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Between 2024-07-05 00:00 and 2024-07-06 00:00

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Merhaba

Mornin

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Does the proof layer need to be visible, when opening up the tileset for selection? (space)

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10:16

Idk if it's a bug or an unintentional action

What's the current state of rust in ddnet? What parts are implemented in Rust? What types of features would be suitable to be implemented in Rust vs. C++ in the future? Is there maybe a wiki/doc page I missed about rust in ddnet?

timakro

What's the current state of rust in ddnet? What parts are implemented in Rust? What types of features would be suitable to be implemented in Rust vs. C++ in the future? Is there maybe a wiki/doc page I missed about rust in ddnet?

Well, you can say it's... rusty

Rust bindings have only been created for very low level stuff in src/base src/engine right?

10:49

So if I start work on fastcap support I shouldn't consider rust, right?

In your fork you can do what you want or what do you mean.

Replying to @timakro So if I start work on fastcap support I shouldn't consider rust, right?

i'm considering adding fastcap support to ddnet

But yea in the official code base rust is not really used. It’s more there ready to be picked up. I think heinrich has some plans for it in his bigger projects. Like quic

i see

10:51

i feel like i have to catch up on a lot of work from the past couple of years

Oh yea hm. That would be a first then. I think some were concerned that not everyone is comfortable with rust.

Replying to @timakro i'm considering adding fastcap support to ddnet

10:52

Not sure if there will be back lash.

10:52

I think basically all active devs had contact with rust already anyways or are major rust fans

deen said he'd be in for it if it's done cleanly and i commit to maintaining it, which is reasonable (edited)

10:53

there was some discussion on something heinrich is working on with rust soon

10:54

something about compatibility code

10:54

but i didn't get what it was about exactly

Yea but you would be working on core gameplay that’s a bit different imo

i'm just curious what he is planning with rust

I think Heinrich wants to fully extract all 0.7 bridge code

i see

He has libtw2 ready to be used for ddnet

10:55

You can checkout some of his rust prs

oh, the idea is to import libtw2 into ddnet?

quic for example and I think there was some rust proxy stuff

10:56

That’s more an assumption of mine

Replying to @timakro oh, the idea is to import libtw2 into ddnet?

10:58

This imports libtw2 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/6961

QUIC PoC by heinrich5991 · Pull Request #6961 · ddnet/ddnet

Still missing: timeout protection works on computers other than my own? works on windows? works for cross-compiling review protocol for segmenting messages, is there some sort of standard may...

does any of the original creators of teeworlds work at ddnet?

Who still counts as original for you?

11:18

I would consider heinrich a teeworlds creator

11:19

But only to some degree

11:20

None of the true original creators are around as far as I know

Bors Matyas

does any of the original creators of teeworlds work at ddnet?

No not really, the original group is pretty much gone

But that was before my time anyways

matricks showed up a couple months ago and gave us a bit of nostalgia

I don’t even know who the original crew was

Learath2

No not really, the original group is pretty much gone

oh ok

I saw some old images with a bunch of ppl but not sure how many very actively involved in the very beginning

11:22

That was 2001 bro @Bors Matyas

chillerdragon

I saw some old images with a bunch of ppl but not sure how many very actively involved in the very beginning

oh im intrested tho

https://wiki.ddnet.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Timeline

This is a list of remarkable events that happened during DDraceNetwork's lifetime and leading up to it. If you want to get a better overview, look at https://ddnet.org/news/ Events directly related to DDNet are marked bold.

omg Voxel is in that screenshot!

11:24

i miss him frfr

Omg, he's gonna sue us now poggers

poggers

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11:25

but ye we miss em

meloƞ

i miss him frfr

I wish i could tell him.. that... I use rust

i couldnt tell him that i use arch for months now, i feel.. empty (i'm joking, i hope he's doing well)

i use debian btw

11:35

and i had to edit prod db without backup because my version of pg_dump is too old pepeW

pepeW

troll

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Learath2

matricks showed up a couple months ago and gave us a bit of nostalgia

sadly no photos from snowy mountains xd

do we compile ddnet with mingw or msvc

13:48

i mean the official binary and steam

mingw probs

Ryozuki

mingw probs

Yes

14:18

They are cross compiled by @deen

ok

14:26

thanks

14:26

love you @fokkonaut

TsFreddie

love you @fokkonaut

love you too

TIL about glob-expand-word. You can do C-x* (the default binding for it) to get bash to expand a glob

Learath2

TIL about glob-expand-word. You can do C-x* (the default binding for it) to get bash to expand a glob

I got two strokes trying to read that (edited)

radiance cascades in ddnet when

15:01

https://80.lv/articles/radiance-cascades-new-approach-to-calculating-global-illumination/

Radiance Cascades: New Approach to Calculating Global Illumination

It is calculated anew for each frame.

is this somewhat nice traffic for a blog?

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15:33

cloudflare says different data lol

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Ryozuki

is this somewhat nice traffic for a blog?

famous

spain vs germany

16:02

spain

i want to write blogs too

16:12

but i'm too lazy and bad

poggers2

16:19

i consider myself bad at blogging xd

Ryozuki

spain vs germany

yes

peepoveryhappy

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spain wil win

LOL

17:14

I just found a GitHub Webhook Bug

17:14

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/8561

Webhook Test · Issue #8561 · ddnet/ddnet

Sent from GitHub Mobile

17:14

Issues created on the mobile app don't trigger webhooks

17:14

And closed aswell xD

Not a mobile bug, the webhook seems broken in general

17:39

https://www.githubstatus.com/

Welcome to GitHub's home for real-time and historical data on system performance.

why my beloved free sans bold is so cursed being rendered in ddnet

zhn

why my beloved free sans bold is so cursed being rendered in ddnet

can you send a screenshot?

i mean (afaik) its teeworlds 0.5 font and its kinda different from what i remember

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17:42

i know 0.5 had some font atlas script

Bold smells like it would have issues with the outline

17:42

Ok, nvm that looks extracursed

zhn

i know 0.5 had some font atlas script

but it shouldn't be so tiny imo

17:42

its bold xd

17:43

website preview looks fine too

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #8561 Webhook Test

zhn

i mean (afaik) its teeworlds 0.5 font and its kinda different from what i remember

Where did you get the font file from? I tried a random website and it looks better for me. Seems like not all unicode is supported, but for example the number-sized space before the client IDs in the scoreboard is rendered correctly (i.e. empty) and not as a replacement character for me.

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8562 Use SDL_OpenURL to open links and files on Android

Opening links and files with the open_link and open_file functions does not work on Android, as the open_link function uses fork which is not supported on Android. This also seems to cause a strange bug where client networking partially breaks. Currently, after trying to open any link, connecting to servers is not possible anymore but the server browser still works, with the connection getting stuck randomly in the connecting/loading state. SDL implements URL opening, including of ...

17:53

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #8561 Webhook Test

Sent from GitHub Mobile

thonk

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Robyt3

Not a mobile bug, the webhook seems broken in general

LOL

Somehow your issue travelled in time

the webhook felt insulted after reading your message

thonk

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Robyt3

Where did you get the font file from? I tried a random website and it looks better for me. Seems like not all unicode is supported, but for example the number-sized space before the client IDs in the scoreboard is rendered correctly (i.e. empty) and not as a replacement character for me.

there https://fonts2u.com/free-sans-bold.font, can you provide more reliable source please?

Free Sans Bold font | Fonts2u.com

zhn

there https://fonts2u.com/free-sans-bold.font, can you provide more reliable source please?

Hmm, I used the same file. How did you add it to the client?

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8562 Use SDL_OpenURL to open links and files on Android

18:20

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

b05ca91 Use SDL_OpenURL to open links and files on Android - Robyt3 398dc7e Merge pull request #8562 from Robyt3/Client-Open-Link-SDL - def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8563 Fix server crash when starting with random(_unfinished)_map

See #8559.

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#us...

By the way, it didn't get into the client :^(

Replying to @GitHub GitHub: > def- […]

18:46

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if I update thst everyone gets notified

Oh well, then it's not really worth it (edited)

19:08

Planning on supporting Ukrainian l10n for now, maybe will even do something for other languages too

Robyt3

Hmm, I used the same file. How did you add it to the client?

pasted into data/fonts and redacted index.json

19:39

changed default line

zhn

pasted into data/fonts and redacted index.json

Did you also add the font filename to the list of files? The value for default must be the family name of the font (FreeSans Bold)

19:43

I guess it shows the fallback font for you since it can't find the default font

huh wait seems i typed family name wrong

The correct family name should be printed as debug message to the console if your loglevel is high enough, when you add the font file to the list

19:45

D textrender: Loaded font face 0 'FreeSans Bold' from font file 'fonts/FreeSansBold.ttf'

so yep seems problem was with fallback font

20:05

thank you! free sans bold feels so much better to use

20:06

it misses a lot of unicode symbols though xd

20:10

xd

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zhn

it misses a lot of unicode symbols though xd

I thiiink we have either a way to fall back for symbols or maybe a tool to patch fonts with atleast our ui symbols

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

ecafa10 Fix server crash when starting with random(_unfinished)_map - Robyt3 fb6a6cc Merge pull request #8563 from Robyt3/Server-Random-Map-Crash - def-

22:40

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8563 Fix server crash when starting with random(_unfinished)_map

<ChillerDragon> huh not sure what i would ever need it for but its a cool flex when someone is watching you xd @Learath2 but something i noticed while trying that is that i get some weird selections of text by spamming ctrl+x xd

Learath2

I thiiink we have either a way to fall back for symbols or maybe a tool to patch fonts with atleast our ui symbols

Make a symbols-only font and set that as the highest priority?

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> huh not sure what i would ever need it for but its a cool flex when someone is watching you xd @Learath2 but something i noticed while trying that is that i get some weird selections of text by spamming ctrl+x xd

I wanted to delete all files in a folder but one

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