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<ChillerDragon> yo @heinrich5991 when i start a ddnet client i get the following log in the local console 2024-07-06 08:06:10 D stun/4: got address: followed by my public ipv4

00:09

<ChillerDragon> can we remove that?

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8564 Fix some clang warnings in the editor

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8565 Improve clang variable naming checks

Introduces checks for more variable types. And fixes false positives in newer clang versions.

<ChillerDragon> Anyone having hard feelings about removing some 16 year old hotkey from the editor? justatest

justatest

04:59

<ChillerDragon> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/8358#issuecomment-2211618914

Proof of concept for editor prompt by ChillerDragon · Pull Request ...

It works but I did not spend any time on polishing it yet. Would something like this be merged with the design decisions I made? If yes I can finish this up. When finished it would be a big diff an...

05:01

<ChillerDragon> ah true thats a good use case @Learath2

05:02

<ChillerDragon> i usually do something like ls > rm.sh;vi rm.sh;bash rm.sh

05:03

<ChillerDragon> but next time i have a small amount of files i will probably do the cool trick too! i assume its a safe habit to develop anyways to expand the glob before running a command. I can see how this can safe your ass.

05:05

<ChillerDragon> oh lol i forgot sometimes i do echo ./* to manually expand the glob. That stops now! xd

MilkeeyCat

Good evening

More accurate

05:07

Hello chillerdragon

<ChillerDragon> elo

what was learath's trick

<ChillerDragon> ctrl+x *

scrolled to yesterday and didn't find id

05:07

o

<ChillerDragon> WTF is this search xd

05:09

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1720242542.png

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<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1720242542.png

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05:09

<ChillerDragon> opsi bugged resend

05:12

<ChillerDragon> nvm its op

05:12

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1720242704.png

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when will u play games

wdym hes the most active teeworlds player according to teerank.io

December

Replying to @Ewan when will u play games

05:27

lmao

Replying to @zhn wdym hes the most active teeworlds player according to teerank.io

https://x.com/GameUnionTV/status/1808939980925833702

Game Union TV ⭐ (@GameUnionTV) on X

Do you like #UnrealEngine Nanite virtual geometry? Folks recreated it for FOSS game engine! @reduzio your move!

https://ladybird.org/

Ladybird is a truly independent web browser, backed by a non-profit.

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> Anyone having hard feelings about removing some 16 year old hotkey from the editor? justatest

justatest

You could use Ctrl+Shift+P for the Prompt, that's also the hotkey for it in Sublime Text

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github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

7553ea6 Improve clang variable naming checks - ChillerDragon bb7d424 Merge pull request #8565 from ChillerDragon/pr_more_clang_style - Robyt3

08:32

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8565 Improve clang variable naming checks

ctrl+shift+p to open settings masterrace

TsFreddie

https://ladybird.org/

is it new to u

09:14

I know one of the ladybird devs irl

09:14

nice guy

https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/pull/366

Yes, looks like white supremacy to me

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09:27

Probably alluding to this equally absurd PR https://x.com/m_ou_se/status/1808228833478209971?s=46

Mara (@m_ou_se) on X

@thomasjo @awesomekling

https://t.co/U2GvVHk0XU

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kek

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Basically

Learath2

TIL about glob-expand-word. You can do C-x* (the default binding for it) to get bash to expand a glob

just <tab> in fish

ya

09:47

I can barely use bath anymore

09:47

Bash

09:47

Lol

ChillerDragon: you could set the log level to not log debug-level messages

<ChillerDragon> i need the debug log level for debugging

then what's the problem?

<ChillerDragon> i dont wanna dox my self

do you stream your development?

<ChillerDragon> yes

meloƞ

Click to see attachment 🖼️

I made a PR to Arabic script so it is LTR and not RTL. Still not accepted :^(

<ChillerDragon> i dont want to turn debug of anyways since i dont want to turn it on every time i want to debug something i want to see all the debug infos all the time. But i dont want my client log to be something sensitive.

10:00

<ChillerDragon> i think thats a sensible thing to ask for

10:00

<ChillerDragon> off*

meloƞ

Click to see attachment 🖼️

cursor gore

<ChillerDragon> @Robyt3 so many key strokes the prompt is speed. I would argue a fast prompt is more important than a fast proof.

10:01

<ChillerDragon> it will be used way more

I think it's kinda expected that debug logs contain somewhat sensitive data

<ChillerDragon> bring one user who depends on ctrl+p and cant shift to ctrl+p pro<enter> and u convinced me

perhaps you could remove that log line from your fork when you're developing

<ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 i do not expect to see my public ip in my client log. No not even when debug is on.

10:04

<ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 too much git maintenance and won't fix ddnet contributions

EGYT

I made a PR to Arabic script so it is LTR and not RTL. Still not accepted :^(

I don't like that communication style. instead of trying to reach people who may help you, you go complain into a public channel that something is wrong

<ChillerDragon> ?

10:05

<ChillerDragon> i am not following

(answer to EGYT, unrelated to you)

chiller your own net protocol when

10:07

i swear you need to hold some tw server as chat room

10:07

and talk from there via your own protocol wrapper

heinrich5991

I don't like that communication style. instead of trying to reach people who may help you, you go complain into a public channel that something is wrong

That was a joke.

tw-irc-discord proxy (edited)

EGYT

That was a joke.

woosh. that went over my head. sorry

<ChillerDragon> that wouldnt be a own protocol right? that would just be tw protocol xd

10:08

<ChillerDragon> and every tw server is already a chat room

nah these two are different statements xd

<ChillerDragon> ah

heinrich5991

woosh. that went over my head. sorry

I bet making Arabic LTR already sounds ridiculous enough to interpret it as a joke, let alone making a PR to a LANGUAGE (edited)

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<ChillerDragon> well im stalling to build my own multiplayer game since 16 years

10:08

<ChillerDragon> it would have a custom protocol

10:09

<ChillerDragon> @zhn so you want (my protocol) -> (tw server) -> (discord) ? xd

10:10

<ChillerDragon> yea that sounds good

nah nah

<ChillerDragon> no?

EGYT

I bet making Arabic LTR already sounds ridiculous enough to interpret it as a joke, let alone making a PR to a LANGUAGE (edited)

I interpreted it as making a PR to some project localization that made arabic text rendering LTR ^^

heinrich5991

I interpreted it as making a PR to some project localization that made arabic text rendering LTR ^^

Still sounds hilarious imo (edited)

<ChillerDragon> xd

i mean you should have some web service (so cross platform out of the box with ease to use) that can connect to passworded chat room tw server (with sv_register 0)

10:11

that proxied to irc

10:11

and irc is proxied to discord

10:11

so basically its the same thing you have now but with teeworlds as one step

<ChillerDragon> i love it

10:11

<ChillerDragon> im on it

justatest

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<ChillerDragon> @zhn u got a 0.7 client? xd

10:41

ChillerDragon: UwU from 0.7

10:41

<ChillerDragon> teeworlds "connect 88.198.96.203:42069"

10:44

<ChillerDragon> oh and the web service is here https://chat.zillyhuhn.com/

10:44

<ChillerDragon> ez done

ye wait lemme test troll

troll

Zohan606: wow looks funny

10:51

Zohan606: can't see the messages though

10:51

Zohan606: one-directed chat

10:52

<ChillerDragon> ye read only xd

write-only*

<ChillerDragon> eee

xd

<ChillerDragon> i didnt implement much yet

10:53

<ChillerDragon> its a basic server in ruby xd

10:54

<ChillerDragon> lemme try to hack something where you at least can see your own msgs xd

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #8566 map server settings for gamemodes other than ddrace by ddnet

It used to be possible to add any server settings to maps, now it only accepts ddnet settings. Also when opening a map with those "unkown" commands, I'm always greeted with an annoying error popup each time, even when I'm not working on a ddrace map. People are using ddnet client outside of ddrace by ddnet, because it's feature rich and updated frequently. !mapseterror1 ![mapseterror2](https://github.c...

11:08

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

d6cf127 Fix some clang warnings in the editor - ChillerDragon 60ab717 Merge pull request #8564 from ChillerDragon/pr_clang_editor - Robyt3

11:08

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8564 Fix some clang warnings in the editor

<ChillerDragon> omagwd is there any ddnet server that doesnt ban vpns? -.-

11:10

<ChillerDragon> @zhn you ready for something a bit more cursed?

11:13

<ChillerDragon> oh no dont be afk one final trol server

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<ChillerDragon> @Robyt3 so many key strokes the prompt is speed. I would argue a fast prompt is more important than a fast proof.

I don't see a difference between the speed for Ctrl+P and Ctrl+Shift+P. If you change the existing hotkey you'll anger mappers being used to it.

<ChillerDragon> yea but are there mappers used to it?

You'll find out if you anger them justatest

justatest

teeworlds bridge when?

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> @zhn you ready for something a bit more cursed?

ye sorry was playing with my brothers child

11:44

chillerdragon: what did you want to test

<ChillerDragon> ayo

11:47

<ChillerDragon> same ip

@chiller can you release a v2.0.1 for huffman, the resetter method got a fix. (edited)

<ChillerDragon> @zhn same port

11:48

-1: Welcome to Unique, visit uniqueclan.net for more info

11:48

-1:

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<ChillerDragon> xd

11:48

1: wdym runto_480

11:49

0: Русс

11:49

<ChillerDragon> ur on unique server

wtf is happening

parsing player names is a pain

11:49

that's why it's only an id

11:49

parsing from econ, at least

11:50

or is that a genuine tw client bridge :O?

isnt it like chat: <nickname>:

-1: Welcome to Unique, visit uniqueclan.net for more info

11:50

-1:

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0: this is what they call cloud gaming these days

11:51

-1: <~{Barsik}~> is not ranked

11:51

-1: 32. <~{Barsik}~> Points: 18389, requested by Zohan606

ok its kinda funny

11:51

spamming the irc though

helo

11:51

you read me ingame?

1: helo

11:52

1: xD

what is your name

1: Teero here

hey

1: :d

xD

-1: When you are rank 1 and the flag feels annoying use /showflag to hide it!

11:52

1: sadly i cant see your messages through here

not?

1: nah only on discord

:'/

btw is it implemented into the server somehow or how does one get the messages? (edited)

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1: i mean there is no one here

might be econ

11:54

I also did that using econ

<ChillerDragon> chiller unique admin confirmed

for my moderation tools discord bot

ah yea econ exists almost forgot

he just proxies all the things lol

1: <ChillerDragon> i like feet

i don't think its an actual econ

then why is our message not going through :/

because chiller didn't implement it xd

lazy bun!

0: yo teero

11:55

0: why do you say capitalism

xD

11:55

indeed

11:55

a proxy

0: uh oh

"why do you say capitalism"

1: lol it catches whisper messages

that was a whisper lmaooo

!

okay but no / commands atleast

<ChillerDragon> @jxsl13 too lazy to release xd

11:57

0: real whisper: twinbopp x louis

xDD

lol

11:58

try @ everyone ._.

<ChillerDragon> ye so the first thing was a server implemented in ruby it had support for names

11:58

<ChillerDragon> the second thing which is running now is a go proxy

jxsl13

try @ everyone ._.

irc proxy will not let you do it

<ChillerDragon> so you are connected to unique server through my vps and it intercepts chat messages

I mean from ingame

u turned it off...

11:59

bree

<ChillerDragon> everything is super bugged xd

11:59

<ChillerDragon> ok enuff trolling and spamming #developer ill shut it down

or is that coming from tw server -> irc proxy - > discord ?

twinbop x noius

Replying to @ws-client ws-client: 0: real whisper: ||twinbopp x louis||

<ChillerDragon> @jxsl13 its (your client) -> (proxy go client) -> (unique race server) -> (chat.zillyhuhn.com webhook) -> (irc) -> (discord)

12:01

<ChillerDragon> bassic messaging app

the f

<ChillerDragon> the arrows look wrong xd unqiue race server does not send to webhook

12:02

<ChillerDragon> its a branch

it's parallel, ik

12:03

proxy -> chat -> irc -> dc

<ChillerDragon> ye

12:03

<ChillerDragon> im websocket -> irc -> dc

pretty cool, that already does stuff

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1720267450.png

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12:04

<ChillerDragon> epic webhook ui

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> @jxsl13 its (your client) -> (proxy go client) -> (unique race server) -> (chat.zillyhuhn.com webhook) -> (irc) -> (discord)

wyd

<ChillerDragon> I really want to have the prompt on ctrl+p @Robyt3 -.- i will use it for EVERYTHING

cooking

12:12

buying groceries

12:13

flushing the toilet

<ChillerDragon> yes and the additional shift key makes that interaction way more complex

12:13

<ChillerDragon> its still better than mouse but its 33% more key presses

12:13

<ChillerDragon> or 50%?

12:13

<ChillerDragon> idk

12:13

<ChillerDragon> 150%?

12:13

<ChillerDragon> 1

if you go from 100% to 150%

50% more, 150% as much

it's 50% more

<ChillerDragon> its 3 instead of 2 keys

12:14

<ChillerDragon> also i can press ctrl+p while keeping both hands fully in the center of my keyboard

12:15

<ChillerDragon> ctrl+shift is unergonmic for something that initiates EVERY transaction

gotta think about the hand health of your players

<ChillerDragon> you know why the prompt in sublime is ctrl+shift+p? @Robyt3 because the important shortcut is already ctrl+p

12:16

<ChillerDragon> the file finder

12:16

<ChillerDragon> at least in vscode i thought in sublime it was the same not sure

Hello, I wanna know if it's fine if I use data from ddnet to build some sort of web ui for server select, basically I wanna try my hand at an interactive web app as a side project and idk if it's allowed to use these stuff

<ChillerDragon> you mean the assets?

vs code stole from siblime text

that too, but I meant live data from the master server mostly

sublime

<ChillerDragon> you are allowed to access master server data @Sans

nice

RikoYattaYatta

<ChillerDragon> there are a bunch of projects out there working with it already you might find a helpful base for your work if you look first

I already have my own package, although very crude still, but I feel like I can improve it if I use it in a real project

12:25

I do have a question about the client tho, how does it get the ping for servers? Does it literally just ping every single one? And also why do some of them show "EUR" for example instead of a number (edited)

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<ChillerDragon> it used to ping them directly back in the days the master would only hand out a list of ips and the client would get the details from the servers

12:27

<ChillerDragon> now since the ddnet http master your client only talks to the master and does no longer ping all servers. Thats also some ip leak protection.

12:27

<ChillerDragon> Since with the old master a user could spin up a public teeworlds server and collect the ips of all users browsing servers

ye you could just ip grab all the tw players by registering your server in masterlist back in the days

I dont recall seeing anything about ping values when I looked at a master server request

zhn

ye you could just ip grab all the tw players by registering your server in masterlist back in the days

that sounds bad xd

because master will not give you any

<ChillerDragon> so if you connect to a server it will know its ping

you can ping server only directly

^ - the server will expose it when you connect to it

So the client connects to every single server?

eur/asia/na/sa and so on are identificators based on geoip db or something

<ChillerDragon> no

12:28

<ChillerDragon> thats why you see the EUR

12:29

<ChillerDragon> i think it remembers pings from servers you connected to or something idk actually

ye it does

There's no way I connected to more than 50 servers in my entire ddnet career XD

12:29

especially asian based ones

12:29

or US

12:29

yea

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how long do you play ddnet

how old is ur client

12:30

there's an option in the browser called leak ip

nah its off by default

12:31

ig he just had old client that cached all the pings it had (did it cache in the past?)

Ewan

how old is ur client

good question, probably less than a year since I installed ddnet on this pc

ye also if you join 1 game server and other game servers have the same ip (so they are located on the same machine) you'll see others game servers pings too

that makes a lot of sense

12:32

but still, i dont get how my client knows pings for US servers

12:33

How would I go about pinging a server though

12:33

just send an http request and time it?

Joining it

Sans

just send an http request and time it?

Sure

12:34

head request

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1720269238.png

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12:34

<ChillerDragon> woah 97

Sans

just send an http request and time it?

ye but it will be ping from your server to game server

12:34

not client's latency

can do it on client xd

In the browser it's gonna be client-side, meaning the pings will come from the user that uses said web app

ah

12:35

i thought you are about to make web service (edited)

Web app

justatest

zhn

i thought you are about to make web service (edited)

nah, just some random project cuz im bored

<ChillerDragon> it stores the timestamp in the cache you can check when it stored those ips

all random project that tw had are being hosted xddd

the goal is to recreate the ddnet client server browser... but on a web browser xd

projects*

zhn

all random project that tw had are being hosted xddd

such as?

12:36

Thonk

ddstats

neat

good for ppl's bookmarks ig

12:37

I hate using the web feelsbadman

feelsbadman

https://github.com/k2d222/twwe

GitHub - k2d222/twwe: Teeworlds collaborative map editor online

Teeworlds collaborative map editor online. Contribute to k2d222/twwe development by creating an account on GitHub.

12:37

also jupstar's map preview

<ChillerDragon> https://ddstats.org/

12:37

<ChillerDragon> @Ryozuki the url linked here is down btw https://github.com/edg-l/teeobserver

GitHub - edg-l/teeobserver: This tool continuously fetches the DDNe...

This tool continuously fetches the DDNet master server and observes the changes, broadcasting the events and providing a API. - edg-l/teeobserver

this makes me wanna build something useful for ddnet and talk my way into having it hosted for free

by whom

good question

by ewan

no idea xd

Hey

surely there's some free host i can use

if you develop an account system that works the way heinrich wants it and is functional i'll carry all costs

troll

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12:39

gigachad

meloƞ

if you develop an account system that works the way heinrich wants it and is functional i'll carry all costs

bet

What is the best DDNet client

<ChillerDragon> if you sabotage ddnet accounts ill carry all costs

DDNet

SPX_Rodrig9

What is the best DDNet client

DDNet client ofc!

did he describe it anywhere

<ChillerDragon> free pink rat

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> if you sabotage ddnet accounts ill carry all costs

heh, I will now steal your ddnet name Evil

Evil

Sans

heh, I will now steal your ddnet name Evil

Evil

#3411

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3411

Accounts · Issue #3411 · ddnet/ddnet

Summary by UnlucksMcGee (thanks a lot!)

someone do it the opposite way of what Heinrich wants and I'll carry all costs

justatest

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KEKW

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<ChillerDragon> pin rat is first comment in #3411 xd

just kidding..

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> pin rat is first comment in #3411 xd

Konsti: Colo-Colo

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> pin rat is first comment in #3411 xd

pink rat best rat

I'm pretty sure the way ddnet works there's no way a login system will ever be added while also pleasing everyone

Servers aren't HTTP, so no. You would need to send a Teeworlds server browser info request, which you won't be able to make a HTTP client send as it is UDP.

Replying to @Sans just send an http request and time it?

Ewan

someone do it the opposite way of what Heinrich wants and I'll carry all costs

wait whats bad abt it

im just trolling

hmm i know nothing abt cryptography what makes a decentralized system different

i dont remember much aboug either of their prefs but i think jopsti wanted something a bit more abstract

it seems like any of the approaches can be abstracted for the average user anyways (edited)

as long as u dont rely on the user to store api key

13:29

itll be fine

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8567 [Editor] Fix various automapper issues

Fix invalid logic for skipping empty tiles in automapper Fix partial default rule search Fix reading from wrong layer when proceeding Fixes #8134 and #8526. I've tested with the provided rules from both issues and the fixes solves the issues mentioned. I also tested with some other rules that I had laying around and it seems like they did not break. However, I did not test with more large and complex automapper rules. There might be some "breaking" changes but now the logic is actuall...

any recommendation for a small dashboard service which can be hosted in a docker container pointing to some local ips.

16:54

?

16:55

for like a home page in my internal network

the js option is using nestjs with some css like bulma

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

698603d Fix various automapper issues - archimede67 aee9c72 Merge pull request #8567 from archimede67/editor-fix-automapper-issues - def-

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8567 [Editor] Fix various automapper issues

21:39

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #8134 Automapper: NoDefaultRule gives an unexpected result (does nothing) when Pos 0 0 is tested with a NOTINDEX right after

21:39

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #8526 Bug in the rules (automapper)

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