here's the whole thing: ((this) @variable (#has-ancestor? @keyword method_declaration)) https://github.com/MilkeeyCat/tree-sitter-meraki/compare/master...feat/this-highlighting
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anyone pro in tree-sitter? I was trying to make highlighting for this keyword so it should be of type @variable if it's used in a function or @keyword if it's inside a method. I tried using has-ancestor? predicate and.. it did nothing, here's the whole thing: ((this) @variable (#has-ancestor? @keyword method_declaration)) https://github.com/MilkeeyCat/tree-sitter-meraki/compare/master...feat/this-highlighting
Teero 2024-10-01 18:51
i bet you could paste it exactly as it is into an llm. gtg i cant help
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Ewan
email security features are quite involved and easy to get wrong
Ryozuki 2024-10-01 18:53
just use mailcow
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Teero
i bet you could paste it exactly as it is into an llm. gtg i cant help
MilkeeyCat 2024-10-01 18:53
i just did and it wrote nothing useful
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 18:58
i canceled my fastmail 5€ subscription which only lets you have 1 real domain as sender to a hetzner vps at 5€ with unlimited mails
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i cant host it on my main server because MX records and smtp itself leaks ips, its not covered by cloudflare
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:02
https://migadu.com/pricing/ is a small email hoster btw
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20$/y
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20$/y
Avolicious 2024-10-01 19:02
20 out/day, is this for emails?
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This sounds pretty much useless if you can only send 20 mails out a day
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:03
this is for a single person's mailbox
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Avolicious 2024-10-01 19:03
oh 😄
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:03
20 emails per day sounds fine for that, and it's not a hard limit
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Avolicious 2024-10-01 19:03
I thought for the account thing
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:03
yea, that would be way too little
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Avolicious 2024-10-01 19:03
We are sending roughly 200 to 400 mails out a day
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 19:04
Gmail allows 2000 xd
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:04
in the final impl, we'll probably want to not depend on google
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 19:05
It doesn't depend on anything. U can configure it
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:05
nice
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 19:07
I just hope whatever mail we'll choice is not landing in spam
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Learath2 2024-10-01 19:15
In my humble opinion, we should probably send accounts emails through aws or maybe cloudflare has something. We will be sending a lot of mail, if we set up something wrong we'll end up in a google blacklist where we can't easily get out and support won't tell us what's wrong
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Tater 2024-10-01 19:23
Cloudflare has emails?
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Learath2
In my humble opinion, we should probably send accounts emails through aws or maybe cloudflare has something. We will be sending a lot of mail, if we set up something wrong we'll end up in a google blacklist where we can't easily get out and support won't tell us what's wrong
heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:26
but I think we should send them from our own domain, even if we use a third-party service
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but I think we should send them from our own domain, even if we use a third-party service
Learath2 2024-10-01 19:28
Yes, from our domain but maybe through someone elses outbound smtp
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e.g. AWS
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 19:29
the cool thing is, u can even use steam for acc login, but then switch to a non-steam client
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:29
sounds fine unless someone wants to do the email server setup and maintenance dance
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 19:29
i hope steam is simply the most used xd
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i hope steam is simply the most used xd
heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:30
I'd guess it'll be
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heinrich5991
sounds fine unless someone wants to do the email server setup and maintenance dance
Learath2 2024-10-01 19:30
Maybe we can outsource it to @Ryozuki 😄
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:30
I already have nightmares about account recovery requests
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we should probably think about a strategy beforehand
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 19:30
i could but i would be target of ddos
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mail is rly hard to protect from ddos iirc
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heinrich5991
I already have nightmares about account recovery requests
Learath2 2024-10-01 19:31
Hm, why would it be a problem? Lost access to email?
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heinrich5991
I already have nightmares about account recovery requests
Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 19:31
for email or generally?
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 19:31
otherwise i wouldnt mind
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:31
or steam account
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Learath2 2024-10-01 19:31
I don't think that happens often enough
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But yeah, doesn't hurt to have a strategy prepared
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:31
@Avolicious do you have info on the above? how often do players lose access to their email accounts and have a problem with the kog account due to this?
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maybe we could try to detect temporary email addresses and warn players prominently that this is their only chance of account recovery
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and that they should consider using a non-temporary email provider
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 19:32
well u detect that with a email confirmation
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Learath2 2024-10-01 19:32
Maybe a one time static recovery token? If that's also lost shit out of luck
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well u detect that with a email confirmation
Learath2 2024-10-01 19:32
They can get the confirmation mail even if temporary
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 19:32
i mean its their fault
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:33
yes. that doesn't mean they won't cause support requests
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Maybe a one time static recovery token? If that's also lost shit out of luck
heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:33
not sure if that'd improve the situation for the people who'd lose access to their email accounts tbh
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 19:33
well i have no opinion on this, if u want a mail sysadmin i can offer myself to help
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 19:33
at least we'll never here that they lost their password lol
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 19:33
but that mail server would be a cheap vps hosted by ddnet
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 19:33
at least to the acc
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 19:33
not mine cuz i dont wanna get ddosed
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but that mail server would be a cheap vps hosted by ddnet
heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:34
sounds fine
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Learath2 2024-10-01 19:34
Idk if it's worth paying for a vps for outbound smtp when we can just pay for AWS SES
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 19:34
we also maybe should have a china dedicated vps mail server maybe
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idk
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Learath2 2024-10-01 19:35
AWS also probably penetrates the great chinese firewall easier than us
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 19:35
i assume we need a chinese acc server anyway xd
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Idk if it's worth paying for a vps for outbound smtp when we can just pay for AWS SES
heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:35
the benefit would be handling the data in a non-US country I guess
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although I guess we already route all our website traffic through cloudflare 🤷‍♀️
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i assume we need a chinese acc server anyway xd
Learath2 2024-10-01 19:35
100% btw is your implementation of the account server easy to multi-home?
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100% btw is your implementation of the account server easy to multi-home?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 19:36
it does that out of the box yeah, but tbf i haven't extensively tested it
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although I guess we already route all our website traffic through cloudflare 🤷‍♀️
heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:36
unencrypted, even
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the benefit would be handling the data in a non-US country I guess
Learath2 2024-10-01 19:36
Many of these big hosters offer gdpr compliant services too. We can probably opt into that
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Many of these big hosters offer gdpr compliant services too. We can probably opt into that
heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:36
there cannot be a US company handling data in GDPR-compliant manner
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there cannot be a US company handling data in GDPR-compliant manner
Learath2 2024-10-01 19:37
They can and probably do have an eu subsidiary that owns those servers
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:37
that doesn't help
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the US has access to all data, even by subsidiaries outside the US of companies inside the US (edited)
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by the cloud act, I think
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Act
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Learath2 2024-10-01 19:38
Huh, what if it's all encrypted until the final destination?
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:38
our emails can't be encrypted to the provider
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unless you want to make it unusable for the common person by using PGP ^^
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU–US_Data_Privacy_Framework there's a "framework" for US GDPR compliance every couple of years until it gets invalidated by the european court of justice
EU–US Data Privacy Framework
The EU–US Data Privacy Framework is a European Union–United States data transfer framework that was agreed to in 2022 and declared adequate by the European Commission in 2023. Previous such regimes—the EU–US Privacy Shield (2016–2020) and the International Safe Harbor Privacy Principles (2000–2015)—were declared invalid by the European Court of ...
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Learath2 2024-10-01 19:39
Hm, I wonder how this is handled by big companies. What if an eu company sends a mail to my gmail? Google is a US company
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:39
because of the obvious illegality wrt. the cloud act
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like the above. the EU commision pretends there's a way, then it gets invalidated a couple of years later
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Exen 2024-10-01 19:40
This channel has probably got every single person on the planet muted and online, i cant get my msgs cleared feelsbadman
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Learath2 2024-10-01 19:40
Sounds great
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This channel has probably got every single person on the planet muted and online, i cant get my msgs cleared feelsbadman
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Exen 2024-10-01 19:41
You know where i got all my msgs checked? Impossible cammostripes
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Hm, I wonder how this is handled by big companies. What if an eu company sends a mail to my gmail? Google is a US company
heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:41
I think that's obvious problem is also why there's a small push towards creating european alternatives that would be able to comply with the GDPR
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Ryozuki 2024-10-01 19:41
wdym?
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is there a strong filter here or smth? xD
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Learath2 2024-10-01 19:43
So I guess we can also just ignore gdpr I guess 😄
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Atleast for this unsolveable case
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heinrich5991 2024-10-01 19:44
as long as we route our web server stuff through cloudflare, I agree
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cloudflare is the worse problem wrt. data privacy
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cloudflare is the worse problem wrt. data privacy
Learath2 2024-10-01 21:06
Isn't this fixable? Shouldn't we issue a origin certificate and start encrypting all the way?
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Isn't this fixable? Shouldn't we issue a origin certificate and start encrypting all the way?
heinrich5991 2024-10-01 21:09
cloudflare always MITMs all traffic
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that's their modus operandi
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Learath2 2024-10-01 21:15
Mh, I guess they kinda have to for cleaning traffic purposes
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Ewan 2024-10-01 21:35
would it be possible to add tclient to DDNet's steam listing as a beta 🤔
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or would it need its own store page
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it is a different client but it would be very convenient
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9091 Show UI debug info inside editor

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would it be possible to add tclient to DDNet's steam listing as a beta 🤔
Learath2 2024-10-01 21:39
I would not feel comfortable shipping anyone elses code in our steam page
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would it be possible to add tclient to DDNet's steam listing as a beta 🤔
louis 2024-10-01 21:40
why not add the good features to ddnet main
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Ewan 2024-10-01 21:40
because they don't want them
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louis 2024-10-01 21:40
people can replace the .exe in steam if they want tclient
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Ewan 2024-10-01 21:40
of course they can
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but that is not what im asking at all
21:41
they would want to replace the DLLs too
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Learath2 2024-10-01 21:41
Again, at least I personally wouldn't be comfortable with it
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Ewan 2024-10-01 21:41
but sooner than any of that, add a non steam game
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Learath2
Again, at least I personally wouldn't be comfortable with it
Ewan 2024-10-01 21:41
yeah
21:41
makes sense
21:41
i don't like that there is a rift like this
21:41
tclient is a complete game changer for gores
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 21:42
bcs of fast input?
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Ewan 2024-10-01 21:42
yea
21:42
it's somewhat volatile too
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but when it works it's great
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 21:43
i know
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it's sadly also refresh rate dependent
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monitor hz too
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Again, at least I personally wouldn't be comfortable with it
heinrich5991 2024-10-01 21:46
I wonder if we could simply publish other clients as mods on steam 🤔
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mods exist on steam, and aren't really related to the main game
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I wonder if we could simply publish other clients as mods on steam 🤔
Learath2 2024-10-01 21:46
This I would be fine with. Idk how mods work and if they are allowed to straight up replace an executable and/or ship an executable at all though (edited)
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 21:49
we are getting competition from vanilla lol
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chillerdragon: i'll get timed out hard, but what do you think about that he used main branch
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we are getting competition from vanilla lol
Robyt3 2024-10-01 21:52
Seems either private or deleted, I'm getting 404
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Seems either private or deleted, I'm getting 404
Jupstar ✪ 2024-10-01 21:52
Yeah probs he didn't know the GH bot posts his commits xD
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Robyt3 2024-10-01 21:53
Well, it does seem like a bug that is posts commits to a private repo
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Seems either private or deleted, I'm getting 404
heinrich5991 2024-10-01 21:53
private
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GitHub BOT 2024-10-01 22:01
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9090 Update spanish.txt for 18.6
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9092 Add test map locally
Closes #6733 Closes #9009 Alternative to #9060 Runs a local server with the currently opened map (if it's saved to maps/) and automatically authenticates with a new custom rcon password https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/6fda8098-9a85-48a9-a2d9-fd84e770f361

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This I would be fine with. Idk how mods work and if they are allowed to straight up replace an executable and/or ship an executable at all though (edited)
Tater 2024-10-01 23:45
If you mean workshop mods they just get dropped into a folder and it's entirely up to the official application to manage the functionality of the mods.
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Some games just support re-textures or changing assets.
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Most games that have highly advanced mods on the steam workshop either have an extensive modding api, or they use C# and let the mods do whatever runtime patching they want.
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jxsl13 2024-10-01 23:57
time to ditch rust and c++ in favor of c#
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