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GitHub BOT 2024-07-23 05:30
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8635 support arm64 build

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egyt BOT 2024-07-23 06:10
тя
Replying to @Ryozuki how do u pronounce tja?
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Аз зімрІе аз тнат
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zhn 2024-07-23 07:38
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-23 08:12
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8636 Fix team number and team size rendering
Fix team number and team size rendering outside of the scoreboard when the team is rendered on both sides. Fix team number and team size alignment. Fixes #8633.

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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 08:53
@Robyt3 curl is not a pinned version in the android script right?: build-android-libs/compile_libs/curl/lib/idn.c:37:10: fatal error: 'idn2.h' file not found
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@Robyt3 curl is not a pinned version in the android script right?: build-android-libs/compile_libs/curl/lib/idn.c:37:10: fatal error: 'idn2.h' file not found
Robyt3 2024-07-23 08:58
No, I think most Android libs are build on latest master. Should probably pin some versions that work, or the same that the client uses on other platforms
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 08:58
yeah manually switched the branch now and works
08:59
even tho i agree with pinning, i mostly didnt do it back then, bcs then deen would need to update the scripts too when updating libs xd
08:59
but if we get ddnet-libs integration that should be fine i guess
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mold: error: undefined symbol: __res_init >>> referenced by std.2af8c09dce0047da-cgu.07 >>> x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/debug/libddnet_engine_shared.a(std-91d92f3a80092f54.std.2af8c09dce0047da-cgu.07.rcgu.o):(std::sys::pal::unix::net::on_resolver_failure::hf1914f0e712e9fa0) mh interesting: 1. interesting that it uses mold to compile 2. not so interesting that i get a compile time error that i dont understand xD
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i assume u've never seen that before
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mold: error: undefined symbol: __res_init >>> referenced by std.2af8c09dce0047da-cgu.07 >>> x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/debug/libddnet_engine_shared.a(std-91d92f3a80092f54.std.2af8c09dce0047da-cgu.07.rcgu.o):(std::sys::pal::unix::net::on_resolver_failure::hf1914f0e712e9fa0) mh interesting: 1. interesting that it uses mold to compile 2. not so interesting that i get a compile time error that i dont understand xD
Robyt3 2024-07-23 09:03
No, haven't seen it before. Google has various potential fixes/reports for it though (edited)
09:04
Did you maybe miss running a configure script that exists now?
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Robyt3
Did you maybe miss running a configure script that exists now?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:05
what? what is that
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 09:06
Some repos might still have separate autogen.sh or other scripts to generate additional source/header files
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:06
i'll first try without mold now.. i find it bit annoying that our cmake script changes linker priority anyway
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doesnt seem like it should be manually done
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mh didnt help rip
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Robyt3
Some repos might still have separate autogen.sh or other scripts to generate additional source/header files
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:08
yeah but it really sounds like a rust bug
09:09
well related to our rust code
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 09:09
https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/73426
Error while compiling rustc for android · Issue #73426 · rust-lang/...
In termux/termux-packages#5387 termux/termux-packages#5420, I tried to update termux's (a sort of mini linux distro as an android app) Rust version to 1.44 from 1.42 1.43.1, but I was getting a...
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:09
i try nightly
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32bit gives even weirder errors: ld.lld: error: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/debug/libddnet_engine_shared.a(ddnet_engine_shared-a432234d37677268.05k6yrd7x6qeo8lukhce6gc2o.rcgu.o) is incompatible with elf_i386
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like why does it even choose x86_64
09:12
same on arm
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and arm64
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 09:13
I'll try, haven't rebuild my libraries since I got it working
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:13
ah this is already ddnet building
09:13
the libs worked fine
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 09:14
hm, that's odd
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:14
but yeah i used git checkout curl-8_8_0 for curl
09:14
rest worked
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-23 09:14
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
5f8e274 Fix team number and team size rendering - archimede67 b7e1af4 Merge pull request #8636 from archimede67/fix-teamcount-rendering - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8636 Fix team number and team size rendering
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #8633 Team member count is outside scoreboard
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hm, that's odd
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:14
yeah super odd: mold: fatal: ddnet_engine_shared-a432234d37677268.05k6yrd7x6qeo8lukhce6gc2o.rcgu.o: incompatible file type: arm64 is expected but got x86_64 mold is a bit clearer
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 09:15
Did you setup cargo-ndk and add the rustup targets?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:16
i followed the android readme
09:16
yes
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 09:16
weird, so seems related to some default settings being used differently for you
09:17
It's always using lld linker for me
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:18
ah
09:18
apparently i was on rust nightly before
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i switched to stable again, now it at least goes into creating the apk
09:18
where it fails too xd
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 09:18
How does that step fail?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:19
apparently it searches for java17 for whatever reason
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 09:19
hmm, should work it can find java 21 as well though
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Robyt3
hmm, should work it can find java 21 as well though
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:19
does it only work with 21?
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 09:19
it always prints some warnings about the java location for me but those can be ignored (that's the recommended solution from the internet)
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:20
yeah now it works, i use java 21 default now
09:20
perfect
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so rust stable it is for now.. i wonder why tho
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do we manually check some stuff about rust in our cmake or whatever?
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 09:21
list(APPEND PLATFORM_LIBS dl) # for Rust this line seems to apply to linux+rust but not to Android due to the elseif
09:22
maybe adding it to the block above would help, maybe it's included in TW_ANDROID_LIBS which is defined somewhere else though
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:22
mold: error: duplicate symbol: /home/jupeyy/Android/Sdk/ndk/26.3.11579264/toolchains/llvm/prebuilt/linux-x86_64/lib/clang/17/lib/linux/libclang_rt.builtins-arm-android.a(fixunssfdi.c.o): armv7-linux-androideabi/release/libddnet_engine_shared.a(compiler_builtins-33541d770eea3a97.compiler_builtins.de41643f9cd834e3-cgu.033.rcgu.o): __fixunssfdi arm still fails btw
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but different issue
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Robyt3
maybe adding it to the block above would help, maybe it's included in TW_ANDROID_LIBS which is defined somewhere else though
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:24
i can try that after linking finished
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 09:24
Maybe also the other list(APPEND PLATFORM_LIBS rt) # clock_gettime for glibc < 2.17 since your error message seems to contain rt
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:30
nice, the game and touch controls generally work
09:32
@Robyt3 so the x86_64 still fails
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rt lib doesnt even exist
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removed that line, get the old errors
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arm64 still says that it detects the runtime wrongly
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i dunno if that is a nightly thing, but we can also add a warning to the android build script to use stable rust
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 09:34
yeah, could be added to the readme
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:40
mobile is so hard 😬
09:40
but nice
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 09:41
yeah, it takes some times
09:41
also, hide the extra buttons to see more
09:42
I much prefer the direct touch input though
09:42
at least for a phone sized device
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:43
i trust forgottencat, he said arms in the way, now i see that they are in the way xdd
09:43
i have a phone with 120hz, that is quite nice.. looks really smooth
09:43
input delay seems okish too
09:44
feels better on most laptops i played on yet
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:53
epyc, tutorial finished
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Souly 2024-07-23 09:53
pro
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:53
9 minutes and 28 seconds
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beat me
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Souly 2024-07-23 09:53
send
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:54
here
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arm64
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DNet.apk
48.88 MB
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Souly 2024-07-23 09:54
virus
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:54
yep
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Souly 2024-07-23 09:54
dummy net apk
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 09:55
yeah dunno why it said DNet xd
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epyc, tutorial finished
<BµmM> 2024-07-23 10:01
when release
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:03
soonish™️
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:04
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10:04
im just that good
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:04
keyboard cheater
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:04
no U
10:04
btw it feels really nice to play lol
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:04
with scrcpy i finish it in 3min
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:04
oh no check chat
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:05
yeah yeah i trust u
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:05
6 mins 30s
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:05
i used the joystick touch tho
10:05
much harder to aim xd
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:05
time to play noby fng with that troll
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time to play noby fng with that troll
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:05
no joke
10:05
u'll get banned
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:05
it was kinda hard to move tbh
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:05
bcs of aimbot
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:05
ye ik
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so ye i thought its gonna be something like the old android version that we had
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but this
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is just so much better
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seems to run smooth
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<BµmM> 2024-07-23 10:06
is it going to be for iphone and android?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:06
guess
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apple closed ecosystem
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or android open source
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Ewan 2024-07-23 10:07
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<BµmM>
is it going to be for iphone and android?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:07
apple charges like 100$ per year sadly
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:07
Here's the beta version for all arches (extract the first file with 7zip).
DDNet-e261ab1-beta.7z.001
70 MB
DDNet-e261ab1-beta.7z.002
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:07
i doubt the interest in that app is huge enough
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apple charges like 100$ per year sadly
<BµmM> 2024-07-23 10:07
ye i know that cammostripes
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Robyt3
Here's the beta version for all arches (extract the first file with 7zip).
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:07
is that a debug build
10:07
why is it so giant
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:07
It's release
10:08
Debug is almost twice as large
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murpi 2024-07-23 10:08
Since we're mobile now, lets go full pay2win
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:08
Maybe my linker is not so good at merging the libs
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:08
5$ per hook
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10$ per shot
10:08
else finish without those, nobo
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murpi 2024-07-23 10:09
Say goodbye to Raid Shadow Legends, and hello to DDraceNetwork!
poggers2 2
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:09
The PR adds touch for all platforms that support it, so now it the time to port this to PS Vita justatest
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Maybe my linker is not so good at merging the libs
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:09
you need LTO
10:09
then it should decrease
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Jupstar ✪
apple charges like 100$ per year sadly
Souly 2024-07-23 10:10
we gotta find someone to sponsor it
twthis 1
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:10
like... apple?
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Ewan 2024-07-23 10:10
peak
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:11
for providing basically nothing
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peak
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cammostripes
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boomer
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:11
justatest
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using chat on that was funny
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Souly
using chat on that was funny
<BµmM> 2024-07-23 10:12
no
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:12
@Robyt3 play store would have the advantage that the apks are split again
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so not 130mb to download lmao
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@Robyt3 have you seen that our curl impl currently loads a ca certificate? back when i first did the port, curl didnt get android system certs, i dunno if that changed.. but that is defs a small problem, bcs then the certs get expire i think
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@Robyt3 have you seen that our curl impl currently loads a ca certificate? back when i first did the port, curl didnt get android system certs, i dunno if that changed.. but that is defs a small problem, bcs then the certs get expire i think
Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:15
yeah, I think it should be possible without copying the cert: https://stackoverflow.com/a/52305133
How to make SSL peer_verify work on Android?
I've successfully built libcurl-7.36.0 with openssl-1.0.1h on Android. I ran a sample code to test HTTPS connection. The SSL_VERIFYPEER is enabled by default. The certificates path on Android is /s...
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yeah, I think it should be possible without copying the cert: https://stackoverflow.com/a/52305133
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:16
ah nice
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-23 10:16
<ChillerDragon> @matricks
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<ChillerDragon> is he still here? xd
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:17
yes but u didnt ping him
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-23 10:17
<ChillerDragon> sagde
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<ChillerDragon> can u ping him for me uwu
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:17
mtrcks
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try that
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-23 10:17
<ChillerDragon> scared much
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<ChillerDragon> @mtrcks
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<ChillerDragon> did that work?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:17
lol
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did not
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tja
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-23 10:18
<ChillerDragon> bruv im gonna write him an email then
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:18
yeah sry that i am scared
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i am shy
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Souly
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Teero 2024-07-23 10:18
close xd (edited)
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-23 10:18
<ChillerDragon> no worries
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Teero 2024-07-23 10:18
It is so hard xd
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DJing while going left/right + hook is impossible xd
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:19
How many fingers do you use on the control keys? I use three fingers
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:19
ye i had to do some weird claw grip
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Teero 2024-07-23 10:19
XD
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:19
zooz
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Teero 2024-07-23 10:19
Ahahha
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:19
😬
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:19
idk how to throw people with this
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manikoo 2024-07-23 10:19
gigachad
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-23 10:20
<ChillerDragon> sus
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:21
it took really long to get banned tho
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i expected it to ban instantly
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@Jupstar ✪ how do i switch to that funny aiming wheel thing
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:21
i did it in f1 console, but maybe robyte also has gui for it
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:22
#8632
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DDNet BOT 2024-07-23 10:22
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/8632
Add ingame touch controls by Robyt3 · Pull Request #8632 · ddnet/dd...
Add new client component CTouchControls for playing the game with touch inputs. The touch controls can be enabled/disabled with the config variable cl_touch_controls, which defaults to 1 on Android...
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:22
ooh oke
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:22
There are some more buttons in the ingame menu when you have touch controls enabled
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:22
@Souly press ESC
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then there is a checkbox
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:22
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:22
ESC = return btn
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:22
you can also long press the menu button to open the menu
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:23
@Robyt3 the Active: hook button has a weird hitbox btw.. almost as if i have to hit the text instead of btn xd
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:24
got it
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@Robyt3 the Active: hook button has a weird hitbox btw.. almost as if i have to hit the text instead of btn xd
Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:25
should be the same as the other buttons though. only the joystick hitbox itself is weird since it's a square around the rendered circle
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maybe it's some OS function interfering with you
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you can change the fullscreen mode to windowed so status bar and system menu are always shown, maybe that prevents it from detecting something as a gesture (edited)
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should be the same as the other buttons though. only the joystick hitbox itself is weird since it's a square around the rendered circle
Teero 2024-07-23 10:27
Yea I often accidentally click outside it and miss the hook. Would be nice to be able to adjust the size and position.
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-23 10:27
<ChillerDragon> @Souly 0.7 hand support is going well justatest
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<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1721730425.png
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Teero 2024-07-23 10:28
Also a kill button would be nice. Having to go ESC->kill is annoying xd
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Also a kill button would be nice. Having to go ESC->kill is annoying xd
Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:28
I didn't want to make it too easy to do it accidentally though
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Yea I often accidentally click outside it and miss the hook. Would be nice to be able to adjust the size and position.
Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:29
Maybe the margins at the top and sides should be removed so the button are all flush with the screen edges
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should be the same as the other buttons though. only the joystick hitbox itself is weird since it's a square around the rendered circle
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:30
sry for the epyc noises lol
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micro must be really sensitive
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<ChillerDragon> @Souly 0.7 hand support is going well justatest
Souly 2024-07-23 10:30
BRO NO WAY THIS IS THAT HARD TO CODE 😭😭😭
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sry for the epyc noises lol
Teero 2024-07-23 10:31
Skill issue xxdd
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jk
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Souly 2024-07-23 10:31
i couldnt do a single throw on fng
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thats a real skill issue
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:31
Hmm, and it only happens for this one button? Does something similar happen in other games as well in that corner? Maybe try windowed mode
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Hmm, and it only happens for this one button? Does something similar happen in other games as well in that corner? Maybe try windowed mode
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:32
mh yeah dunno maybe it's my phone xd
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Teero 2024-07-23 10:33
Btw @Robyt3 are configs not saved yet or is there something wrong on my end?
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:33
General notice: If you have a 3-finger swipe gesture (for screenshots or multi tasking) then disable it, or pressing down 3 or more fingers doesn't work
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Btw @Robyt3 are configs not saved yet or is there something wrong on my end?
Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:33
Only if you quit the client manually
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Not if you leave it in the background to die
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Teero 2024-07-23 10:33
Ah ok
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xd
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:34
You can also quickly press the back button three times to quit cleanly, but maybe we should remove that again if it's too easy to do accidentally, now that the UI works
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Hmm, and it only happens for this one button? Does something similar happen in other games as well in that corner? Maybe try windowed mode
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:35
windowed mode works.. so i assume it has to do with the android overlay somehow
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Teero 2024-07-23 10:35
Hitting the UI sliders is pretty hard. Is a swipe gesture for the server browser plausible?
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windowed mode works.. so i assume it has to do with the android overlay somehow
Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:35
yeah, I assume it handles the touch as activating the menu bar with the gesture
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Hitting the UI sliders is pretty hard. Is a swipe gesture for the server browser plausible?
Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:35
yes, it's already implemented, use two fingers
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Teero 2024-07-23 10:36
Oh mb xdd
10:36
Woah cool
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Robyt3
yes, it's already implemented, use two fingers
Teero 2024-07-23 10:37
It still moves the mouse cursor with one of the fingers if you want to fix that xd
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Teero
It still moves the mouse cursor with one of the fingers if you want to fix that xd
Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:38
It needs to, otherwise it can't know which UI element to activate with the scroll
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Teero 2024-07-23 10:38
Ah okay
10:38
Is there a way to tab player names in chat?
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:38
Would be better if UI elements wouldn't be activated while scrolling, but that's caused by the two fingers not being pressed down exactly at the same time, might be fixable by adding some delay in the UI
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Teero
Is there a way to tab player names in chat?
Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:38
Not without keyboard
10:39
Unless your virtual keyboard can enter tab maybe
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:42
my screen cuts off, but the reported res is my "real" screen res
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10:42
that kinda sucks.. but probs nothing we can do
10:43
when i resize in windowed mode it changes the res.. then changes it back but ddnet still assumes the changed res
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 10:43
Also kinda annoying on newer phones with round screen corners, that's why I also play on windowed mode
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 10:43
that kinda looks like a bug
10:44
but maybe SDL fails to report the change, dunno
10:44
or we don't check for an SDL error here
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-23 10:52
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8637 Fix text input rapidly activated/deactivated when closing console
Fixes virtual keyboard on Android flashing rapidly when the console is closed.

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  • [X] Tested the change ingame
  • [ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
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Teero 2024-07-23 11:02
@Robyt3 is there a readme for compiling to android?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:02
scripts/android
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Teero 2024-07-23 11:02
thx
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:03
ndk27 is broken for libogg, so better do exactly what the readme says xd
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Teero 2024-07-23 11:04
justatest
11:04
ok
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-23 11:04
I think it could be epic to train some llm on this channel. Imagine you can ask chat.ddnet.org „how to compile ddnet android“ and it replies with „scripts/android“
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:05
yes
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go ahead
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xd
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-23 11:05
There is so much unsorted knowledge in here
11:05
Busy doing 0.7 stuff right now. Souly found so many bugs -.-
Replying to @Jupstar ✪ go ahead
11:06
Also doing llms sounds hard
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Busy doing 0.7 stuff right now. Souly found so many bugs -.-
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:06
better learn rust
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and help
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-23 11:06
help what
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:06
twgame integration
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-23 11:06
Aren’t you done with that forever?
11:06
Also what about licenses?
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Souly 2024-07-23 11:07
just finished #👶easyright_3
11:07
im so good at this
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:07
yeah i am mostly waiting for zwelfs decision on license xd
11:07
huge blocker
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-23 11:08
Speaking of licenses @heinrich5991 what license should I use for a tw protocol project that contains a 1:1 Int and packet header packer translation into another language and a bunch of other code that’s totally clean room (edited)
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Robyt3
Also kinda annoying on newer phones with round screen corners, that's why I also play on windowed mode
Souly 2024-07-23 11:08
true i could barely hit quit button
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I think it could be epic to train some llm on this channel. Imagine you can ask chat.ddnet.org „how to compile ddnet android“ and it replies with „scripts/android“
louis 2024-07-23 11:08
discord is already doing it ^^
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just finished #👶easyright_3
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:08
first EU mobile player, nice
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-23 11:08
Yes?
11:08
discord has a llm search?
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louis 2024-07-23 11:08
how do u harvest data? is there an irc log database?
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-23 11:09
Yes
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discord has a llm search?
louis 2024-07-23 11:09
no, i was joking that they harvest the data for llm purpose anyways
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Souly 2024-07-23 11:09
@Jupstar ✪ how are binds handled with this
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-23 11:09
Yes but it’s not accessible to us :(
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Yes
louis 2024-07-23 11:09
where link
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Souly 2024-07-23 11:09
how do i bind deepfly for example lol
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how do i bind deepfly for example lol
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:09
unfinished
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 11:09
There's no way to bind anything unless you use a keyboard
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:09
i think the plan is to allow custom buttons
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Souly 2024-07-23 11:10
ahh i was thinking that screentouch was treated as mouse1 or something
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-23 11:10
@louis: https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=ddnet%20irclogs
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ahh i was thinking that screentouch was treated as mouse1 or something
Robyt3 2024-07-23 11:11
No, all buttons and touches directly execute console commands like +fire
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:12
@Robyt3 btw is the touch controls logic 1 frame delayed?
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i think the plan is to allow custom buttons
Robyt3 2024-07-23 11:12
I'd like to have a default layout that works. Then we could make some of it adjustable, e.g. enable/disable predefined buttons, change their size and position. Lastly, we could support adding additional buttons that execute any console command
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@Robyt3 btw is the touch controls logic 1 frame delayed?
Robyt3 2024-07-23 11:13
No, the ingame controls should be immediate
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UI input is delayed by two frame
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First frame the mouse needs to move over the element, second tick it can activate it
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No, the ingame controls should be immediate
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:13
so there is a update function that runs independent of rendering?
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 11:14
No it's still coupled to the rendering code
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UI input is delayed by two frame
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:14
do you mean menu UI? 😅
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No it's still coupled to the rendering code
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:14
but isnt it then 1 frame delayed?
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do you mean menu UI? 😅
Robyt3 2024-07-23 11:15
yeah, menu UI always has to be delayed because of our design
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:15
yeah that is fine
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but isnt it then 1 frame delayed?
Robyt3 2024-07-23 11:15
Not sure, first the client inputs are updated, which includes the touch states, then rendering uses the touch states
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@louis: https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=ddnet%20irclogs
Teero 2024-07-23 11:15
Chiller you recently made some prototype to support live map editing maps right? Or atleast some packets that syncs the game tiles of the server to the client to support minetee-like servermods (edited)
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louis 2024-07-23 11:16
yes its a pr on the ddnet github i think
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Not sure, first the client inputs are updated, which includes the touch states, then rendering uses the touch states
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:16
mh i thought it's coupled to rendering xdd
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<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1721730425.png
Sans 2024-07-23 11:16
it looks better than my first try at rendering 0.7 tees lol
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mh i thought it's coupled to rendering xdd
Robyt3 2024-07-23 11:17
hmm, I don't really understand the question, what's different from normal controls?
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hmm, I don't really understand the question, what's different from normal controls?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:19
i mean like that SDL sends input -> we directly handle this input (in touch control's case hitting a touch btn) -> the input is already handled even a render frame is skipped (fps capped)
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@Robyt3 are you aware of virtual keyboard bugs?
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245758914448851045/1265266215773798400/Screenrecorder-2024-07-23-19-03-19-228.mp4?ex=66a0e27d&is=669f90fd&hm=cdca7ebb6aed488239baf5db967dbb2f5882a7a2912d58241d8e96c2a2002397&
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apparently only buggy in english
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i mean like that SDL sends input -> we directly handle this input (in touch control's case hitting a touch btn) -> the input is already handled even a render frame is skipped (fps capped)
Robyt3 2024-07-23 11:20
eh, no, I decided against an event based system...
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Sans 2024-07-23 11:20
Can I also play around with the mobile version to test it?
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 11:20
but I guess it's still possible to do without it
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:21
mh ok
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Sans
Can I also play around with the mobile version to test it?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:21
u can download it somewhere above
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Can I also play around with the mobile version to test it?
Robyt3 2024-07-23 11:21
yes, see download above
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Can I also play around with the mobile version to test it?
Teero 2024-07-23 11:21
https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1265245601046466615
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Sans 2024-07-23 11:21
neat
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:21
the DNet version nouis
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Teero 2024-07-23 11:22
Does the server know it is handling an android client?
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Does the server know it is handling an android client?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:22
dont think so, why
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Teero 2024-07-23 11:23
I don't know it might be useful. Some server mods might want to send different data to mobile players for the sake of playability or block mobile players entirely.
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Sans 2024-07-23 11:23
Quick question, I fat fingered the editor button instead of the play button and my curved screen corners dont allow me to press the close button, what now?
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artok 2024-07-23 11:24
Why did I get banned for VPN if I never used it?
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Why did I get banned for VPN if I never used it?
Teero 2024-07-23 11:24
#✉-create-a-ticket
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Why did I get banned for VPN if I never used it?
Sans 2024-07-23 11:24
If you use a proxy like the cloudflare 1.1.1.1 app that also triggers it
11:24
done it before
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Quick question, I fat fingered the editor button instead of the play button and my curved screen corners dont allow me to press the close button, what now?
Robyt3 2024-07-23 11:24
The back-button should work like Escape, to exit the editor
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Sans 2024-07-23 11:25
oh thank god
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@Robyt3 are you aware of virtual keyboard bugs?
Robyt3 2024-07-23 11:27
Doesn't happen to me, maybe randomly also fixed by the PR above
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Doesn't happen to me, maybe randomly also fixed by the PR above
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:29
possible
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Sans 2024-07-23 11:29
chatting seems fine for me as well
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:29
will later try
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Sans 2024-07-23 11:35
weird, I somehow have better ping on mobile even though im using the same network on both pc and mobile
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11:36
it doesnt look like it's just a spike, it's constantly like this, about 15ms lower
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it doesnt look like it's just a spike, it's constantly like this, about 15ms lower
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:42
do you use wifi on both?
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Sans 2024-07-23 11:42
pc is cable to router and my phone is on wifi
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:42
then the ping might simply be wrong bcs wifi is less stable
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Sans 2024-07-23 11:42
if anything pc should have lower ping
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:42
even if it's lower
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Sans 2024-07-23 11:42
hm
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 11:43
also as stupid as it sounds. cl_prediction_margin can alter the ping xD
11:43
e.g. cl_prediction_margin 18 on a local server gives ping 0 xD
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-23 11:45
@Teero: yes I did basic mintee stuff
11:45
Also live map editor that’s fun
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-23 11:47
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8637 Fix text input rapidly activated/deactivated when closing console
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
8b3e686 Fix text input rapidly activated/deactivated when closing console - Robyt3 fe2843b Merge pull request #8637 from Robyt3/UI-Input-Console-Activation-Fix - Jupeyy
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@Teero: yes I did basic mintee stuff
Teero 2024-07-23 12:19
i was thinking of doing live map generation for gores so you can play while it is generating the map. is the pr already merged?
12:19
could you link it? I can't find it (edited)
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-23 12:20
There is no pr yet only an issue. I don’t think it’s gonna land in ddnet any time soon. Heinrich wants full demo support for it.
12:22
I would just generate the map before players join.
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I would just generate the map before players join.
Teero 2024-07-23 12:26
the generator relies on inputs from the players. thats the unique thing about it :D
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There is no pr yet only an issue. I don’t think it’s gonna land in ddnet any time soon. Heinrich wants full demo support for it.
Teero 2024-07-23 12:28
pack it into a snap and handle it normally no? when someone joins all the changes to the layers could be sent at once (edited)
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pc is cable to router and my phone is on wifi
Souly 2024-07-23 12:33
actually same for me lol
12:33
and also better ping
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-23 12:39
You can’t store entire maps in the snapshot it’s too big
Replying to @Teero just pack it into a snap and handle it normally no? when someone joins a…
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The issue in demos is mostly the demo seek feature which allows you to skip forwards and backwards in the demo to any time stamp. Joining players is something the server side can implement somehow yea that’s a bit of work but should be fine. (edited)
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I am currently working on that a bit. I am trying to generate the full actual map and serve new players a full map download instead of a diff. This way it’s also backwards compatible. But not sure if I will manage to finish it. It’s not too easy to generate full maps on the fly on the server side. (edited)
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i think ddnet sucks on controller xdd
louis 2024-07-23 13:15
doesnt the deck touchpad help a bit?
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not sure if it has absolute mode but i could see that being pretty nice
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 13:26
i wish i'd have bought a steam controller back when they sold them for 5€
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i think they also had a touch pad
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fokkonaut 2024-07-23 13:35
@Robyt3 is it assured that accessing server variables on the client works? will they get set from loading the map file, due to CFGFLAG_GAME? No variable, or modifyable way? Modders have to add it to the map? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/fe2843bb31a8acb57af2579a6983c2e06b422dc1/src/game/client/components/scoreboard.cpp#L325
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Teams are disabled on my server, I only use them for 1vs1's mostly
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@Robyt3 is it assured that accessing server variables on the client works? will they get set from loading the map file, due to CFGFLAG_GAME? No variable, or modifyable way? Modders have to add it to the map? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/fe2843bb31a8acb57af2579a6983c2e06b422dc1/src/game/client/components/scoreboard.cpp#L325
Robyt3 2024-07-23 13:55
Yes, AFAIK CFGFLAG_GAME settings are only loaded from maps on the client side
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#7589
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DDNet BOT 2024-07-23 13:55
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/7589
Game config options don't sync between client and server after map ...
Issue from here: ddnet-insta#63 But this bug also exists upstream so issue here. 2023-12-02.22-24-25.mp4 On first bounce it hits the player clientside but not serverside second bounce it doesn't
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zaerin 2024-07-23 14:10
How can i get all the KoG server ip adresses?
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How can i get all the KoG server ip adresses?
murpi 2024-07-23 14:11
You can get them here: https://info.ddnet.org/info
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8638 Install icons and desktop file conditionally
Only install client/server icons and desktop file if corresponding targets are enabled
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You can get them here: https://info.ddnet.org/info
zaerin 2024-07-23 14:15
the problem is this page gives 107 servers including NLD, HUN etc which doesnt exist rn
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Need only the online 47 servers
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Robyt3 2024-07-23 14:16
Combine it with the data of online servers from https://master1.ddnet.org/ddnet/15/servers.json
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murpi 2024-07-23 14:17
or tell Avolicious to fix it
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
7f1123e Install icons and desktop file conditionally - AMDmi3 5b81b29 Merge pull request #8638 from AMDmi3/patch-1 - Learath2
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8638 Install icons and desktop file conditionally
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Ryozuki 2024-07-23 15:02
@Jupstar ✪ did u know llvm wants to deprecate ofast
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https://discourse.llvm.org/t/rfc-deprecate-ofast/78687
RFC: Deprecate -Ofast
Currently, -Ofast means effectively -ffast-math -O3. I think we should “soft-deprecate” the option: emit no deprecation diagnostic, but have it simply become an alias for -O3. An alternative would be to fully deprecate, and potentially later remove -Ofast – but IMO just making it an alias will be less impactful, and achieve the goal. Why should...
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Learath2 2024-07-23 15:03
@Jupstar ✪ do you have a map + settings combination to "benchmark" on?
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@Jupstar ✪ did u know llvm wants to deprecate ofast
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 15:06
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@Jupstar ✪ do you have a map + settings combination to "benchmark" on?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 15:06
?XD
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absolutely no idea what you mean
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you want to benchmark map rendering?
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https://openbenchmarking.org/test/pts/ddnet
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?XD
Learath2 2024-07-23 15:07
I want to quantify how good this igpu is
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What map do you go on and what settings do you use when you say you have a gorillion fps?
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What map do you go on and what settings do you use when you say you have a gorillion fps?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 15:08
i use a gores map that has no particle entities like ninja or stuff or lasers. So basically pure gores and then entities on
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for example i often use ckisbzw1
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and then i see i only have 5k fps 😭
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wtf happened
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getting worse every day
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i need kde6.. my current version is beyond brocken.. if i disable compositor i have worse FPS than with compositor on xd
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Learath2 2024-07-23 15:13
I get about 1.5k
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That's more than I expected on an igpu
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 15:13
that isnt bad for an igpu
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what is that?
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which
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Learath2 2024-07-23 15:14
I get 2.2k with ogl3.3 damn
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what is that?
Learath2 2024-07-23 15:14
Radeon 780M
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Radeon 780M
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 15:15
APU?
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also what screen resolution do you have?
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APU?
Learath2 2024-07-23 15:17
I think these things are considered APUs yeah it's a Ryzen 7 7840U
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2256x1504
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 15:18
ah nice not bad. can you read the power consumption?
15:18
would highly interest me
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Learath2 2024-07-23 15:19
hm, I know how to read it but I don't have a tool that would show it to me live
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 15:19
which OS?
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Learath2 2024-07-23 15:19
linux, gentoo
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 15:19
watch -n 1 sensors
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normally amd gpus have built in power meters
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dunno for APUs tho
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Learath2 2024-07-23 15:23
mh sensors won't work, it's acpi on this laptop
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 15:32
i just tried out https://github.com/Umio-Yasuno/amdgpu_top but i am not sure if the gpu metrics thing also uses sensors internally
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Learath2 2024-07-23 15:33
#!/bin/bash voltage=$(cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1/voltage_now) current=$(cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1/current_now) power=$(("$voltage" * "$current")) power=$(("$power" / 1000000000000)) echo "$power"
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I wrote a smol script
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but it's total power usage not just gpu
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ah amdgpu-top works
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lets see
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i just tried out https://github.com/Umio-Yasuno/amdgpu_top but i am not sure if the gpu metrics thing also uses sensors internally
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 15:39
@Ryozuki it's also written in rust
15:39
just noticed lmao
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Learath2 2024-07-23 15:39
Which one are you interested in? total power or only gpu?
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Which one are you interested in? total power or only gpu?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 15:39
gpu mostly
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at max fps
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gpu mostly
Learath2 2024-07-23 15:42
about 31W
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about 31W
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 15:42
with the gl3.3 backend?
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Learath2 2024-07-23 15:42
same for vk and ogl
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 15:42
ok
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20W more efficient than my GPU on ~2200 fps
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Learath2 2024-07-23 15:45
I wonder why gl is better on this machine, perhaps it's RADV being shit
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Learath2
I wonder why gl is better on this machine, perhaps it's RADV being shit
Jupstar ✪ 2024-07-23 15:46
the difference is defs very huge. generally i also saw that on purely GPU bound scenarios that opengl beat vulkan for me too. You could join a 64p server and open the scoreboard
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and see how FPS compares then
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then it's much more CPU bound
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generally speaking vulkan is not rendering faster. it just removes driver overhead (mostly CPU bound)
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ah nice
Robyt3 2024-07-23 19:28
Doesn't seem to work. Looks like we either have to patch OpenSSL to work on Android (https://stackoverflow.com/a/66926685) or wait for an upstream patch (https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/24002).
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archimede67 2024-07-23 19:29
@murpi (or other admins) any news on the saves being disabled? https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/420565311863914496/1262449640029294684
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-23 20:47
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
9365e14 Fix 'auto' GPU identification and display - DynamoFox c7bcdc3 Merge pull request #8575 from DynamoFox/fix-dgpu-selection - Jupeyy
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8575 Fix 'auto' GPU identification on hybrid GPU systems
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Lera_Love 2024-07-23 21:13
всем ку
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Lera_Love
всем ку
Tsumugi 2024-07-23 21:23
здарова как жизнь
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есть успехи в программировании?
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Tsumugi
здарова как жизнь
Lera_Love 2024-07-23 21:40
очееень плоха
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дднет лагать начала оччччччень жестко
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э
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днем играл не было лагов
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щас играю лагает 10-15 фпс
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Tsumugi 2024-07-23 21:41
капец непруха
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zhn 2024-07-23 21:41
please bring russian to #off-topic
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Ewan 2024-07-23 21:41
rus in #off-topic
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>_>
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Tsumugi
капец непруха
Lera_Love 2024-07-23 21:41
не знаешь че за фигня ?
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Ewan 2024-07-23 21:42
@Lera_Love #off-topic
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Ewan
>_>
Lera_Love 2024-07-23 21:42
angl in
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Ewan 2024-07-23 21:42
❤️
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Lera_Love 2024-07-23 21:42
oy
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он знает что я не лера
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Ewan 2024-07-23 21:42
it'r over
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Lera_Love 2024-07-23 21:42
а то что лера моя девушка прост
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zhn 2024-07-23 21:43
прошу прочитай наши сообщения хоть один раз и пойми что все каналы кроме #off-topic англоязычные
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if you need help though better use #questions
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Lera_Love
а то что лера моя девушка прост
Tsumugi 2024-07-23 21:44
justatest
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zhn 2024-07-23 21:44
but still they're all english-only
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zhn
прошу прочитай наши сообщения хоть один раз и пойми что все каналы кроме #off-topic англоязычные
Lera_Love 2024-07-23 21:45
ой
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Learath2
hm, I know how to read it but I don't have a tool that would show it to me live
Chairn 2024-07-23 21:54
https://github.com/hubblo-org/scaphandre
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⚡ Energy consumption metrology agent. Let "scaph" dive and bring back the metrics that will help you make your systems and applications more sustainable ! - hubblo-org/scaphandre
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Robyt3
Doesn't seem to work. Looks like we either have to patch OpenSSL to work on Android (https://stackoverflow.com/a/66926685) or wait for an upstream patch (https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/24002).
deen 2024-07-23 22:02
Doesn't android have its own native ssl library? Maybe use that instead of openssl
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Headshot 2024-07-23 22:05
http://github.com/headshot2017/ddnet-3ds/releases
Releases · headshot2017/ddnet-3ds
Port of DDNet 9 to the Nintendo 3DS. Contribute to headshot2017/ddnet-3ds development by creating an account on GitHub.
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this port feels much more stable than the other 3 consoles i've ported the game to, so i went and released the ROM for it (edited)
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deen 2024-07-23 22:06
Oh well:
Note that this does not give you SSL/TLS support. If you need SSL/TLS, you have to build curl with a SSL/TLS library, e.g. OpenSSL, because it is impossible for curl to access Android's native SSL/TLS layer.
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Can we use native Android https layer instead or would that be too much work?
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@Headshot Why DDNet 9 btw?
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Because last version with SDL1?
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Headshot 2024-07-23 22:11
it's been the easiest version for me to make ports of
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SDL gets replaced with system functions during the porting process (edited)
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-23 22:54
@Headshot: when contribute your stuff to the SDL repo hehe
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Headshot 2024-07-23 22:54
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