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Between 2024-09-24 00:00 and 2024-09-25 00:00
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-09-24 00:53
He takes a break from ddnet to focus on his full time rust career
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I'm tired of this game, and I'm tired of having to be tied within development with this game. The community sucks, the developers are complete snobs, and no good update has been released fo...
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the latest released map Cryptic says designed by Voxel
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oh lmao i didnt know this existed
01:26
@jxsl13 yes cryptic was submitted a long while ago and had the voxel design
01:26
i guess it got resubmitted w the original design
01:27
thought he's active again
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@louis i thinked you created linear xD
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jxsl13
thought he's active again
The map is already rly old
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Voxel was online recently but they don't seem to be very interested in returning
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he joined multiple community servers
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Imagine being a 3D object in a 2D game. Voxel was never meant to be here feelsbadman
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jxsl13
Imagine being a 3D object in a 2D game. Voxel was never meant to be here feelsbadman
it's a 3d game 😠
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lies
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bencie
he joined multiple community servers
yea they said they were quitting but then kept stalking occasionally and they are atleast slightly more active lmao
11:23
you can never truly leave ddnet...
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Welf
it's a 3d game 😠
Koll Potato 2024-09-24 11:48
nice balls
11:48
but replace the sun with a banana and moon with a monkey
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Koll Potato 2024-09-24 11:48
hehe
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actually i used 2 suns for that animation :>
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Koll Potato 2024-09-24 11:49
2 bananas then!
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a monkey circling around bananas?
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jxsl13
lies
nope 100% 3d
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Cammodude
nope 100% 3d
repeating lies does not make them true.
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jxsl13
repeating lies does not make them true.
is Stardew Valley a 3d game ?
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how about doom 1993
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I think that one is
12:21
if it's the one I think it is
12:21
the environment
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okay, is Minecraft 3d
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not the enemies
12:21
minecraft is 3d
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doom has staircases, which adds height, which means it's 3d
12:23
agree ?
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like I said. the environment is 3d, the enemies are 2d sprites iirc
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2d sprites that have the ability to move in 3d
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so is Stardew valley 3d too
12:24
since it's 2d sprites moving in 3d
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kinda doubt it
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there's staircases and height
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they move in 2d
12:24
there is no real height
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yeah but you can move up too
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nope
12:24
it's an isometric view
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so what you're saying is that it's just a 2d world projected at a weird angle
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you can only move in 2d, stairs are an illusion
12:25
they are stairs and it looks like it's height but it's not really height
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ok but doom is also based on a 2d top down world that renders at a weird angle
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take the old pokemon games for example
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so is doom 2d then ?
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ok, then it's not the doom I thought it was. The one Ibwas thinking of was the ego perspective, not topdown
12:26
topdown is 2d
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doom 1993 renders from a first person view
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then there is no topdown
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but all the graphics and stuff are based on a 2d top down map
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I don't quite understand what you wanna tell me, mind elaborating
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doom 1993, a game in a first person pov, uses a 2d top down map behind the scenes and just does complex math to add height onto objects
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stairs are just an illusion as you can just view them as a one way door in 2d
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jxsl13
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thats what im talking about
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"just complex math"
12:30
well, that's what probably makes it 3d
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so doom is 2d with illusions and math to make it 3d
12:30
why cant stardew valley be the same then ?
12:31
illusions and math to make it look 3d
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it's not illusions, it's trickery for low end hardware but the look is still 3d
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doesnt illusions = trickery
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kind of yes
12:31
the final look is still 3d
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so youve argued against yourself
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in what way?
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2d with trickery can be considered 3d
12:32
thats your statement right ?
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my statement is that stardew valles is still not 3d
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yeah
12:33
2d with trickery
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valley*
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agreed ?
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it is
12:34
but still not 3d
12:34
2d with trickery does not imply 3d
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ah okay doom is 2d then
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it gives the illusion of height
12:35
on a flat surface
12:35
but it's still 2d
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MilkeeyCat 2024-09-24 12:35
it's #mapping btw
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we coming from a map topic
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Welf
it's a 3d game 😠
so i can say that its 2d with tricks to make it look like 3d
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os tw 3d
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MilkeeyCat
it's #mapping btw
i just took a long time to get to my point
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the background gives the illution of depth
12:36
that is indeed true
12:36
still not 3d
12:37
illusion*
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i think most modern game engines use the same kind of math that doom 1993 uses to look 3d
12:37
which makes most modern games also illusions
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I think the math might somewhat be irrelevant. (edited)
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how else can you tell your gpu to render a 3d pole if not math
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if the while game is simulated in a 3d world
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while
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and you just project onto a 2d viewport
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then doom is not 3d
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whole
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okay
12:40
every game is technically 2d
12:40
since your screen is 2d and it just uses math to render depth
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you can argue in that direction as well
12:41
I'm coming from the: what you see on the screen.
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Cammodude
every game is technically 2d
No, it may viewed as 2d (edited)
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it's probably hard to argue from an estheric point of view
12:41
stardew is 2d, doom is 3d
12:42
isometric is also 2d, at least stardew and for example the old baldur's gate games
12:42
but there is for example baldur's gate 3 which is isometric but also 3d
12:43
primarily isometric with a free camera, tho
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Pokemon emerald is 2d
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stardew is 2d
12:53
if u dont have to code in a z coordinate ur game is 2d (edited)
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is Doom then also 2d?
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does it have a third dimension programatically? (edited)
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idk prolly
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I'd say there is a distinction between using (math & code) trickery to get a 3d effect in Doom and using trickery (background image with stairs) in order to create a height difference between two ground levels in stardew valley. (edited)
12:58
the second is imo not intended to make the game be 3d.
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yeah that's what i agree with
12:59
some games are in the middle where they have 3d models bht ultimately play on a 2d plane
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Bloons td 6 for example
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yay monke gameowo
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AssassinTee 2024-09-24 14:42
in the old doom you can't even aim vertically, you "hit" an enemy even if it appears to be higher than you. It's a 2D game with simulated 3D rendering, but the physics are 2D.
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ddnet is actually 3d, it's just that the camera is pointing orthogonally troll_doughey
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actually it's 4d since each map is its own dimension (that's why there was that server bug when tees could shift dimensions and access entities from previously voted maps) (edited)
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♂S1mple♂ 2024-09-24 15:48
when ddnet lore
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louis
actually it's 4d since each map is its own dimension (that's why there was that server bug when tees could shift dimensions and access entities from previously voted maps) (edited)
the fourth dimension isn't the concept of dimensions - it's the concept of time what you're referring to is a multidimensional space-time continuum (ever played glitchhold???) (edited)
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ermm the fourth dimension is the concept of time ☝🤓
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♂S1mple♂
when ddnet lore
strong hook, weak hook -> strong force, weak force justatest
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meloƞ
the fourth dimension isn't the concept of dimensions - it's the concept of time what you're referring to is a multidimensional space-time continuum (ever played glitchhold???) (edited)
Ackshully, more accurately our universe is understood to have 3 spatial dimensions and a time dimension making up the 4 dimensions. So saying teeworlds has a 4th dimension isn't exactly wrong as the speaker can be inferred to be referring to spatial dimensions Nerdge
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Welf
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LOL
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Im 'corneum 2024-09-24 19:22
You are all losers
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Im 'corneum
You are all losers
Saying guy who created loved dummy maps
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Im 'corneum
You are all losers
no u
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Im 'corneum
You are all losers
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