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Between 2024-07-09 00:00 and 2024-07-10 00:00
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-09 00:23
<ChillerDragon> i think this is the first time i have seen cmake trip on percentages xd https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1720484547.png
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Gumba 2024-07-09 00:58
Suddenly there is a demand for ddnet mobile client, do kids these days obly have a phone :/
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cyberFighter
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Souly 2024-07-09 00:58
same thing happened to me today lol
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and i got confused
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Gumba 2024-07-09 00:58
But I think its very cool, i vould even imagine some solo maps being really fun on mobile
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Headshot 2024-07-09 01:47
winlator mobox!!1!1
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Souly 2024-07-09 01:55
fng is super fun on mobile
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-09 03:14
<ChillerDragon> @Gumba suddenly? I think the only sudden thing is robsti actually working on it. Phones have replaced computers since a long time now.
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<ChillerDragon> does this image still work? i cant open it -.-
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<ChillerDragon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/886613958994325534/ima_f48abe1.jpeg
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<ChillerDragon> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/886613958994325534/ima_f48abe1.jpeg
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meloƞ
What i do feelssurprized
TsFreddie 2024-07-09 06:07
being sweet
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Ryozuki 2024-07-09 07:14
https://kuterdinel.com/nv_isa_sm89/
07:14
4090 nvidia instruction set
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Ewan 2024-07-09 07:17
this seems to be missing words
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Ryozuki 2024-07-09 07:19
wdym
07:19
its reverse engineered
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Ewan 2024-07-09 07:20
ya
07:20
no English
07:21
so they disassembled and gave names to opcodes but I feel like most ppl need a description for anything to make sense
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Tater 2024-07-09 07:22
is the instruction set useful?
07:23
the gpu lets you just execute these instructions directly somehow?
07:28
I guess you can
07:28
looks like it was also made with this https://github.com/kuterd/nv_isa_solver
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Ryozuki 2024-07-09 07:29
https://pretalx.com/devconf-cz-2024/talk/W3AVCT/
No more boot loader: Please use the kernel instead DevConf.CZ
We are working on a new scheme to replace the GRUB bootloader with a fast, secure, Linux-based, user-space solution: nmbl (for no more boot loader). Most people are familiar with GRUB, a powerful, flexible, fully-featured bootloader that is used on multiple architectures (x86_64, aarch64, ppc64le OpenFirmware). Although GRUB is quite versatile a...
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MilkeeyCat 2024-07-09 07:44
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Ryozuki 2024-07-09 07:52
mmm could have been done better
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heinrich5991 2024-07-09 08:05
yes
08:06
looks like a copy of the original math meme with semi-good replacements
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heinrich5991 2024-07-09 08:28
@Learath2 you wanted to take a look at https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/5156 at some point 😛
HTTP master: Server should select best masterserver · Issue #5156 ·...
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-09 08:32
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #8541 Masterserver should more strictly reject servers with info that is considered invalid by the client
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heinrich5991
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #8535 "Leak IP" doesn't work in the Internet tab
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6783 server registration problem
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-09 08:57
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[ddnet/ddnet-scripts] Pull request opened: #56 Add documentation on how to set up a master replica
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
ad0562a Revert "Stronger DB server" - def-
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-09 09:26
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[ddnet/ddnet-scripts] Pull request closed: #56 Add documentation on how to set up a master replica
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[ddnet-scripts:master] 2 new commits
717ce89 Add documentation on how to set up a master replica - heinrich5991 4804753 Merge pull request #56 from heinrich5991/pr_master_replica - def-
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-09 09:41
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fokkonaut
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8572 Update F-DDrace entities by Souly

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
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  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-ad...
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meloƞ
What i do feelssurprized
Anime.pdf 2024-07-09 10:59
being sweet, obviously
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Ryozuki 2024-07-09 11:48
anybody knows another web like https://www.mouser.es/
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for DIY electronics
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microchips
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Ryozuki
anybody knows another web like https://www.mouser.es/
Learath2 2024-07-09 11:56
Digikey?
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There is also arrow I guess
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I only ever got stuff from digikey
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meloƞ 2024-07-09 12:08
@louis i request your review once again!
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oh wait nvm i made an oopsie
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ok now
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justatest
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louis 2024-07-09 12:19
ok i responded
12:19
i'm still being a bit nitpicky, but it's just so someone else in the future doesn't feel the need to change it again
12:19
it's ultimately up to the higher ups to determine if the icon is good enough though
12:20
@meloƞ do you know if you have the .svg source for that image? (edited)
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meloƞ 2024-07-09 12:20
nope, @catseyenebulous might
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руми 2024-07-09 12:56
всем привет,как поменять скин?
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heinrich5991 2024-07-09 12:56
russian → #off-topic
12:56
all other channels are english-only
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Jean-Clovis 2024-07-09 13:55
Hello there ! I have an issue with my monitor (ultra-wide screen, 3440x1440 px). Cursor does not appear at top and bottom of the screen. Does anyone know how to fix this ?
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Jean-Clovis
Hello there ! I have an issue with my monitor (ultra-wide screen, 3440x1440 px). Cursor does not appear at top and bottom of the screen. Does anyone know how to fix this ?
Teero 2024-07-09 14:01
set cl_mouse_max_distance lower or adjust your screen resolution if the game does not fill the whole screen
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-09 14:01
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[ddnet/ddnet-scripts] Pull request opened: #57 Enable compression for the master replica
This is important because it reduces the download size by a factor of 6.
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Jean-Clovis 2024-07-09 14:02
Thanks, that's exactly what i was looking for 😁
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Ryozuki 2024-07-09 14:50
https://robertheaton.com/pyskywifi/
PySkyWiFi: completely free, unbelievably stupid wi-fi on long-haul ...
The plane reached 10,000ft. I took out my laptop, planning to peruse the internet and maybe do a little work if I got really desperate.
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https://github.com/yarrick/iodine
GitHub - yarrick/iodine: Official git repo for iodine dns tunnel
Official git repo for iodine dns tunnel. Contribute to yarrick/iodine development by creating an account on GitHub.
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-09 15:02
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[ddnet/ddnet-scripts] Pull request closed: #57 Enable compression for the master replica
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[ddnet-scripts:master] 2 new commits
ac53463 Enable compression for the master replica - heinrich5991 996121d Merge pull request #57 from heinrich5991/pr_master_replica2 - def-
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meloƞ 2024-07-09 15:36
@louis final update just dropped feelsking
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-09 15:52
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8573 Fix multiple redirected clients not dropped in the same tick
Closes #8551.

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
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  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/...
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fokkonaut 2024-07-09 16:02
Is it problematic to dilate a dilated image after editing it again?
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Pimble 2024-07-09 16:02
go
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yea
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ywhay
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Sticker
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fokkonaut
Is it problematic to dilate a dilated image after editing it again?
meloƞ 2024-07-09 16:03
i dont really think so
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fokkonaut 2024-07-09 16:03
ok
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Pimble 2024-07-09 16:03
so me li de ro mé
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meloƞ 2024-07-09 16:03
i mean i dilated Insanity's team0mode indicator like 10 times - still got added
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Pimble 2024-07-09 16:03
fiþ
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meloƞ 2024-07-09 16:03
justatest
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dilate -> edit -> dilate -> edit is what i mean
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Pimble 2024-07-09 16:04
µøð©xæüé
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æ
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-09 16:23
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[ddnet:master] 3 new commits
3e3017f Update F-DDrace entities - fokkonaut 4ee5dfd Dilate new images - def- 20d6add Merge pull request #8572 from fokkonaut/entities - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8572 Update F-DDrace entities by Souly
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Limbo gd 2024-07-09 16:25
кто дружить
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Patiga 2024-07-09 16:51
https://ddnet.org is struggling for me rn
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-09 16:51
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
350a57d Fix multiple redirected clients not dropped in the same tick - Robyt3 076bfc6 Merge pull request #8573 from Robyt3/Server-Redirect-Multiple-Drop-Fix - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8573 Fix multiple redirected clients not dropped in the same tick
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #8551 Potentional client redirect would not drop client in this state
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Patiga 2024-07-09 16:52
(seems fine again)
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Patiga
https://ddnet.org is struggling for me rn
Learath2 2024-07-09 17:07
We moved around the db server, so it might be load from that affecting it
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deen 2024-07-09 17:26
Weird, I didn't see anything wrong with it, load is also not high
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This is on a full DDNet server. Why are we having 16% overhead in printf?!
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deen
This is on a full DDNet server. Why are we having 16% overhead in printf?!
Learath2 2024-07-09 17:32
Any stacktrace? (edited)
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deen 2024-07-09 17:32
I haven't used perf before. It's on root@rus2.ddnet.org if you want to take a look yourself, or tell me what to run
17:33
Ah, got to use --call-graph too
this 1
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Learath2 2024-07-09 17:35
--call-graph dwarf I think since we probably omit frame pointers on a release build
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Chairn 2024-07-09 17:35
could it be related to unicode character more prevalent on russian servers ?
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deen 2024-07-09 17:36
Looks very different with dwarf
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Lots of antibot
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Chairn
could it be related to unicode character more prevalent on russian servers ?
Learath2 2024-07-09 17:37
Mh, shouldn't be any harder on printf than any other utf8 character except on windows where we do some re-encoding to please winapi
17:37
Yeah I can imagine antibot being veryvery expensive
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deen 2024-07-09 17:37
Oooh, that might explain why the 128 player servers were running so well!
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I had to disable antibot
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even with 128 players it was using less cpu than a 64 player server full
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Learath2 2024-07-09 17:38
still lots of printf though
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Did you record this to a file, can I take a peek?
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deen 2024-07-09 17:38
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Learath2 2024-07-09 17:39
Ah, yes I already brought this up in private with noby
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deen 2024-07-09 17:39
root@rus2.ddnet.org has perf.data
17:39
So we could save the second RUS server if we disable antibot, hmm
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Learath2 2024-07-09 17:40
I proposed something along these lines to replace the printf c++ void net_addr_str_v4(const NETADDR *addr, char *str, size_t max) { char *p = str; for(int i = 0; i < 4; i++) { auto r = std::to_chars(p + j, p + 3, addr->ip[i]; p = r.ptr; *p = '.'; } *p++ = '\0'; } I think this had some issue though, whatever, was just messing around
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or passing the binary representation of the ip to antibot instead
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deen 2024-07-09 17:41
Yeah, please pass the ip as an int array and we're good
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Learath2
I proposed something along these lines to replace the printf c++ void net_addr_str_v4(const NETADDR *addr, char *str, size_t max) { char *p = str; for(int i = 0; i < 4; i++) { auto r = std::to_chars(p + j, p + 3, addr->ip[i]; p = r.ptr; *p = '.'; } *p++ = '\0'; } I think this had some issue though, whatever, was just messing around
Learath2 2024-07-09 17:41
Yeah that +3 looks absurd, whatever, point is something that is catered directly to printing ip addresses
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deen 2024-07-09 17:42
or even just store the ip address in the client and pass it, no antibot changes required
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server*
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I have to go afk, but this is super high prio, both RUS servers are at their limit
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Learath2 2024-07-09 17:43
[7:57 PM]heinrich5991: probably just don't redo the work [7:57 PM]heinrich5991: each time [7:57 PM]heinrich5991: but rather do it when the client joins [7:57 PM]heinrich5991: not sure how well this could be integrated [7:57 PM]heinrich5991: afk ^^ [7:57 PM]Learath2: Yeah, or pass the ip binary instead of as a string? [7:57 PM]heinrich5991: but then we need to define a binary format [7:58 PM]heinrich5991: that doesn't change [7:58 PM]heinrich5991: I can see NETADDR changing, unfortunately [7:58 PM]Learath2: We could define an underlying NETADDR_INTERNAL with only ip and port, that's not going to change unless ipv8 is due [8:00 PM]heinrich5991: I'll take a look whether we can avoid redoing the work [8:00 PM]heinrich5991: then the string repr would be fine
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I'll take a look after food. Yeah this does need to be addressed. It should have been addressed back when I first noticed it, sorry
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-09 18:13
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8574 net_addr_str only once

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
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  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-ad...
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Learath2 2024-07-09 18:18
I'm not a huge fan of it but the str_copy is much cheaper atleast (edited)
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Ideally FillAntibot would expose some mechanism for the Filler to use the previous struct they submitted
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louis
@meloƞ do you know if you have the .svg source for that image? (edited)
catseyenebulous 2024-07-09 18:24
I do not have a .svg file but I could export it as one if you'd like? ^^
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egyt BOT 2024-07-09 18:50
I like Unexpected Keyboard too
Replying to @Pimble µøð©xæüé
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btw, @ me when there is an update to translation files :^)
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meloƞ 2024-07-09 18:51
all of em? °-°
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egyt BOT 2024-07-09 18:52
Well, I told 'em that I'm going to keep updating Ukrainian translation for the near future, so yeah?? (edited)
Replying to @meloƞ all of em? °-°
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Oh wait, I got it XD Well, the relevant to me changes, I mean
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deen 2024-07-09 19:07
We only update translations when a new client is released, so watching #announcements for new release candidates is enough
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-09 19:22
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[ddnet:master] 3 new commits
3cb390c net_addr_str only once - Learath2 7fa0ef5 Include port - Learath2 fa9f7b4 Merge pull request #8574 from Learath2/dd_pr_antibot_netaddr - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8574 net_addr_str only once
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Learath2 2024-07-09 19:43
I think I'm ready to start making my own programming language, it is time
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I want to make something like Rust, that is more relaxed. Less safe, more comfy
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MilkeeyCat 2024-07-09 19:47
will you use llvm?
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Learath2 2024-07-09 19:48
Yeah, I'm not interested in generating assembly and reinventing optimizations known for decades
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MilkeeyCat 2024-07-09 19:48
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Learath2 2024-07-09 19:48
I'll emit LLVM IR
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Learath2
I want to make something like Rust, that is more relaxed. Less safe, more comfy
heinrich5991 2024-07-09 19:49
sounds like there are already languages in that space
19:49
maybe nim or zig?
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Learath2 2024-07-09 19:50
With significant drawbacks though, Nim and Go are garbage collected. Zig is pretty nice but it's not as comfy as I'd like
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Learath2
With significant drawbacks though, Nim and Go are garbage collected. Zig is pretty nice but it's not as comfy as I'd like
Avolicious 2024-07-09 19:50
Go for Zig++
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Learath2 2024-07-09 19:51
I want some sort of lifetime support. Maybe more explicit than Rusts but opt-in
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heinrich5991 2024-07-09 19:53
what about C++? there's probably some third-party tooling for opt-in lifetimes
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I guess the package management and general coding is annoying thouguh
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Learath2 2024-07-09 19:53
C++ has a lot of baggage that makes it very annoying to work with
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I also need the compiler to understand lifetime-managed objects, so they can be allocated and deallocated without runtime overhead if the lifetime can be determined through static analysis
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I definitely have to sit down and write down the semantics of it but I think I have some sort of idea of all the features I want in it
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(I also might be completely missing something and there is a reason why rust is so strict 😄 )
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I'm not a very theory person, so maybe what I want is genuinely a mathematical impossibility that the borrowck people noticed
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heinrich5991 2024-07-09 19:58
that's something that probably needs some theory ^^
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you're likely to end up trying to solve the halting problem if you're not extra careful
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Learath2 2024-07-09 19:59
But essentially if the compiler can't figure out the lifetime and there is no gc specified, it will just complain, and fixing it should be as easy as explicitly giving it a lifetime. Idea is that if you as the programmer can figure out the lifetime, it should be trivial to fix any compilation issue due to lifetimes
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heinrich5991
that's something that probably needs some theory ^^
Learath2 2024-07-09 20:00
I'll just have to expand my theory knowledge as I keep encountering things that seem impossible 😄
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egyt BOT 2024-07-09 20:00
https://youtu.be/fSUEKosgyt0 @Ryozuki
Naviary
Infinite Chess is Now Open Source!
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Chess 8.0 got released under AGPL!!!
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egyt
https://youtu.be/fSUEKosgyt0 @Ryozuki
cyberFighter 2024-07-09 20:08
@keb chess battle advanced
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egyt
https://youtu.be/fSUEKosgyt0 @Ryozuki
Tater 2024-07-09 21:01
seems a little bit over hyped for effectively just chess
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Learath2
With significant drawbacks though, Nim and Go are garbage collected. Zig is pretty nice but it's not as comfy as I'd like
jxsl13 2024-07-09 22:59
nim + zig = nig, call it nig justatest
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-09 23:15
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[ddnet-scripts:master] 1 new commit
76bdc60 iptables for ssh (thanks to Learath2) - def-
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-09 23:30
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8575 Fix discrete GPU 'auto' selection regression on integrated/hybrid GPU systems
Essentially reverts "For integrated and discrete GPUs always prefer what comes first in the list", commit 7ca20a5873d12edc981945f9f85c6ef4a2f8310b, which attempted to resolve issue #6200. That commit caused the 'auto' GPU mechanism to correctly identify the proper 'auto' GPU but eventually to effectively use a weaker integrated GPU while falsely claiming to be using the 'auto' GPU in the Graphics menu in-game. The key precondition for the regression to manifest is that the Vulkan lo...
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Tater 2024-07-09 23:37
when did all the demo buttons become icons with no text and no tool tips?
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this is much worse
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heinrich5991 2024-07-09 23:38
git blame is your friend
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I suggest using tig blame
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it has nicer UI
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Tater 2024-07-09 23:41
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/7311
Overhaul demo browser UI by Robyt3 · Pull Request #7311 · ddnet/ddn...
Improve layout of demo browser buttons, search and checkbox. Use icons for most buttons. Decrease size of UI elements. Move demo details from below the file browser to a side panel on the right, wh...
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Is it only me who prefers the full text much more than the labels?
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There's plenty of space I don't see any reason to obfuscate what the buttons do
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heinrich5991
git blame is your friend
Tater 2024-07-09 23:47
I usually just use the github web ui blame or vscode extension
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-09 23:48
What is DDNET_IP supposed to be? The ip of the main ddnet server that can bypass all servers firewalls? Maybe it can use a comment so nobody has to guess
Replying to @GitHub GitHub: > def- […]
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heinrich5991 2024-07-09 23:50
yes @ main ddnet server
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Tater
I usually just use the github web ui blame or vscode extension
heinrich5991 2024-07-09 23:50
I find the web UI to be too slow
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Tater 2024-07-09 23:51
Idk what features tig blame has but browsing files from the console is not very comfortable for me
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if I am doing a lot of digging I just open vscode
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heinrich5991 2024-07-09 23:54
interesting
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-09 23:57
Ah nice thanks
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I basically never used git blame anymore these days.
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My editor has blame hints so I see it when I look at the code. But if I am actively searching for a commit I always use git log -S
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cyberFighter 2024-07-09 23:59
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