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Apollon 2024-08-26 00:00
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 03:55
catxplosion
03:55
i just remembered our game does not have credits
03:55
lmao
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kinki9487 2024-08-26 04:14
no need xd
04:15
here's credit XDD
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 04:16
i mean the game my current company made
04:16
not ddnet
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kinki9487 2024-08-26 04:18
oh sry
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TsFreddie
i just remembered our game does not have credits
Cellegen 2024-08-26 04:27
lol wtf
04:27
Ahem, I mean feelsbadman
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TsFreddie
i just remembered our game does not have credits
Overlord 2024-08-26 05:30
Proof nobody reads those
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Milfey 2024-08-26 06:34
@abricotier de noix de coco if u reply, react, ping me or interact with me in any way, then i am grabbing my car and going towards ur home to kidnapp u
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abricotier de noix de coco 2024-08-26 06:36
Huh what did i do ?
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abricotier de noix de coco
Huh what did i do ?
Overlord 2024-08-26 07:08
U forgot to ping him, how do You expect him to read that?
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abricotier de noix de coco 2024-08-26 07:08
Xdxd
07:09
Not rly xxd
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Overlord 2024-08-26 07:09
<whispers> 'do it'
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abricotier de noix de coco 2024-08-26 07:09
Xd @Milfey
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abricotier de noix de coco
Xd @Milfey
Milfey 2024-08-26 07:10
im coming
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abricotier de noix de coco 2024-08-26 07:10
Yaay
07:11
Go Disneyland
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 07:16
@Overlord
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Overlord 2024-08-26 07:17
@TsFreddie
07:17
@TsFreddie I wish U wrote words as romantic, as @Milfey did towards abricotier
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Milfey 2024-08-26 07:18
lol
07:18
im on my way
07:18
stop pingin in traffic
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Overlord 2024-08-26 07:18
fella is both in game, and in traffic, mobile ddnet masterrace
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 07:22
Overlord.png
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Overlord 2024-08-26 07:24
TsFreddie.webp
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meloƞ 2024-08-26 07:53
Guys i did a thing
07:53
greenthing 1
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meloƞ
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Overlord 2024-08-26 07:56
Looks like the cube from wakfu
07:56
Do more cool things then go insane
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meloƞ
Click to see attachment 🖼️
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 07:58
pro
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meloƞ
Guys i did a thing
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 07:58
nice hand
07:59
today is my last day at work vibe
07:59
can't wait to spend more time on personal projects
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TsFreddie
today is my last day at work vibe
Overlord 2024-08-26 07:59
IMPOSSIBLE
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 07:59
(and gaming probably)
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TsFreddie
nice hand
meloƞ 2024-08-26 07:59
justatest
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Overlord 2024-08-26 08:00
Did U sanitize the pc?
08:00
Dont forget to purge it
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 08:00
now since i stopped working for salary. i'm kindly asking you to support me on patreon
08:01
@Ryozuki have you deadlocked
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meloƞ
justatest
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 08:02
vibe I can appreciate the beauty of hard working hands
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meloƞ 2024-08-26 08:05
owo greenthing
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dyrm 2024-08-26 08:05
АЙ МИШАНЯ🔥🔥💪 ЧИСТО В КОНДИЦИИ ВОШЕЛ🦁🦁🦁☝️АЙ ЛЕВ ГЛАВНОЕ ВОШЁЛ ТИХО И АККУРАТНЕНЬКО 🔥🔥🔥☝️☝️КРАСАВЧИК ДВИГАЕШЬСЯ РОВНЫМИ ДВИЖЕНИЯМИ АЙ ХОРОШ😈😈💪💪💪☝️🔥🦁🦁
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dyrm
АЙ МИШАНЯ🔥🔥💪 ЧИСТО В КОНДИЦИИ ВОШЕЛ🦁🦁🦁☝️АЙ ЛЕВ ГЛАВНОЕ ВОШЁЛ ТИХО И АККУРАТНЕНЬКО 🔥🔥🔥☝️☝️КРАСАВЧИК ДВИГАЕШЬСЯ РОВНЫМИ ДВИЖЕНИЯМИ АЙ ХОРОШ😈😈💪💪💪☝️🔥🦁🦁
meloƞ 2024-08-26 08:05
Gesundheit.
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meloƞ
Gesundheit.
dyrm 2024-08-26 08:05
Бахни лит енержи и будеш крутим литвегчикам
kek 2
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meloƞ
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Overlord 2024-08-26 08:13
also i forgot to report You, for using up company's resources
08:13
to gulag with U
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TsFreddie
now since i stopped working for salary. i'm kindly asking you to support me on patreon
Overlord 2024-08-26 08:14
just start selling feet pics, passive income
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Overlord
also i forgot to report You, for using up company's resources
meloƞ 2024-08-26 08:20
I paid 2€ :(
08:21
Also its for a German Thing called: Tag der offenen tür ( Young people visit the company with their Parents)
08:21
It Takes 6 Minutes to make one because im Just such a good programmer
08:21
gigachad
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meloƞ
Also its for a German Thing called: Tag der offenen tür ( Young people visit the company with their Parents)
Overlord 2024-08-26 08:23
did Ur parents come over?!
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Overlord
did Ur parents come over?!
meloƞ 2024-08-26 08:25
No :(
08:25
anyone in Here has a 3D Printer ?
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meloƞ
No :(
Overlord 2024-08-26 08:25
Im sorry, will take U later for an icecream?
08:25
deal big man?
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meloƞ
anyone in Here has a 3D Printer ?
Overlord 2024-08-26 08:26
i have 2 at work, but im not allowed to print
08:26
i assembled them
08:26
and maintain them
08:26
>_<
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meloƞ 2024-08-26 08:26
monkaStop
08:26
Since i Programmed it outside of my actual Work schedule ITS my property
08:26
I wanna See it 3D printed
08:27
And i can freely share the .step File
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meloƞ
Since i Programmed it outside of my actual Work schedule ITS my property
Overlord 2024-08-26 08:27
reminds me of that contract where, even in free time whatever programmer programs, belongs to company
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Overlord
reminds me of that contract where, even in free time whatever programmer programs, belongs to company
meloƞ 2024-08-26 08:27
Yeah lmao
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meloƞ
And i can freely share the .step File
Overlord 2024-08-26 08:27
step on me :l<content no longer avaliable> (edited)
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Overlord
step on me :l<content no longer avaliable> (edited)
meloƞ 2024-08-26 08:27
monkaStop pepe_holy
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Overlord 2024-08-26 08:28
either way, low quality 3d printers are cheap nowdays
08:28
basically costs as much as normal printer
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meloƞ 2024-08-26 08:28
Yeah i have one But i didnt Use IT for months And i need new Filament
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meloƞ
Yeah i have one But i didnt Use IT for months And i need new Filament
Overlord 2024-08-26 08:30
just make Ur own filament duh
08:30
plastic is everywhere!
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Overlord 2024-08-26 08:48
@Avolicious do You use identitiy brokering urself?
08:48
isnt that sure fire way to get locked out of accoutns "unassociated" with certain service?
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dyrm 2024-08-26 08:49
ай мишаня лев чиста в кагдиции вашел акуратненька без кипмша
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Overlord
@Avolicious do You use identitiy brokering urself?
Avolicious 2024-08-26 08:49
Currently not, no. We are planning to support discord natively as identity broker. So you can login with your discord instead of creating an account
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Overlord 2024-08-26 08:50
call me old fashioned, but I rather have speratae account for each thing
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dyrm 2024-08-26 08:50
АЙ МИШАНЯ🔥🔥💪 ЧИСТО В КОНДИЦИИ ВОШЕЛ🦁🦁🦁☝️АЙ ЛЕВ ГЛАВНОЕ ВОШЁЛ ТИХО И АККУРАТНЕНЬКО 🔥🔥🔥☝️☝️КРАСАВЧИК ДВИГАЕШЬСЯ РОВНЫМИ ДВИЖЕНИЯМИ АЙ ХОРОШ😈😈💪💪💪☝️🔥🦁🦁
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Overlord 2024-08-26 08:51
https://www.koffellaw.com/blog/google-ai-technology-flags-dad-who-took-photos-o/
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Google AI Flags Dad Who Took Photos of Son for Doctor | Koffel Brin...
Criminal defense attorneys at Koffel Brininger Nesbitt discuss the case of a California father flagged by Google AI technology after he took photos of his toddler for the doctor.
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what mixing accounts leads to
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Overlord
what mixing accounts leads to
dyrm 2024-08-26 08:51
Это кондиции для мишани?
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Overlord
call me old fashioned, but I rather have speratae account for each thing
Avolicious 2024-08-26 08:51
You can still create your account, but you can as well login with a unified account.
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dyrm
Это кондиции для мишани?
Overlord 2024-08-26 08:51
ja naturlisch, ich habe forgessen
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Overlord
ja naturlisch, ich habe forgessen
dyrm 2024-08-26 08:51
Сигмо
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Overlord 2024-08-26 08:51
@Avolicious btw things I couldnt ask, there because it was too offtopic
08:52
but why are infinitude amount of accounts is bad? aside from database repsonse time
08:52
atm we'rea already in "infinite accounts" mode as long as player finishes a map
08:52
with a different name
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Overlord
but why are infinitude amount of accounts is bad? aside from database repsonse time
Avolicious 2024-08-26 08:52
Database wont change tho
08:52
The lookup is super fast and wont change with 1k accounts to 2m accounts
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At some point you just need more disk space, but that should be doable 😄
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Overlord 2024-08-26 08:53
then aside from lack of encryption, there would be no problem to make accounts in game
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Overlord
then aside from lack of encryption, there would be no problem to make accounts in game
Avolicious 2024-08-26 08:53
The implementation.
08:53
We can only have server-sided accounts where we have the logic only server-side, no client-side.
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Overlord 2024-08-26 08:54
okay, one more question, what about old clients?
08:54
considering logic isnt server side only
08:54
then that's an issue
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 08:55
The one doesnt exclude the other. If you have an old client, then your client doesnt send this "automated" login request. You still have to send the "/login <code>" thing.
08:55
With the server-side approach we still have backwards comp
08:56
Modern clients just add convenient features, but I totally agree to only support the latest 3 major versions and drop the rest/send them a message that not all features are supported
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Overlord 2024-08-26 08:57
aight got it, as long as loggin'in wont be a tedious proces i can get behind that. so time to change f4 to f3 I guess...
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Avolicious
Modern clients just add convenient features, but I totally agree to only support the latest 3 major versions and drop the rest/send them a message that not all features are supported
Overlord 2024-08-26 08:57
I remember mods banning me for playing on 9.1 ddnet client, them thinking it's some rigged cheat one
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Overlord
I remember mods banning me for playing on 9.1 ddnet client, them thinking it's some rigged cheat one
Avolicious 2024-08-26 08:58
I dont recommend playing with super old clients. You miss a lot of security features.
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Наблюдатель 2024-08-26 08:58
Hi all, who have good gun puck?
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 08:58
DDNet 9 is a few years old.
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slengich 2024-08-26 08:59
pls discord kog chanel
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slengich
pls discord kog chanel
Avolicious 2024-08-26 08:59
Doesnt make any sense 😄
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Overlord 2024-08-26 08:59
i no longer do, i used that one because "mouse worked properly" compared to 13.2.2, now if i do play, i have the updated one...
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Avolicious
Doesnt make any sense 😄
slengich 2024-08-26 08:59
? im not english
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Overlord
i no longer do, i used that one because "mouse worked properly" compared to 13.2.2, now if i do play, i have the updated one...
Avolicious 2024-08-26 08:59
If you have bugs with the client, I'd recommend to report this issue. But staying on an old client forever doesnt make sense at all
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:00
@Overlord the ddnet implementation will have client support, somewhere in that over bloated thread the whole system is also explained xd
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@Overlord the ddnet implementation will have client support, somewhere in that over bloated thread the whole system is also explained xd
Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:00
But your final approach is the thingy with the central ddnet account thingy, no?
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But your final approach is the thingy with the central ddnet account thingy, no?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:01
mh kog can host an account server too. but generally you create an account on ddnet that can be used by any game server without lot of setup
09:01
u basically just need the public key of the account server
09:01
to verify the client certificate
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:02
But how we announce the public key? Via masterserver?
09:02
And is the account server OAuth2 compatible?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:02
no, the game server simply downloads it from the account server via https
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Avolicious
And is the account server OAuth2 compatible?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:02
no need for that
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:03
But how can we connect the user account with our current account system?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:03
the client requests the account server to sign* his certificate that he (the client) will send to the game server. additionally the account server adds a account_id (i64) to the cert extension the game server can verify that the cert the clients sends came from the account server and use the account_id to identify the user (edited)
09:04
the rest of the account system depends on the game server imeplementation
09:04
the account_id is unique and never changes
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:05
But why do we need this account server? The gameserver just needs the pub/priv keypair, no?
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:06
fucking hell, why are they still asking me to stay for another week
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TsFreddie
fucking hell, why are they still asking me to stay for another week
Overlord 2024-08-26 09:06
agree freddie!
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:06
i didn't
09:06
but they didn't back down
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Overlord 2024-08-26 09:06
@TsFreddie I have my last day of work 30.09
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:06
i might just not show up
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Overlord 2024-08-26 09:06
we can "finish together"
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:07
not that they could fire me (edited)
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Avolicious
But why do we need this account server? The gameserver just needs the pub/priv keypair, no?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:07
well the user has a session on the account server, this session is signed by the account server. if we just store key-pairs on the client, the user can loose his account (e.g. deleting the keys). or what is your question?
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not that they could fire me (edited)
Overlord 2024-08-26 09:07
You can just explain to them, that starting tomorrow your hourly rate is 400$/h
09:07
and if they're still willing
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:07
why are account #off-topic
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TsFreddie
why are account #off-topic
Overlord 2024-08-26 09:07
they're here for me so they dont spam there
09:07
i need to understand what they have in mind before i protest or agree
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:07
you are so popular
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Overlord 2024-08-26 09:09
no, i have autism
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Jupstar ✪
well the user has a session on the account server, this session is signed by the account server. if we just store key-pairs on the client, the user can loose his account (e.g. deleting the keys). or what is your question?
Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:11
In this bloated threat do you have a link to the approach? I guess I am not familiar with the final solution 😄 My current view: 1. The client generates a private/public key-pair on first launch & this is stored somewhere in the ddnet dir. 2. If the client joins a server it signs a challenge from the server to verify its him. 3. Server can now lookup in db or wherever if the key-id is bound to a user (edited)
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In this bloated threat do you have a link to the approach? I guess I am not familiar with the final solution 😄 My current view: 1. The client generates a private/public key-pair on first launch & this is stored somewhere in the ddnet dir. 2. If the client joins a server it signs a challenge from the server to verify its him. 3. Server can now lookup in db or wherever if the key-id is bound to a user (edited)
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:12
i think we talked about it on the dev channel more accurately maybe like here: https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1264965049764675644
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a test for what the game server does can be found here: https://github.com/Jupeyy/dd-pg/blob/0a9ff5de093eed218c5affcb2def77f4a40c8d03/accounts/bin/account-server/src/tests/full.rs#L70-L140
dd-pg/accounts/bin/account-server/src/tests/full.rs at 0a9ff5de093e...
don't use or read this code. Contribute to Jupeyy/dd-pg development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:13
Oh okay. I thought there is a dedicated final solution everyone agreed on 😦
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Where we can read the implementation details
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Oh okay. I thought there is a dedicated final solution everyone agreed on 😦
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:13
it is final
09:14
learath just didnt know about it before
09:14
the implementation is also mostly finished
09:14
rate limiting is the last problem to solve, but also the hardest
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:15
Okay, as long as its easy to maintain I dont mind having another service.
09:15
I just need a way to easily integrate it in the already existing solution
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Overlord 2024-08-26 09:15
@Jupstar ✪ rate limiting, as in force user computer, to do math? so the server is not overloaded with bilion of request at once?
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Overlord
@Jupstar ✪ rate limiting, as in force user computer, to do math? so the server is not overloaded with bilion of request at once?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:16
we talked about that in the account thread too, captchas are more effective. but once a captcha process is broken it's useless too so there isnt any real solution
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:17
are we doing the passkey thingy
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Avolicious
Okay, as long as its easy to maintain I dont mind having another service.
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:19
well let's say it like that. what you need to add is:
  • rebase to secure connections (QUIC)
  • download the current public key from the account server (this should be ez, bcs we want to write a lib for that, that automatically deals with it)
  • verify the user's cert using above pub key when the client enters the server (here again we'll have a lib that simply returns Option<AccountId>) Now you at least know that however AccountId is, he will stay AccountId forever. how you want to deal with name changes etc is basically up to you
09:19
for ddnet the current plan is to split account names from display names. that might be a bit more complex but then the user can directly play without database interaction etc.
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:20
god i love explaining how login works to my colleague
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TsFreddie
god i love explaining how login works to my colleague
Overlord 2024-08-26 09:20
doesnt it all depend on the system?
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Jupstar ✪
well let's say it like that. what you need to add is:
  • rebase to secure connections (QUIC)
  • download the current public key from the account server (this should be ez, bcs we want to write a lib for that, that automatically deals with it)
  • verify the user's cert using above pub key when the client enters the server (here again we'll have a lib that simply returns Option<AccountId>) Now you at least know that however AccountId is, he will stay AccountId forever. how you want to deal with name changes etc is basically up to you
Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:21
But DDNet users cant login on KoG right? Because they need a session on our account server
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Avolicious
But DDNet users cant login on KoG right? Because they need a session on our account server
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:21
you dont need any account server realistically
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Overlord
doesnt it all depend on the system?
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:21
but my colleague thought client sending an openid through http is enough "verification"
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But DDNet users cant login on KoG right? Because they need a session on our account server
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:21
u simply download the public key of ddnet's account server. the client will use his account details on ALL game servers
09:22
even if they dont provide accounts
09:22
so any server can use accounts for rcon or banning still
09:22
even if their gameplay doesnt require accounts
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:22
it's like jwt but not shit.
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dyrm 2024-08-26 09:23
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Jupstar ✪
u simply download the public key of ddnet's account server. the client will use his account details on ALL game servers
Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:23
I will checkout the implementation & then decide how to deal with it 😄
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TsFreddie
but my colleague thought client sending an openid through http is enough "verification"
Overlord 2024-08-26 09:23
dont worry, my email credentials, were being openly sent on at work network for 1.5 years (along with the previosu guy who worked on same position, WHO USED SAME CREDENTIALS)
09:23
never have i seen such negligence as I see at govermetn work
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Avolicious
I will checkout the implementation & then decide how to deal with it 😄
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:24
sure, i think the only real part someone has to understand is that there is a AccountId. this one is validated, and unique. and the client sends the same account id to all game servers, forever (signed by account server, which is the trust factor here). so u can always verify it's exactly this account playing in your server
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Overlord 2024-08-26 09:24
god, jupstar's trying to do everything, so we need separate accounts for trolling
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:24
same account id for all game servers
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Jupstar ✪
sure, i think the only real part someone has to understand is that there is a AccountId. this one is validated, and unique. and the client sends the same account id to all game servers, forever (signed by account server, which is the trust factor here). so u can always verify it's exactly this account playing in your server
Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:25
Technically speaking, I dont trust external services.
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Jupstar ✪
i think we talked about it on the dev channel more accurately maybe like here: https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1264965049764675644
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:25
is this the idea basically signing a payload -> you can use a pubkey to verify it is definitely signed by ddnet -> you can trust the payload
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Technically speaking, I dont trust external services.
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:26
well you gotta trust ddnet accounts server, or you have to host your own and tell the clients to use your URL in the client instead. these two options
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well you gotta trust ddnet accounts server, or you have to host your own and tell the clients to use your URL in the client instead. these two options
Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:27
Yeah, so my initial question was how to announce this account server to the client? Via https master?
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Or does the client needs to manually change it in the config?
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:27
probably just an config string and the default is ddnet.
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:28
Or will there be a popup on join asking the client to trust this account server?
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After he accepted, this account server with this public key, will be allowlisted
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But then key-rotation might be pain tho
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:30
i think the whole idea is to not having third-party setting up account servers?
09:30
why am I trying to convo. I don't even know what are we talking about. ignore me plz
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vibe
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imma try to enjoy my last week
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it was supposed to be my last day tho
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Overlord 2024-08-26 09:32
all i think about is
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multiple people using same device
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like You know, lots of audience are actual kids, and they dont have their privet pc (edited)
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it was supposed to be my last day tho
Overlord 2024-08-26 09:33
just dont show up tomorrow
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Yeah, so my initial question was how to announce this account server to the client? Via https master?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:35
the process is as follow:
  • client logs into the account server using email or steam, the account server will create an account if needed, else simply adds another session to the linked account
  • the client will keep a private key(for this session) and give the account server a public one for communication.
  • every few hours the client asks the account server to sign this session. the client asks the account server for a certificate (which includes the PUBLIC key of the client, remember the user stores the private key and this key is never leaked to anyone in best case), where the account server also adds the pub key of the client and adds the account_id to the cert, and signs this whole cert, this basically tells this cert is owned by that account)
  • this cert can be safely used by the client on all game servers. since it's signed by the account server's private key, someone need to hack the account server to create a fake sign. if the user looses his account details in worst case someone can fake the account for a few hours. but we also have a second mechanism that binds the users account to some detail that the client fetches from the windows registry (which makes it at least a bit safer). the cert is only stored in RAM, so can't be leaked easily(except for custom clients)
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:36
But how am I able to announce my own account server to the client?
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To have my own sessions
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Does DDNet terminate or delete existing accounts?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:37
i am a bit confused what you mean by that
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:38
client logs into the account server using email or steam, the account server will create an account if needed, else simply adds another session to the linked account
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If we decide to host our own account server
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the process is as follow:
  • client logs into the account server using email or steam, the account server will create an account if needed, else simply adds another session to the linked account
  • the client will keep a private key(for this session) and give the account server a public one for communication.
  • every few hours the client asks the account server to sign this session. the client asks the account server for a certificate (which includes the PUBLIC key of the client, remember the user stores the private key and this key is never leaked to anyone in best case), where the account server also adds the pub key of the client and adds the account_id to the cert, and signs this whole cert, this basically tells this cert is owned by that account)
  • this cert can be safely used by the client on all game servers. since it's signed by the account server's private key, someone need to hack the account server to create a fake sign. if the user looses his account details in worst case someone can fake the account for a few hours. but we also have a second mechanism that binds the users account to some detail that the client fetches from the windows registry (which makes it at least a bit safer). the cert is only stored in RAM, so can't be leaked easily(except for custom clients)
Overlord 2024-08-26 09:38
windows registry doesnt sound like linux at all
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:38
How can we tell the client to use our account server instead of ddnets?
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Is it stored in the https master?
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like account_server: https://account.kog.tw/
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Is it stored in the https master?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:38
that would be one option yes. but i strongly recommend simply using ddnet's account server
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that would be one option yes. but i strongly recommend simply using ddnet's account server
Overlord 2024-08-26 09:39
all power in the hands of the handful :0
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all power in the hands of the handful :0
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:39
i mean it's ddnet's client side implementation, it makes sense to only trust ddnet here
09:39
that way no email is leaked to third party game servers
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:40
??? Now I am confused
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Overlord 2024-08-26 09:40
true, but i dont like that U're gonna use unique indentifiers, be their registry values or hardware SN's
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:40
in fact we might even be able to obfuscate email
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true, but i dont like that U're gonna use unique indentifiers, be their registry values or hardware SN's
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:40
what?
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:40
Every server provider you connect to, gets your IP and other details as well. Every chat message is stored on this servers. So why dont let the user decide where he wants to "leak" stuff?
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Overlord 2024-08-26 09:40
Ur last sentence @Jupstar ✪ in that longer msg
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But how am I able to announce my own account server to the client?
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:41
you don't. it is supposed to work like ddnet's account server is the only server that signs keys
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Every server provider you connect to, gets your IP and other details as well. Every chat message is stored on this servers. So why dont let the user decide where he wants to "leak" stuff?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:41
because an email might contain real names
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:41
Well, if you wanna use DDNets account servers its fine. But server providers should be able to host their own account stuff
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:41
your gameserver verifies whether the client cert is signed by ddnet. if it is, you trust the cert the client sent you
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because an email might contain real names
Overlord 2024-08-26 09:42
true people make those, along with birthday in name too!
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your gameserver verifies whether the client cert is signed by ddnet. if it is, you trust the cert the client sent you
Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:42
What if the server provider doesnt trust ddnet?
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:42
then don't use ddnet probably
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:42
What if the server provider doesnt want a vendor lock-ion?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:42
u can still use your account system
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Jupstar ✪
u can still use your account system
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:43
he was asking how
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he was asking how
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:43
like now
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the connection will still be encrypted then
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so chat login is fine
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:43
xD user experience at its best
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I see
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like now
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:43
no, he says he does not want to verify the whether the cret is signed by ddnet
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:43
ddnet gives the best experience for all game servers (edited)
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the user doesnt need to create 20 accounts
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what do you want more
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:44
he does not trust ddnet signed session
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ddnet gives the best experience for all game servers (edited)
Overlord 2024-08-26 09:44
sounds very propagandist
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:44
he wants to sign his own session
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Overlord
sounds very propagandist
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:44
yeah but how is it better to create 20 accounts on 20 game servers
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:44
and i said he should just not use ddnet.
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:44
So go for federated accounts, lol
09:44
Same as OAuth2 standard does
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A user can login on ddnet with his google/discord whatever account
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dyrm 2024-08-26 09:45
аййй лев чиста в кандиции акуратненька вашел
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Same as OAuth2 standard does
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:45
oatuh2 is super bloated
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yeah but how is it better to create 20 accounts on 20 game servers
Overlord 2024-08-26 09:45
I asked this back when town hall make accounts topic was fresh, but then again, thing You guys dont understand is in MMO (not only rpg) people have different personas, and for that they need different accounts
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:45
But every server provider can manage it on their own
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Same as OAuth2 standard does
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:45
heinrich has a very firm stance of not trusting anything other than ddnet. he does not want any player to submit anything (email, ip) to any third party
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But every server provider can manage it on their own
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:45
well in oauth you also trust google or whatever
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:45
it would be hard to convince him
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:45
not much better than trusting ddnet
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Jupstar ✪
well in oauth you also trust google or whatever
Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:45
Its just federated
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I can still sign the data with my own private key
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:46
ye, heinrich would not want that probably
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:46
I have fallback options & can decide which account i terminate
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I am not locked into ddnets decision making on accounts
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:46
you would need to trust ddnet's session and decide whether you want that user to exists on your account system
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I am not locked into ddnets decision making on accounts
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:47
then don't use it
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that is what accounts will look like
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this is not going to change anymore
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then don't use it
Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:47
Yeah, sounds like the only solution
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:47
also yes, you can probably keep your current system and be fine.
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:47
another reason to add gores section to ddnet 😄
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in no world i'd ever create an account like kog does it
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Overlord 2024-08-26 09:48
I miss the times, when display name was all we had :(
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:48
But thats up to the service provider, no?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:48
in best case, i start steam and am logged in
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:48
If a service provider starts to monetize the game, its up to the service provider
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:48
that is what i'd call user experience
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in best case, i start steam and am logged in
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:48
true
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Overlord 2024-08-26 09:49
y-y-y-you guys play on steam?!
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:49
but i kinda think if you have a hard stance on not trusting ddnet for anything. you should probably just fork your client.
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ddnet did it
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not that teeworlds isn't trustworthy tho, but they did fork the client
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for their vision
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:50
could be worth a try
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but i kinda think if you have a hard stance on not trusting ddnet for anything. you should probably just fork your client.
Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:50
Yeah, sounds like a solution. Making it much more complicated for the users 😄
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another reason to add gores section to ddnet 😄
Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:51
Why is ddnet not doing it?
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Why is ddnet not doing it?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:51
i'd like to know too
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Yeah, sounds like a solution. Making it much more complicated for the users 😄
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:51
nah, it just complicated the kog.
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:51
if u find out ping me
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:51
Killing any competition in teeworlds esp. in your own client shouldnt be that hard tho
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TsFreddie
nah, it just complicated the kog.
DANIEL 2024-08-26 09:51
hello can u ban blocker please?
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Killing any competition in teeworlds esp. in your own client shouldnt be that hard tho
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:52
i agree, especially if the game mode is 99% ddrace anyway
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DANIEL
hello can u ban blocker please?
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:52
no. i only mod CHN servers. please go #✉-create-a-ticket and use the report button
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Jupstar ✪
i agree, especially if the game mode is 99% ddrace anyway
Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:52
Because default filters 😄
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:52
i meant gores is basically ddrace
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:52
And massive server spam
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:52
from game code
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:52
DDNet has over 1k servers up & running, with having a few hundreds empty
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:53
@Avolicious anyway, think about it, i can understand u want your own solution. but we want a solution that scales to all game servers
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if u absolutely dont want it, stay with your own
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:54
TeeworldsCN's pvp server could comeback if ddnet's account system is in place. I like it
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Overlord 2024-08-26 09:54
@TsFreddie good thing U didnt have those issues at work, afterall only 5 people in china, own that specific VR device, so no accounts needed
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 09:54
e.g. steam login requires the steam publisher key of ddnet (edited)
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so that wouldn't work
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@Avolicious anyway, think about it, i can understand u want your own solution. but we want a solution that scales to all game servers
Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:54
Thanks for the explanation tho!
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@TsFreddie good thing U didnt have those issues at work, afterall only 5 people in china, own that specific VR device, so no accounts needed
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:54
we have accounts in our game
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we have accounts in our game
Overlord 2024-08-26 09:54
im aware, that was the joke
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Avolicious 2024-08-26 09:55
Maybe a sumup would be great so others dont have to ask & other server providers also know how this system works 😄
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Discords chat is fast-paced, so this info will get lost pretty fast
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Discords chat is fast-paced, so this info will get lost pretty fast
Overlord 2024-08-26 09:55
impossible
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with super advanced discord search function, nothing is ever lost!
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even if You know exactly the words written, discord will look up everywhere and not find it!
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 09:58
user probably wouldn't care how the account system worked. it was designed to be completely invisible to steam users and only partially visible for regular builds
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DANIEL 2024-08-26 09:59
@TsFreddie ty it worked
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@TsFreddie ty it worked
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:00
Create a ticket is pathway to many abilities ... some consideted unnatural
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Create a ticket is pathway to many abilities ... some consideted unnatural
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:00
i should file a report to time you out
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@Jupstar ✪ i love it
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@Jupstar ✪ i love it
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:07
xd it's still too unstable, we tested it yesterday with 4-5 players. well the server was stable, but client needs some more work
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xd it's still too unstable, we tested it yesterday with 4-5 players. well the server was stable, but client needs some more work
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:08
ye. wait until you deployed it and found out it just does not work in CHINAH
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:08
sorrow
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:09
catxplosion is the client gonna be aware of multiple endpoints of the account server
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it's probably not a thing is it
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:09
generally it was implemented so that it could be
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:09
oh that's good then
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i should file a report to time you out
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:09
Try it
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:09
i never really used the account system outside of my vps setup
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:10
also master in chn still has problems. but partially bcs i couldn't find a chinese cdn that I could reasonable afford (edited)
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:10
@TsFreddie that is really sad to hear. it should be around as stable as the master server i guess
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the account server
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:11
there still are one or two chn players reporting not being able to see any servers per day.
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it's less than the 50 per day we used to get when my master2 expired
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InsaneCat
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:12
feelsbadman
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:12
when did murpi change pfp
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why isn't it sheep
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meloƞ 2024-08-26 10:13
Insanity Made new art
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It tuzi now
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:13
do i have to draw another derp murpi pfp
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why isn't it sheep
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:13
Murpi has never been a sheep, U probably think of Porpi
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I wonder how hard people will fight for namaless tee account name
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And etc
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:16
i thought account is meant to allow dup names
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:16
Maybe they do, but i aint gonna use same account id for trolling and being myself
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i thought account is meant to allow dup names
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:17
@Jupstar ✪ can you confirm or deny this
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meloƞ 2024-08-26 10:17
Account Name != Display name
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:17
so there still will be an account name?
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not just an assigned openid hex string?
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meloƞ
Account Name != Display name
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:17
Btw so people will still fake other people, except the points will be wrong?
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Btw so people will still fake other people, except the points will be wrong?
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:18
ye, but client should probably have player profile inspect before the whole system go live, otherwise it's pretty bad
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that's just my understanding tho
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meloƞ 2024-08-26 10:18
No Idea, Not that invested in Accounts
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meloƞ
No Idea, Not that invested in Accounts
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:19
ye, i love talking about account while knowing nothing about it too
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:19
Real humans dont want accounts :(
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TsFreddie
ye, i love talking about account while knowing nothing about it too
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:19
Same, is defienietly fun
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@Jupstar ✪ can you confirm or deny this
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:19
at least on ddnet, this is the plan. because that way the user can join a game server and even if the database is down it can still play and finish runs
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bcs the account information is what makes the rank the rank, and not the display name
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bcs the account information is what makes the rank the rank, and not the display name
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:20
is ID assigned or user provided
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meloƞ
Account Name != Display name
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:20
regarding to this
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TsFreddie
is ID assigned or user provided
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:20
assigned
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assigned
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:20
good
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:20
ah
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wait
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:20
I clearly cant understand the reasoning then, i thought jt was all about preserving peoples reputation etc
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:20
the account name is an additional thing that makes /rank and other stuff work
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without using ids
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it's auto assigned but can be changed
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:21
ah
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so there can still be one true nameless tee
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:21
yeah 😄
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:21
actually that might be an illegal id due to the space tho
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:21
yeah xd
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:22
if account name is designed to work better in command. (edited)
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:22
i hope chinese can write ASCII
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:22
banning space is probably the sensible thing to do
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:22
bcs it will be ascii only
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:22
and avoid the whole nameless tee thing
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Jupstar ✪
i hope chinese can write ASCII
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:22
They can write numbers no problem
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Jupstar ✪
i hope chinese can write ASCII
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:22
we can
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Overlord
They can write numbers no problem
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:22
ah true 😄
10:22
in worst case just numbers
10:22
they get a fancy auto name anyway
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"autouser<accountid>"
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:22
bruh we've been chatting in weird ASCII for years before IME is a thing in ddnet
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:22
Btw im a chinese myself
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:22
the only reserved account name
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Overlord
Btw im a chinese myself
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:23
great
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nihau
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:23
hao*
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:23
Po szy jemuan ma?
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Im adopted son of Sir Wang
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bcs it will be ascii only
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:23
one final question
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if someone really hated me so he quickly snatched "tsfreddie"
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can i appeal
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:24
No.
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Only U cant
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Rest will create a ticket
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can i appeal
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:24
-# for you maybe xdd No probably not
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Jupstar ✪
-# for you maybe xdd No probably not
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:25
that's sad actually
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:25
yeah but i can also create ea account and call it tsfreddie and u doomed xd
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meloƞ 2024-08-26 10:25
What about Admin/Moderator names
10:26
Faking them results in a kick/Ban
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:26
we are about to get @realdeen and @definitlymurpi
10:26
and @learath3 probably
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meloƞ
Faking them results in a kick/Ban
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:26
i dunno the current rule and dont want to judge, but you'll probably be auto logged into rcon, so it will visualize your different in scorebaord anyway
10:26
but i leave that part open
10:26
bcs that is a very ddnet specific question
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meloƞ
Faking them results in a kick/Ban
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:27
Get off ur high horse
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meloƞ
What about Admin/Moderator names
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:27
probably not enforceable if you really want it to be fair at launch. it's probably just a dilemma
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Overlord
Get off ur high horse
meloƞ 2024-08-26 10:27
Huh
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meloƞ
Huh
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:27
block him if you don't want to see nonsense
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TsFreddie
probably not enforceable if you really want it to be fair at launch. it's probably just a dilemma
meloƞ 2024-08-26 10:27
God Melon will be snacked away within 0.03 seconds
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TsFreddie
block him if you don't want to see nonsense
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:27
Tf? Thats possible?!
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:27
for account name?
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Jupstar ✪
for account name?
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:27
ye
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:27
i mean whatever you pick as account name, it will be unique
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meloƞ
God Melon will be snacked away within 0.03 seconds
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:27
More like melon my god
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:28
so if it's melon123, then the moderator will be melon123
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Jupstar ✪
i mean whatever you pick as account name, it will be unique
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:28
ye, but what if he can't be THE melon anymore
10:28
it probably does not feel good
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:28
the melon
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yeah yeah
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TsFreddie
ye, but what if he can't be THE melon anymore
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:28
They are literally going discord route of first come first serve
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TsFreddie
ye, but what if he can't be THE melon anymore
meloƞ 2024-08-26 10:28
I was the og Melon since 2009 :(
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Jupstar ✪
the melon
meloƞ 2024-08-26 10:28
angy
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meloƞ
I was the og Melon since 2009 :(
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:28
U must be rotten to the core by now
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Overlord
U must be rotten to the core by now
meloƞ 2024-08-26 10:29
Huh
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So rude
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Overlord
They are literally going discord route of first come first serve
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:29
yeah, better write your account create script now 😬
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Jupstar ✪
but i leave that part open
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:29
maybe just shoot mods a pre launch before it actually goes live to everyone
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Jupstar ✪
yeah, better write your account create script now 😬
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:29
Ach the scalper experience
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TsFreddie
maybe just shoot mods a pre launch before it actually goes live to everyone
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:29
Just like discord pay users?!
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TsFreddie
maybe just shoot mods a pre launch before it actually goes live to everyone
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:29
maybe.. would be a fair reward for the work of the moderators
10:29
but again
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:29
Tf is this wallstreet?!
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meloƞ 2024-08-26 10:29
Me omw to DM Heinrich every day to get my Name blacklisted on Launch
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:29
i am not the one to judge
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:29
U guys do insider trading
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meloƞ 2024-08-26 10:29
So noone gets to be melon
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:29
i am not related to ddnet actually
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Jupstar ✪
i am not the one to judge
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:29
totally understandable
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Jupstar ✪
i am not related to ddnet actually
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:30
To whom are U related?
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:30
i'll be sure to tag every admin before it went live
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lol
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:30
Hope its not my mom
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TsFreddie
i'll be sure to tag every admin before it went live
meloƞ 2024-08-26 10:30
poggers2
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Overlord
To whom are U related?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:30
to you my bae
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:30
is account name ddnet side?
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TsFreddie
is account name ddnet side?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:31
yes
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:31
ok then
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:31
but it will also have GUI
10:31
since ddnet first
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xd
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other game servers that use the same idea, can use the GUI too
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:31
can third-party opt-in ddnet account names
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Teero 2024-08-26 10:31
Fix all the bugs in pg first xd
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Teero
Fix all the bugs in pg first xd
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:31
yeah i should work
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Teero 2024-08-26 10:31
Should make a pure bug count in devhub xd
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Jupstar ✪
to you my bae
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:31
then, we can no longer, associate after dark, if we're related UwU
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:32
or does the payload only include internal id/openid
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Teero
Should make a pure bug count in devhub xd
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:32
do it pls
10:32
i am more open to it now
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Jupstar ✪
do it pls
Teero 2024-08-26 10:32
Make a thread in project
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:32
bcs the only bigger feature left is demo UI
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TsFreddie
can third-party opt-in ddnet account names
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:32
nope
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:32
ouch
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:32
not planned at least
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:33
probably due to signing being the account system side huh
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Teero 2024-08-26 10:33
I thought networks like kog could use the same accounts then
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:33
maybe as soon as we get a community server. but @TsFreddie the biggest challenge is simply to keep account names in sync if they can be changed
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I thought networks like kog could use the same accounts then
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:33
they use the same accountid
10:33
they could identify the user uniquely among other game servers
10:33
just not with the account name
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Teero 2024-08-26 10:33
ok
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:33
kog ties the names to ingame name anyway
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meloƞ
so yes i know they are the largest teeworlds community :D
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:34
@Jupstar ✪ and here my silly ass thought, this was the biggest challenge
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Jupstar ✪
maybe as soon as we get a community server. but @TsFreddie the biggest challenge is simply to keep account names in sync if they can be changed
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:34
if you include the account name in session (so it will be sync for a least a few hours) maybe
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i mean, it would be nice to make sure commands works the same across gameservers
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<BµmM> 2024-08-26 10:34
Just asking, since account and ingame name isnt really connected, does this mean a point reset isnt really needed?
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TsFreddie
if you include the account name in session (so it will be sync for a least a few hours) maybe
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:34
yeah but how to /rank work on other game servers for offline players?
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:35
i mean other servers probably have other commands
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<BµmM>
Just asking, since account and ingame name isnt really connected, does this mean a point reset isnt really needed?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:35
not needed, it's just hard to accociate every user with the account
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:35
psst, im the nameless tee
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:35
but having to /rank tsfreddie in a server and /rank realtsfreddie in another server is kinda bad
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:35
i did all those speedruns and crazy feats
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Jupstar ✪
yeah but how to /rank work on other game servers for offline players?
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:35
i don't know how offline players work for now
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i don't know how offline players work for now
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:36
/rank tsfreddie but you are not on the server
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or /ranka for accounts
10:36
we'll see
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:36
oh /ranka
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:36
ingame commands are a topic for it's own
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<BµmM> 2024-08-26 10:36
Even with hard reset u will have some trolls that steal names
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:36
i mean if account is available, i think i would make twcn servers to require ddnet account
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:36
if u currently online, u can probably simply use the display name
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<BµmM>
Even with hard reset u will have some trolls that steal names
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:36
even with accounts, U will ahve trolls faking <BumM> and going full racist
10:37
because if display name can be anything, nothing stops em
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Jupstar ✪
if u currently online, u can probably simply use the display name
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:37
i actually kinda hate naming the auth status online offline
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:37
/account_info <BumM>
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xd
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:37
how are you playing a multiplayer game offline lmao
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TsFreddie
how are you playing a multiplayer game offline lmao
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:37
locally :*
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TsFreddie
how are you playing a multiplayer game offline lmao
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:37
nah i mean if u are not on the game server rn
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:38
127.0.0.1 is the reason im failure in this life
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Jupstar ✪
nah i mean if u are not on the game server rn
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:38
i get that, maybe just change the terms a bit
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Overlord
127.0.0.1 is the reason im failure in this life
Teero 2024-08-26 10:38
There is no such place as 127.0.0.1
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Jupstar ✪
/rank tsfreddie but you are not on the server
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:38
but again, is /rank the same as what we currently have?
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Teero
There is no such place as 127.0.0.1
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:38
there is, look inside
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:38
and /ranka is rank using the openid info
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Teero 2024-08-26 10:39
127.0.0.1 is peace 127.0.0.1 is home 127.0.0.1 is love
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:39
each one of us has it, and mine has failed me or actually i failed it
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TsFreddie
and /ranka is rank using the openid info
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:40
as said that part isnt planned out.. maybe yes, maybe no
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:40
if that's the case i think it would probably be fine in a third party server if they really want to implement their /ranka. /rank probably does not even matter for new server after the account system is live i would imagine.
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:40
maybe it mixes it depending on who is on the game server
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Teero 2024-08-26 10:40
@TsFreddie you can join my 127.0.0.1 if you want owo (edited)
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:40
there would practically be no offline players if most players are steam users anyway
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:40
my first goal is to have ranks accociated with account info
10:40
if that works reliable
10:40
i retire
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xd
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:41
at least it probably won't affect what i had in mind with our servers
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TsFreddie
there would practically be no offline players if most players are steam users anyway
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:41
that's majority?!
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:41
but i do want /ranka tsfreddie to stay consistent across gameservers
10:41
so sharing account name is probably quite important for third-party
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:41
WTF
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there is so many of them?!
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Jupstar ✪
i retire
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:42
no, in unpaid projects You cannot retire!
10:42
what if they "maul, your child?!"
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Jupstar ✪
as said that part isnt planned out.. maybe yes, maybe no
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:43
sorry i keep having questions. is internal id also different per platform. like if I implemented the session verification, would the session's id be different than what ddnet gameserver sees?
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one final question
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:43
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TsFreddie
sorry i keep having questions. is internal id also different per platform. like if I implemented the session verification, would the session's id be different than what ddnet gameserver sees?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:44
sorry what?
10:44
there is no session id
10:44
account_id unique per account
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:44
i asked it cuz wechat's developer api does not give you the user's id to prevent you from tracking users across different apps. you can not know user1 on appA is the same user1 on appB (edited)
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:44
send to all game servers
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TsFreddie
i asked it cuz wechat's developer api does not give you the user's id to prevent you from tracking users across different apps. you can not know user1 on appA is the same user1 on appB (edited)
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:45
u can do that with ddnet accounts
10:45
no extra ids
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Jupstar ✪
account_id unique per account
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:45
unique per account sounds good to me.
10:45
wechat uses unique per account-app
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:45
if someone implements global bans, they would be banned anywhere xd
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:45
which is quite annoying in some cases
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Jupstar ✪
u can do that with ddnet accounts
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:46
please don't tell heinrich that we are allowing third-party to track users identities.
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:47
he backreads everything anyway
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Jupstar ✪
if someone implements global bans, they would be banned anywhere xd
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:47
bring more systems for the rulling fist to, squeeze us "harder daddy"
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:47
but realistically there is no server token so it's probably unreallistic to implement the wechat way anyway
10:47
lol
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Jupstar ✪
he backreads everything anyway
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:47
false
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:47
ok i delete the ping
10:47
to keep tsfreddie safe
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:47
redundant realistic words, great job freddie, your english is truly evolving
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:48
I once caught Heinrich unaware of an offtopic chat
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TsFreddie
redundant realistic words, great job freddie, your english is truly evolving
Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:48
some words in english simply suck
10:48
it's not you that is the problem
10:48
xd
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:48
I still have this as my core memory
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:48
nah, it's probably me if heinrich keeps DM me my mistake
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:48
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Overlord
Click to see attachment 🖼️
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:49
is that a dm leak
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kinki9487 2024-08-26 10:49
hi i just bubble here and nothing interrupt u
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TsFreddie
is that a dm leak
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:49
it is
10:49
but it's public DM
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:49
lmao imagine saying bubble in english
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kinki9487
hi i just bubble here and nothing interrupt u
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:49
bubble me all U want, as long as the water stays warm
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:49
Embedded image
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:49
i mean i get it and it is hilarious
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:50
he kinda cute
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10:50
should be an emoji
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Jupstar ✪
Click to see attachment 🖼️
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:50
i have an idea
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manikoo 2024-08-26 10:50
Sticker
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:51
@TsFreddie btw cant leak more but, also in that same conversation
10:51
I said I was nice to You the day before
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and he said "please dont do that"!
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@TsFreddie so after all those months, please rate my niceness
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Overlord
and he said "please dont do that"!
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:53
this is out of context, but hey!
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:54
catxplosion
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:54
nais
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:54
test
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:54
OMGH
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:54
lol
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-08-26 10:54
SO CUTIE
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:55
i hope there is an svg tho, cuz that image is kinda low res
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Overlord 2024-08-26 10:55
Just AI "png to svg "
10:55
Works decently
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:56
oh it is svg
10:56
i'm just dumb
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TsFreddie
i'm just dumb
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:56
Dude, nobody insults my adoptive father
10:56
Now I gotta beat Ur ass
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kinki9487 2024-08-26 10:57
i prefer the pfp before (edited)
10:58
:/
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kinki9487
i prefer the pfp before (edited)
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:58
:/ u cant BEAR not seeing it?
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kinki9487 2024-08-26 10:58
?
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:59
ok it's less blurry now
10:59
oops a little bit too low
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Overlord
:/ u cant BEAR not seeing it?
kinki9487 2024-08-26 10:59
sry but wdym (edited)
10:59
FUCK
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kinki9487
sry but wdym (edited)
Overlord 2024-08-26 10:59
I mean " you cannot BEAR to see it gone?"
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meloƞ 2024-08-26 10:59
Now do this one
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:59
oopsi
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meloƞ
Now do this one
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 10:59
no
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oopsi
meloƞ 2024-08-26 10:59
kek
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Overlord
I mean " you cannot BEAR to see it gone?"
kinki9487 2024-08-26 11:00
yeah 😦
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TsFreddie
no
meloƞ 2024-08-26 11:00
angy
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 11:00
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^ better heinrich
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angy
Overlord 2024-08-26 11:00
SPOILER
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kinki9487 2024-08-26 11:00
let heinrich have this xd
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 11:00
he probably wont
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Overlord 2024-08-26 11:01
Loool starting tomorrow im back to 8h a day scheldue
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 11:02
i should probably make myself a new tee
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Overlord 2024-08-26 11:02
Life is bad
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 11:02
after I quit my job (edited)
11:02
tomorrow
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TsFreddie
i should probably make myself a new tee
Overlord 2024-08-26 11:02
Make entire new tee world, like U know earth v2
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 11:03
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11:03
i made this in 2013
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manikoo 2024-08-26 11:04
trollet
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 11:05
this in 2022
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vibe time is weird huh
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Overlord 2024-08-26 11:05
evolution of a man
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from troll to peacefulness
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 11:06
this in 2021
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manikoo 2024-08-26 11:06
ddfat
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 11:06
this in 2020
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kinki9487 2024-08-26 11:06
wow
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TsFreddie
this in 2020
Overlord 2024-08-26 11:07
hey i know this one!
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kinki9487 2024-08-26 11:07
and when's the shirt xd
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Overlord
hey i know this one!
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 11:07
lmao
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kinki9487
and when's the shirt xd
Overlord 2024-08-26 11:07
his mom has it
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kinki9487 2024-08-26 11:07
?
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Overlord 2024-08-26 11:07
the weird thing is, his mom is not my grandma!
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kinki9487 2024-08-26 11:07
WTF HE IS A LOCATER
11:08
bruh
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Overlord 2024-08-26 11:08
"Bruv"
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 11:08
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11:08
my mom did have it
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kinki9487 2024-08-26 11:08
oh
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cool
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Overlord 2024-08-26 11:08
yeah, we know that one!
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 11:08
the new guy doesn't
11:08
lol
11:09
going home. brb
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Overlord 2024-08-26 11:09
he's chinese, how come he doesnt know what You do?!
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TsFreddie
going home. brb
Overlord 2024-08-26 11:09
already it's only 19:09
11:09
did U delete ntfs log file?
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Overlord
he's chinese, how come he doesnt know what You do?!
TsFreddie 2024-08-26 11:09
cuz i don't nearly share enough stuff there
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Overlord 2024-08-26 11:09
and eveything else?
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TsFreddie
cuz i don't nearly share enough stuff there
Overlord 2024-08-26 11:09
it was a jab, that chinese have a hive mind, and should know what others think (edited)
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^ proof that heinrich is not from asia
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 11:11
rare image of heinrich lying
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rare image of heinrich lying
Overlord 2024-08-26 11:13
I sometimes fear, that he can also read my messages on other platforms
11:19
@meloƞ less working, more moderating, have You seen what's going on at "TeeDdnet_v2033"?!! total anarchy
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dyrm 2024-08-26 11:36
скебед талчки
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zhn 2024-08-26 11:56
sic!
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Baran Nashor 2024-08-26 11:59
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Overlord 2024-08-26 12:00
arent ddrace players all sheeplee?
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@Cammodude i checked, I dont have copilto on my work pc. it
12:07
it is fully updated windows 11 home
12:07
not in domain
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Cammodude 2024-08-26 12:07
yeah, mines win 11 home too
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zhn 2024-08-26 12:08
copilto
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copilto
Overlord 2024-08-26 12:08
no wonder, bimbows cant find iT!
12:09
tbh copilto sounds kinda cute for a copilot
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Overlord
tbh copilto sounds kinda cute for a copilot
zhn 2024-08-26 12:09
ye^^
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Cammodude 2024-08-26 12:16
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Overlord 2024-08-26 12:25
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@Cammodude now idk if i should feel cheated by microsoft, or blessed
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Cammodude 2024-08-26 12:28
blessed, its less bloat
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zhn 2024-08-26 12:30
nazwa organizacji kek
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zhn
nazwa organizacji kek
Overlord 2024-08-26 12:31
:) no domain so it remains empty
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Cammodude
blessed, its less bloat
むぎ 2024-08-26 12:34
✅
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むぎ 2024-08-26 12:39
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12:39
i think i just deleted it
12:39
u cant do that on home perhaps?
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Cammodude 2024-08-26 12:39
man how did i get this unlucky
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むぎ 2024-08-26 12:39
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Teero 2024-08-26 12:46
Does racism help global warming? (edited)
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Teero
Does racism help global warming? (edited)
むぎ 2024-08-26 12:46
absolutely!
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Teero 2024-08-26 12:47
Here take the proof
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Teero
Here take the proof
むぎ 2024-08-26 12:48
Zaebis
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kinki9487 2024-08-26 12:50
500 IQ or -500 IQ?
12:50
or 500 IP?
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むぎ 2024-08-26 12:51
5
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Teero
Does racism help global warming? (edited)
Overlord 2024-08-26 12:53
As in help make it warmer or slow it down?
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Teero
Here take the proof
Overlord 2024-08-26 12:54
Insee we have similar hobby
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Overlord
As in help make it warmer or slow it down?
Teero 2024-08-26 12:54
idk the heated arguments could increase the temperature again
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Teero
Here take the proof
zhn 2024-08-26 13:01
too racist
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Overlord 2024-08-26 13:05
Or not enough
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むぎ 2024-08-26 13:40
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zhn 2024-08-26 14:10
kek
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むぎ 2024-08-26 14:14
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Overlord 2024-08-26 14:14
Translation, aside from musical prt?
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Overlord
Translation, aside from musical prt?
むぎ 2024-08-26 14:14
im in paris
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Overlord 2024-08-26 14:14
Krkw
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Kek
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Overlord
Translation, aside from musical prt?
zhn 2024-08-26 14:15
pavel durov (founder of telegram) was arrested in france
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Overlord 2024-08-26 14:16
Ik
14:16
I just had no idea what it says
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Братан братишка 2024-08-26 14:19
schoolboy got punished by his dad
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lol
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Overlord 2024-08-26 14:20
They dont look too human
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catzin 2024-08-26 15:20
why i cant play DDNet? (its on portugueese because im from brazil)
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catzin
why i cant play DDNet? (its on portugueese because im from brazil)
むぎ 2024-08-26 15:23
hi from brazil! (edited)
15:23
have u tried reinstalling game?
15:23
or verify integrity of game files
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:) 2024-08-26 15:32
всем привет
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:)
всем привет
むぎ 2024-08-26 15:32
hi!
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むぎ
hi!
:) 2024-08-26 15:32
i from russia
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:)
i from russia
むぎ 2024-08-26 15:32
cool
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:) 2024-08-26 15:33
a ti?
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むぎ 2024-08-26 15:33
?
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:) 2024-08-26 15:33
sekundy
15:34
Where are you from?
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むぎ 2024-08-26 15:34
i live on earth
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actually
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twinbop
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twinbop
Teero 2024-08-26 15:35
oh no wtf
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むぎ 2024-08-26 15:37
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twinbop
Learath2 2024-08-26 15:39
https://github.com/Daniel-Liu-c0deb0t/uwu
GitHub - Daniel-Liu-c0deb0t/uwu: fastest text uwuifier in the west
fastest text uwuifier in the west. Contribute to Daniel-Liu-c0deb0t/uwu development by creating an account on GitHub.
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むぎ
have u tried reinstalling game?
catzin 2024-08-26 15:42
ill try...
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むぎ
or verify integrity of game files
catzin 2024-08-26 15:44
how??
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catzin
how??
むぎ 2024-08-26 15:45
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catzin 2024-08-26 15:45
ok..
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catzin 2024-08-26 15:46
on DDNet or steam i find it?
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catzin
on DDNet or steam i find it?
むぎ 2024-08-26 15:46
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catzin 2024-08-26 15:46
oh ok
15:47
occured an error
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むぎ 2024-08-26 15:47
SMILE
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catzin 2024-08-26 15:48
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ill try put steam on english
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https://github.com/Daniel-Liu-c0deb0t/uwu
Overlord 2024-08-26 15:52
ok once im back home, its going to happen
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I was already a cat girl in teww"words Nya :3
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Now can unleash my inner retard without actually thinking!
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Overlord
I was already a cat girl in teww"words Nya :3
むぎ 2024-08-26 15:52
Shosuka
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Shosuka
Overlord 2024-08-26 15:53
@Blade come beat this fella up Nya :3
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むぎ 2024-08-26 15:53
HJUEHHWE3HE
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むぎ 2024-08-26 16:01
BRO 😭
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TsFreddie 2024-08-26 16:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JeLPL15Lvs
CCTV电视剧
24h马拉松直播🏃‍♂️【Eng Sub】《西游记Journey to the West 》师徒四人取经记【全40集】【CCTV电视剧...
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huh? (edited)
16:03
deadass gov media is now livestreaming monkey
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ForgottenCat 2024-08-26 16:12
think_bot
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Overlord 2024-08-26 16:40
Im lookinf at the monkey game
16:40
Somehow it reminds me of really old games
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Ewan 2024-08-26 17:10
portugueese
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gerest 2024-08-26 17:19
give me background for levels
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SMILE
catzin 2024-08-26 18:45
;-;
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;-;
むぎ 2024-08-26 18:47
ur disk is ok??
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justatest
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むぎ
ur disk is ok??
catzin 2024-08-26 18:47
idk ;-;
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fewasg1 2024-08-26 18:49
Кто тут русский и пойдёт на copy love box и не ток блокать?
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catzin
idk ;-;
むぎ 2024-08-26 18:49
https://sourceforge.net/projects/crystaldiskinfo/
CrystalDiskInfo
Download CrystalDiskInfo for free. A HDD/SSD utility software. A HDD/SSD utility software which supports a part of USB, RAID and NVMe.
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check if ur disk is alright
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fewasg1 2024-08-26 18:49
Кто тут русский и пойдёт на copy love box и не ток блокать?
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https://sourceforge.net/projects/crystaldiskinfo/
catzin 2024-08-26 18:50
ok?
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catzin
ok?
むぎ 2024-08-26 18:51
?
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fewasg1 2024-08-26 18:52
Кто тут русский и пойдёт на copy love box и не ток блокать?
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fewasg1
Кто тут русский и пойдёт на copy love box и не ток блокать?
むぎ 2024-08-26 18:52
да заебал
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да заебал
fewasg1 2024-08-26 18:52
Ебани рот
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Руссиш
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むぎ 2024-08-26 18:52
ты думаешь если напишешь 3 раза больше шансов что кто то ответит?
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fewasg1
Руссиш
むぎ 2024-08-26 18:52
не руссиш
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fewasg1 2024-08-26 18:52
A am anglih
18:52
Nod
18:52
A am inglih
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Am ne panimat vos
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catzin 2024-08-26 18:53
what i do here?
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fewasg1
A am inglih
texnonik 2024-08-26 18:53
justatest
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justatest
fewasg1 2024-08-26 18:53
Ебать
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catzin
what i do here?
むぎ 2024-08-26 18:53
did u install it?
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むぎ
did u install it?
catzin 2024-08-26 18:53
yes
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むぎ 2024-08-26 18:53
send screenshot
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texnonik
justatest
fewasg1 2024-08-26 18:53
Техноник?
18:53
Я скинуться пошел
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fewasg1
Техноник?
texnonik 2024-08-26 18:53
justatest
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fewasg1
Я скинуться пошел
むぎ 2024-08-26 18:53
пиздец
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позор
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пиздец
fewasg1 2024-08-26 18:54
Так я маму твою
18:54
В кино водил
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むぎ 2024-08-26 18:54
верю
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fewasg1 2024-08-26 18:54
На машине возил
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Кормил
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И тд
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send screenshot
catzin 2024-08-26 18:54
im on an site
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catzin
im on an site
むぎ 2024-08-26 18:54
so u did not install it
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catzin
im on an site
fewasg1 2024-08-26 18:54
Otebis pidor ebaniu
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catzin
im on an site
むぎ 2024-08-26 18:54
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download and install it
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catzin 2024-08-26 18:54
i alr downloaded
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fewasg1 2024-08-26 18:55
Довнаол
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Анб
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Инстал
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catzin 2024-08-26 18:55
so the app sended me on this site
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catzin
so the app sended me on this site
むぎ 2024-08-26 18:56
WHATAUTISTIC
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WHATAUTISTIC
catzin 2024-08-26 18:59
feelsbadman
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feelsbadman
むぎ 2024-08-26 18:59
bro just download and install it
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🥴
18:59
what app sent u on the site
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catzin 2024-08-26 18:59
is my disk ok now? (edited)
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むぎ 2024-08-26 18:59
what are u even talking about
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catzin
is my disk ok now? (edited)
むぎ 2024-08-26 19:00
Pepega (edited)
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catzin 2024-08-26 19:00
the app u sended me to download
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;-;...
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むぎ 2024-08-26 19:00
i cant
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i just cant
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thats
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thats too much for me
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catzin 2024-08-26 19:01
i will not play ddnet anymore?
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むぎ 2024-08-26 19:01
can u screenshare?
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catzin 2024-08-26 19:01
ok
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むぎ 2024-08-26 19:03
@catzin
19:03
open chat in voice chat
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むぎ 2024-08-26 19:28
that was tough one
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30min to reinstall ddnet
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Pepega
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ScReeNy 2024-08-26 19:48
mugichad
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HeroinFamaly 2024-08-26 19:53
кто на кобру 3?
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скамми лимано (ortem) 2024-08-26 20:40
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gerest 2024-08-26 21:03
лютый
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ягель питание оленей 2024-08-26 21:20
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manikoo 2024-08-26 21:59
чанчито помогатор
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уголек 2024-08-26 22:00
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дурак онлайн 2024-08-26 22:05
Есть у кого-нибудь шаблоны для скинов и для ганпаков
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дурак онлайн
Есть у кого-нибудь шаблоны для скинов и для ганпаков
уголек 2024-08-26 22:09
https://teedata.net
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дурак онлайн 2024-08-26 22:10
Респект
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Blade 2024-08-26 23:23
Omg! Where can I get this in Europe? I don't mind buying from china and waiting for shipping
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Overlord
@Blade come beat this fella up Nya :3
Blade 2024-08-26 23:25
Nya!
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Nya!
Overlord 2024-08-26 23:28
:3
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Blade
Omg! Where can I get this in Europe? I don't mind buying from china and waiting for shipping
Overlord 2024-08-26 23:28
Dude its his mom, and on top of that asians are no longer on sale
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