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Between 2024-09-25 00:00 and 2024-09-26 00:00
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Skeith
Quite a bit more degenerate and disliked
PapotaV 2024-09-25 00:19
real, who likes that weird guy (edited)
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GitHub BOT 2024-09-25 01:50
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9033 Server side demos do not work with map paths
Assuming both maps exist foo.map and foo/bar.map This works: DDNet-Server "sv_auto_demo_record 1;sv_map foo" This does not: DDNet-Server "sv_auto_demo_record 1;sv_map foo/bar" Because it tries to write to a directory that does not exist in the demos directory. 2024-09-25 09:47:39 I demo_recorder: Unable to open 'demos/auto/server/foo/bar_2024-09-25_09-47-39.demo' for recording Could also see that as a feature to organize demos in fold...
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GitHub BOT 2024-09-25 02:54
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9034 Favorite entire ips without port
I would like to have an entire ip in my favorites no matter the port. There is already add_favorite 127.0.0.1:8303 It would be nice if there was also add_favorite 127.0.0.1
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GitHub BOT 2024-09-25 03:02
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #9034 Favorite entire ips without port
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GitHub BOT 2024-09-25 03:13
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9035 bypass http master for favorites to get unlisted server status
With the teeworlds master server you can see the server name and player count of your favorites even if they are not registered in the master sv_register 0. In ddnet this is no longer possible because the client gets all its information from the http master server which does not know about unlisted servers.
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ReiTW 2024-09-25 06:40
@Ryozuki https://x.com/TanelPoder/status/1838156726580707447 issou
Tanel Poder 🇺🇦 (@TanelPoder) on X
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-09-25 06:48
For 0.7 you need a maps7 folder next to your maps folder with the same map names and ideally they are also tested on 0.7 to look good
Replying to @LuKron specifically 0.7 versions of teeworlds
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 07:27
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/31329/
vulkan/wsi/wayland: Use frog-fifo-v1 protocol for FIFO (!31329) · M...
This MR adds support for the 'frog-fifo-v1' protocol from frog-protocols, a new repo of Wayland protocols that we intend to be more...
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Ryozuki
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/31329/
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 07:31
Xaver Hugl is the only legend
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and Simon Ser is always the person that is anti everything xD
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Ewan
papota seems to think that cuz he plays with a high point player every once in a while he can throw his weight around and insult noobs (or really anybody, for any reason, at any time. that is sort of his personality)
cyberfighter 2 2024-09-25 08:13
You smoked him
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:10
chillerdragon: wild issue lmao
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 09:12
<ChillerDragon> i tried vpn and latest ddnet built from source
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<ChillerDragon> i can for the life of it not get it to work
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<ChillerDragon> yo whats this about? 2024-09-25 17:11:04 E http: SHA256 mismatch: got=2f0cce80e748562a1a193cbe26f009ea410e4ea1e0f478d8aa242720e45e849f, expected=1be7415efe875dd4eb3695faa2d4f8a1fde3549671ee2a5e3ef07928a9d805ce, url=https://info.ddnet.org/icons/requiem.png
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:15
chillerdragon: i just mean the leak ip thing is totally broken. i can get serverinfo regardless whether leak ip is on and off.
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chillerdragon: i just mean the leak ip thing is totally broken. i can get serverinfo regardless whether leak ip is on and off.
heinrich5991 2024-09-25 09:16
was the server registered before? maybe its info is still lingering on one of the masterservers?
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:16
i checked. it wasn't in the list. but i can check the json. one sec
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 09:16
ChillerDragon: I also saw this issue the other day when doing the old version ban
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please open an issue ^^
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I decided to tackle it another day because the house was on fire
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:18
is this definitive
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 09:18
that's the wrong file
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:18
oh wait not
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ye, i realized
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 09:18
https://master1.ddnet.org/ddnet/15/servers.json
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or even better, the master your client has chosen
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:19
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 09:19
and now check in the client again
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:19
still there
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i can literally see my client ping it
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it starts with 999
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and it shows
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with Leak IP off
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 09:20
maybe you're on an another version?
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:20
steam version
09:20
let me double check
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 09:20
which masterserver does your client choose?
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:20
master4
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GitHub BOT 2024-09-25 09:20
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
d123aa6 Add ed_layer_selector config to to toggle layer selector feature - ChillerDragon cb4a66a Merge pull request #9031 from ChillerDragon/pr_cfg_layer_selector - Robyt3
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Robyt3
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9031 Add ed_layer_selector config to to toggle layer selector feature
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Robyt3
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #9029 Editor: the ctrl+right click selection is triggered by accident
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:22
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 09:22
<ChillerDragon> axaxax fred china firewall bypass
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<ChillerDragon> scariest command i ran in a while xd rm -rf -- -
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:22
i'm like, pretty sure this is pinging.
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 09:23
can you doublecheck in wireshark?
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GitHub BOT 2024-09-25 09:23
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9036 SHA256 mismatch requiem.png
2024-09-25 17:11:04 E http: SHA256 mismatch: got=2f0cce80e748562a1a193cbe26f009ea410e4ea1e0f478d8aa242720e45e849f, expected=1be7415efe875dd4eb3695faa2d4f8a1fde3549671ee2a5e3ef07928a9d805ce, url=https://info.ddnet.org/icons/requiem.png
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 09:23
just filter by that IP address
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:23
justatest i'm lazy
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 09:23
<ChillerDragon> @TsFreddie wat client u use
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<ChillerDragon> @TsFreddie wat client u use
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:23
steam ddnet
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 09:23
<ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 it was registered for a second yea
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:24
i mean, why did the ping change if it wasn't pinging it (edited)
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 09:24
<ChillerDragon> @TsFreddie you are probably using sp someones ddnet.tw backdoor master xd
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<ChillerDragon> @TsFreddie give ur ip i wireshark for u
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:25
catxplosion
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c.tsdo.in
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 09:25
<ChillerDragon> ?xd
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:26
i have a NAS setup in my home network so it has ddns
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GitHub BOT 2024-09-25 09:27
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9037 Map downloaded with incorrect expected SHA256
2024-09-22 00:17:42 E http: https://maps.ddnet.org/Pablik%203_af7adfe6f9dc2f18c7f5bef53f7bebe6a353895caab159230316353a93f70181.map failed. libcurl error (22): The requested URL returned error: 404 2024-09-22 00:17:42 I webdl: http failed, falling back to gameserver The SHA256 is that of AIP-Gores: https://maps.ddnet.org/AiP-Gores_af7adfe6f9dc2f18c7f5bef53f7bebe6a353895caab159230316353a93f70181.map.
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 09:27
<ChillerDragon> woah
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<ChillerDragon> did you just perma dox your self in public chat? xd
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<ChillerDragon> @TsFreddie ok im listening go do browser stuff
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<ChillerDragon> did you just perma dox your self in public chat? xd
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:29
ye, not that big of a deal really
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 09:29
<ChillerDragon> refresh!
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 09:29
ChillerDragon: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/9036
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 09:29
<ChillerDragon> I SEE U FRED
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<ChillerDragon> I SEE UU
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<ChillerDragon> fred hacked into my server omg
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:30
vibe
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ye
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meloƞ 2024-09-25 09:31
kekw
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:31
leak ip not ticked
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meloƞ 2024-09-25 09:31
FRED?!?!?!?
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 09:31
<ChillerDragon> fred request reveal https://twnet.zillyhuhn.com/?v=6&d=78+65+bb+c3+00+00+ff+ff+ff+ff+67+69+65+33+25
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:32
are we gonna warning everyone about using favorite at all below this version too now?
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that sounds like nightmare
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greenthing
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 09:35
ChillerDragon: fixed now? (requiem)
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 09:36
<ChillerDragon> no
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<ChillerDragon> you cant reproduce? its just starting a client
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ChillerDragon: fixed now? (requiem)
Robyt3 2024-09-25 09:37
yes
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:38
InsaneCat should i do something else. i don't think i was doing anything weird with my serverbrowser
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 09:38
<ChillerDragon> yea now it seems fixed
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<ChillerDragon> @TsFreddie unplug your main power unit your operation has been compromised
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<ChillerDragon> your ip is leaking!
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GitHub BOT 2024-09-25 09:39
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #9036 SHA256 mismatch requiem.png
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:39
vibe it's behind ISP's filter. i'll be fine
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 09:39
<ChillerDragon> CHINA firewall will protect you
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:39
i can't even use the entire port range. it just does not go through
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80 and 443 are the obvious ones. it just doesn't connect to my home via those. i guess it's for selling enterprise links.
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kekw you can probably just port scan and find some weak point tho. just tell me if you did tho so i can update my firewall.
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i'm more curious why changing ping each refresh isn't indicative. (edited)
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ye, imma just build a client myself and try to breakpoint why it is pinging i guess
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GitHub BOT 2024-09-25 09:54
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9038 Switch between browser/lan/favorites with arrow key left and right
!image I have this shortcut in term-ux and it feels quite natural there. I keep trying to press it in the ddnet client. Any objections? Otherwise I would send a pr.
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 09:54
@heinrich5991 if one of the server is Leak IP ticked. all favorite servers pings
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 09:56
oof
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:00
Someone email html pro?
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GitHub BOT 2024-09-25 10:03
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9039 Fix Leak IP check
one liner fix.
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Someone email html pro?
Ryozuki 2024-09-25 10:05
thats arcane html
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html 4.1
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Ryozuki
thats arcane html
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:07
i don't understand what that means, but if you ever worked with html in emails i'd like to know some things i have to be careful about
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:08
https://www.caniemail.com/ shows you what elements are supported
Can I email…
Support tables for HTML and CSS in emails
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:08
is this testing
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:09
this is testing. thanks
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:09
InsaneCat
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:09
xd
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TsFreddie
@heinrich5991 if one of the server is Leak IP ticked. all favorite servers pings
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:10
i guess more specifically if the first server of the queue is ticked then all server is pinged
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:10
you could add "Fixes #9035" to your PR description
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DDNet BOT 2024-09-25 10:10
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/9035
"Leak IP" maybe broken · Issue #9035 · ddnet/ddnet
With the teeworlds master server you can see the server name and player count of your favorites even if they are not registered in the master sv_register 0. In ddnet this is no longer possible beca...
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oxyzo 2024-09-25 10:11
what does "leak ip" even doowo
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oxyzo
what does "leak ip" even doowo
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:11
it leaks your ip
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think_bot
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oxyzo 2024-09-25 10:11
poggers2
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:11
it sends a packet to the server, requesting the server info and leaking your IP address
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:12
maybe you are right, it never worked if you have more than one server in your favorite.
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oxyzo 2024-09-25 10:12
thats awesome then!
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TsFreddie
maybe you are right, it never worked if you have more than one server in your favorite.
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:12
i thought it doesnt work as soon as a server list exists at all
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but anyway, i didnt use that since years
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and honestly i also don't miss it xd
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but anyway, i didnt use that since years
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:13
neither did anyone, it would be obviously bugged.
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:13
@TsFreddie now that you are motivated for ddnet content, are you an artist?
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@TsFreddie now that you are motivated for ddnet content, are you an artist?
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:13
define artist...
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meloƞ 2024-09-25 10:13
i saw the cards you made - you can call yourself artist @TsFreddie
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:14
Could you draw a email banner for ddnet accounts
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:14
HUH what card
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TsFreddie
HUH what card
meloƞ 2024-09-25 10:14
joker card
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:14
something so the email doesnt look like trash xd
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Could you draw a email banner for ddnet accounts
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:14
any specification other than it is just a banner
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or do you want a entire html thing
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any specification other than it is just a banner
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:14
account related
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:14
template i guess
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:15
If i'd be insanity i'd draw a sitting tee that eats a cookie where a profile image is on(on the cookie) https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/vector-flat-illustration-grayscale-avatar-600nw-2264922221.jpg
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MilkeeyCat 2024-09-25 10:15
make it in ddnet ui style santatrollet
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If i'd be insanity i'd draw a sitting tee that eats a cookie where a profile image is on(on the cookie) https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/vector-flat-illustration-grayscale-avatar-600nw-2264922221.jpg
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:15
sure why not
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i'm assuming it should be smaller in size or just svg?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:16
i dunno if email html supports svg
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but else, svg would be good ig
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:16
email clients doesn't usually show remote images
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:16
i am ok with embedding it
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as base64
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:16
so it should be really small i'm assuming
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:16
i dunno
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i guess game traffic is more of a problem than one email per account
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but if not, we can still remove that image again
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:16
you probably don't want a verification email to be massive traffically (which is why almost all verification email looks ugly)
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:17
honestly i think most ppl will only use steam login anyway
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Jupstar ✪
honestly i think most ppl will only use steam login anyway
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:17
that is true tho
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i'll try making it smaller then
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why am i accepting the fact that i'm just making it now?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:18
bcs you want to be called an artist?
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you basically define the word artist with that
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xd
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 10:18
not really. gamedev is a pretty big umbrella term that i'm happy with
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kek
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i did lost 65% of my creativity after quitting my job tho
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:25
https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/991062/b0df468b40b21f5d/
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Could you draw a email banner for ddnet accounts
Robyt3 2024-09-25 10:27
Aren't external images just going to be blocked in emails from us by default in other email programs?
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Aren't external images just going to be blocked in emails from us by default in other email programs?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:27
My 2 seconds of google showed that most email clients support embeeded images
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:28
yea, you can embed images
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:38
<ChillerDragon> @MilkeeyCat why didnt you just fix multiple lan servers with an onliner? duh https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/9039/files
Fix Leak IP check by TsFreddie · Pull Request #9039 · ddnet/ddnet
Fixes #9035 one liner fix.
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<ChillerDragon> xxxxxxxxD
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:39
dragon
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:39
<ChillerDragon> no but seriously reopen pr and wait for a maintainer to review it ._. @MilkeeyCat
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<ChillerDragon> josspit!
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:39
what did u want from me 4 days ago
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:39
<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ fng column names
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:39
what? xd
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in scoreboard?
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GitHub BOT 2024-09-25 10:39
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
18ff7f9 Fix Leak IP check - TsFreddie cc6d75d Merge pull request #9039 from TsFreddie/leakipfix - heinrich5991
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9039 Fix Leak IP check
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #9035 "Leak IP" maybe broken
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:39
<ChillerDragon> i already shipped to production but we can still nuke the database if u got nice input
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<ChillerDragon> u know in cring team based fng that nobody even likes
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<ChillerDragon> you can steal kill from team mates
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:40
ah nice
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:40
<ChillerDragon> team mates are the worst
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<ChillerDragon> teams were a mistake
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<ChillerDragon> bbut
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:40
i had a save server, i can give u access on github
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then u can read the mysql column names xd
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:40
<ChillerDragon> anyways i want to track the amount of kills you stole and the amount that got stolen from you. @Jupstar ✪ how to name the db columns?
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request reopened: #8992 Show 0.7 servers in LAN serverbrowser
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MilkeeyCat 2024-09-25 10:42
chillerdragon: did you add jump in your assembly client?
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<ChillerDragon> anyways i want to track the amount of kills you stole and the amount that got stolen from you. @Jupstar ✪ how to name the db columns?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:42
mhh hard to say
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:42
<ChillerDragon> not specifically but inputs work so jump should be ez lemme check
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:42
old fng always called it sacrifise, bcs openfng demanded that from the fng gods 😬
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:43
<ChillerDragon> @MilkeeyCat should be suuuper straightforward ye https://github.com/ChillerDragon/teeworlds-asmr/blob/1cd4b2e18cbbef8c34287ff23e7ab7ebf2bd4ed4/src/send_system.asm#L36
teeworlds-asmr/src/send_system.asm at 1cd4b2e18cbbef8c34287ff23e7ab...
teeworlds 0.7 client in x86 64 assembly wot? nasm asm asmr! - ChillerDragon/teeworlds-asmr
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:43
i removed all of this in fng2, so i guess you shouldn't call it steal
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but assist
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😏
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:43
<ChillerDragon> just add one more of those https://github.com/ChillerDragon/teeworlds-asmr/blob/1cd4b2e18cbbef8c34287ff23e7ab7ebf2bd4ed4/src/teeworlds_asmr.asm#L194-L197
teeworlds-asmr/src/teeworlds_asmr.asm at 1cd4b2e18cbbef8c34287ff23e...
teeworlds 0.7 client in x86 64 assembly wot? nasm asm asmr! - ChillerDragon/teeworlds-asmr
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:44
no i dunno chiller, i guess i'd just call it steals and stolen or smth
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and always snake case
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for column names
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:44
<ChillerDragon> yes i became lower snak case enjoyer like this year
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:44
and always CAPS for SQL syntax
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:44
<ChillerDragon> i still have legacy ass ddnet++ Camel_hybrid_CASE columns xd
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:44
xdd
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ddnet uses CamcelCase
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:44
<ChillerDragon> i lowercase my sql these days too when doing manual queries
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<ChillerDragon> but in code ye UP
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:45
use sleek for formatting
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sleek -n <path>
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https://crates.io/crates/sleek
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that is what i used for accounts
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:45
<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ i only used the word sacrafice once in the readme. But i do enjoy the whole spiritual vibe. Its just not in the code yet. Not sure if i ever add it.
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<ChillerDragon> i will keep it as steals. I called the columns stolen_by_others and stolen_from_others now. Its long ass but its obivous what it means which was important to me.
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:46
yeah
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:46
<ChillerDragon> @MilkeeyCat why u ask
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:46
that is the hardest thing in development anyway
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short names vs long perfect names
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:47
<ChillerDragon> @MilkeeyCat if you struggle with jumping make sure you also send jump 0 at some point not only jump 1. Otherwise you get stuck holding jump.
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:47
but stolen_from_others
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i dunno
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you steal
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you are active form
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MilkeeyCat 2024-09-25 10:47
chillerdragon: I was wondering if you did more stuff in da client
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:48
<ChillerDragon> ah no. no more commits since 1 month
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MilkeeyCat 2024-09-25 10:49
if i rewrite a little of the compiler i will be pretty close to sending a packet to a ddnet server
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:49
<ChillerDragon> i briefly thought about making it CI ready and contribute it to ddnet but then i was too lazy. It could be a nice low maintenance independent lightweight protocol compatibility checker in the CI if it supports proper signals and exit codes. Ideally even fifo support xd
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:52
please write that in a maintainable language instead
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MilkeeyCat 2024-09-25 10:52
xd
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:54
<ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 yea i knew there was some potential critism about that also one of the reasons why i didnt bother. The usual pr discussions. The idea would be that it does not require maintenance. Otherwise we can also just use a headless teeworlds client.
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<ChillerDragon> but everything that dynamically links requires maintenance. the assembly client is fully self contained and will run on any linux for decades without changing anything or any dependency.
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:55
there's already maintainable ddnet servers/clients in libtw2, for example
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if you want to add something to the CI
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likely to run for decades as well
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:55
<ChillerDragon> libtw2 has no readme
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:55
???
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:55
<ChillerDragon> the client i mean xd
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<ChillerDragon> rust breaks on a daily basis
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:55
what?
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:56
<ChillerDragon> compiling rust is quite unstable
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:56
libtw2 hasn't broken since the release of rust 1.0 (edited)
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:56
<ChillerDragon> it broke my pipeline already
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:56
elaborate
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<ChillerDragon> https://github.com/heinrich5991/libtw2/issues/87
huffman: python package fails on proc_macro_span_shrink in nigh...
dtolnay/proc-macro2#348 (comment) $ pip install libtw2-huffman --break-system-packages --no-cache Defaulting to user installation because normal site-packages is not writeable Collecting libtw2-huf...
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:56
that's python, not rust you're complaining about
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zhn 2024-09-25 10:56
xd
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ye libtw2 solid as rock
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:57
<ChillerDragon> its a rust compiler error
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:57
in the python package
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libtw2, the rust version has not broken since rust 1.0
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I stand by my point
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:57
<ChillerDragon> ok maybe i dont know
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:57
which is incidentally 9 years ago
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:57
<ChillerDragon> i can just tell you it broke my CI
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:57
yes, the python package
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:58
<ChillerDragon> what would you suggest serving binaries?
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<ChillerDragon> statically linked?
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<ChillerDragon> and download them in the CI?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:58
YES
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zhn 2024-09-25 10:58
not using nightly for example xd
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:58
I wasn't going to argue about python packages
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:58
<ChillerDragon> i am talking about the CI client
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zhn 2024-09-25 10:58
hey jupjop
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:59
<ChillerDragon> what flow do you suggest?
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:59
I just wanted to say that libtw2 would be a solid base for some CI checks in a sane maintainable language
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hey jupjop
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:59
hey gerdoe
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zhn 2024-09-25 10:59
hows it going
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 10:59
good & 4 u?
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zhn 2024-09-25 10:59
good as well
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:59
<ChillerDragon> i was suggesting 56K client that just runs i think thats pretty damn good
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:59
yea, I don't think that's a good idea
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 10:59
<ChillerDragon> just download and run it no dependencies
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 10:59
for maintainability
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 11:00
<ChillerDragon> how so?
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 11:00
because it's going to need some adjustments over time
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 11:00
<ChillerDragon> like what?
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good as well
zhn 2024-09-25 11:00
i though im about to skip very important lecture but came here an hour before xd
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 11:00
<ChillerDragon> if it tests backwards compatibility it doesnt need adjustments
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<ChillerDragon> if it doesnt break to launch it also doesnt need adjustments
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<ChillerDragon> and here comes my hottest take: assembly is easier than rust
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 11:01
ChillerDragon's got it all figured out, let's throw compilers out of the window
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<ChillerDragon> if it tests backwards compatibility it doesnt need adjustments
zhn 2024-09-25 11:01
wait but it needs
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MilkeeyCat 2024-09-25 11:01
you used bss as registers because it was hard to work with stack in assembly xd
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 11:01
<ChillerDragon> no but rly what adjustments @heinrich5991
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zhn 2024-09-25 11:01
if you add changes ur current code becomes old code
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 11:01
<ChillerDragon> pst @MilkeeyCat xd
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 11:02
you want to test more stuff, you want to test different stuff, you realize it has a bug
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 11:02
<ChillerDragon> i see
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<ChillerDragon> yea valid
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<ChillerDragon> in that case ez assembly edit or if you prefer libtw2 just delete the assembly client and replace it with libtw2 client then
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<ChillerDragon> it for sure has a bug btw xd
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MilkeeyCat 2024-09-25 11:03
leave a comment in main file like if something doesn't work email this person: *chiller's email* xd
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 11:03
<ChillerDragon> chillerdragon@gmail.com
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zhn 2024-09-25 11:03
lets throw all the tests then kekw
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 11:03
<ChillerDragon> ye sure as long as im around
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zhn 2024-09-25 11:03
whats wrong with ddnet headless
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 11:04
<ChillerDragon> ddnet headless is ddnet
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<ChillerDragon> so its fat
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<ChillerDragon> either its the version that was just built in the CI @zhn then its useless for a test that checks if old clients can still connect to the newly built server
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<ChillerDragon> or its a fat download that depends on libc stuff so it will have to be updated and maintained
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zhn 2024-09-25 11:05
ig u can download previous tagged client to test things
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but it just makes ci longer
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 11:05
depending on libc is no problem, it's backward compatible
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 11:05
<ChillerDragon> from ddnet.org maybe
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<ChillerDragon> well yea i have to admit ddnet 3.6 runs on debian 12 xd https://ddnet.org/downloads/#3.6
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 11:07
other libraries might be bigger problems
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ws-client BOT 2024-09-25 11:08
<ChillerDragon> yea i struggled hard with ddnet persian client
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<ChillerDragon> ok sure then the only selling point left is download speed and size
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 11:17
@Jupstar ✪ is the token base64
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vibe i have a weird nitpick that you can't double click to select a base64 string
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because the - _ and = justatest
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@Jupstar ✪ is the token base64
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:23
it is yes
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If i'd be insanity i'd draw a sitting tee that eats a cookie where a profile image is on(on the cookie) https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/vector-flat-illustration-grayscale-avatar-600nw-2264922221.jpg
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 11:23
btw tees don't have mouth.
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because the - _ and = justatest
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:23
yeah that sucks xd
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 11:23
HUH can we do a weird encoding that only uses alphanum
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btw tees don't have mouth.
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:24
They teleport the food into their stomache
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 11:24
since it is email so a copy to clipboard button is impossible i think
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since it is email so a copy to clipboard button is impossible i think
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:25
sadly
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the = can be removed by using the no-pad variants
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isnt there some html tag to say that it should copy the whole word as one
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 11:29
never heard of such thing hmm
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:29
well tripple click works for me
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but dunno if normal users do that xd
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 11:29
wait there is wtf
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user-select: all; css magic
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bruh
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thanks jupy
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:30
I need to try if that works for emails 😄
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 11:30
true
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Robyt3 2024-09-25 11:31
It should work in HTML emails, but do you want to include a plain text variant?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:31
not supported by gmail already
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Robyt3 2024-09-25 11:31
pepeW
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:31
Works with -webkit prefix
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xd
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mostly not supported tho
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https://docs.rs/base58check-encode/latest/base58check_encode/
base58check_encode - Rust
encode Vec objects into a Base58Check encoded String This crate is a direct port of the npm package noble-base58check Details here: https://github.com/pas1ko/noble-base58check/blob/master/base.ts
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 11:33
works in thunderbird kekw
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:33
lmao no decode
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 11:33
i think you can send both plain text and html somehow right?
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Robyt3 2024-09-25 11:33
Hex seems simpler though
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:34
yeah i can also use hex
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 11:34
lol
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lol
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:34
hot
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xd
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i still need ddnet's steam publisher key to test steam integration 😬
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i still need ddnet's steam publisher key to test steam integration 😬
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 11:36
like web api or?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:36
the session tickets seem like the easiest solution
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 11:36
is our steam implementation close sourced?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:36
just generate token, send to acc server. acc server gets steamid
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is our steam implementation close sourced?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:36
no
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 11:37
then you can get yourself a web api key and just build a client that uses the 480 appid
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i think
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InsaneCat borrow a key somehow is probably easier tho
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 11:38
i dont understand that
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but the publisher key is used on the server side
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 11:39
ah nvm, i thought steam provided publisher keys for 480
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:01
Did I just miss chiller making an argument to add his assembly client into ci for testing?
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HUH can we do a weird encoding that only uses alphanum
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:02
base56
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:03
base16 it is now
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hex
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:03
Or base58
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:03
the user doesnt care anyway.. it just has to look secure lol
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:04
Or honestly just an integer would also work, not like you need much length before it becomes impossible to guess anyway
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the user doesnt care anyway.. it just has to look secure lol
MilkeeyCat 2024-09-25 12:05
generate code using wordlist.txt kek
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:05
yeah but i like that everything is [u8; 32]
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i still need ddnet's steam publisher key to test steam integration 😬
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:05
Oh wow, you are at the steam stage?
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Oh wow, you are at the steam stage?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:05
no, steam is the only thing left xd
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well i wrote the integration for the server
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but to test it i need client integration + the publisher key to actually call the steam verify thing
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 12:07
(I tried DMing you a key, can you look if it has the correct format?)
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no, steam is the only thing left xd
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:07
Ah, well if you use encrypted application tickets instead of session tickets, I think you can verify those offline on the backend
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(I tried DMing you a key, can you look if it has the correct format?)
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:07
ah thanks, will test during the week
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Ah, well if you use encrypted application tickets instead of session tickets, I think you can verify those offline on the backend
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:08
i dunno all other steam stuff looks so much harder to use
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the session + web api verify, doesn't need any additional libs
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for the server
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but if you feel summoned to do that
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u are ofc free to do so
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:09
But in exchange we can't verify tickets without connecting to steam backend servers, hm
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Ah, well if you use encrypted application tickets instead of session tickets, I think you can verify those offline on the backend
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:09
that works like a cert or what?
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:09
So we either have to link the account server to steam sdk or use the backend
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that works like a cert or what?
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:10
Idk what sort of black magic they employ, but you get an encrypted ticket, you do steamapi::decrypt on it and it just works
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Idk what sort of black magic they employ, but you get an encrypted ticket, you do steamapi::decrypt on it and it just works
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:11
yeah nice
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if it actually does no call to any steam service
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that is probs better
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bcs it doesn't need a rate limit
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but anyway
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i'll start with the session stuff, since that is almost done
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:12
I have a question
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Will we automatically connect steam accounts or will it be manual?
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:13
gmail does not seem to like embedded svg
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Will we automatically connect steam accounts or will it be manual?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:13
Good question, in dd-pg currently there is simply a "Login with steam" button. But tbh that is a thing that can be changed easily
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so i dont want to think about such stuff now
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9040 Generated server_data.cpp/h mostly unused
We compile around 800 LOC on the server side that are mostly unused. This includes embedding the paths of all sounds and images as strings in the executable. AFAICT, only some weapon properties of the global data g_pData are used in https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/cc6d75d3926a20ef46c872cd004a6cb9be869ce6/src/game/server/entities/character.cpp on the server-side.
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Will we automatically connect steam accounts or will it be manual?
heinrich5991 2024-09-25 12:13
I vote for manual, but it can easily be changed, so whatever
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gmail does not seem to like embedded svg
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:14
arg
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gmail does not seem to like embedded svg
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:14
Mail html is such a PITA. It's so hard to get it to render correctly everywhere that serious professionals use paid tooling that just renders it on all clients
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:14
that sucks ofc
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:14
HUH
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 12:14
it seems like there are reimplementations of the steam encrypted app tickets
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https://github.com/DoctorMcKay/node-steam-appticket/blob/3ff347347a8d5e1e9908225a671a8972b9e5bef4/src/components/parseEncryptedAppTicket.ts#L15
node-steam-appticket/src/components/parseEncryptedAppTicket.ts at 3...
Node module to parse encrypted and unencrypted Steam app tickets - DoctorMcKay/node-steam-appticket
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so it's likely that it can be reimplemented somewhat easily
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(but focusing on something that works first makes a lot of sense)
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I vote for manual, but it can easily be changed, so whatever
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:15
Quick followup question: Do we allow just steam or just email or both on accounts?
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Quick followup question: Do we allow just steam or just email or both on accounts?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:15
you can link additional credentials to a single account, if that is your question
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 12:15
both, but same answer
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you can link additional credentials to a single account, if that is your question
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:18
I'm wondering if steam users have to bother with linking their emails
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I'm wondering if steam users have to bother with linking their emails
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:18
They don't need to do that
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but they can
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it seems like there are reimplementations of the steam encrypted app tickets
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:18
It seems to just be normal aes
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but they can
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:18
Cool
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:24
oh wow. gmail requires you to use remote images.
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justatest
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:24
tja
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I knew this is going to be an annoying topic xd
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oh wow. gmail requires you to use remote images.
heinrich5991 2024-09-25 12:25
wat
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can you use images from attachments?
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:25
https://www.emailonacid.com people use stuff like this to make sure
Kyle Lapaglia
Email on Acid - Email Pre-Deployment Checklist
Email on Acid is the leading email pre-deployment checklist and a configurable part of your email marketing workflow, from accessibility checks to email previews.
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:25
i'm not sure how you would display attachment images in a html body
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oh wow. gmail requires you to use remote images.
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:26
I guess that's fine, no?
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 12:26
I'd guess most clients block third-party images in emails by default
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:26
not gmail apparently
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 12:26
because it leaks your reading time and IP address
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:26
Also have you tried inline base64 images?
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Also have you tried inline base64 images?
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:27
that's what i meant. inline base64 does not work on gmail
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 12:27
(gmail proxies the images, so the IP address isn't leaked there)
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:27
https://www.caniemail.com/features/image-base64/ lol
Can I email… Base 64 image format
Supported in Apple Mail, Yahoo! Mail. Partially supported in Outlook. Not supported in Gmail.
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:28
let me try actual img tag tho, maybe gmail just doesn't like css inline images
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https://www.caniemail.com/features/image-base64/ lol
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:28
oh i don't need to try it then
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let me try actual img tag tho, maybe gmail just doesn't like css inline images
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:28
quick google confirmed that gmail doesnt support it tho
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but maybe that changed already
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:29
what if i include both inline and remote images with different styles justatest
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 12:29
https://stackoverflow.com/a/36870709/870079
Send a base64 image in HTML email
Using a rich-text editor, our users can drag and drop a saved image from their desktop to the editor. The image appears and displays properly in the web page after they submit. Since the image is ...
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apparently you can attach the image
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and then use src="cid:<image cid here>"
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:30
"Also, many clients, including the Gmail web interface, will append a copy of all attached images at the end of the message, which is very, very ugly"
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lol
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:30
that is pretty wild
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:30
is that still the case
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Why is this shit so hard
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Maybe i should just do some ugly ass text based email
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:31
Actually why don't we look at a mail from a srsbsns enterprise to see how they do it
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Jupstar ✪
"Also, many clients, including the Gmail web interface, will append a copy of all attached images at the end of the message, which is very, very ugly"
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:31
attachment already looks pretty ugly in most client really. and some people might wonder why some random images are attached
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attachment already looks pretty ugly in most client really. and some people might wonder why some random images are attached
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:31
I dislike that i'd need to code that manually mostly 😬
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base64 would be inline
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:31
i already run everything in premailer.io just to check. my original html just results in black and white text in gmail
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so what if we just use both remote url and inline. gmail sees the remote one. client sees the inline one. some weirdo can see both.
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so what if we just use both remote url and inline. gmail sees the remote one. client sees the inline one. some weirdo can see both.
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:33
xcDDD
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would be worth a try
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 12:33
two src attributes? (edited)
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:33
It's remote images in corpo emails
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heinrich5991
two src attributes? (edited)
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:33
just two images side by side
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two src attributes? (edited)
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:33
that would be an interesting try too
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:34
Yeah, pretty much every email I found with images uses just remote images. What is our issue with that anyway?
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That it won't get displayed properly on the 10 people old enough to still use a desktop mail client and play ddnet?
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:35
although blocked image on thunderbird is also ugly
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Learath2
That it won't get displayed properly on the 10 people old enough to still use a desktop mail client and play ddnet?
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:35
that's fair
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Learath2
That it won't get displayed properly on the 10 people old enough to still use a desktop mail client and play ddnet?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:35
if that are only a few ppl, i am totally ok with using external
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makes our emails smaller
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in the end the email is there to copy a token
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not to win a art contest
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jk
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we win art contest
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:36
Atleast that's what my opinion is on that. The blocked image is also not too bad, it's just a logo
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Atleast that's what my opinion is on that. The blocked image is also not too bad, it's just a logo
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:36
jupy wants a whole banner tho, i just haven't drawn one
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:37
Oor, someone remake the logo in css and html tables
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:37
but with a banner it's even better
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if the banner misses it still aligns normally
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Learath2
Oor, someone remake the logo in css and html tables
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:37
genius
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Learath2
Oor, someone remake the logo in css and html tables
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:37
shouldn't be that hard xd
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:38
i mean, tees are just circles. probably do able with a bunch of border-radius
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https://developers.google.com/gmail/design/css
CSS Support  |  Gmail  |  Google for Developers
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float border-radius margin* is probably enough to make a logo
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:39
Honestly as is it doesn't look too bad maybe we can get away with a purely css html banner, or no banner?
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Honestly as is it doesn't look too bad maybe we can get away with a purely css html banner, or no banner?
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:39
it works as-is without any art really
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amogus but i guess looking playful is kinda cool, not that i have anything better to do rn. if i didn't manage to get anything done before juppy ships it we can just use this.
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Honestly as is it doesn't look too bad maybe we can get away with a purely css html banner, or no banner?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:41
I thought it would maybe make it look more like game content
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with a banner
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Learath2 2024-09-25 12:41
I wonder how many mail clients support @media(prefers-color-scheme)
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 12:41
iirc u can embed svg in html
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 12:41
glad you asked: https://www.caniemail.com/features/css-at-media-prefers-color-scheme/
Can I email… @media (prefers-color-scheme)
Supported in Apple Mail. Partially supported in Outlook. Not supported in Gmail, Yahoo! Mail.
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 12:41
so use the svg logo
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Jupstar ✪
I thought it would maybe make it look more like game content
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:41
It would
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Ryozuki
iirc u can embed svg in html
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:42
gmail does not support svg
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 12:42
f*ck gmail!
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kek
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Ryozuki
iirc u can embed svg in html
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:42
We've been thru this 😛
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 12:42
just be oldschool and send plaintext
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:42
i am surprised that gmail misses lot of support. normally it's google that allows all the weird stuff nobody cares about xD
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 12:42
but the corpos are so smart they "downscore" ur email spam score if u dont have a html version
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just make the html a pre block kek
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and use a png to ascii tool
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i am surprised that gmail misses lot of support. normally it's google that allows all the weird stuff nobody cares about xD
TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:43
i assumed they wrote a parser specifically for gmail so it is just really small set of features (edited)
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glad you asked: https://www.caniemail.com/features/css-at-media-prefers-color-scheme/
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:43
Sadge. Would have been cool
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 12:43
and put ddnet logo as ascii art
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Jupstar ✪
i am surprised that gmail misses lot of support. normally it's google that allows all the weird stuff nobody cares about xD
Learath2 2024-09-25 12:44
They probably went backwards to make sure vulnerabilities aren't possible. So a whitelist of allowed stuff rather than a blacklist
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GitHub BOT 2024-09-25 12:44
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9041 Show skin name as tooltip in friendlist and serverinfo
Similarly to the Player tab ingame, you can hover your mouse over tees in the severinfo and friendslist to see the skin they're using.

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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 12:51
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i made a meme
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:52
real cpp chads would know that you cannot use tsan and asan at the same time
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 12:53
justatest
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i never said same time kek
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but thats bad
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in rust u have all at same time nameless_tee
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in rust u have all at same time nameless_tee
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:56
if i am very honest then i'd have to say the special thing is not about having compile time checks in rust. (not directly at least) It's just that pattern matching + enum structs + RAII lead to much clearer code paths. If u use rust like c, then it will probably only partially be nicer than using cpp 😬 (edited)
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in rust u have all at same time nameless_tee
heinrich5991 2024-09-25 12:57
actually, I think ubsan/tsan/asan isn't really available for rust, which means you can't have them when writing unsafe code
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there's miri, but it doesn't run your code in production AFAIK
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:58
RUSTFLAGS="-Z sanitizer=address" cargo run --target x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu TSAN_OPTIONS="ignore_noninstrumented_modules=1" RUSTFLAGS="-Z sanitizer=thread" cargo run --target x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
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my README never failed me
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i guess i once used asan on rust
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:59
epic fail
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lmao
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epic fail
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 12:59
LMAO YOU ARE NOT
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 12:59
catbite remote image it is i guess
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Ryozuki
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Teero 2024-09-25 12:59
ey i don't like this xD
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 13:00
imagine that worked
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would be so epic
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actually, I think ubsan/tsan/asan isn't really available for rust, which means you can't have them when writing unsafe code
Ryozuki 2024-09-25 13:01
wrong, asan and tsan can run on rust, since they are passes that work over llvm ir, which rust emits, ubsan yes but its ub specific to c
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miri would be the ubsan for rust, since all UB added to rust is tested first with miri to catch it
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 13:02
ah, cool: https://doc.rust-lang.org/beta/unstable-book/compiler-flags/sanitizer.html#addresssanitizer
sanitizer - The Rust Unstable Book
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 13:02
but miri is quite limited on external calls
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btw a good way to test unsafe stuff is -randomize layout option
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 13:03
i should
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 13:03
RUSTFLAGS="-Zrandomize-layout"
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 13:03
well actually pretty much all unsafe code i have are the vk calls xd
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 13:04
https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/77316
Add -Zrandomize-layout flag to better detect code that rely on un...
In order to better detect code that rely on unspecified behavior related to memory layout, it could be useful to have a -Zrandomize-layout flag that add some padding bytes at the start of all #[rep...
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The randomize layout flag randomizes/shuffles/otherwise makes unpredictable the layout of repr(Rust) types, which do not have a specified layout. This is to aid in debugging programs, detecting undefined behavior and running crater experiments. This does not affect any types with specified layouts, such as #[repr(C)] or #[repr(transparent)] types. This is strictly an opt-in flag and will not affect current stable code unless the end user explicitly uses the -Z randomize-layout flag with a nightly compiler.
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 13:05
what i'd find interesting is if i could randomly trigger errors in tests to make sure that my error handling doesn't result in panics or dead locking or similar stuff
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what i'd find interesting is if i could randomly trigger errors in tests to make sure that my error handling doesn't result in panics or dead locking or similar stuff
Ryozuki 2024-09-25 13:13
proptest crate, fuzzing, there is also another crate i forgor
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 13:14
are they easy to use? xd
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 13:14
https://lib.rs/crates/fail
Fail — Rust testing library
Fail points for rust
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 13:14
i need retard safe libs
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lib.rs is so ugly xd
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 13:14
xd
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 13:15
but yeah is cool
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if that works easily
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well maybe
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additional changes to the codebase also sucks xd
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 13:15
https://lib.rs/crates/cargo-careful
cargo-careful — Cargo add-on
Execute Rust code carefully, with extra checking along the way
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@Jupstar ✪ this is a cargo run replacement
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 13:26
wtf it's 9pm
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forgot to eat
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 13:27
forgot ten cat
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TsFreddie
wtf it's 9pm
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 13:28
if u want to send me the mail later i can test how it looks (even if unfinished) 😄
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 13:28
maybe tomorrow
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TsFreddie
would be so epic
Learath2 2024-09-25 13:29
Would be even less likely to render the same on everything. There is a reason everyone and their mothers are still using tables 😄
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 13:29
also just learned that you literally cannot use div to layout your email
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HUH
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Learath2 2024-09-25 13:32
@Jupstar ✪ btw now that you are back, I have a question for you. Do you know if we intentionally don't support 1:1 resolutions without grey bars?
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памперс в кружевних 2024-09-25 13:32
My RUS servers have disappeared, what should I do?
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 13:32
my phone breaks with div
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@Jupstar ✪ btw now that you are back, I have a question for you. Do you know if we intentionally don't support 1:1 resolutions without grey bars?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 13:32
yes, the UI breaks
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I asked robyte if we should just not care
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he said he doesnt like it
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best is you discuss it with him
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Learath2 2024-09-25 13:33
Ok. There was a player actually using 1080x1080 asking me 😄
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 13:33
1:1 has a certain pvp advantage
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HUH
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i've been using 5:4 when i was still playing fng
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 13:34
back then we all had 5:4
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but now we all rich and have 16:9
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 13:34
wasn't it 4:3
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 13:34
uff
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true
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 13:34
5:4 is square-er
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TsFreddie 2024-09-25 14:00
sketched. also changed back to light theme. cuz most emails are white probably for good reasons
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meloƞ 2024-09-25 14:40
the sketch on the top right
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peak artist performance
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kawada 2024-09-25 14:43
anyone can tell how install ddnet server on ubuntu?
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 14:43
@Learath2 if 0 and 1 are certain then they cant be considered probabilities right? probabilities lie within the range from 0 to 1 excluded
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MilkeeyCat 2024-09-25 14:43
@Learath2 hey, I have one more question regarding Sethi-Ullman algorithm, do I have handle division expression uniquely, because amd64 doesn't have idiv instruction with immediate as operand
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@Learath2 if 0 and 1 are certain then they cant be considered probabilities right? probabilities lie within the range from 0 to 1 excluded
Learath2 2024-09-25 14:46
0 and 1 are most definitely allowed in the definition of a probability function I know. e.g. the event of a tossed coin hitting the ground has 1 probability within the event space since it's the only outcome in the sample space
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 14:47
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kawada
anyone can tell how install ddnet server on ubuntu?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 14:48
u can self compile, or use the one from https://ddnet.org/downloads
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if u use the one from your ubuntu repo, that is probs pretty outdated
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Learath2 2024-09-25 14:48
0 I don't remember why we include though. A probability space is defined in terms of a sample space, an event space and a probability function. The sample space by definition only contains the outcomes, which are iirc defined as all the POSSIBLE results
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 14:49
https://www.reddit.com/r/badmathematics/comments/127vquu/eliezer_yudkowsky_0_and_1_are_not_probabilities/
From the badmathematics community on Reddit: Eliezer Yudkowsky: 0 A...
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i saw this on twitter
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0 I don't remember why we include though. A probability space is defined in terms of a sample space, an event space and a probability function. The sample space by definition only contains the outcomes, which are iirc defined as all the POSSIBLE results
heinrich5991 2024-09-25 14:49
it's useful since you don't need to change the sample space if some event becomes impossible
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like you also don't have to hit everything in the image space of a function
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Ryozuki 2024-09-25 14:51
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry%E2%80%93Howard_correspondence
Curry–Howard correspondence
In programming language theory and proof theory, the Curry–Howard correspondence is the direct relationship between computer programs and mathematical proofs. It is also known as the Curry–Howard isomorphism or equivalence, or the proofs-as-programs and propositions- or formulae-as-types interpretation. It is a generalization of a syntactic ana...
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murpi 2024-09-25 14:52
@Jupstar ✪ What does @SkinDB do if someone from the db crew approves a skin that shares a name with an existing one?
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@Jupstar ✪ What does @SkinDB do if someone from the db crew approves a skin that shares a name with an existing one?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 14:53
it doesn't know about existing skins
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murpi 2024-09-25 14:53
Ok, I see
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Do we have this in JSON format? https://skins.ddnet.org/skin/community/
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-09-25 14:56
https://skins.ddnet.org/skin/skins.json
👍 1
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but actually i have to improve that json before it's used, but i'd need to change php code
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yeah dunno, guess u can just use it xd
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0 I don't remember why we include though. A probability space is defined in terms of a sample space, an event space and a probability function. The sample space by definition only contains the outcomes, which are iirc defined as all the POSSIBLE results
louis 2024-09-25 14:58
the probability of a single valued event on a continuous function is usually 0
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@Learath2 hey, I have one more question regarding Sethi-Ullman algorithm, do I have handle division expression uniquely, because amd64 doesn't have idiv instruction with immediate as operand
Learath2 2024-09-25 15:02
Hm, why? I don't think the algorithm relies on immediate operations being available. Imagine just 3 / 5. Algorithm suggests 1 register is enough, which it is, you store one result
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Learath2 2024-09-25 15:12
Ah, I can see the confusion. Most definitely my fault, constant lhs leaves are not 0 because immediate operations exist. They are 0 because the constants are from memory (atleast back in those days, immediates are also technically from memory, just that they are embedded within the instruction)
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You really should have just implemented normal spilling and called it a day. I wanted to make it optimal but sent you into a rabbit-hole
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MilkeeyCat 2024-09-25 15:14
Ill google stuff next time xd
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Learath2 2024-09-25 15:14
To be fair to me, I told you spilling is the naive way to do this
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The naive way out of it is to get stack scratch space. If no registers left, allocate on the stack
Learath2 2024-09-25 15:14
Right about here
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GitHub BOT 2024-09-25 16:24
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9042 Make cl_show_direction change alpha with cl_show_others_alpha
Previously with cl_show_others_alpha 20: !old Updated: !new

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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
36c3656 Make cl_show_direction change alpha with cl_show_others_alpha - bencie f614277 Merge pull request #9042 from bencie/showothers-direction-alpha - heinrich5991
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9042 Make cl_show_direction change alpha with cl_show_others_alpha
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Ah, I can see the confusion. Most definitely my fault, constant lhs leaves are not 0 because immediate operations exist. They are 0 because the constants are from memory (atleast back in those days, immediates are also technically from memory, just that they are embedded within the instruction)
MilkeeyCat 2024-09-25 17:09
if there was a variable on lhs, would it be 0 or 1?
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if there was a variable on lhs, would it be 0 or 1?
Learath2 2024-09-25 17:09
1, non-constant left childs get a 1
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Hm, why? I don't think the algorithm relies on immediate operations being available. Imagine just 3 / 5. Algorithm suggests 1 register is enough, which it is, you store one result
MilkeeyCat 2024-09-25 17:20
since an operation such as add R1, A can handle the right component A directly without storing it into a register
I thought that was about add r/m64, imm32 in amd64 for example
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MilkeeyCat 2024-09-25 18:22
after drinking some tea i think they are talking about add r/m64, imm32 AND add r64 r/m64 xd
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heinrich5991 2024-09-25 19:10
everyone come join the BOMB server
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25 ppl playing right now 🙂
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jxsl13 2024-09-25 19:10
the Pager server
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._.
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Ewan 2024-09-25 19:11
yea
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im already there 😎
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AFK god
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♥ Yumie GER - Bombtag with weapons! Address: ddnet://64.225.97.84:8303 My IGN: Ewan
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DDNet BOT 2024-09-25 19:11
64.225.97.84:8303 is not a DDraceNetwork or Community server.
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Ewan 2024-09-25 19:12
but this has actually brought to my attention the fact that we have no inactive volume modifier
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many games will quiet or silence themselves when not focused
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maybe necessary for ddnet
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and we can except pings from that for example
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maybe necessary for ddnet
zaerin 2024-09-25 19:22
Please 🙏
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Patiga 2024-09-25 19:23
My Blender Add-on with which you can import Teeworlds/DDNet maps into Blender was approved today! https://extensions.blender.org/add-ons/twformats/ This means you can easily download this Add-on directly from within blender: Edit > Preferences > Get Extensions > Search for "DDNet" Code repository: https://gitlab.com/ddnet-rs/twblender Three videos I already made with this Add-on: Water Simulation, Experimental Map Intro, Miner Envelopes
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jxsl13 2024-09-25 19:25
sick
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furo BOT 2024-09-25 19:42
We have snd_nonactive_mute.
Replying to @Ewan but this has actually brought to my attention the fact that we have no i…
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Ewan 2024-09-25 20:09
is that a Boolean
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furo BOT 2024-09-25 20:15
Yes
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Patiga
My Blender Add-on with which you can import Teeworlds/DDNet maps into Blender was approved today! https://extensions.blender.org/add-ons/twformats/ This means you can easily download this Add-on directly from within blender: Edit > Preferences > Get Extensions > Search for "DDNet" Code repository: https://gitlab.com/ddnet-rs/twblender Three videos I already made with this Add-on: Water Simulation, Experimental Map Intro, Miner Envelopes
Teero 2024-09-25 20:37
^pin! (edited)
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Ewan
but this has actually brought to my attention the fact that we have no inactive volume modifier
Teero 2024-09-25 20:39
what is this?
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Ewan 2024-09-25 20:45
yea i didnt catch it initially
20:45
nice that it exists for sure
20:45
but i think maybe a slider & extra toggle for ping sfx bypass would be worth
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GitHub BOT 2024-09-25 21:54
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9043 Don't reset zoom on team switch
The code isn't needed any more as the zoom is always reset on render on mods that don't allow zoom. https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/9004790b-ddb3-45eb-87c8-78cfa48c3f1b

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  • [x] Tested the change ingame
  • [ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bo...
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Teero
what is this?
Peakies 2024-09-25 22:29
when you're alt tab or don't know not focusing on DDNet game on your computer it's prevent playing sounds or something
22:29
well it's just set volume to zero
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Peakies
when you're alt tab or don't know not focusing on DDNet game on your computer it's prevent playing sounds or something
Teero 2024-09-25 22:30
I was responding to Ewan saying that that functionality doesn't exist. mb if it sounded like a question
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Peakies 2024-09-25 22:31
oh ops I just saw your text and screenshot didn't read anything else 😄
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