DDraceNetwork - developer

<ChillerDragon> nice @MilkeeyCat

00:02

<ChillerDragon> can any matrix enjoyer still receive images? For me none of my desktop clients show them anymore.

Works fine for me.

<ChillerDragon> which client?

a okay Cinny shows one now after reloading it twice interesting

The element web client and SchildiChat on phone. The only things I don't see are larger files, which exceed the bridge file limit.

<ChillerDragon> hydrogen.element.io ?

oh yea indeed that works too

00:25

okay seems like only my element desktop and Cinny sometimes is broken

<ChillerDragon> thanks @furo

Nah, not this. I meant, https://app.element.io

Replying to @ws-client ws-client: <ChillerDragon> hydrogen.element.io ?

i from russia

congratulations

sjrc6

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8969 Enabled cl_sub_tick_aiming by default

This PR is just mostly for discussion. I have no idea why this shouldn't be enabled since it seems to work perfectly fine. Almost no one even knows this exists and the difference is so subtle that no one talks about it.

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Co...

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THIS SECRET CONFIG VARIABLE!!!

so true

03:42

but actually this seems huge

chillerdragon

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THIS SECRET CONFIG VARIABLE!!!

literally lol

chillerdragon

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THIS SECRET CONFIG VARIABLE!!!

sv_sixup 0 ?

кто со мной в дднет?

MilkeeyCat

chillerdragon: I finally achieved something xd

During that time I made all the possible mistakes, it took me 30 mins to realize I removed broadcast type from address type and it wasn't sending packets ;-; (edited)

chillerdragon

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THIS SECRET CONFIG VARIABLE!!!

For your 0.6/0.7 JSaurusRex's DM+/CTF+ server, can you link the repo?

Jsaurus/ddnet vanilla branch

06:31

Why @Pathos ?

<ChillerDragon> https://github.com/JSaurusRex/ddnet/tree/vanilla

GitHub - JSaurusRex/ddnet at vanilla

DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Teeworlds - GitHub - JSaurusRex/ddnet at vanilla

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

d86b510 Add autocompletion hint for chat commands - furo321 217103a Merge pull request #8968 from furo321/command-hint - def-

07:28

def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8968 Add autocompletion hint for chat commands

does ddnet support 0.7 servers/the 0.7 protocol? I was wondering, because I find servers with teeworlds 0.7 (edited)

Issue with announcement(I'm lazy to create pr): Bug: If there are > 1 lines in announcement.txt, then it send the second line the first time. This happens because default line is 0 and GetAnnouncementLine increases line and then returns string. Feature: Also, it would be nice if there were reload_announcement rcon command. Also I think it's better to load announcement file when server starts (edited)

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wtf is this even

AssassinTee

does ddnet support 0.7 servers/the 0.7 protocol? I was wondering, because I find servers with teeworlds 0.7 (edited)

yeah it semi-does now with latest

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cause ddnet is real client now even for vanilla players

09:24

I wonder if we could enhance vanilla hud like gamer client used to do

still no antiping there

09:24

sucks playing on 07 servers ngl

you mean when we play on 0.7 we don't have any antiping?

exactly

didn't even notice xd

try to join rus 07 servers if theres some xd

but yeah the feeling is weird cause it looks like a different game

09:25

cause it is ofc

07 has another physics afair

09:26

i don't remember if ddnet can mimic it

yeah that's crazy

Puch

I wonder if we could enhance vanilla hud like gamer client used to do

why

zhn

07 has another physics afair

just in a few edge cases, shouldn't be an issue or do you have any major physics change in mind?

whats the reason to do that

but 0.7 ddnet > pure 0.7

AssassinTee

just in a few edge cases, shouldn't be an issue or do you have any major physics change in mind?

strong(tm) hook by default is the only i can recall now actually

09:27

but still bouncing is there

09:27

so nothing major

I have more fps on ddnet

idk why but some 07 players "feel game better with 07"

09:27

we still have 07 only vani players

zhn

but still bouncing is there

bouncing doesn't affect the 0.7 physics, because it doesn't affect it ( I was the guy who implemented it)

zhn

we still have 07 only vani players

cuz they r stubborn

it's just cause the guys are used to that client

AssassinTee

bouncing doesn't affect the 0.7 physics, because it doesn't affect it ( I was the guy who implemented it)

what do you mean it doesn't afdect it

09:28

affect*

zhn

what do you mean it doesn't afdect it

sorry what kind of bouncing do you mean? player bouncing or the bouncing tuning?

but imo nowadays ddnet won the fight of the best client I guess

theres no tuning in vanilla

AssassinTee

sorry what kind of bouncing do you mean? player bouncing or the bouncing tuning?

player bouncing, i didn't mentiont elasticity, sry

09:28

mention*

cyberfighter 2

theres no tuning in vanilla

wild take and wrong

i need a hard eep rn

ur wrong

cyberfighter 2

ur wrong

ur

09:29

u can tune vanilla

ok go make it bouncy

zhn

player bouncing, i didn't mentiont elasticity, sry

I mean elasticity doesn't affect it, because elasticity doesn't affect standard physics

0.7 should be equal to elasticity 0 (edited)

imo next step is ddnet take more & more into account vanilla like make evolve hud etc

09:30

even 0.7 we don't care anymore

AssassinTee

I mean elasticity doesn't affect it, because elasticity doesn't affect standard physics

0.7 should be equal to elasticity 0 (edited)

yeah, i mean bouncing is an issue actually, its like a third leg that came out of current character collision check loop

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cyberfighter 2

ok go make it bouncy

already done https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/3136 (edited)

zhn

yeah, i mean bouncing is an issue actually, its like a third leg that came out of current character collision check loop

okay, wasn't aware of that, thank you!

its not released

then go release it

why

cyb go replace oy

09:33

become a new tw maintainer

even matricks is showing in that discord compared to pure tw.

Puch

even matricks is showing in that discord compared to pure tw.

it means ddnet really won cause development is there now

i would rather work on ddrace and mods rather than the same 2 gamemodes for 13 years

the change is there

09:33

:p

I think at this point it would be easier to integrate teeworlds 0.7 stuff into ddnet and make it dead

you're the future anyway it's not about make teeworlds 0.7 dead

what is even missing from 0.7

cyberfighter 2

what is even missing from 0.7

Oy joining ddnet greenthing

anyway as a vanilla player I think we are happy with what you've done with ddnet

cyberfighter 2

i would rather work on ddrace and mods rather than the same 2 gamemodes for 13 years

yeah imagine 1 mod killed original 5 mods

that's life

there actually were some really nice teeworlds mods I am missing

zhn

yeah imagine 1 mod killed original 5 mods

ddmax's fault for banning deen

AssassinTee

there actually were some really nice teeworlds mods I am missing

same here

1 mod didn't kill 5 mods but 5 mods were dead cause they didn't evolve

09:36

ddrace was the future they integrated all other mods in their client

Puch

1 mod didn't kill 5 mods but 5 mods were dead cause they didn't evolve

but they did, people don't want to pvp these days like this

vanilla just had to move with them that's all

09:36

community was more active update better that's all

i remember having like a tons of kog and alike mods with pvp in mind and they were playable

@Puch easier said then done, go evolve a mod made for 0.7 for ddnet (edited)

zhn

but they did, people don't want to pvp these days like this

i think its because the game isnt shown as a pvp game

cyberfighter 2

i think its because the game isnt shown as a pvp game

by whom

ddnet

09:37

where new players come from

09:37

steam page or something

@zhn do you know, if the 0.7 skins/partial skins are now possible in ddnet?

I know that's hard @AssassinTee

cyberfighter 2

where new players come from

all ddrace players came from old race/vani mods

when I saw the nightmare to do a gctf server

09:38

we can ty chillerdragon for the work

and then ddnet established as second fundament of this game

im talking about new new players

AssassinTee

@zhn do you know, if the 0.7 skins/partial skins are now possible in ddnet?

yeah it does

but that's the point the problem was we didn't merge devs to one team (edited)

09:38

we kept 2 different teams for what?

cyberfighter 2

im talking about new new players

new new players are half blockers and half racers

block isnt real pvp

for ego? idk what happened

09:39

it's just ddnet evolved better in the end

cyberfighter 2

block isnt real pvp

what it is then

its dogshit

Puch

it's just ddnet evolved better in the end

ddnet just merged everything that master didn't kek (edited)

idk what happened i wasn't there anyway

cyberfighter 2

its dogshit

still pvp/pve

idk i dont count block as a real gamemode because it doesnt have an end goal

that's a mode anyway

cyberfighter 2

idk i dont count block as a real gamemode because it doesnt have an end goal

to become the best blocker ofc

the point is to chat and block players

09:41

xd

missing the block tournnament mode xD (edited)

thats like saying the point of ctf is to become the best player

09:41

and not to capture the flag

AssassinTee

missing the block tournnament mode xD (edited)

join bw or rb :p

@cyberfighter 2 you don't imagine the ego there is in ctf

cyberfighter 2

thats like saying the point of ctf is to become the best player

thats a thing: u can set any goal in block

ofc you had some players they didn't care about the flags lol

map actually defines the goals

they were playing dm

mini arenas and all

zhn

map actually defines the goals

theres still no finish though

mini arenas were cool I admit

cyberfighter 2

theres still no finish though

if u enjoy with finish, go with finish kekw

09:42

still u have a goal

09:42

to keep ur arena clean and clear

anyway ddnet is cool a lot of good vani players play it

Puch

@cyberfighter 2 you don't imagine the ego there is in ctf

there is ego everywhere

its like king of hill, do you think it has no goals at all or what

@cyberfighter 2 yes but the level in vanilla was hard

wdgm

09:44

what level in vanilla

zhn

its like king of hill, do you think it has no goals at all or what

block is endless though

I mean we had plenty of players considering other mods like shit

idk

when ddrace opened

cyberfighter 2

block is endless though

king of hill too

09:45

becausr no timelimit

i dont know king of hill btw, i was talking about a koth mode i had in my head

but I also remember we had cool moments in oldschool maps in ddrace server xd

cyberfighter 2

i dont know king of hill btw, i was talking about a koth mode i had in my head

irl game

oh

u just trying until all u would head out of the game kekw