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GitHub BOT 2024-07-03 00:33:30Z
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7769 Extend "list" messages with item number field
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what is your rating [0-10]?
Learath2 2024-07-03 00:38:15Z
I forgot to reply to this. I’d say about 7
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-03 00:47:13Z
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fokkonaut
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #8552 Client Redirect: Send Pong back when successfully received Redirect msg
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 01:24:38Z
When twmap-go @Patiga
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3 2 1 ryo tells how slow c++ hashmaps are 😬
Ryozuki 2024-07-03 06:03:11Z
they slow
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Ewan 2024-07-03 06:32:58Z
gm
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chillerdragon
When twmap-go @Patiga
Patiga 2024-07-03 07:40:18Z
:p
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 08:11:36Z
Im serious -.- if you don’t know already how I’m sure lerato and Heinrich can give you some hints on how to do rust to go bindings (edited)
Replying to @Patiga :p
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 08:16:09Z
why don't you use python or rust to access twmap?
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porting it to go will be very hard, especially since go is very much against interoperating with other languages
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louis 2024-07-03 08:18:36Z
are there any ddnet steam deck mains?
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-03 08:22:19Z
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Learath2
[ddnet/ddnet-discordbot] Issue opened: #85 Duplicate ticket number
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-discordbot/blob/ac4e07d1c9e1006f8cef39b292decb16812f95ef/cogs/ticketsystem/buttons.py#L44 Need to wrap this function with a lock
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heinrich5991
porting it to go will be very hard, especially since go is very much against interoperating with other languages
Learath2 2024-07-03 08:23:47Z
It's not as bad if you just bite the bullet and use cgo
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 08:24:35Z
I bet ChillerDragon would want a "native solution"
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they weren't happy with my libtw2-huffman python package, because it used rust under the hood
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Learath2 2024-07-03 08:25:03Z
😄
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 08:39:20Z
Because I am currently trying to build a tw ecosystem for go enjoyers. So that when the monthly random new dude comes into #developer asking „can I build a client using language xyz“ the answer is yes :)
Replying to @heinrich5991 why don't you use python or rust to access twmap?
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I wouldn’t ask patiga for a native one. I was expecting bindings.
Replying to @heinrich5991 I bet ChillerDragon would want a "native solution"
08:40
„they“ xd
Replying to @heinrich5991 they weren't happy with my libtw2-huffman python package, because it use…
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Learath2 2024-07-03 08:42:42Z
If twmap already has a c api, it shouldn't be too hard to write a small cgo wrapper around it
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 08:42:44Z
I am happy with your Huffman package and use it on a daily basis. It’s just that I want the twnet_parser library to „just work“ out of the box. 0 dependencies and 0 headache. And native bindings historically cause issues at least every 3 full moons. And they increase the entry of barrier for people wanting to quickly get something done or try something out.
Replying to @heinrich5991 they weren't happy with my libtw2-huffman python package, because it use…
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Yep that’s what I mean
Replying to @Learath2 If twmap already has a c api, it shouldn't be too hard to write a small …
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twnet_parser will automatically use libtw2 Huffman if it finds it. But it won’t break if it’s not installed.
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Learath2
If twmap already has a c api, it shouldn't be too hard to write a small cgo wrapper around it
heinrich5991 2024-07-03 09:01:58Z
twmap doesn't have a C API, it has a Rust API and a Python API
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(AFAIK)
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Learath2 2024-07-03 09:02:28Z
Then it is a bit of work to first define a C API
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 09:05:06Z
marshalling complex data over C FFI sounds like pain
09:05
for libtw2-huffman, I used https://github.com/mozilla/uniffi-rs/ to generate python bindings
GitHub - mozilla/uniffi-rs: a multi-language bindings generator for...
a multi-language bindings generator for rust. Contribute to mozilla/uniffi-rs development by creating an account on GitHub.
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(and ruby bindings)
09:06
apparently, you can also use it for go bindings
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(but twmap sounds too complicated to nicely fit into such a wrapper)
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 09:13:15Z
because is is an Ehren-Chillerdragon
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 09:21:12Z
did you release a gem? did i miss that?
Replying to @heinrich5991 (and ruby bindings)
09:21
https://github.com/ChillerDragon/huffman-tw
GitHub - ChillerDragon/huffman-tw: The teeworlds C++ huffman compre...
The teeworlds C++ huffman compression code wrapped as a ruby gem - ChillerDragon/huffman-tw
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this thing is a bit cursed for sure xd
09:22
@heinrich5991: another candidate for lawyer5991 ^
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chillerdragon
did you release a gem? did i miss that?
heinrich5991 2024-07-03 09:26:23Z
hmm. apparently I didn't release the ruby gem. but it should be trivial to build from the libtw2 repository, since it already has uniffi integration
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and uniffi allows to publish packages for kotlin, swift, python, ruby, go and c#
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 09:27:43Z
go publish then
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 09:31:06Z
would you be interested in using it? if not, it'd be not very high in my priority list
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 09:33:15Z
shouldnt be that much work right? you gotta do more marketing for your libtw2 stuff
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I would probably swap out my C++ wrapper in https://github.com/ChillerDragon/teeworlds_network but i barley work on it and my C++ actually just works so no need.
GitHub - ChillerDragon/teeworlds_network: A teeworlds 0.7 network p...
A teeworlds 0.7 network protocol library written in ruby - ChillerDragon/teeworlds_network
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how do i build it from source?
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-03 09:42:36Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8548 Fix warning non-canonical implementation of on an Ord type in rust.rs
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 10:14:20Z
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i kinda made it work xd
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i love about ruby that you can just add debug prints into the ffi gem to understand whats going wrong xd
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chillerdragon
Im serious -.- if you don’t know already how I’m sure lerato and Heinrich can give you some hints on how to do rust to go bindings (edited)
Patiga 2024-07-03 10:15:35Z
I thought you were kidding, I simply don't have the time to maintain bindings for every language ^^
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and I personally have no interest in go rn :/
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 10:16:42Z
chillerdragon: nice! how did you do it?
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 10:17:23Z
lots of hacks im not proud of xd
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 10:17:40Z
did you follow the manual?
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Learath2 2024-07-03 10:17:56Z
Everyone should just make C bindings for everything. We just don't have any other common point between languages 😄
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 10:18:15Z
we have other common points, e.g. this uniffi thing
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 10:18:18Z
kinda plus some freestyle xd
Replying to @heinrich5991 did you follow the manual?
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so i did a bunch of try and erroring to get this one to spit me out a ruby file cargo run --features=uniffi/cli --bin uniffi-bindgen generate src/libtw2_huffman.udl --language ruby
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 10:18:36Z
there's also COM on windows
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 10:18:46Z
then cargo build to get a .so file
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 10:18:56Z
nice 🙂
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 10:19:14Z
and then i was reading the ffi source code which revealed that on linux it does not search for .so files xd
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so i set LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. and renamed the .so file to match what is loaded in the ruby file
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heinrich5991
we have other common points, e.g. this uniffi thing
Learath2 2024-07-03 10:20:20Z
mh, it's one directional
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 10:20:22Z
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very trol of the ffi gem devs if you ask me
10:21
on mac it finds shared libs in /opt/homebrew/lib and on linux you gotta set the LD_PATH but i assume i could move the .so file into some /usr/lib folder and it would work too xd
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Learath2 2024-07-03 10:21:39Z
homebrew being hardcoded inside a library is insane to me
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 10:21:55Z
yea right it should be macports instead
10:21
who even uses homebrew
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Learath2
Everyone should just make C bindings for everything. We just don't have any other common point between languages 😄
heinrich5991 2024-07-03 10:22:00Z
creating C bindings sucks. C interfaces are not expressive enough. there's not even a slice type, so all has to rely on convention
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(I say this as someone creating C bindings ^^) (edited)
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heinrich5991
creating C bindings sucks. C interfaces are not expressive enough. there's not even a slice type, so all has to rely on convention
Learath2 2024-07-03 10:22:29Z
I 100% agree, but there is nothing better, so that's what we should do for our libraries
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 10:22:41Z
meh. I think stuff like uniffi is better
10:22
there are also similar projets
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Learath2 2024-07-03 10:25:17Z
What other projects do you know of?
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 10:26:17Z
hmmm. the readme links two other "export rust libs to other languages"
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I thought there might be more general things, but I can't think of them right now
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(thinking about it, e.g. dotnet and the jvm have very nice ecosystems)
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wasm is a step back there, since there's no good API except "lol, do what C does"
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-03 10:32:00Z
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heinrich5991
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #8554 "My IGN" is wrong if the player hasn't explicitly set their name
It reads from the config variable, but the name can be derived from the Steam name, too.
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Learath2 2024-07-03 10:32:11Z
I don't like that uniffi requires these interface files. I couldn't really put in words how I'd want it to work
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 10:32:32Z
they work without, too
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but I actually like these interface files
10:32
makes it very explicit what you export, like C headers (edited)
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Learath2 2024-07-03 10:32:59Z
I would love it if ffi would be just completely transparent as long as it involves types that map cleanly between the two languages
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Something like a versioned unified abi would be nice, wrappers would then just be annotated function declarations telling the compiler that it should call this symbol with uabi_0_0_1 convention
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Maybe every pointer that crosses the abi boundary would also be tagged as either caller or callee managed, so stuff like smart pointers can be passed through
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-03 10:41:19Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8555 Fix IGN in copy info
Fixes: #8554

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
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  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#us...
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Learath2
Maybe every pointer that crosses the abi boundary would also be tagged as either caller or callee managed, so stuff like smart pointers can be passed through
heinrich5991 2024-07-03 10:54:49Z
also things about nullability
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pointers should probably not be nullable by default
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pointers should probably not be nullable by default
zhn 2024-07-03 11:11:36Z
so, references?
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 11:29:12Z
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wtf libldap?
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why
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Bors Matyas 2024-07-03 11:46:30Z
can you add vote kick to 128 player server?
11:48
why i cant see somebody who is literally hooking me?
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zhn
so, references?
heinrich5991 2024-07-03 11:56:35Z
that's what C++ calls them
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-03 12:23:18Z
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heinrich5991
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8556 Use Client()->PlayerName() for copied server info
Fixes #8554. Alternative to #8555.

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
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  • [ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https:/...
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 12:41:19Z
egyt: is that you? https://bgammon.org/blog/20240701-the-first-ten-thousand-games/
The first 10,000 games at bgammon.org
An overview of the journey so far.
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Learath2 2024-07-03 13:22:03Z
I have determined that I really don't enjoy using any ORMs at all
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It's just far more trouble than it's worth if you know how to use SQL, you just struggle to get it to generate the query you want it to generate
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-03 13:29:22Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8555 Fix IGN in copy info
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deen 2024-07-03 13:30:11Z
Who wants to implement 128 player client support? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/8542
Add 128 player support from F-DDrace by fokkonaut · Pull Request #8...
Hey, this Pull Request will add support for 128 (n) clients at the same time. Good for t0 maps, Multeasy, modders, etc. It's based on my implementation in F-DDrace, where it works pretty flawle...
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egyt BOT 2024-07-03 13:35:36Z
Yes, it's me (edited)
Replying to @heinrich5991 egyt: is that you? https://bgammon.org/blog/20240701-the-first-ten-thous…
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 13:36:34Z
cool 😮
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chillerdragon
who even uses homebrew
Avolicious 2024-07-03 13:44:57Z
i am using homebrew 😦
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 13:45:48Z
chillerdragon: many people who are using mac computers
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-03 13:47:09Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
77054c1 Use Client()->PlayerName() for copied server info - heinrich5991 610381d Merge pull request #8556 from heinrich5991/pr_ddnet_ign - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8556 Use Client()->PlayerName() for copied server info
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #8554 "My IGN" is wrong if the player hasn't explicitly set their name
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Bors Matyas
why i cant see somebody who is literally hooking me?
Gumba 2024-07-03 13:50:51Z
Its just an experiment, the client was hardcoded to 64 players, problems are identitified now and will get fixed over time
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 13:51:56Z
omagawd avo and heino it was a joke about macports being relevant not a serious statement about homebrew xd
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Xlebok 2024-07-03 13:52:37Z
guys, who knows how to add server command to fng?
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 13:52:54Z
which fng code do you use ?
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do you have a github link maybe @Xlebok ?
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Xlebok 2024-07-03 13:53:06Z
eee. from github?)
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 13:53:13Z
ye
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go send
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Xlebok 2024-07-03 13:53:23Z
i think i can find it, wait
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 13:54:04Z
by server command you mean the admin console not chat right?
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chillerdragon
omagawd avo and heino it was a joke about macports being relevant not a serious statement about homebrew xd
Avolicious 2024-07-03 13:55:40Z
You are archlinux user, I dont trust your jokes
troll 1
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But its nice to see that you have a network driver. How was your experience installing it? pepeH
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zhn 2024-07-03 13:56:09Z
would you trust nix user
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zhn
would you trust nix user
Avolicious 2024-07-03 13:56:15Z
Never
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zhn 2024-07-03 13:56:26Z
ye watch out your back avo
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chillerdragon
by server command you mean the admin console not chat right?
Xlebok 2024-07-03 13:56:55Z
chat 🙂
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zhn
ye watch out your back avo
Avolicious 2024-07-03 13:57:10Z
Damn. Nix detected, communication rejected
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chillerdragon
go send
Xlebok 2024-07-03 13:57:14Z
https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod.git
GitHub - Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod: FNG mod for teeworlds, that adv...
FNG mod for teeworlds, that advances the original FNG idea by golden spikes and other features - Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 13:57:16Z
is this a arch joke? xd
Replying to @Avolicious But its nice to see that you have a network driver. How was your experie…
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zhn 2024-07-03 13:57:18Z
yeee chillerdragon programming video comes
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 13:57:23Z
Sent from my debian BTW
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i am taking one year break from arch
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Avolicious
Damn. Nix detected, communication rejected
zhn 2024-07-03 13:57:34Z
nah im arch user, but my friends started to stick to nix for no reason
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chillerdragon
Sent from my debian BTW
Avolicious 2024-07-03 13:57:43Z
Because you havent managed to install a networking driver on your Arch? 🤣
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chillerdragon
is this a arch joke? xd
Avolicious 2024-07-03 13:58:02Z
Yes
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 13:58:29Z
@Xlebok: found your code yet? xd
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Xlebok 2024-07-03 13:58:44Z
ye, and already sent?ops
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Avolicious 2024-07-03 13:58:47Z
If you are into archlinux, your "os experience" is heavily broken. Hard to believe that people enjoy this type of pain
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 13:58:48Z
having the code is step 0
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step 1 is compile
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Xlebok
https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod.git
Xlebok 2024-07-03 13:58:52Z
here
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 13:58:59Z
and then you can think about adding a chat command
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if you send me the code repo i can send you links to the files you want to change @Xlebok
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Avolicious
If you are into archlinux, your "os experience" is heavily broken. Hard to believe that people enjoy this type of pain
heinrich5991 2024-07-03 13:59:33Z
my arch is doing fine, thank you
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heinrich5991
my arch is doing fine, thank you
Avolicious 2024-07-03 13:59:38Z
😄
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 13:59:41Z
0.6
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chillerdragon
if you send me the code repo i can send you links to the files you want to change @Xlebok
Xlebok 2024-07-03 13:59:50Z
to add chat command i need to change files😬? (edited)
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 13:59:51Z
0.6 fng in 2024
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yikes xd
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Avolicious 2024-07-03 14:00:23Z
But @heinrich5991, how would you describe archlinux in terms of usability & user oriented
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But @heinrich5991, how would you describe archlinux in terms of usability & user oriented
heinrich5991 2024-07-03 14:00:54Z
it's a system I can understand. I haven't had to reinstall an arch linux because it was broken ever
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unlike windows or debian
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Avolicious 2024-07-03 14:01:08Z
How did you break debian? Seems like an edge-case, no?
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chillerdragon
if you send me the code repo i can send you links to the files you want to change @Xlebok
Xlebok 2024-07-03 14:01:11Z
im not so smart, tell me what i need to send DX
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Avolicious
If you are into archlinux, your "os experience" is heavily broken. Hard to believe that people enjoy this type of pain
Learath2 2024-07-03 14:01:50Z
Your "os experience" with these kinds of distros is as broken or as streamlined as you make it
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It's a blank slate for you to do whatever you like
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:02:10Z
you sent good
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Avolicious
How did you break debian? Seems like an edge-case, no?
heinrich5991 2024-07-03 14:02:13Z
distro upgrades
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:02:20Z
did you compile the code already @Xlebok ?
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Your "os experience" with these kinds of distros is as broken or as streamlined as you make it
Avolicious 2024-07-03 14:02:48Z
I get that point, where you want to have control over every aspect of your system. But using Nix sounds like writing configuration files all day long
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:02:50Z
gotta add your command here https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod/blob/793d30e29d638e69315a78d1b47e898fea8d735d/src/game/server/gamecontext.cpp#L1872-L1879
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heinrich5991
distro upgrades
Avolicious 2024-07-03 14:03:02Z
Mhmmm. I never experienced that to be fair
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chillerdragon
did you compile the code already @Xlebok ?
Xlebok 2024-07-03 14:03:03Z
i have changes some of autoexec.cfg . I think in here it had name fng.cfg
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:03:13Z
and add its implementation like so
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https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod/blob/793d30e29d638e69315a78d1b47e898fea8d735d/src/game/server/gamecontext.cpp#L1269-L1299
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Avolicious 2024-07-03 14:03:27Z
I had some problems with debian in the past with Lenovo, but thats just because Lenovo is kinda weird
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:03:34Z
and also a matching thingy here https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod/blob/793d30e29d638e69315a78d1b47e898fea8d735d/src/game/server/gamecontext.h#L195-L199
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compiling the code and editing the autoexec is something different @Xlebok doing it for the first time can be quite an adventure
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https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod/blob/793d30e29d638e69315a78d1b47e898fea8d735d/src/game/server/gamecontext.cpp#L1269-L1299
Xlebok 2024-07-03 14:05:01Z
wot is this, i dont understand anything there
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:05:20Z
i am using arch and debian since a few years i would not say arch is more pain. At least it wasnt so far.
Replying to @Avolicious If you are into archlinux, your "os experience" is heavily broken. Hard …
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you are aware that to add a new chat command you have to write code right? :D
Replying to @Xlebok wot is this, i dont understand anything there
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you are aware that to add a new chat command you have to write code right? :D
Xlebok 2024-07-03 14:06:18Z
yea aahhah
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:06:28Z
there are three places where all chat commands are defined in the same structure you can add a new one
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I get that point, where you want to have control over every aspect of your system. But using Nix sounds like writing configuration files all day long
Learath2 2024-07-03 14:06:30Z
I haven't used nix, but I have used artix and gentoo for very long now. They both involve a very long and tedious setup process and adding stuff onto your setup requires good knowledge. For gentoo and arch adding/removing stuff is usually as trivial as any normal distro, the harder part is adding what one might call "os features". You need to know where/how stuff hooks
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:06:44Z
but make sure to get the compiliation to work first @Xlebok
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Xlebok 2024-07-03 14:07:09Z
i think im not getting that command, all i can code is some arduino on c++ (edited)
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Learath2 2024-07-03 14:07:35Z
"very long and tedious" is 100% dependant on your experience level though, I can get an artix system set up in about as long as it takes for me to set up ubuntu, double that for gentoo, double it again if gentoo on a machine I haven't used before
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:08:43Z
apt uninstall --purge * or have an nvidia gpu xd
Replying to @Avolicious How did you break debian? Seems like an edge-case, no?
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but make sure to get the compiliation to work first @Xlebok
Xlebok 2024-07-03 14:08:52Z
but thanks for info 🙂
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i really thought its much easier. like add vote. you can add vote in that cfg
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:09:36Z
how would you add a command in the cfg
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you need to describe what it does xd
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@Xlebok: i made a 30 minute video going a bit more in detail if you are curious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou7EGMJxmOY
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Teeworlds programming #009 - simple server side chat commands
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Xlebok 2024-07-03 14:10:13Z
like to addd vote, you are describing what to vote for, so you can describe what the command is making to. but np
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:10:23Z
its teeworlds 0.7 and not your 0.6 jopsti fng but its similar concepts
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Xlebok 2024-07-03 14:10:47Z
0.6 its like old? i should update it somehow?
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:12:09Z
0.7 released 6 years ago
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Xlebok 2024-07-03 14:12:15Z
oh
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:12:26Z
if you use the official ddnet client you still use 0.6
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if you use the official ddnet client you still use 0.6
Xlebok 2024-07-03 14:12:43Z
a. i do.
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:12:57Z
because ddnet devs dont want to press the update button
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axaxax
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because ddnet devs dont want to press the update button
meloƞ 2024-07-03 14:13:11Z
justatest
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:14:00Z
on a more serious note i would recommend using some ddnet based fng server which also has a built in bridge to support 0.7 player connections as well @Xlebok
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on a more serious note i would recommend using some ddnet based fng server which also has a built in bridge to support 0.7 player connections as well @Xlebok
Xlebok 2024-07-03 14:14:37Z
where to get it?)
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:14:42Z
first hit when i search for "ddnet fng" https://github.com/Inateblig/dfng
GitHub - Inateblig/dfng: dfng, a teeworlds mod based on ddnet code,...
dfng, a teeworlds mod based on ddnet code, inspired by fng - Inateblig/dfng
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not sure how good it is
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Xlebok 2024-07-03 14:15:00Z
thx!
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 14:16:08Z
but since most players use ddnet anyways a 0.6 server also works
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you just have to understand that 0.7 then can not join
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 14:17:33Z
(not a lot of players play on 0.7 though)
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you just have to understand that 0.7 then can not join
Xlebok 2024-07-03 14:17:37Z
im using only lan server, not a big fng servers. My friends dont have any launchers but steam one. So i dont need it?
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 14:18:17Z
you don't need 0.7 support for that
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everyone can play with the ddnet client on a 0.6 server
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Xlebok 2024-07-03 14:19:03Z
thank you guys:)
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Bors Matyas 2024-07-03 15:06:53Z
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is this really 512?
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zhn 2024-07-03 15:07:57Z
check it
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but looks like honeypot ip grabber server
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egyt BOT 2024-07-03 15:12:21Z
I even wrote an essay on translations for them
Replying to @heinrich5991 cool 😮
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Still sad that I didn't appear in 18.3 changelog for overhauling Ukrainian localisation and engaging with translation stuff overall
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I am actually thinking of becoming a translator instead of a programmer, especially considering the fact that my future employee might restrict me from doing open source (if programming will be my job, I mean) and the fact that I haven't made a single program yet, but I have an expirience of translating videos, etc.
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Still sad that I didn't appear in 18.3 changelog for overhauling Ukrainian localisation and engaging with translation stuff overall
heinrich5991 2024-07-03 15:15:15Z
ping deen about it or ask someone to do it
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egyt BOT 2024-07-03 15:16:34Z
too shy to ask >_<
Replying to @heinrich5991 ping deen about it or ask someone to do it
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deen 2024-07-03 15:17:22Z
@EGYT Hm, so far we never listed localization in the changelog
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But since you rewrote the entire translation I guess we can make an exception?
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 15:18:09Z
yea, let's do it for the complete overhaul
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-03 15:18:56Z
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
3e68a12 Update release notes - def-
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egyt BOT 2024-07-03 15:20:00Z
False, check changelog for 16.3.2 and 17.2.1 (edited)
Replying to @deen EGYT Hm, so far we never listed localization in the changelog
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deen 2024-07-03 15:20:41Z
That was a full new language 😄
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 15:20:54Z
- [Client] Add Esperanto language [dannyhpy]
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egyt BOT 2024-07-03 15:21:05Z
Okay, then fair
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zhn 2024-07-03 15:21:20Z
its time to keep game untranslated to come somewhen after and translate everything in a month xd
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egyt BOT 2024-07-03 15:22:40Z
that's a bad advice
Replying to @zhn its time to keep game untranslated to come somewhen after and translate …
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-03 15:31:08Z
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 15:34:04Z
i would love to help with translations, but deen's first action is to always add german translation to a new RC kek
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might do some more on wiki ig
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 15:39:41Z
yea, many software projects are already completely translated into german ^^
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 15:52:26Z
Found the irc issue finally
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Im muted
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So is the bridge
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zhn 2024-07-03 15:52:38Z
kek
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 15:52:43Z
@heinrich5991: sos
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There was a network blip and everyone lost their write role
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irc is dead ever since
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 15:54:07Z
fixed
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ChillerDragon BOT 2024-07-03 15:54:08Z
pog
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can i get ws-client and bridge too
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ah wait
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 15:54:28Z
some spammer abused IRC so I set +m
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ChillerDragon BOT 2024-07-03 15:54:30Z
you set the mode not me
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globally
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sure that also works
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 15:54:45Z
<ChillerDragon> ping
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 15:54:51Z
Pong
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 15:54:57Z
<ChillerDragon> we so back!
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<ChillerDragon> finally
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 15:55:14Z
seems like some error handling would be good for your clients
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if they didn't tell you that +m was the problem
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ChillerDragon BOT 2024-07-03 15:55:36Z
err_cannotsendtochan
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404
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from my js lib
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#ddnet: Cannot send to channel from weechat
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 15:55:58Z
but it wasn't shown to the user?
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ChillerDragon BOT 2024-07-03 15:56:23Z
oh no took me 1 day talking to the void to figurure out nobody sees my messages xd
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 15:56:41Z
oof. error handling!
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 15:56:57Z
<ChillerDragon> but then when i looked in the logs i did not know what was causing err_cannotsendtochan
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<ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 i am always a bit hesitant to just pipe any kind of error which i dont really know its format of to the users
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<ChillerDragon> might leak some infromation i dont want to leak
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 15:59:52Z
did you at least send any error to the user?
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 15:59:58Z
<ChillerDragon> no xd
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 16:00:13Z
then send a redacted error
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:00:27Z
<ChillerDragon> sounds good
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<ChillerDragon> i am not sure if in general my fear is even justified
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<ChillerDragon> but a error means i messed something up and something unexpected happend and my users now know exactly what. That should make it easier to further exploit.
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<ChillerDragon> or the backtrace might straight up contain /home/moms_maiden_name/code/proj/lib.js:8 Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token '{'
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ryuma 2024-07-03 16:03:22Z
Hey, is this chat about DDNet related stuff only or can I ask some other questions about like gaming and hardware?
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:03:46Z
<ChillerDragon> will you use the hardware for ddnet?
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<ChillerDragon> will you use the hardware for ddnet?
ryuma 2024-07-03 16:03:50Z
Yes
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:03:58Z
<ChillerDragon> then its perfectly on topic
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:04:14Z
we talk about general hardware all the time, ask away!
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<ChillerDragon> or the backtrace might straight up contain /home/moms_maiden_name/code/proj/lib.js:8 Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token '{'
heinrich5991 2024-07-03 16:05:30Z
ChillerDragon: I'd give the most detailed error message to the user
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:05:55Z
<ChillerDragon> yea thats nice
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<ChillerDragon> but isnt it also scary?
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 16:07:27Z
e.g. I do that in the https masterserver for ddnet
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try curl -i https://master1.ddnet.org/ddnet/15/register
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:08:30Z
<ChillerDragon> Did you write the string HTTP method not allowed ?
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:09:01Z
isnt that just the regular 405 response?
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:09:17Z
<ChillerDragon> passing on errors from an unknown source to the user might contain any information
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 16:09:26Z
I did not write that message, ChillerDragon
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(you can see the mastersrv code, it's just three files or so)
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:10:04Z
<ChillerDragon> i can't come up with a good example right now but can't you imagine a scenario where you see an error message and your first thought is "nice now i know exactly how to fully break the system"
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<ChillerDragon> security by obsecurity
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<ChillerDragon> i rather not reveal that i am running pyson 2 in my crash logs
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zhn 2024-07-03 16:10:58Z
write a better software chiller xd
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:11:08Z
<ChillerDragon> fakof abuse admin 5991 muted me -.-
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<ChillerDragon> i had no bugs
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<ChillerDragon> fakof abuse admin 5991 muted me -.-
meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:11:46Z
justatest
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zhn 2024-07-03 16:12:33Z
i mean its better for your programs to be able to reveal error messages to its users
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you'll know whats going wrong at least
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:12:53Z
<ChillerDragon> i as the admin of the tool can check the logs
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<ChillerDragon> and if there is a bug that can be exploited i want my users to know nothing about it
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zhn 2024-07-03 16:13:08Z
imagine if its not web service kekw
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:13:30Z
isnt it possible for you to find out that a channel has the +m flag and just output that for example?
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zhn 2024-07-03 16:13:34Z
if someone wants to break your system theyll do it anyway
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:13:34Z
<ChillerDragon> well if its not a server and running on the users device then its a different story
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 16:13:44Z
then at least tell your server that some error occured
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:13:58Z
<ChillerDragon> ye that sounds good
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<ChillerDragon> im just curious if anyone can follow my thought here
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<ChillerDragon> how error details can be dangerous
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<ChillerDragon> @meloƞ i had the error in the logs i didnt know what it meant
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ryuma 2024-07-03 16:15:38Z
So I build a gaming PC back in 2020 and I am looking to either upgrade my hardware or build a new PC. I have some knowledge about this stuff, but I am not in to the market so I am not sure if I should wait for new parts to drop or if the prices are currently too high. My current build: Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE Radeon™ RX 5700 XT NITRO+ 8GB Mainbord: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS CPU: RYZEN 5 3600X CPU Cooler: BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 3 Ram: 16 GB Corsair Vengeance 3600mhz (XMP Optimized) My last two builds were both AMD and I am still unsure to this day whats better, if I should maybe try out NVIDIA/INTEL. I never had any problems with AMD and I think the prices are pretty fair for what you get, but I still don't understand why the majority of people are on NVIDIA/INTEL builds. Maybe I am lacking information about this topic, but it would be nice to know if I should actually try out NVIDIA/INTEL. I would like to upgrade/build a new PC that can handle atleast 260fps @ 1080p in all sorts of games since I have a 240hz Monitor.
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:17:05Z
<ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 here u go i will do it some day xd https://github.com/discord-irc/irc-websockets/issues/11
notify the front end if there was an irc error · Issue #11 · discor...
the irc client might receive errors. This could mean that the message was not sent. The user should know about it.
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zhn 2024-07-03 16:17:17Z
i jsut don't see anything that you can break in irc-proxy lol
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nuclear codes or what xd
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:18:05Z
<ChillerDragon> its more the vps its running on
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So I build a gaming PC back in 2020 and I am looking to either upgrade my hardware or build a new PC. I have some knowledge about this stuff, but I am not in to the market so I am not sure if I should wait for new parts to drop or if the prices are currently too high. My current build: Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE Radeon™ RX 5700 XT NITRO+ 8GB Mainbord: MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS CPU: RYZEN 5 3600X CPU Cooler: BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 3 Ram: 16 GB Corsair Vengeance 3600mhz (XMP Optimized) My last two builds were both AMD and I am still unsure to this day whats better, if I should maybe try out NVIDIA/INTEL. I never had any problems with AMD and I think the prices are pretty fair for what you get, but I still don't understand why the majority of people are on NVIDIA/INTEL builds. Maybe I am lacking information about this topic, but it would be nice to know if I should actually try out NVIDIA/INTEL. I would like to upgrade/build a new PC that can handle atleast 260fps @ 1080p in all sorts of games since I have a 240hz Monitor.
meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:18:05Z
amd is gonna release Zen 5 soon™️ - i am enjoying my current build (even tho it was pretty pricely, given i maxxed it out, but its full AMD aswell) - if you just want to upgrade, i would absolutely grab another stick of 16gb RAM to get at 32gb, newer games eat that for some reason, the rest still looks good enough tho - are you having fps issues on newer games? (edited)
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:18:09Z
<ChillerDragon> that should not be pwned
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zhn 2024-07-03 16:18:33Z
how can you pwn it via irc-proxy watafak
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:18:51Z
chiller just likes to pwn things
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:19:08Z
<ChillerDragon> @zhn yes if the error message reveals some log4j kind of situation
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zhn 2024-07-03 16:19:08Z
rest in peace chillers formatted rpi4
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:19:13Z
<ChillerDragon> xd
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:19:21Z
kek
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<ChillerDragon> @zhn yes if the error message reveals some log4j kind of situation
zhn 2024-07-03 16:19:21Z
just run it in docker
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:19:38Z
<ChillerDragon> docker is not meant for security
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<ChillerDragon> but i also dislike it
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:19:46Z
what is unsafe about docker :o
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zhn 2024-07-03 16:19:50Z
no you just dislike it
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it fits there perfectly
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:20:02Z
<ChillerDragon> its not designed to be a secure sandbox
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<ChillerDragon> but yes in reality docker exploits are rare but real
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<ChillerDragon> it for sure adds some layer of protection
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zhn 2024-07-03 16:20:37Z
they're real in cases when pwner has access to your machine
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or your docker container runs with privileges it shouldnt run with
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and you never lift privileges if you are not working with some specific software
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<ChillerDragon> but yes in reality docker exploits are rare but real
meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:21:42Z
maybe look into smth like this then: https://kubernetes.io/docs/concepts/workloads/pods/ (edited)
Pods
Production-Grade Container Orchestration
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amd is gonna release Zen 5 soon™️ - i am enjoying my current build (even tho it was pretty pricely, given i maxxed it out, but its full AMD aswell) - if you just want to upgrade, i would absolutely grab another stick of 16gb RAM to get at 32gb, newer games eat that for some reason, the rest still looks good enough tho - are you having fps issues on newer games? (edited)
ryuma 2024-07-03 16:22:11Z
My build is still perfectly fine and everything runs flawless, but I have fps problems in some games. Its pretty weird, for example: I have 1000fps in Minecraft (without shaders and texturepack) but only 180-220fps in Valorant even tho I play on lowest possible settings and this is pretty annoying for me. Note: I have Windows + Games on a NVME M.2 SSD
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maybe look into smth like this then: https://kubernetes.io/docs/concepts/workloads/pods/ (edited)
archimede67 2024-07-03 16:22:30Z
/de #pods-verwenden
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:22:36Z
ah gg german link
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sry
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archimede67 2024-07-03 16:22:45Z
gg
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:22:46Z
<ChillerDragon> i dont speak beerlang
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My build is still perfectly fine and everything runs flawless, but I have fps problems in some games. Its pretty weird, for example: I have 1000fps in Minecraft (without shaders and texturepack) but only 180-220fps in Valorant even tho I play on lowest possible settings and this is pretty annoying for me. Note: I have Windows + Games on a NVME M.2 SSD
zhn 2024-07-03 16:22:51Z
valorant just sucks ig xd
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:22:54Z
chiller is prolly the most german of us all
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archimede67 2024-07-03 16:22:59Z
do you really read technical stuff in german @meloƞ
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:23:03Z
<ChillerDragon> schnitzel
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zhn 2024-07-03 16:23:04Z
doesn't it require kernel mode malware to run
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do you really read technical stuff in german @meloƞ
meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:23:08Z
yes :(
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archimede67 2024-07-03 16:23:10Z
wtf
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:23:30Z
<ChillerDragon> i would not use containerization for anything serious
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<ChillerDragon> i dont like its complexity
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doesn't it require kernel mode malware to run
meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:23:49Z
not afaik
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:23:53Z
<ChillerDragon> its full of pain points
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zhn 2024-07-03 16:23:53Z
you will use no error handling xd
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:24:16Z
but tbh im not that familiar with containerization in general, reitw could speak hours about that
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:24:18Z
chiller review pr
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:24:24Z
simp btw
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:24:46Z
<ChillerDragon> pyjama dragon is alr falling asleep jxsl
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My build is still perfectly fine and everything runs flawless, but I have fps problems in some games. Its pretty weird, for example: I have 1000fps in Minecraft (without shaders and texturepack) but only 180-220fps in Valorant even tho I play on lowest possible settings and this is pretty annoying for me. Note: I have Windows + Games on a NVME M.2 SSD
ryuma 2024-07-03 16:24:55Z
@meloƞ not sure if you missed it c:
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not afaik
zhn 2024-07-03 16:25:00Z
i couldn't run valorant only because this kernel mode shit refused to run on my custom windows
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:25:01Z
give feedback so I can continue D:
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:25:10Z
<ChillerDragon> uff
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<ChillerDragon> i have a look 1s
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zhn 2024-07-03 16:25:55Z
@ryuma nvidia has better drivers to go with, windows + nvidia = high fps usually
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My build is still perfectly fine and everything runs flawless, but I have fps problems in some games. Its pretty weird, for example: I have 1000fps in Minecraft (without shaders and texturepack) but only 180-220fps in Valorant even tho I play on lowest possible settings and this is pretty annoying for me. Note: I have Windows + Games on a NVME M.2 SSD
meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:25:56Z
i did! lol - you could just check your task-manager and see what is actually bottlenecking - your specs look great so i either assume: the GPU is outdated for valorant | your RAM is getting capped | riot games is a bully
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:26:12Z
<ChillerDragon> ye its fucked either way @jxsl13 i dont like violating golang core ideals
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:26:37Z
keep or rename?
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:26:51Z
<ChillerDragon> uff
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<ChillerDragon> lets go full camel?
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<ChillerDragon> DdnetExItem
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<ChillerDragon> xd
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meloƞ
i did! lol - you could just check your task-manager and see what is actually bottlenecking - your specs look great so i either assume: the GPU is outdated for valorant | your RAM is getting capped | riot games is a bully
ryuma 2024-07-03 16:27:36Z
Alright, I'll check that out. Thank you o7
dab 1
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:27:50Z
Ddnet should be called Ddnet, true
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:28:07Z
<ChillerDragon> ofc
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:28:17Z
k, imma change it then
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:28:20Z
<ChillerDragon> xD
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:28:21Z
Dummydragracenetwork
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yes.
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:28:31Z
gotta focus on reader
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which is more tricky it seems
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zhn 2024-07-03 16:28:41Z
KirbyGameMod
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:28:43Z
reader impl
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:29:05Z
<ChillerDragon> EndOfFileSymbol
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<ChillerDragon> ez dodge
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:29:11Z
freezenextgeneration
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my next pr is gonna be done without the shift-key now
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:30:25Z
<ChillerDragon> i think its time to abandon go
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<ChillerDragon> it doesnt align with ddnet style guide xd
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:31:05Z
it's time to abandon ddnet
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:31:11Z
<ChillerDragon> I mean they explicitly mention "Url" and "appID" being illegal
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:31:15Z
doesn't align with Go style guide
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no
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appID is legal
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Url not
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:31:41Z
<ChillerDragon> eh ye "appId" right
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<ChillerDragon> and since the heinrich format moment ddnet enforces Url and ClientId
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<ChillerDragon> justatest
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 16:32:17Z
what PR @jxsl13
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:32:33Z
<ChillerDragon> i retrained my brain from years of ClientID to ClientId and now you tell me i have to ClientID again? xd
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:32:35Z
huffmann repo of chiller
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:32:50Z
<ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 this is annoying me https://go.dev/wiki/CodeReviewComments#initialisms
Go Wiki: Go Code Review Comments - The Go Programming Language
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:33:15Z
might have started a holy war
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by accident
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:33:28Z
justatest
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i go shopping - gl
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heinrich5991 2024-07-03 16:33:36Z
ChillerDragon: rust says the opposite
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:33:47Z
<ChillerDragon> good ol rust vs go
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<ChillerDragon> is rust even that oppiniated?
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:33:53Z
time to abandon
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rust
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xD
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:34:35Z
<ChillerDragon> why can't i have just one universal strict guide for style so i never have to think about it again
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:34:42Z
why is there not magical AI doing the code formatting and introducing security related bugs at the same time
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:34:44Z
<ChillerDragon> use one formatter
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:34:47Z
no*
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:34:53Z
<ChillerDragon> and call the main branch MASTER in all git repos
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<ChillerDragon> axaxax
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meloƞ 2024-07-03 16:35:14Z
master branch doesn't exist, did you mean main ahh moment
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:35:51Z
<ChillerDragon> just let there be one way for everything
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:36:12Z
Go does that but whenever people find ground about stuff being unprecise or not easily tonautomate, then people will argue about it forever.
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waste of time
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<ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 this is annoying me https://go.dev/wiki/CodeReviewComments#initialisms
Learath2 2024-07-03 16:38:21Z
Golang authors have very decent taste in code
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:39:01Z
<ChillerDragon> ok fk it lets follow ddnet style and not go
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<ChillerDragon> EOFSymbol would mean that it should be ClientID and MsgID
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:41:38Z
changed, don't care
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whatever you prefer.
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just added a little bit of context information
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as the language is opinionated
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will cry to all Go devs about our loss in this small battle.
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xD
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:44:08Z
<ChillerDragon> xd
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meloƞ
i did! lol - you could just check your task-manager and see what is actually bottlenecking - your specs look great so i either assume: the GPU is outdated for valorant | your RAM is getting capped | riot games is a bully
ryuma 2024-07-03 16:46:27Z
This is what it looks like when im running Valorant. FPS ranging from 180-300 - comes to what is happening on my screen obviously. I am using AMD's replay feature and I have other apps open in the back which I don't want to give up, so I guess im just gonna get another 16GB of Ram and a new CPU. (edited)
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:47:54Z
<ChillerDragon> so ready to merge @jxsl13 ?
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:48:03Z
sure
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will continue implementing the Reader in a second PR in order not to make this one too big
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hm, some evil eof lingering somewhere
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D:
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:49:32Z
<ChillerDragon> xD
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<ChillerDragon> i had that compile error on a daily basis with MsgID
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<ChillerDragon> thats why i pushed https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/7750
Yet another meta variable naming discussion: SoundID/SoundId MsgID/...
We use ClientID all over the code base. Also SoundID and MsgID is used. But then there is also MsgId and SoundId. I propose to stick to ID everywhere and get rid of all Id.
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<ChillerDragon> as long as it is allowed to do both there will be compile errors caused by casing
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 16:51:29Z
pushed
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Go devs are mournin my loss
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xD
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 16:55:45Z
<ChillerDragon> speaking of style guides..
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<ChillerDragon> if you write js you better use double standard
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<ChillerDragon> https://github.com/Flet/doublestandard
GitHub - Flet/doublestandard: ‼️ feross/standard but with e...
‼️ feross/standard but with even more semicolon goodness - Flet/doublestandard
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 17:01:08Z
sorry
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but I have double standards
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GitHub BOT 2024-07-03 17:11:42Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8557 Fix rustup toolchain overrides not working with MSVC
Use the build folder as the working directory for the cargo build so rustup overrides of individual build folders are respected.

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
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Mʎɹ シ 2024-07-03 19:06:42Z
After a long pause I did this xd Greedy meshing in teeworlds
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✞ 2024-07-03 19:20:15Z
Devs are u guys know abt tik tok ddnet
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where all upload videos abt ddnet
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 19:20:55Z
@ChillerDragon you awake?
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MilkeeyCat 2024-07-03 19:30:23Z
Ladies, gentlemen and @Learath2 look at that!
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Mʎɹ シ
After a long pause I did this xd Greedy meshing in teeworlds
Patiga 2024-07-03 19:34:22Z
heh nice :D
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you group together tiles with the same rotation+id?
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Mʎɹ シ
After a long pause I did this xd Greedy meshing in teeworlds
jxsl13 2024-07-03 19:35:55Z
can you explain what that is in layman's terms :o?
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Patiga
you group together tiles with the same rotation+id?
Mʎɹ シ 2024-07-03 19:36:24Z
This is first version, only tiles with same id, maybe I will add check for flags
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jxsl13
can you explain what that is in layman's terms :o?
Mʎɹ シ 2024-07-03 19:38:37Z
Grouping a lot of triangles (polygons) to this small groups. More triangles = more GPU work & more RAM/VRAM usage
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Patiga 2024-07-03 19:38:59Z
have you done performance measurements? :)
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Mʎɹ シ 2024-07-03 19:39:53Z
Nope, I just checked fps on vulkan and opengl on debug build. Same fps with greedy meshing and without
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Idk why xdd
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 19:40:39Z
is that for rendering purposes in the client to improve fps or something like that?
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is that for rendering purposes in the client to improve fps or something like that?
Mʎɹ シ 2024-07-03 19:40:49Z
ye
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 19:40:54Z
hm , cool
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Patiga 2024-07-03 19:41:38Z
have you tried zooming out far? there you could probably get the biggest performance diff
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 19:42:31Z
kinda reminds me of that shader loading stuff that big games do. might be the same here, just based on the played map?
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have you tried zooming out far? there you could probably get the biggest performance diff
Mʎɹ シ 2024-07-03 19:42:35Z
Ye, I thought about this, but I'm so lazy for test this rn
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kinda reminds me of that shader loading stuff that big games do. might be the same here, just based on the played map?
Mʎɹ シ 2024-07-03 19:42:55Z
Wdym?
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 19:43:42Z
when starting some graphics intensive games, they always do shader stuff ._. dunno the terms
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which takes ages and is supposed to improve performane, whatsoever
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is this related to that :o?
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could one improve performance based on like the currently loaded map?
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when starting some graphics intensive games, they always do shader stuff ._. dunno the terms
Mʎɹ シ 2024-07-03 19:45:23Z
Maybe shaders just compiling or caching? Greedy meshing optimizing mesh, not shaders
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 19:45:30Z
i guess both
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hm, k, I see
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jxsl13
could one improve performance based on like the currently loaded map?
Mʎɹ シ 2024-07-03 19:46:12Z
You need just reconnect for cache all meshes for map
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 19:46:29Z
that's cool
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Mʎɹ シ 2024-07-03 19:49:41Z
Hm, if I'll add chromium to teeworlds, this means what I can play teeworlds in teeworlds 🤔
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MilkeeyCat
Ladies, gentlemen and @Learath2 look at that!
Learath2 2024-07-03 20:58:29Z
Yes I am an agendered blob of slime and I approve of this compiler
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Ewan 2024-07-03 21:19:12Z
😃
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zhn 2024-07-03 22:06:08Z
@fokkonaut hey did you find the way around targetx/y zoom problem?
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 22:50:00Z
No tell me more
Replying to @✞ Devs are u guys know abt tik tok ddnet
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I think something went viral a bit which increased player count. deen mentioned that iirc
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Replying to @Mʎɹ シ Nope, I just checked fps on vulkan and opengl on debug build. Same fps w…
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:12:55Z
<ChillerDragon> why did you add this btw @jxsl13 https://github.com/teeworlds-go/huffman/blob/b632fb8631af0ef31d72c36a9fed1e1001496b4c/.github/workflows/main.yml#L17-L22
huffman/.github/workflows/main.yml at b632fb8631af0ef31d72c36a9fed1...
Teeworlds huffman compression library. Contribute to teeworlds-go/huffman development by creating an account on GitHub.
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:14:49Z
syntax check on readme.md changes usually not that interesting for compulation
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compilation
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so there is a global variable that is called DefaultDictionary
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that is initialized with the default teeworlds frequencies upon package initialization and is more or less global state which is reused for for every constructor that does not take a custom dictionary.
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that is why the tree/dictionary is not initialized upon every huffmann.Compress/Decompress call.
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 23:20:58Z
Ah nice
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:21:01Z
a pointer is passed around
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 23:21:18Z
Well the readme was full of bugs so it’s checked in CI too now
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I don’t see the disadvantage of the default CI what’s the problem of the CI running when just a config or text file was changed?
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:22:04Z
wasting resources
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 23:22:15Z
So you are saving the planet? Xd
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:22:34Z
I do my part 😄
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in a rational way
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 23:22:46Z
Sure fine with me. Just took me 1 CI run to debug why the README.md wasn’t triggering CI
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:24:51Z
can you release a new version if possible
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tag
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-07-03 23:25:12Z
Ok
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:25:31Z
should not exactly break the api except for the small behavioral change where empty slices are accepted as well
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and init is gone ._.
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:25:59Z
<ChillerDragon> wot init
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:26:00Z
breaks api lil bit
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the method
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:26:11Z
<ChillerDragon> a
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<ChillerDragon> was never user facing
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:26:28Z
well
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minor version bump .__.
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btw
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you can click on the godoc reference badge
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and jump straight to docs 😄
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:29:17Z
<ChillerDragon> nono we went straight to 2.0.0 @jxsl13 the user never called Init but the api changed
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<ChillerDragon> ye i noticed its cool @jxsl13
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:29:48Z
major updates are slightly harder
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can you remove the tag again
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:30:22Z
<ChillerDragon> nope :p
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<ChillerDragon> why
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:30:23Z
add a /v2 suffix in the go.mod
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:30:26Z
<ChillerDragon> we can just tag again
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<ChillerDragon> aaaa
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:30:42Z
and then add the tag again if I'm not mistaken
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I'm usually below v1 in order to introduce breaking changes whenever I want, cuz lazy
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TsFreddie 2024-07-03 23:31:24Z
catxplosion
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:31:25Z
x)
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:31:26Z
<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1720049474.png
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<ChillerDragon> you mean this?
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TsFreddie 2024-07-03 23:31:43Z
chillerdragon: how do I quit my job
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:31:44Z
yes
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:31:52Z
<ChillerDragon> axaxaxa @TsFreddie u alr did
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:31:56Z
I mean that suffix exactly
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TsFreddie 2024-07-03 23:32:00Z
ok then
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:32:37Z
<ChillerDragon> time to send heinrich an email again xd
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:34:31Z
eeh
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all imports need also to be fixed
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<ChillerDragon> time to send heinrich an email again xd
TsFreddie 2024-07-03 23:34:55Z
what? you can do that?
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:34:56Z
<ChillerDragon> i just noticed wtf thats annoying af
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:34:57Z
throughout the code to have that /v2 suffix
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:35:06Z
<ChillerDragon> thanks for the warning -.-
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:35:09Z
that's a major change for you xD
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:35:12Z
<ChillerDragon> i guess we ping heinrich again
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:35:20Z
https://go.dev/doc/modules/major-version
Developing a major version update - The Go Programming Language
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and update the readme D:
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/v2@latest
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._.
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Kaya 2024-07-03 23:37:09Z
Translate yapabiliyormu
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:37:24Z
denied
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Kaya 2024-07-03 23:37:32Z
Okey
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:39:22Z
<ChillerDragon> i will get banned from go packages one day for sure
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<ChillerDragon> i renamed the protocol repo 3 times on github my lsp auto import was trippin hard
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<ChillerDragon> now i recreated one tag 3 times xd
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:39:59Z
ad long as nobody pulled
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is fine xD
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or imported
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._:
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lemme fix the readme
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:41:27Z
<ChillerDragon> the latest didnt work sos
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<ChillerDragon> thank
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:44:22Z
I don't even know where that's coming from
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xD
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hard tabs
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:44:40Z
<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1720050267.png
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<ChillerDragon> me neither
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<ChillerDragon> discord banned me from seeing their images
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:45:20Z
rip
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:45:33Z
<ChillerDragon> common discord L
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:45:51Z
gimme rot access to yout image server thingy
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root
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:46:02Z
<ChillerDragon> justatest
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:46:04Z
so that I can upload my screenshot
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:46:05Z
<ChillerDragon> that is my vps
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:46:06Z
xd
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:46:16Z
<ChillerDragon> i upload with scp
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<ChillerDragon> i saw now
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<ChillerDragon> ye that is go fmt for you @jxsl13
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<ChillerDragon> if you break format in readme the CI will slap your ass now
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:48:30Z
indeed
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:48:41Z
<ChillerDragon> your electron editor seems opinionated about tabs vs spaces in a fakin markdown file xd
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:50:11Z
that's vs code D:
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I literally don't even know where that's coming from
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:50:39Z
<ChillerDragon> have you tried emacs?
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:50:41Z
first time seeing
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I heard of emacs
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and then I used sublime text and now vs code
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will not touch anything else for now
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opened a pr
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:51:37Z
<ChillerDragon> merged
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:52:40Z
ci works, nice
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retag?
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:52:55Z
<ChillerDragon> poggers2
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<ChillerDragon> no
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<ChillerDragon> its only readme change
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:52:59Z
:'/
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:53:08Z
<ChillerDragon> the build was already passing on the last commit
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:53:10Z
that's godoc relevant readme
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:53:16Z
<ChillerDragon> omagawd xd
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:53:24Z
it's versionng the docs
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:53:24Z
<ChillerDragon> nah we fix it in v3
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:53:27Z
pls
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:53:32Z
<ChillerDragon> omg i did
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:53:33Z
lord
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:53:35Z
<ChillerDragon> so many rlses
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:53:38Z
xD
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:53:44Z
<ChillerDragon> im brushing my teeth sec
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jxsl13 2024-07-03 23:54:16Z
now let me do my go do url magic
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go doc
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to update go docs
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:'/
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ws-client BOT 2024-07-03 23:57:48Z
<ChillerDragon> i wonder if heinrich got 5 emails now xd
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<ChillerDragon> rlsd
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