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Between 2024-08-12 00:00 and 2024-08-13 00:00

Shelzy

for a long time i have been having a constant stuttering problem that made it impossible to play on the client. i tried almost every method to fix it but none worked. although i found a solution not so comfortable but a solution anyway. the solution is to move applications that are in the background on the second screen to the main screen for example running opera on youtube on the second monitor makes me have stuttering until i move it to the main monitor. this only happens to me in ddnet, in any other game or app this does not happen to me, could it be a bug or a problem with my pc? (edited)

ok this is so old but the last update fix this

17:50

i just wanted to say it in case there was someone with the same problem and had not updated yet

jopsti why does my ddnet fail to load shaders only on vulkan backend and only when built by me

19:15

data folder it there and has the shaders in it (edited)

Ewan

jopsti why does my ddnet fail to load shaders only on vulkan backend and only when built by me

show cmake output

Ewan

data folder it there and has the shaders in it (edited)

the built shaders are only in the build data's dir

19:17

and they must end with spirv or smth like that

.spv?

yeah

Jupstar ✪

show cmake output

1s

1

sry

xd

not been on pc yet 2day

19:25

im on latest master

19:25

36.5 KB

19:27

this is game output up until browser stuff

2.56 KB

19:28

ewan@machine ~/d/ddnet (master)> ls ./data/shader/vulkan/
prim3d.frag  prim3d.vert  primex.frag  primex.vert  prim.frag  prim.vert  quadbo.vertfrag  quad.frag  quad.vert  spritemulti.frag  spritemulti.vert  text.frag  text.vert  tile_border.frag  tile_border.vert  tile.frag  tile.vert

no .spv (edited)

19:28

-- Building vulkan shaders
/home/ewan/ddnet/ddnet/data/shader/vulkan/quad.vert
-- Finished building vulkan shaders

? xD

19:29

builds 1 shader

Ewan

ewan@machine ~/d/ddnet (master)> ls ./data/shader/vulkan/
prim3d.frag  prim3d.vert  primex.frag  primex.vert  prim.frag  prim.vert  quadbo.vertfrag  quad.frag  quad.vert  spritemulti.frag  spritemulti.vert  text.frag  text.vert  tile_border.frag  tile_border.vert  tile.frag  tile.vert

no .spv (edited)

is that the build dir?

oop

Ewan

builds 1 shader

yeah dunno thats just a cmake output bug

19:29

apparently it can only display the log from one cmd

prim3d.frag               primex.frag.spv                   primex.vert             prim.vert.spv                quad_textured.frag.spv     spritemulti_push.vert.spv  tile_border.frag               tile.frag.spv
prim3d.frag.spv           primex_rotationless.frag.spv      primex.vert.spv         quad.frag                    quad_textured.vert.spv     spritemulti.vert           tile_border.frag.spv           tile_textured.frag.spv
prim3d_textured.frag.spv  primex_rotationless.vert.spv      prim.frag               quad.frag.spv                quad.vert                  spritemulti.vert.spv       tile_border_textured.frag.spv  tile_textured.vert.spv
prim3d_textured.vert.spv  primex_tex.frag.spv               prim.frag.spv           quad_push.frag.spv           quad.vert.spv              text.frag                  tile_border_textured.vert.spv  tile.vert
prim3d.vert               primex_tex_rotationless.frag.spv  prim_textured.frag.spv  quad_push_textured.frag.spv  spritemulti.frag           text.frag.spv              tile_border.vert               tile.vert.spv
prim3d.vert.spv           primex_tex_rotationless.vert.spv  prim_textured.vert.spv  quad_push_textured.vert.spv  spritemulti.frag.spv       text.vert                  tile_border.vert.spv
primex.frag               primex_tex.vert.spv               prim.vert               quad_push.vert.spv           spritemulti_push.frag.spv  text.vert.spv              tile.frag

19:29

weird

Ewan

prim3d.frag               primex.frag.spv                   primex.vert             prim.vert.spv                quad_textured.frag.spv     spritemulti_push.vert.spv  tile_border.frag               tile.frag.spv
prim3d.frag.spv           primex_rotationless.frag.spv      primex.vert.spv         quad.frag                    quad_textured.vert.spv     spritemulti.vert           tile_border.frag.spv           tile_textured.frag.spv
prim3d_textured.frag.spv  primex_rotationless.vert.spv      prim.frag               quad.frag.spv                quad.vert                  spritemulti.vert.spv       tile_border_textured.frag.spv  tile_textured.vert.spv
prim3d_textured.vert.spv  primex_tex.frag.spv               prim.frag.spv           quad_push.frag.spv           quad.vert.spv              text.frag                  tile_border_textured.vert.spv  tile.vert
prim3d.vert               primex_tex_rotationless.frag.spv  prim_textured.frag.spv  quad_push_textured.frag.spv  spritemulti.frag           text.frag.spv              tile_border.vert               tile.vert.spv
prim3d.vert.spv           primex_tex_rotationless.vert.spv  prim_textured.vert.spv  quad_push_textured.vert.spv  spritemulti.frag.spv       text.vert                  tile_border.vert.spv
primex.frag               primex_tex.vert.spv               prim.vert               quad_push.vert.spv           spritemulti_push.frag.spv  text.vert.spv              tile.frag

nice

19:29

start your exec from build dir

19:30

inside build dir i mean

??

cd build

19:30

./DDNet

y does that work justatest

justatest

19:30

yea

19:30

im here and its working

19:30

that's crazy

sadly we dont have GLSL compiler built into client

19:30

else it could compile on fly

i thought it should find data dir based on executable path

was that the case before?

19:31

there recently was someone with a similar situation

19:31

i honestly dunno, i never did that

Jupstar ✪

was that the case before?

idk what the behavior was, that's just what makes sense to me

19:32

game working shouldnt rely on cwd

well it relies on storage.cfg

19:32

and that contains a relative path

19:32

probs to working dir

yea

19:33

that seems problematic

19:34

now how excited are u to help me figure out why video output doesn't update on exclusive fullscreen justatest

justatest

19:34

works on gl

i assume you are still on wayland?

yea

you could try removing CONF_PLATFORM_ANDROID in backend_vulkan.cpp. I recently read wayland also allows to destroy the surface of an active app. I couldn't repro on KDE

19:37

maybe your window manager acts differently

19:37

other than that i have no idea. Maybe it's some SDL thing

lets see

19:38

undefing it?

19:39

should be off anyway

19:39

wdym remove

remove the #ifdefs

19:39

like activating that code

k

19:40

no difference sad

peace in rest (edited)

19:41

i dunno

19:41

install windows

xd

what is your sdl version?

2.30.4 (compiled = 2.30.4)

have u tried simply running steam version?

19:42

it comes with different sdl version

steam ver uses xwayland

i think

19:42

but u can force

19:42

SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland

lmc

ok nvm

19:43

steam also uses my local version

19:44

which is weird

19:44

considering there is a libSDL2 in the steam files

19:45

SDL version 2.30.5 (compiled = 2.0.6) ok

19:45

maybe it is the right version

19:45

and the deens compile script uses the wrong one

19:45

bcs i doubt we use 2.0.6 xd

yea i dunno

19:45

cant seem to pass envvar to game via steam

19:45

SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland steam steam://rungameid/412220?

i'd just start whole steam process with env var xd

024-08-12 19:46:41 I console: executing 'settings_ddnet.cfg'
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I client: adding 72.204.22.162:6629 to favorites
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I sdl: SDL version 2.30.5 (compiled = 2.0.6)
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I gfx: unable to init SDL video: wayland not available
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I gfx: setting resolution to 640x480 and trying again
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I sdl: SDL version 2.30.5 (compiled = 2.0.6)
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I gfx: unable to init SDL video: wayland not available
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I sdl: SDL version 2.30.5 (compiled = 2.0.6)
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I gfx: unable to init SDL video: wayland not available
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I gfx: out of ideas. failed to init graphics
2024-08-12 19:46:41 E client: couldn't init graphics

Ewan

024-08-12 19:46:41 I console: executing 'settings_ddnet.cfg'
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I client: adding 72.204.22.162:6629 to favorites
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I sdl: SDL version 2.30.5 (compiled = 2.0.6)
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I gfx: unable to init SDL video: wayland not available
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I gfx: setting resolution to 640x480 and trying again
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I sdl: SDL version 2.30.5 (compiled = 2.0.6)
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I gfx: unable to init SDL video: wayland not available
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I sdl: SDL version 2.30.5 (compiled = 2.0.6)
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I gfx: unable to init SDL video: wayland not available
2024-08-12 19:46:41 I gfx: out of ideas. failed to init graphics
2024-08-12 19:46:41 E client: couldn't init graphics

oh wow

19:47

that is surprising

ya

justatest

i am sure it worked before

19:48

mh

19:48

tja

how to debug

19:48

i wanna be fullscreen vulkan gamer

./DDNet "dbg_gfx 4"

19:48

install vulkan validation layers

19:48

otherwise the cmd is kinda useless

ok

19:51

hmmm

19:52

2024-08-12 13:51:40 I vulkan_debug: Validation Warning: [ BestPractices-PushConstants ] Object 0: handle = 0x7ffeb49360d0, type = VK_OBJECT_TYPE_COMMAND_BUFFER; | MessageID = 0x1248c6a4 | vkCmdDrawIndexed():  Pipeline uses push constants with 80 bytes, but byte 36 was never set with vkCmdPushConstants.

lots and lots and lots of this

19:52

unending

ah yeah

19:52

u can search for vulkan_debug in the cpp file and deactivate warnings

19:52

they are kinda annoying

19:52

btw you can also start ddnet with VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/lvp_icd.x86_64.json ./DDNet

19:52

then it uses lavapipe

Ewan

2024-08-12 13:51:40 I vulkan_debug: Validation Warning: [ BestPractices-PushConstants ] Object 0: handle = 0x7ffeb49360d0, type = VK_OBJECT_TYPE_COMMAND_BUFFER; | MessageID = 0x1248c6a4 | vkCmdDrawIndexed():  Pipeline uses push constants with 80 bytes, but byte 36 was never set with vkCmdPushConstants.

lots and lots and lots of this

also i think they are false positives

19:53

r u on arch?

nixos

is it up to date like arch?

Jupstar ✪

btw you can also start ddnet with VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/lvp_icd.x86_64.json ./DDNet

where does this come from

Jupstar ✪

is it up to date like arch?

reasonably

Ewan

where does this come from

from me, myself an i

well

Ewan

reasonably

ok, i am just asking bcs i'd need to test with latest validation layers, b4 reporting smth that is already fixed xd (edited)

nix has a store where it keeps all packaged files w/o depending on a normal sysroot layout

19:54

so i cant do /usr/whatever

oh ok

found

19:55

ewan@machine ~/d/d/build (master)> nix-locate "lvp_icd.x86_64.json"
mesa.drivers                                        203 r /nix/store/wis0bx9jxzcklxpmh1lhsg325g70wxns-mesa-24.1.2-drivers/share/vulkan/icd.d/lvp_icd.x86_64.json

epyc cmd

ah yeah, totally normal path xd

Jupstar ✪

btw you can also start ddnet with VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/lvp_icd.x86_64.json ./DDNet

how can i verify this is working? still says my gpu name

then it aint working

hm

r u sure u still on vk

19:57

possible that the failing start changed it

VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/nix/store/wis0bx9jxzcklxpmh1lhsg325g70wxns-mesa-24.1.2-drivers/share/vulkan/icd.d/lvp_icd.x86_64.json ./DDNet

...
2024-08-12 13:56:00 I gfx: GPU vendor: NVIDIA
2024-08-12 13:56:00 I gfx: GPU renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
2024-08-12 13:56:00 I gfx: GPU version: Vulkan 1.3.278 (driver: 555.58.2.0)
...

cat the json

19:58

meow

{
    "ICD": {
        "api_version": "1.1.278",
        "library_path": "/nix/store/wis0bx9jxzcklxpmh1lhsg325g70wxns-mesa-24.1.2-drivers/lib/libvulkan_lvp.so"
    },
    "file_format_version": "1.0.0"
}

mhhhh

19:59

wtf going on in your setup xd

19:59

well maybe it's nvidia black magic

19:59

maybe they ship a custom vk loader or smth

what are u expecting

19:59

o

19:59

maybe im missing a vulkan pkg

2024-08-12 21:57:58 I gfx: Created Vulkan 1.1 context.
2024-08-12 21:57:59 I gfx: GPU vendor: Mesa
2024-08-12 21:57:59 I gfx: GPU renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 17.0.6, 256 bits)
2024-08-12 21:57:59 I gfx: GPU version: Vulkan 1.3.278 (driver: 0.0.1)

19:59

i dont think so

20:00

vulkaninfo | grep -A1 driverName (edited)

WARNING: [Loader Message] Code 0 : loader_add_layer_properties: 'layers' tag not supported until file version 1.0.1, but /run/opengl-driver/share/vulkan/implicit_layer.d/nvidia_layers.json is reporting version 1
        driverName                                           = NVIDIA
        driverInfo                                           = 555.58.02

wow

20:01

/run/opengl-driver/share/vulkan/implicit_layer.d/nvidia_layers.json

20:01

that hurts my feeling

lol

20:01

afaik nixos ogl stuff is very odd

20:02

they make some ideological compromises to support it

20:03

since having vendored libs & different paths is non deterministic

20:03

https://mynixos.com/search?q=nixpkgs%2Fpackage+vulkan these are my options as far as extra pkgs go. yes ddnet vulkan is working but there may be a runtime/client aspect to it as well

but isnt nvidia + wayland very shitty anyway?

very tolerable on my setup

20:03

hyprland

20:04

very good for a change

ls /run/opengl-driver/share/vulkan/icd.d/

20:04

if that exists

also i was using nvidia optimus before where i'd pass my dgpu thru only when needed and it was amazing. only issue is it would cause bad perf on xwayland and no way to fix

20:05

dzn_icd.x86_64.json  intel_hasvk_icd.x86_64.json  intel_icd.x86_64.json  lvp_icd.x86_64.json  nouveau_icd.x86_64.json  nvidia_icd.x86_64.json  radeon_icd.x86_64.json  virtio_icd.x86_64.json

there is lvp_icd.x86_64.json again xdd

20:05

maybe try that version

ewan@machine ~/d/d/build (master)> readlink /run/opengl-driver/share/vulkan/icd.d/lvp_icd.x86_64.json
/nix/store/wis0bx9jxzcklxpmh1lhsg325g70wxns-mesa-24.1.2-drivers/share/vulkan/icd.d/lvp_icd.x86_64.json

it aint gonna scammed

i tried just for fun and same results

nix-shell -p vulkan-tools lavapipe --run "VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/run/opengl-driver/share/vulkan/icd.d/lvp_icd.x86_64.json vulkanInfo" | grep driverName

20:07

ok that is gpt

20:07

dont trust

is this

20:07

yea

20:07

xddd

20:08

that's adding the pkgs vulkan-tools lavapipe

20:08

so ill add them and retry

5. System-Wide Configuration (Optional) If you want to set Lavapipe as the default Vulkan implementation system-wide, you can modify your configuration.nix: nix { hardware.opengl.setLdLibraryPath = true; hardware.opengl.driSupport = true; hardware.opengl.driSupport32Bit = true; hardware.opengl.package = pkgs.mesa_drivers; } This will ensure that Mesa (including Lavapipe) is preferred over proprietary drivers like NVIDIA.

20:08

but yeah dunno

20:08

if u want to fuck ur config

20:09

in non-exclusive fullscreen it works?

yea

Jupstar ✪

but isnt nvidia + wayland very shitty anyway?

Fun fact: Intel + Nvidia 555+ on Wayland when running DDNet w/ Intel GPU & Vulkan backend =

[bgiovanni@Botti-Laptop build]$ SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland ./DDNet
2024-08-12 22:06:30 I engine: running on unix-linux-amd64
2024-08-12 22:06:30 I engine: arch is little endian
2024-08-12 22:06:30 I engine: operating system version: Linux 6.10.4-arch2-1 (x86_64, #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun, 11 Aug 2024 16:19:06 +0000); "Arch Linux"
<snip>
2024-08-12 22:06:30 I sdl: SDL version 2.30.6 (compiled = 2.30.5)
2024-08-12 22:06:30 I gfx: Created Vulkan 1.1 context.
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I gfx: GPU vendor: INTEL
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I gfx: GPU renderer: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 (WHL GT2)
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I gfx: GPU version: Vulkan 1.3.278 (driver: 24.1.5)
wp_tearing_control_manager_v1#46: error 0: Tearing control object already exists!
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I vulkan: vulkan error: The device surface presentation modes could not be fetched.
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I sound: sound init successful using audio driver 'pulseaudio'
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I http: libcurl version 8.9.1 (compiled = 8.9.0)
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I textrender: Freetype version 2.13.2 (compiled = 2.13.2)
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I joystick: 0 joystick(s) found
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I assert: /home/bgiovanni/Projects/ddnet/src/engine/client/backend_sdl.cpp(167): Graphics Assertion:
The device surface presentation modes could not be fetched.
Failed during initialization. Try to change gfx_backend to OpenGL or Vulkan in settings_ddnet.cfg in the config directory and try again.
warning: queue "mesa vk display queue" 0x72fc1c001230 destroyed while proxies still attached:
  wl_buffer#61 still attached
  wl_buffer#59 still attached
  wl_buffer#57 still attached
  wl_buffer#55 still attached
  wl_buffer#53 still attached
  wp_tearing_control_v1#52 still attached
Illegal instruction (core dumped)

:o

kek

jupsti when fix

DynamoFox

Fun fact: Intel + Nvidia 555+ on Wayland when running DDNet w/ Intel GPU & Vulkan backend =

[bgiovanni@Botti-Laptop build]$ SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland ./DDNet
2024-08-12 22:06:30 I engine: running on unix-linux-amd64
2024-08-12 22:06:30 I engine: arch is little endian
2024-08-12 22:06:30 I engine: operating system version: Linux 6.10.4-arch2-1 (x86_64, #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun, 11 Aug 2024 16:19:06 +0000); "Arch Linux"
<snip>
2024-08-12 22:06:30 I sdl: SDL version 2.30.6 (compiled = 2.30.5)
2024-08-12 22:06:30 I gfx: Created Vulkan 1.1 context.
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I gfx: GPU vendor: INTEL
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I gfx: GPU renderer: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 (WHL GT2)
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I gfx: GPU version: Vulkan 1.3.278 (driver: 24.1.5)
wp_tearing_control_manager_v1#46: error 0: Tearing control object already exists!
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I vulkan: vulkan error: The device surface presentation modes could not be fetched.
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I sound: sound init successful using audio driver 'pulseaudio'
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I http: libcurl version 8.9.1 (compiled = 8.9.0)
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I textrender: Freetype version 2.13.2 (compiled = 2.13.2)
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I joystick: 0 joystick(s) found
2024-08-12 22:06:31 I assert: /home/bgiovanni/Projects/ddnet/src/engine/client/backend_sdl.cpp(167): Graphics Assertion:
The device surface presentation modes could not be fetched.
Failed during initialization. Try to change gfx_backend to OpenGL or Vulkan in settings_ddnet.cfg in the config directory and try again.
warning: queue "mesa vk display queue" 0x72fc1c001230 destroyed while proxies still attached:
  wl_buffer#61 still attached
  wl_buffer#59 still attached
  wl_buffer#57 still attached
  wl_buffer#55 still attached
  wl_buffer#53 still attached
  wp_tearing_control_v1#52 still attached
Illegal instruction (core dumped)

mhh The device surface presentation modes could not be fetched.

20:10

wtf

chat gpt did that awesome thing again

20:10

       error: attribute 'lavapipe' missing

       at /nix/store/c3mvqwig0j8j06s5zgpim6p07hbfka4v-source/flake.nix:21:13:

           20|             pkgs.vulkan-tools
           21|             pkgs.lavapipe
             |             ^

20:10

tl;dr no such package exists

try mesa_drivers

20:10

instead

20:10

i trust gpt 80

im sure it would work but that's relatively involved & missing the end goal

yeah tbh dunno what to do

20:11

if it works on x11 and xwayland

oh lolol im an idiot

gta 6 before accounts before wayland gets stable

Ewan

chat gpt did that awesome thing again

dont feed chatgpt nix, it'll devour it and spit out anything but code kekw

kekw

Jupstar ✪

gta 6 before accounts before wayland gets stable

feelsbadman

my system wide graphics config

2.68 KB

btw Ewan are you actually running NixOS ? or another distro with just nix

VK_DRIVER_FILES = /run/opengl-driver/share/vulkan/icd.d/nvidia_icd.x86_64.json;

xddd

meloƞ

btw Ewan are you actually running NixOS ? or another distro with just nix

yea

ok nvm, question answered

20:13

XDD

so i can temporarily undo that... snouldnt setting it on the cmd line b4 invocation still override tho

20:14

normal env var

Jupstar ✪

mhh The device surface presentation modes could not be fetched.

The Nvidia driver is stealing the wp_tearing_control_v1 (https://wayland.app/protocols/tearing-control-v1#wp_tearing_control_manager_v1:request:get_tearing_control) singleton object of a surface during Vk device enumeration when it's called by the Vk loader. Then if the Intel driver is selected by DDNet when it legitimately tries to tell the compositor to allow tearing it requests the same wp_tearing_control_v1 object that the Nvidia driver stole previously and the wayland compositors error out.

Tearing control protocol | Wayland Explorer

A better way to read Wayland documentation

DynamoFox

The Nvidia driver is stealing the wp_tearing_control_v1 (https://wayland.app/protocols/tearing-control-v1#wp_tearing_control_manager_v1:request:get_tearing_control) singleton object of a surface during Vk device enumeration when it's called by the Vk loader. Then if the Intel driver is selected by DDNet when it legitimately tries to tell the compositor to allow tearing it requests the same wp_tearing_control_v1 object that the Nvidia driver stole previously and the wayland compositors error out.

The introduced this new lovely feature with the Nvidia 555 series iiirc

why do you even have such insight into what is happening xD

i think tearing outright was added in 555

20:16

er no

r u like a wayland dev or smth

thats explicit sync

vkgears errors out as well if I run it with MESA_VK_WSI_PRESENT_MODE=immediate

i want to love wayland but the amount of issues it creates completely squanders any potential benefits xd

The Nvidia driver really can't avoid stealing singleton objects :c

Ewan

i want to love wayland but the amount of issues it creates completely squanders any potential benefits xd

i try that since 4 years

they say it gets better eventually

Ewan

thats explicit sync

Yes, it's related to that

you somehow always fall back to x11 for now :c - i hope it gets stable at some point

meloƞ

you somehow always fall back to x11 for now :c - i hope it gets stable at some point

tbh x11 is default rn

i wanna use cosmos as my DE, which won't (doesnt plan on) supporting x11 (edited)

DynamoFox

tbh x11 is default rn

for DDNet

what i rly want is for xwayland to work on optimus. then i can use near flawless amdgpu driver for nearly everything...

ok guys it's happening

20:18

i switch to wayland now

justatest

1

1

NOOOOOOOOOO

Just pick a random wayland compositor for testing purposes

20:19

No need to "switch"

but it has some issue where the game reports good/normal perf but the window itself looks/feels shitty and choppy. maybe igpu bottlenecking or smth

20:19

but only xwayland...

Jupstar ✪

i switch to wayland now

gl

ok

20:19

im on wayland now

20:19

chromium works

20:19

epyc

tbh on amd it should be fine

i had those issues on nvidia, after changing to amd everything was fine

aside from fundamental stupids

meloƞ

i had those issues on nvidia, after changing to amd everything was fine

yea but im not about to buy a new gpu

well "everything" screentearing was a thing for some godforsaken reason

Ewan

yea but im not about to buy a new gpu

yeah thats fair XD

man cpp version builds so fast

20:20

xd

meloƞ

well "everything" screentearing was a thing for some godforsaken reason

i mean, it's off by default

20:21

but u prob want it for ddnet

Jupstar ✪

man cpp version builds so fast

poggers2

wayland increasing buildtime???

how do i know if wayland was chosen?

20:21

as videodriver

hard to say

meloƞ

poggers2

wayland increasing buildtime???

no but rust xddd

Ah lol, my compositor shows that when window switching xd

but what i can ssay is SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland ./DDNet works for me

20:22

no issues

i decorate xwayland windows differently in my hyprland config

Jupstar ✪

but what i can ssay is SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland ./DDNet works for me

Go OpenGL

20:22

wait, which distro is this one?

debian iirc

9k FPS again

20:22

much better than X11

Let's see if they drugged GLEW :p

i am on debian

20:22

i think that was broken there

20:23

very beautiful popup

Image attachment

20:23

GLES works fine

Yes, it did for me as well.

i brb reboot, to see if lavapipe wins

lavapipe?

Additionally if you do (unset DISPLAY && ./DDNet) w/o SDL_VIDEODRIVER it should complain about x11 being unavailable.

but i am a bit annoyed that fullscreen on wayland doesnt minimize

20:26

amdvlk works fine too

weird

20:26

2024-08-12 14:25:47 I gfx: GPU vendor: Mesa
2024-08-12 14:25:47 I gfx: GPU renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 17.0.6, 256 bits)
2024-08-12 14:25:47 I gfx: GPU version: Vulkan 1.3.278 (driver: 0.0.1)

Ewan

2024-08-12 14:25:47 I gfx: GPU vendor: Mesa
2024-08-12 14:25:47 I gfx: GPU renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 17.0.6, 256 bits)
2024-08-12 14:25:47 I gfx: GPU version: Vulkan 1.3.278 (driver: 0.0.1)

epyc

freezes still!

20:26

vk thing

20:26

not driver ig

20:26

try hyprland jopsti... it's rly good

20:26

and then u may see my issue

2024-08-12 22:26:31 I gfx: GPU vendor: AMD
2024-08-12 22:26:31 I gfx: GPU renderer: AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX (RADV NAVI31)
2024-08-12 22:26:31 I gfx: GPU version: Vulkan 1.3.278 (driver: 24.1.4)

driver 0.0.1 ???XD (edited)

% SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/lvp_icd.x86_64.json ./DDNet works for me

20:27

2024-08-12 22:26:53 I gfx: Created Vulkan 1.1 context.
2024-08-12 22:26:53 I gfx: GPU vendor: Mesa
2024-08-12 22:26:53 I gfx: GPU renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 17.0.6, 256 bits)
2024-08-12 22:26:53 I gfx: GPU version: Vulkan 1.3.278 (driver: 0.0.1)

ya

20:27

we are on same page

SDL_VIDEO_MINIMIZE_ON_FOCUS_LOSS=0

20:28

man this should be default 1

lol i actually get playable fps even w software renderer

20:28

200

lmao

i personally submitted the issue for that on sdl and they accepted it, but on wayland it doesnt work xD

Ewan

lol i actually get playable fps even w software renderer

ofc, CPUs arent thaaat bad xd

ah gg i cleared my nix store, time to download 2GB of packages into my direnv again just to delete it in 2 days

Jupstar ✪

ofc, CPUs arent thaaat bad xd

im on 4k

meloƞ

ah gg i cleared my nix store, time to download 2GB of packages into my direnv again just to delete it in 2 days

gg indeed

Ewan

im on 4k

oh wow

20:29

ur cpu is better than mine then :c

4K with 200fps is wild

r9 7900X

damn

even in entities i only get 240

didnt know you're cool like that

and i have 16 cores

ya

20:30

im 12/24

mhh 240 is so close to my monitor refresh rate

20:30

i smell a scam

xd

lets see what my 7950X can do

global vsync is on by default

20:31

idk how to turn it off on plasma

20:31

but enable tearing and u get no vsync

20:31

can still turn on per-game

20:31

caveman explanation

here learn german

Image attachment

20:31

best settings

ah

20:32

nice

yeah it's capped on 240

meloƞ

yeah it's capped on 240

aha, scam

but i could play like this no issue

yeah

i think i can tear even in windowed justatest

justatest

but i want to know max fps xd

20:32

on 16 cores

i rather not stress my poor cpu

time to swtich back to x11

16 core 7950X benchmark using DDNet

if ur on sw that's probably it. oh shit i should mention ddnet is actually rendering 1440

20:33

cuz scale factor stuff

20:33

forgot

20:34

which, idk how to get around. i poked around a bit and when i set video mode to native res manually it does work, but SDL only returns pre-divided display modes

I enabled tearing in my compositor and w/o Vsync I get 1k fps but I see no tearing whatsoever

harold

DynamoFox

I enabled tearing in my compositor and w/o Vsync I get 1k fps but I see no tearing whatsoever

yea, only noticeable on lower fps afaik

Ewan

which, idk how to get around. i poked around a bit and when i set video mode to native res manually it does work, but SDL only returns pre-divided display modes

so ig u can do some stupid re-multiplication by scale factor until SDL wins

20:35

but that's... well, stupid

meloƞ

16 core 7950X benchmark using DDNet

how did ewan get more than 240 fps then

20:35

i think ewan is the scammer

20:35

on lower res i get 400 fps

20:35

so it's not clamped

are u on gpu?

20:35

xdd

Ewan

are u on gpu?

lavapipe

it was steady 240 for me on pipe

i should clarify i got 200 on lvp at 1440p

meloƞ

it was steady 240 for me on pipe

yeah but try lower res

20:36

i bet u suddenly have 400 fps

will do

Ewan

i should clarify i got 200 on lvp at 1440p

and 400 on 4k? XD

no,

"I am needed, I GO ALL IN"

laughs in 1K fps on 1440p

with lavapipe?

20:37

wow

20:37

in entities?

nah, 300 in entities, depends on map tho

20:37

but yeah on lavapipe

720p give me ~550 fps

20:38

that is like better than most intel iGPUs xdddd

AXAXA

20:38

2K fps on 720p

20:38

suckeeer

meloƞ

2K fps on 720p

no fcking way

well 1.8

ur CPU is not 4 times as fast

it jumps between 1.6K and 1.8K

i feel scammed

20:38

by all of u

i see 5k fps for a brief moment when i enter fullscreen (on gpu)... maybe it is actually working in fullscreen for a sec

Image attachment

meloƞ

Click to see attachment 🖼️

watafak

20:40

1000 fps

Image attachment

1

20:40

i am soo cool

xd

that's on gpu

Image attachment

meloƞ

that's on gpu

only 9k?

nice

(it's capped to 10K)

that must be a bugg

20:40

ah

i hate that pipe whimmering of my gpu

20:40

so i usually set it to 1K

i swear to everything i got 12k fps 2 years ago on wayland

20:41

now it struggles to even 9k

20:41

all these CPU security fixes must have really hurt the perf

xd

i loose 4K fps in fullscreen

20:41

smh

which wm

KWin (hate me)

hm

20:42

weird

meloƞ

i loose 4K fps in fullscreen

try to press ALT + SHIFT + F12

what's that

nothing happening

meloƞ

nothing happening

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1209626236356268075

20:47

friendly remainder to past you

20:48

but chiller hit 20k on 4k on 4090 i think xd

20:48

but entities

4090

feelsbadman

20:48

we must defer to ryo for max perf

20:49

he has the gentoo

but too bad hardware xd

he has the same hardware as i do

20:49

iirc

meloƞ

he has the same hardware as i do

he has like rtx 4080

20:49

and only 6 cores or smth

20:49

xd

20:49

maybe he upgraded

20:49

dunno

i'm 99% sure we have the same cpu

20:50

he mentioned it somewhere

I think 5950x3d or smth?

20:51

o

20:51

7900X3D

Image attachment

20:52

i have the 7950X, other than that it's the same

mine on steroids

meloƞ

i have the 7950X, other than that it's the same

nice

20:52

and he is on 1080p

how

144hz masterrace

but rtx 3080

20:52

bro that is like stone age

crythumbsup

20:52

XDD

seems like a waste

i assume he upgraded his CPU leaving his old GPU in

What should I do if I was sitting on the map farming time at worst, but the game froze and later crashed and is not on the server now?

i feel like the 3060 can run like any game at 1080p 144

! svyato4ka.ru

What should I do if I was sitting on the map farming time at worst, but the game froze and later crashed and is not on the server now?

cry

! svyato4ka.ru

What should I do if I was sitting on the map farming time at worst, but the game froze and later crashed and is not on the server now?

i guess nothing anybody can do tbh

Ewan

cry

I have already

! svyato4ka.ru

What should I do if I was sitting on the map farming time at worst, but the game froze and later crashed and is not on the server now?

if the server changed map and your tee lost it's timeout protection, its joeover :(

I tried the same thing but some mf kicked me

Ewan

i feel like the 3060 can run like any game at 1080p 144

yeah but only at like 99% GPU usage xd i try to not use my GPU above 80%

I even said in my name I was going for top -1 don't kick

meloƞ

if the server changed map and your tee lost it's timeout protection, its joeover :(

sadly

Jupstar ✪

yeah but only at like 99% GPU usage xd i try to not use my GPU above 80%

fair

it just jumps from like 200 watts to 300 xd

20:54

300+ xdd

! svyato4ka.ru

What should I do if I was sitting on the map farming time at worst, but the game froze and later crashed and is not on the server now?

-4,5h

but it sounded like u were afk most of the time

who delete

Jupstar ✪

but it sounded like u were afk most of the time

yes it is, but it’s still sad to waste time like this

20:59

no result

why did it even crash in first place

21:00

did u play other games or smth

21:00

did it show any error

Jupstar ✪

did u play other games or smth

Well, yes

Jupstar ✪

did it show any error

I just wrote that the app is not responding when I tried to open it

meloƞ

if the server changed map and your tee lost it's timeout protection, its joeover :(

on another client the person changed the map :p (edited)

feelsbadman

meloƞ

144hz masterrace

when im back to germany i want to get even more hz, I actually consider buying a Fast-TN panel with 200+ hz, but then its 1080p again. My two 1440p IPS panels kinda suck, one is definitely ghosting a bit, annoying, but ididnt nerd out on GtG values before. Alternatively i could get an OLEd panel, i kinda want to, because high hz, good GtG and good resolution, but im scared of this burn in thing. Imagine mermydon_glowcoala bruned in in the middle of my screen permanently cuz 6h teeworlds every day. GG

Gumba

when im back to germany i want to get even more hz, I actually consider buying a Fast-TN panel with 200+ hz, but then its 1080p again. My two 1440p IPS panels kinda suck, one is definitely ghosting a bit, annoying, but ididnt nerd out on GtG values before. Alternatively i could get an OLEd panel, i kinda want to, because high hz, good GtG and good resolution, but im scared of this burn in thing. Imagine mermydon_glowcoala bruned in in the middle of my screen permanently cuz 6h teeworlds every day. GG

how can one dislike mermydon_glowcoala beeing burned into your desktop to stare at you when the desktop is shut down and you're lying in bed and the light from the window mildly reflects it and you feel watched

1

The 540hz Zowie Fast-TN panel (1080p) seems like an absolute banger for ddnet, but way to expensive and shti resolution for all other tasks

big L take but.. i dont care about 4K at all

Gumba

when im back to germany i want to get even more hz, I actually consider buying a Fast-TN panel with 200+ hz, but then its 1080p again. My two 1440p IPS panels kinda suck, one is definitely ghosting a bit, annoying, but ididnt nerd out on GtG values before. Alternatively i could get an OLEd panel, i kinda want to, because high hz, good GtG and good resolution, but im scared of this burn in thing. Imagine mermydon_glowcoala bruned in in the middle of my screen permanently cuz 6h teeworlds every day. GG

if u buy oled, report how well it works xd

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