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perfection

should say C

Ryozuki

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there is merit to this

01:03

even if it’s a meme

01:04

it’s only one of the most mature documented languages ever…

day 2 how can I find hammer's hitbox or range implementation in source? i've been digging it for 2 or 3 hours but can't seem to find anything related, someone also been posting here hitbox skins but that not a thing I want to make (toggle) can they be stored in some local files?

first

01:47

server or client code

client

01:47

just a range I can use in all servers and draw it on toggle

01:49

I also mean not the server's exact range, but the ones used in ddnet, kog etc. doesnt matter if server has another hitboxes, I need only default ones used in popular servers (edited)

01:49

I think ddnet and similar use default value?

I haven't looked at client code at all, but my guess is that you will at most have prediction code on the client side that emulates the server's behavior, because the server should(tm) tell the client when it's actually a hit.

01:51

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/src/game/server/entities/character.cpp#L478

01:51

might be this here

jxsl13

I haven't looked at client code at all, but my guess is that you will at most have prediction code on the client side that emulates the server's behavior, because the server should(tm) tell the client when it's actually a hit.

quite don't get it, I'll look up but I dont understand the assumption

the server is the truth

can I get the hammer range hitbox without using direct reference to it?

a client just executes what the server tells it to do (edited)

01:54

what do you mean by "direct reference"?

01:54

client side prediction: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/src/game/client/prediction/entities/character.cpp#L308

01:55

gotta find out what m_ProximityRadius is set to

01:55

and then *0.5

yea I bumped up into it

might be a static value

the only thing I could think of is m_ProximityRadius * 0.5f but thats pretty implicit

01:56

I have this thing rn

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the interesting part is that the code says radius, so it's a circle and not a box that you want. (edited)

01:57

that is the radius around your tee

01:57

ProjStartPos probably the character's center

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01:58

= center of your tee

jxsl13

the interesting part is that the code says radius, so it's a circle and not a box that you want. (edited)

p much I dont care whatever it is, I just need the exact values that I can do something with (edited)

01:59

I also think I should look at hook collision

guess that depends on where your code modifications are (edited)

so I have the main idea of it's working

and how to access those character values from the location where you do your modifications

02:00

what cpp file you currently modifying?

menus_settings.cpp with a help of tater client source I got the main idea how to create menu and save custom configs

void CMenus::RenderSettingsHitbox(CUIRect MainView)
{
    CUIRect Column, Section;
    const float LineMargin = 20.0f;

    MainView.VSplitLeft(MainView.w * 0.5, &MainView, &Column);

    MainView.HSplitTop(30.0f, &Section, &MainView);
    Ui()->DoLabel(&Section, ("Hitbox"), 20.0f, TEXTALIGN_LEFT);
    MainView.VSplitLeft(5.0f, 0x0, &MainView);
    MainView.HSplitTop(5.0f, 0x0, &MainView);

    DoButton_CheckBoxAutoVMarginAndSet(&g_Config.m_ClHammerHitbox, ("Hammer"), &g_Config.m_ClHammerHitbox, &MainView, LineMargin);
    DoButton_CheckBoxAutoVMarginAndSet(&g_Config.m_ClHookHitbox, ("Hook"), &g_Config.m_ClHookHitbox, &MainView, LineMargin);
    DoButton_CheckBoxAutoVMarginAndSet(&g_Config.m_ClTeeHitbox, ("Tee"), &g_Config.m_ClTeeHitbox, &MainView, LineMargin);
    {
        CUIRect Button, Label;
        MainView.HSplitTop(20.0f, &Button, &MainView);
        Button.VSplitLeft(140.0f, &Label, &Button);
    }
    {
        CUIRect Button, Label;
        MainView.HSplitTop(20.0f, &Button, &MainView);
        Button.VSplitLeft(140.0f, &Label, &Button);
    }
    {
        CUIRect Button, Label;
        MainView.HSplitTop(20.0f, &Button, &MainView);
        Button.VSplitLeft(140.0f, &Label, &Button);
    }
}

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02:02

but the functions of course are located in other files

02:02

and I'm trying to find out things

if you want static values, add a debug_msg in the client code that I pointed you too and see how that value behaves when you hit other player on some server

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02:03

if it's static (I'd guess), you can just hardcode those values in your settings rendering (edited)

02:05

entity.h
/*
        Variable: m_ProximityRadius
            Contains the physical size of the entity.
    */
    float m_ProximityRadius;

02:06

cuz character is inheriting from entity, it's probably the size of the character, but let me dig a littl ebit

02:07

initialized here: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/b34edb64c0a20373214bdc28d666ba445f43263d/src/game/server/entities/character.cpp#L27C61-L28C2

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02:07

with a static class value

ok thanks, I'll figure it out and get back if anything works out

you can simply use the static ~~variable~~ function CCharacterCore::PhysicalSize() (edited)

02:10

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/b34edb64c0a20373214bdc28d666ba445f43263d/src/game/gamecore.h#L181

02:10

it's 28.0f

02:10

but I'd use the static value

02:10

as is used everywhere throughout the code

02:11

CCharacterCore::PhysicalSize()

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meloƞ

yup - i have windows for solidworks and cubase (and some games i cba to download twice kekw

kekw

)

just reread this. super based cubase

cubased perhaps

meloƞ

yup - i have windows for solidworks and cubase (and some games i cba to download twice kekw

kekw

)

WTF man

05:12

make an NTFS partition and put your games on there

05:12

or btrfs + winbtrfs if you’re feeling risky

05:12

then u can have all games only one time

<ChillerDragon> github display bug? wot

06:42

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1726900883.png

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weird

where is the bug

Tater

where is the bug

There's no tab in IsStatTrack return line?

oh true

Also, syntax highlighting didn't work for me on GitHub for a last week

someone can say me where is this '2024-09-21 10:49:21 I' in ddnet client source? i want delete it.

Why would you expect to find a random time & date in the ddnet source

07:57

What is the issue you’re facing

Maybe it's log time thonk

thonk

<ChillerDragon> @3x1sT https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/b34edb64c0a20373214bdc28d666ba445f43263d/src/base/log.cpp#L101

ddnet/src/base/log.cpp at b34edb64c0a20373214bdc28d666ba445f43263d ...

DDraceNetwork, a free cooperative platformer game. Contribute to ddnet/ddnet development by creating an account on GitHub.

08:55

<ChillerDragon> Msg.m_aTimestamp[0] = 0; to delete it

08:56

<ChillerDragon> if you care about the I part thats here

08:56

<ChillerDragon> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/b34edb64c0a20373214bdc28d666ba445f43263d/src/base/log.cpp#L107

ddnet/src/base/log.cpp at b34edb64c0a20373214bdc28d666ba445f43263d ...

DDraceNetwork, a free cooperative platformer game. Contribute to ddnet/ddnet development by creating an account on GitHub.

08:56

<ChillerDragon> you can change "EWIDT"[level] to "" and its gone

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/b34edb64c0a20373214bdc28d666ba445f43263d/src/base/log.cpp#L107

thanks

variables operators and statements in config files when

never

sadge

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11:54

is this allowed

why no

@manikoo because it looks like a official server. Its basically impersonation. And might cause confusion for the players that did not get their ranks saved.

as i know official servers have a mark

12:03

but ok

12:03

i got u

yes and this one doesn't but not every Linear enjoyer might understand that xd

greenthing

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cyberfighter 2

is this allowed

no, it's not

banhammer

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<ChillerDragon> banhammer

banhammer

12:06

<ChillerDragon> i mean the master is ddnet controlled it could just do a string substitution for fakes :D and prefix it with [UNOFFICIAL]

12:06

<ChillerDragon> automatic one ofc

<ChillerDragon> any1 wants to write me some code? xd

12:14

<ChillerDragon> i need to count the amount of different ips connected to the server

print(len(ip_list)) np

<ChillerDragon> thank

12:39

<ChillerDragon> if it was a high level scripting language i would probably use hash maps but i dont wanna use them in C++ somehow. And my naive idea would be a nested for loop.

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> if it was a high level scripting language i would probably use hash maps but i dont wanna use them in C++ somehow. And my naive idea would be a nested for loop.

? Why

<ChillerDragon> wat why

Unordered map is good enough

<ChillerDragon> ye is it?

why not lmao

<ChillerDragon> its C++

Yes

12:40

?

<ChillerDragon> I prefer not using the evil ::

C++ is high level

<ChillerDragon> yea i guess

12:41

<ChillerDragon> next up ill be using std::string

лоюяож\

<ChillerDragon> woah std::map is uses all over ddnet codebase

12:42

<ChillerDragon> or is undorder map something else?

12:43

<ChillerDragon> oh there is also std::unordered_map

unorderer_map faster then map, but map has some constraints that i don't remember

std::unordered_map<std::string, int> map;
for(auto &Player : vPlayers)
                map[Player.m_IP] = 1;
printf("%zu", map.size());

unordered map is a hashmap, map is a red-black tree

Coding on phone is trash

12:49

Here's your pseudocode

teero really write it on phone

12:49

gigachad

you'd probably use an unordered_set for that

true i forgot (edited)

cyberfighter 2

is this allowed

no, report their ip to heinrich

<ChillerDragon> yea i rly dont wanna do C++ so i went with the for loop xd

avoiding stdlib

<ChillerDragon> yea

Anime.pdf

no, report their ip to heinrich

ok

<ChillerDragon> C++ makes me nervous

13:19

<ChillerDragon> I never know how fast it is. How and where it allocates memory.

13:20

<ChillerDragon> And the syntax is really ugly. And also its so much harder to read and write because its more complex than C.

13:20

<ChillerDragon> Also its infectious. Once you add C++ it depends on further C++ to work.

cyberfighter 2

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@heinrich5991 id like to report the server 45.90.218.105:8303 for faking official ddnet servers as you can see in this screenshot

45.90.218.105:8303 is not a DDraceNetwork or Community server.

did you just delete your message

it is indeed ugly but you can try to not make it ugly

<ChillerDragon> me?

Yes

13:21

can webhooks do that?

<ChillerDragon> i am on irc there is no delete

Uh oh

<ChillerDragon> it was deleted by heinrich because it was an insult

<ChillerDragon> looks like there is a aimbotter on 176.9.114.238:8220 name: ChillerDragon

13:59

<ChillerDragon> @fngmods

xd sure chillerbot.png is lyfe

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<ChillerDragon> ok nvm the kick vote passed

14:01

<ChillerDragon> crazy that it took multiple tries on such obvious aimbot for a top scorer with the clantag BOT xd

[rus4] -ChillerDragon- has left the game (You have been banned for 3000 minutes (version 20000))

14:03

think_bot

<ChillerDragon> i mean there are 70 servers this boi is just traveling xd

14:09

<ChillerDragon> lmao two botters stealing each others kills. Do the ddnet fng servers have no antibot? Last time i saw such shameless botting was 10 years ago on BlmapV3 xd

14:10

<ChillerDragon> i understand why the kick votes are not passing. Its because there are more botters than non botters xd

How does the Exclude work in the Server List. Is it a Regex? (edited)

14:48

Because I'd like several words

<ChillerDragon> so semicolon ; to split words

14:53

<ChillerDragon> use*

thx

chillerdragon: i finally got all of the bitwise operators needed to implement packer xd

MilkeeyCat

chillerdragon: i finally got all of the bitwise operators needed to implement packer xd

poggers2

15:48

can't wait for your language to his v0.0.1 stage

there won't be v0.0.1, first true version has to be v69.42.0

15:50

also i updated the banner for repo

tru tru tru

https://github.com/MilkeeyCat/meraki

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15:52

@Learath2 also cast expressions were pain in the ass, so now it's as keyword xd

15:52

basically everything is yoinked from rust

basically rust with a tinge of C and incomplete

it would be so cool to add macros and imports

Use the C preprocessor, much easier to yoink someone elses work

that's easy way

15:56

we don't choose those

Can I make a grammar readme pr

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> I never know how fast it is. How and where it allocates memory.

kek

16:10

i don't really think you need to know this in terms of ddnet development

zhn

i don't really think you need to know this in terms of ddnet development

i'd say its decently important to know how c++ handles memory when coding anything in it oop

oop

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meloƞ

i'd say its decently important to know how c++ handles memory when coding anything in it oop

oop

yeah but if you are writing cpp then you know how cpp works

you can write functional programs without using a single pointer

yeah, don't use ranges though

meloƞ

i'd say its decently important to know how c++ handles memory when coding anything in it oop

oop

i mean its basic thing to know, if you want to write c, don't use cpp

16:14

and vice versa

yeah i get that

streams are the thing that draws me too c++ instead of c

16:16

on everything else I would prefer c

16:17

Handling files is so much easier with streams

im missing templates and generics on c so much

16:17

the only reason to use ccp instead id say

16:17

cpp

use macros xd

16:18

/s

zhn

im missing templates and generics on c so much

yeah i can tell you like your templates....

16:18

cries in having to understand 300 boilerplate functions reading your code

16:18

no hate tho - love you!

u would have to read 3000 otherwise

OHNOOOO

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16:19

also i just reimplemented existing json wrapper so its useless actually

zhn

also i just reimplemented existing json wrapper so its useless actually

NotLikeKogasa

mamma mia

we saw that troll

troll

btw nlohmanns implementation is quite faster afair

16:20

but it would compile for a day justatest

justatest

i planned on using nlohmanns json iirc

do not take static initialization & automatic de/serialization for granted

Teero

streams are the thing that draws me too c++ instead of c

Funnily enough streams are probably one of my least favourite things about C++

Learath2

Funnily enough streams are probably one of my least favourite things about C++

what happened

Idk, I just don't like that form of I/O

what would be the better way?

arent cpp streams slowest kind of io processing justatest

justatest

I like C style IO with printf/scanf/puts

It's okay

zhn

arent cpp streams slowest kind of io processing justatest

justatest

They are not that bad(tm)

17:04

I'm a big fan of C++20 std::format

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17:04

Any new C++ I write uses those

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9006 Fix editor Save As confirmation, prevent opening empty filename

The confirmation popup was not shown for the Save As dialog anymore, due to the label being changed to Save As for the respective quick action. This check based on string comparison is rather brittle and can be replaced with comparison of the storage type with IStorage::TYPE_SAVE. When the file dialog is used to open files, prevent opening files with an empty filename if enter is pressed while no file is selected (i.e. when the filter excludes all entries).

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my vs code setup is kinda 18+, no way to share it here

17:13

justatest

holy shit, i made code from CVariableInt::Pack compile in my language, now the question is if it works correctly

updated design

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trollet

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MilkeeyCat

holy shit, i made code from CVariableInt::Pack compile in my language, now the question is if it works correctly

well, that was fast xd

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MilkeeyCat

well, that was fast xd

kek

zhn

my vs code setup is kinda 18+, no way to share it here

I saw it... My poor eyes

17:29

My wife liked it tho iirc

kek

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zhn

my vs code setup is kinda 18+, no way to share it here

How do you even focus with an 18+ vscode setup?

zhn

my vs code setup is kinda 18+, no way to share it here

Send dm

[ 63%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/game-client.dir/src/engine/client/graphics_threaded.cpp.o
[ 63%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/game-client.dir/src/engine/client/input.cpp.o
[ 63%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/game-client.dir/src/engine/client/notifications.cpp.o
/home/lukron/ddnet/src/engine/client/notifications.cpp:9:10: fatal error: libnotify/notify.h: No such file or directory
    9 | #include <libnotify/notify.h>
      |          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
compilation terminated.
make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/game-client.dir/build.make:975: CMakeFiles/game-client.dir/src/engine/client/notifications.cpp.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[ 63%] Linking CXX executable DDNet-Server
[ 63%] Built target game-server
make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:360: CMakeFiles/game-client.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [Makefile:156: all] Error 2

when trying to build ddnet for a server| Raspian OS Lite PI 4 4GB

LuKron

[ 63%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/game-client.dir/src/engine/client/graphics_threaded.cpp.o
[ 63%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/game-client.dir/src/engine/client/input.cpp.o
[ 63%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/game-client.dir/src/engine/client/notifications.cpp.o
/home/lukron/ddnet/src/engine/client/notifications.cpp:9:10: fatal error: libnotify/notify.h: No such file or directory
    9 | #include <libnotify/notify.h>
      |          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
compilation terminated.
make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/game-client.dir/build.make:975: CMakeFiles/game-client.dir/src/engine/client/notifications.cpp.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[ 63%] Linking CXX executable DDNet-Server
[ 63%] Built target game-server
make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:360: CMakeFiles/game-client.dir/all] Error 2
make: *** [Makefile:156: all] Error 2

when trying to build ddnet for a server| Raspian OS Lite PI 4 4GB

You are compiling the client though. Set CLIENT=OFF in cmake so the client is not built, or install the dependencies for the client

so cmake CLIENT=OFF ..

-DCLIENT=OFF

wait it built in like a second when I did that, is that normal?

it doesn't build the client

18:08

so obv takes less time (edited)

LuKron

wait it built in like a second when I did that, is that normal?

Maybe you only reconfigured but didn't build yet. Which commands are you running to build?

Robyt3

Maybe you only reconfigured but didn't build yet. Which commands are you running to build?

 cmake -DCLIENT=OFF ..
 make -j$(nproc)

(edited)

the server is built before the client

if u already built before I think it doesn't build entirely again

that's why - the server was already built (and failed on the client which you now turned off) (edited)

LuKron

 cmake -DCLIENT=OFF ..
 make -j$(nproc)

(edited)

You should probably use -j4 instead of -j$(nproc) as the latter effectively fork bombs your system

18:21

NVM, I think that was -j that starts as many processes as possible

Robyt3

NVM, I think that was -j that starts as many processes as possible

IIRC the command cmake --build . -j will equal -j$(nproc) while make -j will equal -j1 (edited)

18:22

(i may be confusing it tho)

make -j starts unlimited processes for me

5.4 Parallel Execution

GNU make knows how to execute several recipes at once. Normally, make will execute only one recipe at a time, waiting for it to finish before executing the next. However, the ‘-j’ or ‘--jobs’ option tells make to execute many recipes simultaneously.

TiL

18:24

so yes, just -j can hurt weaker pc's

im getting mixed signals

Does the server executable exist now?

one sec

18:32

yeah it does

18:33

where should i gitclone the ddnet-maps git? and also is it worth setting up a myServerconfig.cfg?

18:33

its purely just a server for me and my mates

zhn

my vs code setup is kinda 18+, no way to share it here

now im curious

zhn

my vs code setup is kinda 18+, no way to share it here

my friend is also curious

LuKron

where should i gitclone the ddnet-maps git? and also is it worth setting up a myServerconfig.cfg?

?

maps folder

18:48

and depends on what you wanna do

LuKron

?

maps can go in your generated maps folder under build/data/maps or your local ddnet folder (if one exists, no idea since you didnt build the client) under ~/.local/share/ddnet/maps the myServerconfig.cfg is a useful way to "backup" your settings - the generated config may be overwritten if you update it (edited)

meloƞ

maps can go in your generated maps folder under build/data/maps or your local ddnet folder (if one exists, no idea since you didnt build the client) under ~/.local/share/ddnet/maps the myServerconfig.cfg is a useful way to "backup" your settings - the generated config may be overwritten if you update it (edited)

so if i delete the ones currently there, and git clone the ddnet-maps that should work?

yup, just make sure to do mv ddnet-maps maps (change it's name)

18:51

i think there even is a tutorial on the ddnet-maps github repo?

18:52

ah well that might even be the best option

All official DDNet maps, ready to be run in your own server! Simply download this repository, add your DDNet-Server binary (distributed together with the DDNet client) and start the server. You can change the settings in autoexec_server.cfg

18:52

since then there is no way you loose your maps at any time

what does that mean? add you binary?

your ddnet server executable (edited)

oh yeah

Learath2

How do you even focus with an 18+ vscode setup?

im horny 24/7, i don't pay attention id say owo

owo

justatest

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zaerin

Send dm

later

MilkeeyCat

rate my neovim setup

how are you guys working with such backgrounds, I find it too distracting if its not blurred or just a solid color nouis

nouis

<ChillerDragon> i need andrea botez dancing in the background to be able to code

https://vt.social/@lina/113056457969145576

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I think people really don't appreciate just how incomplete Linux kernel API docs are, and how Rust solves part of the problem. I wrote a pile of Rust abstractions for various subsystems. For practically every single one, I had to read the C source code to understand how to use its API. Simply reading the function signature and associated doc c...

<ChillerDragon> omg matrix didn't bridge my video -.-

19:36

<ChillerDragon> https://tube.zillyhuhn.com/videos/users/chiller/devslopsing.mp4

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> https://tube.zillyhuhn.com/videos/users/chiller/devslopsing.mp4

XDDD

アリヂン

how are you guys working with such backgrounds, I find it too distracting if its not blurred or just a solid color nouis

nouis

it's not distracting for me at all, Im used to it :DD

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> https://tube.zillyhuhn.com/videos/users/chiller/devslopsing.mp4

Aahhahahaha

https://notgull.net/announcing-dozer/

Why am I writing a Rust compiler in C?

To bootstrap Rust, no cost is too great.

Is there a command to disable records saving at all, I have few main servers and few test servers, I want to disable finishing on them

I believe sv_test_cmds 1 disables records

19:55

ah no, maybe it doesn't

19:55

not sur

I think records with test commands used while run will not count

otherwise you could set up a different DB

19:56

simply using sqlite3 with a different filename should work

okay, will try this workaround, thanks

heinrich5991

I believe sv_test_cmds 1 disables records

i think it does

19:58

unless it was changed not long ago

heinrich5991

https://vt.social/@lina/113056457969145576

I’m unsure how much of what they are talking about can be considered an API, especially since most of it is completely private stuff

20:03

This is why I feel rust for linux is having so many problems. Rust’s type system pretty much requires everything to be properly thought out, while these internal private pieces are everchanging and just evolve to cater to their downstream users. Rather than the downstream users figuring out a way to make it work

アリヂン

how are you guys working with such backgrounds, I find it too distracting if its not blurred or just a solid color nouis

nouis

solid black for me xd

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Learath2

I’m unsure how much of what they are talking about can be considered an API, especially since most of it is completely private stuff

hmmm. I'd think for internal APIs it's still nice when you know whether you need a held lock or whether the function takes ownership (edited)

Definitely nice, but I can see why it would be really annoying having to commit to an interface in private APIs

why commit? you can change it any time (just like before), and on the rust side, you'll even get compiler help to find the places that need changes

20:21

rust-based fish imminent: https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/issues/10633

Let's release Rust-based fish · Issue #10633 · fish-shell/fish-shell

Let's do it Here's a pass at what remains to be done to enable the first release of Rust-based fish. I hope this will be a checklist to drive the release forwards. tl;dr: resolve blocking i...

heinrich5991

why commit? you can change it any time (just like before), and on the rust side, you'll even get compiler help to find the places that need changes

but you now need to think about these things that might change

Teero

solid black for me xd

Image attachment

angular

most sane redacted coder

angular

what editor is that xD

Teero

what editor is that xD

dude codes in cmatrix

lol

meloƞ

dude codes in cmatrix

yess

https://github.com/abishekvashok/cmatrix

GitHub - abishekvashok/cmatrix: Terminal based "The Matrix" like im...

Terminal based "The Matrix" like implementation. Contribute to abishekvashok/cmatrix development by creating an account on GitHub.

21:15

i'm not joking, that stuff exists.

Cmatrix++

heinrich5991

why commit? you can change it any time (just like before), and on the rust side, you'll even get compiler help to find the places that need changes

the c developers do not want to change the rust code when they change the c code. That's the issue

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> https://tube.zillyhuhn.com/videos/users/chiller/devslopsing.mp4

that transparency is probably killing your eyes

What's the test output? I don't know, there's a girl dancing all over it

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> https://tube.zillyhuhn.com/videos/users/chiller/devslopsing.mp4

You don't actually use it this transparent, right?

ChillerDragon: ^

best c compiler https://www.ioccc.org/2001/bellard.c

e="++#m--%am*@R<^1c/@%[_[H3c%@%[_[H3c+@.B#d-@%:_^BKd<<Z/03e>>/03e<=0f>=/f<@.f>@1f==&g!='g&&k||#l&@.BCh^@.BSi|@.B+j~@/%Yd!@&d*@b";

21:51

poor guy had to sneeze

found his little brother: haskell compiler https://crypto.stanford.edu/~blynn/compiler/ioccc.html

Chairn

found his little brother: haskell compiler https://crypto.stanford.edu/~blynn/compiler/ioccc.html

the dedication of some people scare me

damn rip ddnet.tw

rip

22:34

it still redirects to ddnet.org currently?

yes

what happened

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9007 Ban compromised old versions

ddnet.tw got taken away, all clients that rely on it for most anything are vulnerable

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the c...

how did it get botched

Is it not possible to just edit the strings in the binaries for the domain?

not trivially

22:36

because the new domain is one character longer

louis

how did it get botched

The new registrar claimed that the transfer is succeeding for weeks, but it was actually failing because they were missing documents which they didn't request.

Status clientTransferProhibited

22:37

that sounds like a lie

who grabbed the domain? or is that secret info

or maybe it failed because it really was prohibited ?

22:37

Registrant: (Redacted for privacy) Administrative Contact: (Redacted for privacy) Technical Contact: (Redacted for privacy) Record expires on 2025-08-09 10:54:26 (UTC+8) Record created on 2024-08-09 10:54:26 (UTC+8)

louis

who grabbed the domain? or is that secret info

We know, it's someone in the community, but not someone trustworthy

poggers2

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heinrich5991

because the new domain is one character longer

register __.xyz

louis

register __.xyz

still longer

https://ddnet.io/ nice website

System Integrator and IT Consulting company

DDNET Solutions, founded in 2006, is a System Integrator and IT Consulting company based in Iasi, Romania. Over the past decade we have offered our services to clients and partners in Europe, North America and Asia.

register .de

I wish you best of luck with getting the domain back! Thanks for taking the appropriate care

crqch

still longer

would aaaa.xyz not be the same length

louis

who grabbed the domain? or is that secret info

ddnet.tw has same ip as tee.world

oh xd

louis

would aaaa.xyz not be the same length

oh i thought u meant ddnet.xyz not ddne.xyz

https://tee.world/

Contact us on discord: noby#5436

it's not noby's site

i know who that is

please don't spam noby

maybe register dnet.net

crqch

maybe register dnet.net

it's already taken

22:42

(without the typo)

Chairn

it's already taken

actually lol

deen

The new registrar claimed that the transfer is succeeding for weeks, but it was actually failing because they were missing documents which they didn't request.

what's the name of that shitty registrar, in order to avoid such crap?

OVH

KEKSad

2

@ReiTW ^ i'm dying of laughter at this information

rip

older clients should be disallowed on ddnet servers immediately

can we finally move to hetzner

a big one

french tech always living up to the expectations

fokkonaut

older clients should be disallowed on ddnet servers immediately

already done

fokkonaut

older clients should be disallowed on ddnet servers immediately

yes, we have a patch and it's deployed on empty servers

good

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/9007

Ban compromised old versions by Learath2 · Pull Request #9007 · ddn...

ddnet.tw got taken away, all clients that rely on it for most anything are vulnerable Checklist Tested the change ingame Provided screenshots if it is a visual change Tested in combination wit...

1

meloƞ

can we finally move to hetzner

hetzner is for chads

ty heino

meloƞ

@ReiTW ^ i'm dying of laughter at this information

everytime I hear OVH I wanna insult them

ReiTW

everytime I hear OVH I wanna insult them

it's insane lmao

that's ovh, right?

Strasbourg data center i guess

@Learath2 now if i wanted to use an old client for whatever sakes reason, i cannot do that without spoofing the clientId now?

burnt few years ago

heinrich5991

that's ovh, right?

yea where Bombay server is currently located at

KEKW

1

22:56

when I was KekStressed

KekStressed

cuz I didn't have any db backup so I was hoping the server didn't turn into a barbecue

meloƞ

@Learath2 now if i wanted to use an old client for whatever sakes reason, i cannot do that without spoofing the clientId now?

we can talk about solutions to that in the next couple of days, for now, no. and perhaps don't try to do it for these couple of days

never trust ovh

22:58

if u get ddosed they will just give up

ReiTW

when I was KekStressed

KekStressed

cuz I didn't have any db backup so I was hoping the server didn't turn into a barbecue

We had our main database there too

22:59

But our servers was in Strasbourg 3, only 4 is/was BBQ

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

a3e50da Update nightly links - def-

louis

who grabbed the domain? or is that secret info

some scot

Domain Name: ddnet.tw
Registry Domain ID: TWDOMAIN0007991952-0
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.gandi.net
Registrar URL: http://www.gandi.net
Updated Date: 2024-08-09T02:54:30Z
Creation Date: 2024-08-09T00:54:26Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2025-08-09T02:54:26Z
Registrar: GANDI SAS
Registrar IANA ID: 81
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@support.gandi.net
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +33.170377661
Reseller: 
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: 
Domain Status: 
Domain Status: 
Domain Status: 
Registry Registrant ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Organization: 
Registrant Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant City: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant State/Province: East Ayrshire
Registrant Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Country: GB
Registrant Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: ff634574cab91b070b3f51865592a153-49826450@contact.gandi.net
Registry Admin ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
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Admin Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: 64ae9774d420603ce59e8d64d4ea1ed6-49826455@contact.gandi.net
Registry Tech ID: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Name: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Organization: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Street: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
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Tech State/Province: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Postal Code: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Country: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Phone: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: 4e65fead99d7887964f56c132327739f-49826460@contact.gandi.net
Name Server: NS-215-A.GANDI.NET
Name Server: NS-22-B.GANDI.NET
Name Server: NS-220-C.GANDI.NET
Name Server: 
Name Server: 
Name Server: 
Name Server: 
Name Server: 
Name Server: 
Name Server: 
DNSSEC: Unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
> Last update of WHOIS database: 2024-09-21T22:40:46Z <<<
> For more information on Whois status codes, please visit
> https://www.icann.org/epp
> Reseller Email: 
> Reseller URL: 
> Personal data access and use are governed by French law, any use for the purpose of unsolicited mass commercial advertising as well as any mass or automated inquiries (for any intent other than the registration or modification of a domain name) are strictly forbidden. Copy of whole or part of our database without Gandi's endorsement is strictly forbidden.
> A dispute over the ownership of a domain name may be subject to the alternate procedure established by the Registry in question or brought before the courts.
> For additional information, please contact us via the following form:
>  https://www.gandi.net/support/contacter/mail/

There is no info in there

yep

23:00

except for the fact that he is scottish (edited)

23:00

or she

Back in my day you actually had to fill your whois. I had an oold domain with my actual information on there down to my address

if you know the owner of tee.world you know who snagged it

But even if you would know, domain takeovers are a business tho

23:01

Registrars are not allowed to transfer domains that easily, they need a local court telling them

always

except for the fact that he is scottish (edited)

SP Someone greenthing

greenthing

it should be possible to recompile old binaries with the new url right?

He's scottish

heinrich5991

we can talk about solutions to that in the next couple of days, for now, no. and perhaps don't try to do it for these couple of days

^

Tater

it should be possible to recompile old binaries with the new url right?

Or drop support & finally remove old clients

23:03

no more backwards comp

Someone told me they have lag in newer versions, I don't have any solution for them (edited)

Image attachment

Avolicious

Or drop support & finally remove old clients

and make the whole cummunity mad

always

and make the whole cummunity mad

More like <5% of the community

always

and make the whole cummunity mad

Why? Most people are using latest versions anways. It should be quite normal to update software regularly. Not just for the sake of features, but also security

@heinrich5991 You did try to contact ovh's support after the transfer failed ?

Avolicious

Why? Most people are using latest versions anways. It should be quite normal to update software regularly. Not just for the sake of features, but also security

true

Getting mad about the sitting animation is funny

ReiTW

@heinrich5991 You did try to contact ovh's support after the transfer failed ?

yes, they were useless and demanded and got money for it AFAIK

If we were making millions off of this, I'm fairly certain there would be an angle where we could sue OVH for this

ReiTW

@heinrich5991 You did try to contact ovh's support after the transfer failed ?

For starters I couldn't log into their support site, phone support was not available because I don't pay enough. At some point they admitted that the transfer had already failed (it was still shown as succeeding in their UI) and they refunded me the money, but nothing they can do about the lost domain.

23:06

(email support not possible either)

Learath2

If we were making millions off of this, I'm fairly certain there would be an angle where we could sue OVH for this

Well, you would legally go against the registrar to give you the domain back

And then sue OVH for a possible revenue loss

deen

For starters I couldn't log into their support site, phone support was not available because I don't pay enough. At some point they admitted that the transfer had already failed (it was still shown as succeeding in their UI) and they refunded me the money, but nothing they can do about the lost domain.

Yeah, OVH support is crap

23:07

They still send me e-mails everyday about possible hacked servers, where a stupid kid just runs spoofed dns queries against

The original registrar was not at fault, I let the domain expire because I initiated the transfer 2 months earlier.

Avolicious

Well, you would legally go against the registrar to give you the domain back

And then sue OVH for a possible revenue loss

Since we don't make any money, the registrar is probably registered in the cayman islands or some shit, and twnic is in taiwan. It's safe to say we aren't getting jack shit

And twnic doesn't care since we have no trademark in taiwan etc.

Learath2

Since we don't make any money, the registrar is probably registered in the cayman islands or some shit, and twnic is in taiwan. It's safe to say we aren't getting jack shit

All registrars have to follow ICANN policies

23:08

But yes, we are too small

Avolicious

All registrars have to follow ICANN policies

I'm sure they have to reply within 5 to 365 days after being notified by pidgeon mail on the filing of a court case with the international criminal court

Tater

Someone told me they have lag in newer versions, I don't have any solution for them (edited)

trying newest version now, still getting stutters :(

Learath2

I'm sure they have to reply within 5 to 365 days after being notified by pidgeon mail on the filing of a court case with the international criminal court

Well, no. ICANN is pretty strict about domain hijacking. The problem is local law

deen

For starters I couldn't log into their support site, phone support was not available because I don't pay enough. At some point they admitted that the transfer had already failed (it was still shown as succeeding in their UI) and they refunded me the money, but nothing they can do about the lost domain.

damn rip :/

Viperatra

trying newest version now, still getting stutters :(

which graphics backend are you using? Vulkan?

how do i check

in graphics settings

23:10

you can just screenshot

yeah defualt

23:10

vulkan 1.1.0

can you try with opengl

23:10

whatever the highest version is

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

db0c83d Ban compromised old versions - Learath2 be74009 Merge pull request #9007 from Learath2/pr_olddomain - def-

23:10

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9007 Ban compromised old versions

Anyways, it happend and we now have to deal with this situation. Sadly there are a lot of bad actors that still try to destroy this game out of pure joy.

Tater

can you try with opengl

seems less so far but i'd have to play for a while to make sure

did you use vulkan as well in your 16.1 version?

Thanks for the fix & communication @heinrich5991 & @Learath2 !

yeah if it's default

A bit of a shame that it ended this way. I wished we could take the domain back

Maybe at one day, but I am glad that they havent taken over ddnet.org

23:14

That would be a mess now

2

yes

No backup master servers or anything on an alt-domain

what's the time that this happened? and could it have affected users without them knowing? what can people do to check?

Viperatra

what's the time that this happened? and could it have affected users without them knowing? what can people do to check?

The domain was lost a month or so ago. It has just redirected to ddnet.org for the longest time, until about a week ago when the certificate expired. During that period there was no malicious activity with the domain. Currently it redirects some of our services to their own replacements which should only allow them to show you weird skins or maps. The update server has been dead for a long while for these versions and the person who got the domain didn't revive it. So I'd say there really is no risk

1

of having been infected so far.

this

2

Learath2

The domain was lost a month or so ago. It has just redirected to ddnet.org for the longest time, until about a week ago when the certificate expired. During that period there was no malicious activity with the domain. Currently it redirects some of our services to their own replacements which should only allow them to show you weird skins or maps. The update server has been dead for a long while for these versions and the person who got the domain didn't revive it. So I'd say there really is no risk

thanks for the detailed reply :)

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9008 Collapse tabs

I just updated to the new version of DDNet and I noticed you can only see 13 people on the server at once. My suggestion is to be able to collapse the communities & Info to be able to see more people at once. !Collapse

Learath2

The domain was lost a month or so ago. It has just redirected to ddnet.org for the longest time, until about a week ago when the certificate expired. During that period there was no malicious activity with the domain. Currently it redirects some of our services to their own replacements which should only allow them to show you weird skins or maps. The update server has been dead for a long while for these versions and the person who got the domain didn't revive it. So I'd say there really is no risk

can i ask what services

cyberfighter 2

can i ask what services

maps.ddnet.tw and skins.ddnet.tw

ah

23:54

ddnet.tw/skins doesnt, lmao

Learath2

maps.ddnet.tw and skins.ddnet.tw

He's gonna make them download 8k skins

no its just

Or the entire Shrek movie in pngs

gigachad

1

Nah i doubt

23:55

i think he just puts random shit that got declined from submissions

is there any info on who it is?

sp someone

cyberfighter 2

sp someone

nah xd

it is

really?

yes

How do you know?

23:56

cyberfighter is not a trustworthy source

cuz his discord server has smth going on with that skin database

23:57

and its a sp someone thing to do

Teero

How do you know?

ddnet.tw ip is now same as tee.world ip

23:58

which was owned by sp someone

23:58

+ whois points to scotland which matches up

who woulda guessed im not a fuckin liar

that would make the risk of malicious actions non-zero

why dont u join and speak to the fella

23:59

DDNet GER10 [ger10.ddnet.org whitelist] - DDmaX.Pro Address: ddnet://45.141.57.22:8336 My IGN: always

45.141.57.22:8336 is an official DDraceNetwork (DDNet, Region:

) server. Quick join: https://ddnet.org/connect-to/?addr=45.141.57.22:8336/

hes in this server

cyberfighter 2

who woulda guessed im not a fuckin liar

I guessed it like an hour ago but as a jokr (edited)

23:59

XD

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