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Between 2024-07-22 00:00 and 2024-07-23 00:00
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Hyper Realism Studios 2024-07-22 16:12
is there a way you can make the heart and sheild do what they do in ctf, tdm, teesmash, etc. in the map editor?
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you need a custom server for that, not a custom map
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Hyper Realism Studios 2024-07-22 16:15
how doest one do that? (im not that smart when it comes to servers, sorry) (edited)
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Hyper Realism Studios
is there a way you can make the heart and sheild do what they do in ctf, tdm, teesmash, etc. in the map editor?
teesmash is different behavior than ctf/sm
16:47
you have to find and download/build the correct server executables for whichever mode you create
16:47
the map is separate from the server- a teesmash map with shields and hearts will do ddnet things if you host it on a ddnet server, and vice versa
16:48
what are u trying to do specifically?
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Hyper Realism Studios 2024-07-22 17:04
im trying to make a team & class - based combat map
17:05
so i dont think teesmash was a good representation
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~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 17:47
What defines a map to be similar to a ddmax?
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~ Caramelo
What defines a map to be similar to a ddmax?
if it's bad troll
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If you're wanting to have it added to the ddmax category, that's not possible.
17:49
The ddmax category is strictly for maps that were hosted on the ddmax servers, a branch of servers before DDNet existed
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Skeith
If you're wanting to have it added to the ddmax category, that's not possible.
~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 17:49
no, I want to say like, when you make a map and someone says it looks like a ddmax
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Skeith
The ddmax category is strictly for maps that were hosted on the ddmax servers, a branch of servers before DDNet existed
~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 17:49
i know
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~ Caramelo
no, I want to say like, when you make a map and someone says it looks like a ddmax
they are saying it feels and looks old
17:50
play some ddmax maps and you will understand
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Uh, usually maps that are focused around very basic parts, such as purple panic
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you are like summoning tsin right now
17:51
don't use the d-word that much
kek 4
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Parts like this are very common in ddmax
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you are making it worse justatest
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Welf
you are like summoning tsin right now
kek
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Welf
don't use the d-word that much
~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 17:52
what is d word
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Skeith
Parts like this are very common in ddmax
~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 17:52
hmm
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~ Caramelo
what is d word
ddmax
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Skeith
Parts like this are very common in ddmax
~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 17:52
parts that only use hook & hammer and have little playability?
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Welf
ddmax
~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 17:52
ahh ok
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~ Caramelo
what is d word
back then tsin was the admin of ddmax and he still defends his servers alot, when people talk about it
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~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 17:53
I don't know who Tsi is
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as i said the former admin of ddmax, it was like the ddnet before ddnet existed in europe (i just summarized it, this is not that exact) (edited)
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Welf
as i said the former admin of ddmax, it was like the ddnet before ddnet existed in europe (i just summarized it, this is not that exact) (edited)
~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 17:55
aaaah
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~ Caramelo
parts that only use hook & hammer and have little playability?
Basically, they're mostly about accurately going from hook to hook with your movement
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Skeith
Basically, they're mostly about accurately going from hook to hook with your movement
~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 17:55
oh, now I understand
17:55
thx
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lets say "simple drag parts" instead of "ddmax" 🙏 (edited)
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Ah, dummy drag right? greenthing
17:56
hooks the ceiling
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that name is so confusing as well!
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That's what you meant by drag, right!
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~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 17:56
Where do you get ideas for maps?
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~ Caramelo
Where do you get ideas for maps?
at first i suggest to play alot of maps, try to understand how parts work and why stuff is fun, you can also get alot of ideas by experimenting (well if you do novice/low moderate mapping its different)
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~ Caramelo
Where do you get ideas for maps?
Basically every part has been made before, new maps are usually just a combination of different parts to try and make something somewhat new, but basically do what Welf said
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i think there are still alot of unexplored concepts 😅 but yeah many new parts include old parts/techniques but with a different setup, which makes them feel better for me mapping with push shotgun helped me to create a new feeling
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~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 18:00
hmm
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hi Zonsa 😮
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Welf brownbear
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~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 18:01
okkk thx
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i warned u guys...
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~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 20:55
ok, thanks for explaining it to me 🙂
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edited text (the one before was too much insulting and did catch heinrich attention ^^. I've made a mistake by going with "eye for an eye" that leads to nowhere and sooner or later all will go blind). "maps like ddmax" this phrase is a lie. Map can't be similar to whole category of various types of maps(it's just impossible). Players who write that intentionaly forget that ddnet also have plenty of maps that have simple drag parts (thats their common mistake). About ddmax... times were diffrent, tools weren't soo good and community wanted more of this kind of maps so mappers created them (thats why there is a feeling that there is more of simplier maps in ddmax categories). We almost have something similar now on ddnet but with this diffrence that theres plenty of hammer hit maps (that aren't that much diffrent from each other) and lots of grass main novice clones maps(I have no idea why players don't see it, I've already mentioned that few times and I hope that map testing team will be more restriced to creativity when it goes to novice maps and hammer hit maps). Learn on DDracemaX mistakes and don't allowe for clones =] So the right and only term for "ddmax maps" are maps that were released on DDracemaX. I do hope that will give you the answer you were looking for. From me If you plan to make a map then yeah check old maps to see what was done in the past. However by making your own map focus on more recently released maps like "sunlit peaks", "galac tees", "brass run", "easy right2", "firewatch 2", "vacando", "control' theres plenty of more good maps but this ones are in my opinion rly nice maps with good flow/gameplay =] wall of text ❤️ xD
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I don't mind if a person writes a real opinion about ddmax its their right to do so. I only show up when some just does it intentionaly to harm the mappers who did spend lots of their free time.... If it would be about insulting me (have fun). If it would be about insulting my maps (give yours best) =] but please show a lil bt of respect to mappers who made maps for ddmax (thats the only reason why I always show up) I only want to defend their good name. They did their best with tools that they had and restrictions with which they had to deal with. For long time ddmax had a rule for 300 kb max maps =] Game didn't allowe for fast download and everything above that would take like 15 minutes to download. We did managed to get around that limit, thats also the reason why some maps didn't aged that well.
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~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 22:57
Can I send a map here to evaluate?
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yes but usually you will get ignored, rather post screenshots or upload it in testing so you will get some official feedback 😅
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If people are interested, I can start sharing some of the maths and tricks I use when I design maps
23:09
It's very specific but that could help
23:09
Or if you have any special questions or requests you'd like answered in images and explanations
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I guess that would be nice, it's hard to find the useful information.. How do you look for new map ideas?
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Pipou
If people are interested, I can start sharing some of the maths and tricks I use when I design maps
~ Caramelo 2024-07-22 23:38
yes
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