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DDraceNetwork

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<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ i finally know now how u gamed with ping i assume you used cl_antiping :D i only had cl_predict on

u have never used antiping?? oh dear

Antiping haters should see the light like I have, it's worth it

<ChillerDragon> @Ewan i prefer good internet

04:10

<ChillerDragon> if my internet is not perfect i just dont play

lol

<ChillerDragon> I spend 2 days reverse engineering ddnet persian protocol

04:11

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1725768644.png

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04:11

<ChillerDragon> chillerbot-zx can now connect to all ddnet persian servers xd

04:12

<ChillerDragon> figuring out their custom snapshots was a bit tricky but no problem for haxor dragon who can read network hexdumps of snaps and just sees tees

04:12

<ChillerDragon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAYXgbSlSv0

I don't even see the code

04:12

<ChillerDragon> im this guy

04:14

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1725768804.png

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04:14

<ChillerDragon> all i see is cammostripes, twinbop and pinky

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> I spend 2 days reverse engineering ddnet persian protocol

Very nice

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

8ab49f1 A Dash Dummy - ddnet-maps

Now you should help me develop this https://twelo.pages.dev And re: GitHub, yes it's me

<ChillerDragon> nice site

Thanks

04:31

Only few pages are available as dummy front end

04:34

So I think I can figure out how to setup Javascript (probably not secure?) to interact to a pythonanywhere Flask API, but I couldn't figure out how setup database that connects to the API :( I explored a bit of pythonanywhere's Flask Alchemy SQL, as well as Turso. Turso -- I didn't delve in deep because it seems like it requires Rust (just for the Cargo I think) and didn't want to install anything on the pythonanywhere env just yet (edited)

04:39

If you happen to know anyone that can do backend, and someone that can mod a TW server...

<ChillerDragon> basically everyone who is active in this channel @Pathos xd

04:45

<ChillerDragon> btw if you want to do stats stuff i recommend ddnet-insta it already has a json api @Pathos https://github.com/ddnet-insta/ddnet-insta/blob/e2031acdac3040e9944fb785d97d934527a588ad/README.md#json---javascript-object-notation-format-4

ddnet-insta/README.md at e2031acdac3040e9944fb785d97d934527a588ad ·...

A teeworlds instagib (grenade/laser capture the flag/death match/catch) mod based on DDRaceNetwork (gctf/ictf/idm/gdm/zcatch) - ddnet-insta/ddnet-insta

04:45

<ChillerDragon> and it recently also got brand new CTF/DM support

Needs a 'win' key :P but looking nice

<ChillerDragon> win key?

Yeah key-value pair, win = 1 or win = 0 without deducing it

<ChillerDragon> where?

04:49

<ChillerDragon> you need to know which team won? Its the one with the higher score lol

It could be something like

...
"score_limit": 200,
"win": -1, for red, 1 if blue, 0 if tied
"time_limit": 0,
...

04:49

Yeah you're right

<ChillerDragon> i mean i could add it but seems a bit redundant and also I don't like the magic values too much

04:50

<ChillerDragon> is looking at the score a problem for you?

Now that I think about it, no -- just far future scope to have 'agree to tie' games, that's all

04:50

Typically due to disconnects or emergencies etc.

<ChillerDragon> gctf community is building something similar

04:51

<ChillerDragon> TNT has some ranking website based on those stats

You have link?

<ChillerDragon> no i lost it -.-

04:53

<ChillerDragon> https://gctfleague.org/

Teeworlds-league

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04:53

<ChillerDragon> ez found it

Wait, is it automated? Like you log in through the client like Teerace?

04:54

Auto upload results

<ChillerDragon> it posts the round stats to a http endpoint of every game

04:54

<ChillerDragon> no accounts

04:54

<ChillerDragon> here is the code for the site btw https://github.com/TyeNTy/teeworlds-league

GitHub - TyeNTy/teeworlds-league: Teeworlds League

Teeworlds League. Contribute to TyeNTy/teeworlds-league development by creating an account on GitHub.

So no account system, right? Or planned?

<ChillerDragon> Not planned

Something like Teerace would be ideal

<ChillerDragon> I see

Otherwise, it's basically another https://teerank.io

Teerank is a simple and fast ranking system for Teeworlds.

<ChillerDragon> yea

04:57

<ChillerDragon> i dont have time for accounts now first i want to get other stuff done but maybe somewhen far in the future. Guess for now you have to code it your self.

I don't mind that at all, but would be nice to have some guidance from someone that has experience with pythonanywhere + some free database

04:58

I'm stuck on deciding between exploring more of pythonanywhere's own Flask AlchemySQL or Turso (edited)

04:58

I didn't run into deadend, but it's going to be a lot of time sink if I make the wrong choice now

<ChillerDragon> Yeah no idea I don't do cloud or free. I only do bare metal linux servers.

Yeah one day I will get back to hosting on Raspi, then probably more full fledged server at home

chiller

09:28

dragon

кто русс

Я

morning fellas

Jupstar ✪

Philosophically that is a interesting question. Do two parallel lines intersect if they are equal. xddd (edited)

yes, they intersect at every points you consider

their intersection product in the projective plane is a single point, in the affine plane it's zero because the lines themselves are zero

what the hell is intersection product ? you mean orthogonal projection ?

it's a concept in algebraic geometry

11:15

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersection_theory#Intersection_theory_in_algebraic_geometry

Intersection theory

In mathematics, intersection theory is one of the main branches of algebraic geometry, where it gives information about the intersection of two subvarieties of a given variety. The theory for varieties is older, with roots in Bézout's theorem on curves and elimination theory. On the other hand, the topological theory more quickly reached a defin...

Next Android beta version is now available, see https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1277345584080097320/1282304450014482504

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im bored so i decided to make my own rly simple isa and a emulator for it, what do u think dont want to add immediate add cuz u can do that with a mov, since i want to keep it simple

Image attachment

11:56

totally not riscv inspired

why no null opcode ?

<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ Ip man hold my dumpling https://tube.zillyhuhn.com/video.php?t=on_fire_mode_idm.mp4&u=chiller

make instant respawn

13:22

but yeah man it is cool ngl

13:22

just dunno if cool in competitive scenario

is it possible to make the client not die after systemctl suspend command?

13:35

the process still exists but it doesn't render anything or play any sounds

Ryozuki

im bored so i decided to make my own rly simple isa and a emulator for it, what do u think dont want to add immediate add cuz u can do that with a mov, since i want to keep it simple

risc6?

13:41

i like the way ryo copies everything he loves

13:42

at that point he can proceed to create human cloning machine

Chairn

why no null opcode ?

true, i guess it will be the noop

zhn

at that point he can proceed to create human cloning machine

@Ryozuki eta? troll

troll

zhn

@Ryozuki eta? troll

troll

xD soon tm

1

13:52

tbh my idea is make this emulated isa and a custom compiler then a lang using this

13:52

and maybe a rly simple os on top

ye and then verilog prototype for it

xd

homebrew processor

13:53

and ryo industries frfr

poggers2

i wonder if intel will sell their factories

13:53

u can buy one

kek

to remake it into foss factory

what the hell is this

14:04

is it possible to do something like this?

14:04

i saw it on a trashmap server

it has similarities to one of chillerdragon's bots - pretty easy to code

Trash map are official ddnet servers as far as I know

14:07

So this looks like a sus bot client

14:07

It has been done as you can see in the video. Or what do you mean by is it possible?

Replying to @main character is it possible to do something like this?

chillerdragon

Trash map are official ddnet servers as far as I know

no.

14:09

trashmap is not affiliated with ddnet

Since when?

since ever :p

14:09

its a project by timakro

It’s built by timakro for map testing not for server modding to my knowledge

chillerdragon

It has been done as you can see in the video. Or what do you mean by is it possible?

so doesn't ddnet have an anticheat?

14:10

the bot makes suspicious moves and doesnt get banned when there is anticheat

No not all servers have anti cheat

14:10

Yes but he rq so I thought it’s hosted by ddnet these days

Replying to @meloƞ its a project by timakro

14:11

Anyways the way I understood it is for map testing and not for custom servers

yeah but that's for timakro to decide and handle, his last discord message was around 2 months ago - did he really rq? :o

meloƞ

yeah but that's for timakro to decide and handle, his last discord message was around 2 months ago - did he really rq? :o

no

Yes

14:11

He ghost

he remakes unique race server btw

14:12

to ddnet base

why would he do that

14:12

kekw

urs is too old

14:12

pure 0.6

monkaStop

u can't even complete commands after removing hardcoded mess on client side

feelsbadman

chillerdragon

Trash map are official ddnet servers as far as I know

Chillerdragon: They aren't official ddnet servers. We only provide a prettier domain: https://trashmap.ddnet.org/. The servers are hosted by timakro

14:37

Ah

was faster

impl InstBuilder {
    #[inline]
    pub fn new() -> Self {
        Self { value: 0 }
    }

    #[inline]
    pub fn opcode(&mut self, opcode: OpCode) -> &mut Self {
        assert_ne!(opcode, OpCode::Invalid);

        let value = opcode as u32;

        self.value = self.value ^ (self.value & 0xff);
        self.value |= value;
        self
    }

    #[inline]
    pub fn rd(&mut self, value: u32) -> &mut Self {
        self.value = self.value ^ (self.value & 0xf00);
        self.value |= (value & 0xf) << 8;
        self
    }

    #[inline]
    pub fn rs1(&mut self, value: u32) -> &mut Self {
        self.value = self.value ^ (self.value & 0xf000);
        self.value |= (value & 0xf) << 12;
        self
    }

    #[inline]
    pub fn rs2(&mut self, value: u32) -> &mut Self {
        self.value = self.value ^ (self.value & 0xf0000);
        self.value |= (value & 0xf) << 16;
        self
    }

    #[inline]
    pub fn imm20(&mut self, value: u32) -> &mut Self {
        self.value = self.value ^ (self.value & 0xfffff000);
        self.value |= (value & 0xfffff) << 12;
        self
    }

    #[inline]
    pub fn imm12(&mut self, value: u32) -> &mut Self {
        self.value = self.value ^ (self.value & 0xfff00000);
        self.value |= (value & 0xfff) << 20;
        self
    }

    pub fn build(self) -> u32 {
        self.value
    }
}

isnt it beautiful

thats riscv right..

<ChillerDragon> @murpi @meloƞ omagawd what i mean is that those are not heavily modded servers with features such as server side bots "official" might be the wrong word. I did not want to say "vanilla"

kek

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nerd

14:42

its fine chiller <3

<ChillerDragon> its hosted by ddnet and its for maps it should be regular ddnet servers so if there is something running around and hammering with aimbot that clip probably falls under RULE #7

meloƞ

thats riscv right..

no its edux

14:43

xd

ah

kek

fuckyousnail

looks really good tho

<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ is fng "freeze and grab" or "freeze next generation"?

the 2nd

14:54

why u ask me lmao

14:54

$wiki fng

FNG Common Terminology - Common FNG Acronyms and Terms

<ChillerDragon> https://github.com/topics/freeze-and-grab

Build software better, together

GitHub is where people build software. More than 100 million people use GitHub to discover, fork, and contribute to over 420 million projects.

14:54

<ChillerDragon> you seem to use that term

14:54

<ChillerDragon> first time i see it

https://archive.strct.cc/ddnet/2017-12-18/general.html#chatlog__message-container-392261754450608128

<ChillerDragon> who is that?

14:55

<ChillerDragon> and how did you get that so fast xd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DE9GLua8Fw

Teeworlds - Freeze-Ng mod

14:55

i simply did $wiki fng

14:56

bcs i am discord not_really enjoyer

<ChillerDragon> ah i thought its trol

14:56

<ChillerDragon> didnt see the embed here

the video is more of a proof

<ChillerDragon> i subbed the channel

the fact that he spelled out freeze

<ChillerDragon> 2nd sub

but not ng

<ChillerDragon> xd

nice

14:57

he has some epyc beats

14:57

in the video

<ChillerDragon> he had 1 sub and 1 video from 15yrs ago im sure he will upload next week

14:58

<ChillerDragon> and i wont miss it

ping him somehow

14:59

and ask him if freeze-ng is freeze next gen

14:59

do your usual ping magic

<ChillerDragon> i will

ping him on some 1990 svn repo somewhere in the darkest of the dark nets

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1725807595.png

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15:00

<ChillerDragon> he already did

xd

15:00

i know that guy xd

15:00

maybe i asked him to ask xD

$wiki

Missing required argument. Correct usage: $wiki <keyword>

$wiki Ryozuki

Resources Development TeeSmash

pog

<ChillerDragon> $wiki irc discrimination

$wiki irc

Resources DDRace

<ChillerDragon> does the wiki have git blame?

15:09

<ChillerDragon> I guess history is what gets closest to it

@Jupstar ✪ Any idea why Vulkan cannot be found anymore when building ARM64 and x64 Android?

--  * Vulkan not found
-- To run the tests, you have to install GTest
CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:714 (message):
  You must install Vulkan libraries to compile the DDNet client

Building ARM and x86 works. Changed min API to 23 since curl does not compile with min API 21.

15:17

Seems like old API versions simply do not support Vulkan with 64 bit... (edited)

quite possible that they don't

ok, API 24 works

Epyc anti-backward compatbility moment

yeah, the min api slowly keeps increasing lol

15:22

but it seems like it was never that low to begin with

15:22

never worked with those versions

<ChillerDragon> 0.5 prediction code be like

15:23

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1725808961.png

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<ChillerDragon> "Note: tested with gcc5 under debian8, report, if older versions don't work"

15:48

<ChillerDragon> guess who am i quoting here

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8916 Fix minimum Android API version and linking errors

The minimum supported API version must be specified when building the native libraries, otherwise this may cause linking errors when launching the app. The minimum API level is increased to 24 (Android 7.0, covering 97.2% of usages) because:

Vulkan is only available from API 24+ on ARM64 and x64.
curl only compiles with API 23+.
The NDK version we use supports only API 21+.

Ensure that the C++/Linker flags are set when building Android libraries, which was causing errors due ...

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

d536bce Fix minimum Android API version and linking errors - Robyt3 46acbdd Merge pull request #8916 from Robyt3/Android-API-Version-Building-Fix - def-

17:02

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8916 Fix minimum Android API version and linking errors

GG

are ddnet binaries compiled with modern compilers?

17:30

it would be a pitty if its old cuz u lose new opts

17:30

anyway, use gentoo

they are build with old ones

17:30

and perform basically the same xdd

kek

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xd

@Learath2

monkaStop

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ddnet virus?

MilkeeyCat

@Learath2

monkaStop

what's this?

my language justatest

justatest

It says to me that ddnet is a virus, is it true?

isofile2

It says to me that ddnet is a virus, is it true?

depends where you downloaded it xd

isofile2

It says to me that ddnet is a virus, is it true?

No, it's a regular game.

oh

18:54

okay

18:54

but I downloaded from the official website and it says that it is a virus

what antivirus program are you using?

meloƞ

what antivirus program are you using?

virustotal

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/18ce070e04ea379fe9884b93f0fc763838083ab668e0e57aaffb0882a4d3ae25 virustotal says ddnet is fine :)

VirusTotal

18:55

are you sure you downloaded it from https://ddnet.org/

yes

if downloaded from the official website its an obvious false positive - ddnet is open source: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet on the other hand - closed source bot clients are malware infected

GitHub - ddnet/ddnet: DDraceNetwork, a free cooperative platformer ...

DDraceNetwork, a free cooperative platformer game. Contribute to ddnet/ddnet development by creating an account on GitHub.

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/250d15aba811b235621330e57fb94db53d36cff5f7b7f89cd73b4b1874da701e

18:58

Image attachment

18:58

you can probably ignore whatever DrWeb is

18:58

looks like it detects our crash dumping as something bad, which makes no sense

DDNet-18.5-win64 (2).zip gotta respect you downloading it for the third time now :P

but when I open the file, it says that the PC may be at risk of a virus

If you downloaded from ddnet.org or from Steam then it should be safe, Windows shows a warning for all files downloaded from the internet

I don’t think it would show it for steam

yeah, the Mark of the Web is only applied to files downloaded with a web browser AFAIK (edited)

DrWeb xddd

19:14

sounds so trustworthy

I think it comes from dr mingw

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1725808961.png

at least they already had proper freeze skins lol

lol

hi i have problem is there anyone here who can guide me?

we all have problems, maybe you can say what your problem is

Jupstar ✪

we all have problems, maybe you can say what your problem is

Thank you for your answer

Np, i am waiting for yours

if i want to define a function that goes from the start menu to the Settings > Information menu that I created where and how should I express it?

19:50

When we click on the setting in the start menu, it will be transferred to the setting section (edited)

19:52

i created this , ihen i click it goes to an unknown place

Image attachment

19:52

going here and goin to unreadNews page

Image attachment

19:52

@Jupstar ✪

i don't know by heart, i'd probably need to do a global search over the code and find how other things do it too

19:54

so guess i am not really a help

i was also looking for it but I didn't see any work that i could do to move it to the place i want

19:55

Dont know anyone else to help? @Jupstar ✪

I dunno just wait and maybe someone answers.. And while waiting just read the code a bit, maybe u are lucky and find the answer

.

idk off the top of my head

Jupstar ✪

I dunno just wait and maybe someone answers.. And while waiting just read the code a bit, maybe u are lucky and find the answer

ok sure , ty ❤️

@Ryozuki https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1fb4cga/google_says_replacing_cc_in_firmware_with_rust_is/

MAhdiyar

ok sure , ty ❤️

reference the enum in CMenus (menus.h) (e.g):

enum
    {
        PAGE_NEWS = 1,
        PAGE_GAME,
        PAGE_PLAYERS,
        PAGE_SERVER_INFO,
        PAGE_CALLVOTE,
        PAGE_INTERNET,
        PAGE_LAN,
        PAGE_FAVORITES,

see how the page is setup, what it calls/gets called to, what is happening when case == PAGE_INTERNET etc.

meloƞ

reference the enum in CMenus (menus.h) (e.g):

enum
    {
        PAGE_NEWS = 1,
        PAGE_GAME,
        PAGE_PLAYERS,
        PAGE_SERVER_INFO,
        PAGE_CALLVOTE,
        PAGE_INTERNET,
        PAGE_LAN,
        PAGE_FAVORITES,

see how the page is setup, what it calls/gets called to, what is happening when case == PAGE_INTERNET etc.

what about setup?

how for example page_internet is structured, how it's rendered etc

20:29

That should give you the knowledge on creating your own

I know how they work and i tried them one by one but still my page is, blank

We would need to see your entire code to know why feelsbadman

feelsbadman

I just can't figure out what to replace it to go to the page i made

meloƞ

We would need to see your entire code to know why feelsbadman

feelsbadman

20:32

actually i create one function on menus.cpp

void CMenus::RenderInformation(CUIRect MainView)
{

  

};

20:32

next i create one tab on Settings, name is Information

  void CMenus::RenderSettingsInformation(CUIRect MainView)
{



    char aBuf[128 + IO_MAX_PATH_LENGTH];
    CUIRect Label, Button, Left, Right, Game, ClientSettings;
    MainView.HSplitTop(50.0f, &Game, &ClientSettings);
    {
    Game.HSplitTop(20.0f, &Label, &Game);
    Ui()->DoLabel(&Label, Localize("Welcome To --- Hope Enjoy  "), 20.0f, TEXTALIGN_ML);


        
    }

(edited)

Мое

Zzz Melon

20:41

how to modify ddnet and make your own ideas?

By start coding today

MilkeeyCat

@Learath2

monkaStop

Nicely done

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