Why cant i host my own lan server and it shows me some errors when i could do that easily before my windows reinstall

Mattiteusz

Why cant i host my own lan server and it shows me some errors when i could do that easily before my windows reinstall

you could say what the errors say

14:13

then we would not need to guess

makes sense

14:14

E register/7/ipv4: ERROR: configure your firewall/nat to let through udp on port 8303.

14:14

E register/6/ipv4: ERROR: the master server reports that clients can not connect to this server.

14:14

I console: failed to open 'myServerconfig.cfg'

did u add "myServerconfig.cfg" to your autoexec.cfg?

im not sure

14:16

i will check

14:17

I have a autoexec_server.cfg

14:18

where is autoexec.cfg located

Mattiteusz

I have a autoexec_server.cfg

u can check in that file, it's for servers

Use a config file to execute whenever a map is changed

sv_reset_file "reset.cfg" this one?

14:23

i dont see anything else in servers

Jupstar ✪

did u add "myServerconfig.cfg" to your autoexec.cfg?

its added by default, he just has to create the file myServerconfig.cfg in the same directory

in %appdata%/ddnet?

meloƞ

its added by default, he just has to create the file myServerconfig.cfg in the same directory

so it does not lead the server to exit?

14:24

else there must be more errors in the console i guess

no

nah in %appdata% ddnet i dont even have autoexec_server.cfg file

14:24

i got it in steamapps ddnet

its basically a "couldnt execute this file you want me to execute" - but it wont stop @Mattiteusz you have the autoexec_server.cfg in steamapps/common/DDraceNetwork/ddnet/data

it doesnt matter anyway

14:26

i thought the server exists bcs the config does not exist

14:26

but then the server exists bcs of a different problem

meloƞ

its basically a "couldnt execute this file you want me to execute" - but it wont stop @Mattiteusz you have the autoexec_server.cfg in steamapps/common/DDraceNetwork/ddnet/data

@Mattiteusz will the server actually exit? or just not register need some more info :P

What do you mean by that? Only thing that i can do is press start server in ddnet then command prompt opens but i cant find it in LAN server list

start the server and paste the log or send it via DM please! also check that you have 0 filters on since they also work on the LAN tab!

okay

Mattiteusz

What do you mean by that? Only thing that i can do is press start server in ddnet then command prompt opens but i cant find it in LAN server list

can u press F1 and type connect localhost and then ENTER

14:29

after the server is open ofc

thanks for help

14:32

that works

ok then it's most likely that the windows update added a firewall rule to prevent packets to arrive to your localhost. or an anti virus system does that. Dunno if u could fix that too, but u can also always connect via localhost

Nidardø

bureaucracy, missed capacity for make it possible cuz the support would get so much to do. I also think that it would scare off new players if its done like on kog. I personally think that it wouldnt be worth it. Maybe its good for anticheat. Im not into cybersecurity but I could imagine that with loginstuff it can be very dangerous to lose the name+password or pressing the login-bind on a vanilla server which leads to reveal these datas.

I've argued this to the point of being banned after calling him an insane liar when he admitted he made stuff up about how the servers are administered to look good in marketing. Its not gonna change but what needs to be done is for DDnet set up a few KoG servers. Currently hundreds of players are playing "DDnet Oldschool" servers on "AIP Gores" map as an alternative and Im sure they wold love a server where the maps you choose from aren't mixed in with DDNet maps.

17:23

There are a few small communities but they dont have the reach so their servers are never full.

17:25

In regards to bad actors, currently "Logged in" players can't be kicked from KoG servers which lets them spam votes, and considering that people still wait over a week to get regisered the mods are overburdened. Besides, 90% of people who join the KoG discord leave the moment they get their accounts, which is why their Bot messages are full of people leaving "jokingly" being banned. The othe main bad actor problem are all the people DDOSing KoG Servers for legitimate or illegitimate grievances stemming from the change in moderation processing, ban length, accounts etc. Was a problem before too, but never this big.

ddos is never legitimate

First of all, not true (Though probably true for Teeworlds). Second of all the reasons for the DDOSing when left with no recourse as the administration team is a locked sect with no community insight and their "cheat detection" is proprietary and doesn´t provide feedback could lead to players feeling so frustrated that they resort to illegitimate actions

Achul

First of all, not true (Though probably true for Teeworlds). Second of all the reasons for the DDOSing when left with no recourse as the administration team is a locked sect with no community insight and their "cheat detection" is proprietary and doesn´t provide feedback could lead to players feeling so frustrated that they resort to illegitimate actions

"he made me feel bad so i punched him in the face" ?

17:28

moderation is hard, and if their anticheat is flawed so be it - but please dont say they have to "resort" to illegitimate actions ^^

They dont have to, but they do. And they otherwise may not have.

Achul

First of all, not true (Though probably true for Teeworlds). Second of all the reasons for the DDOSing when left with no recourse as the administration team is a locked sect with no community insight and their "cheat detection" is proprietary and doesn´t provide feedback could lead to players feeling so frustrated that they resort to illegitimate actions

#7 Don't promote or encourage illegal activities - Includes botting/cheating. i guess ddosing falls under this rule

Not encouraging it. Explaining it or rather that the administration burden has grown exponentially since they resorted to their path of action.

17:32

So it has not solved "illegitimate" actors. In fact they are at the process of adding second tier locked private servers funded by donations to allow people to rent them and thus avoid DDOS:ers partly that way.

17:32

Or at least were, Im not keeping track of it anymore.

it sounds good that they're trying to address the DDoS problem

They are trying to address it the way you would address school shooters by adding armed guards and metal detectors.

what? no

Achul

Not encouraging it. Explaining it or rather that the administration burden has grown exponentially since they resorted to their path of action.

justifying it

DDoS is never legitimate

not only is DDoS never legitimate, its protection is expensive as hell! XD (edited)

Way to argue the emotion and not the point. Im done.

meloƞ

not only is DDoS never legitimate, its protection is expensive as hell! XD (edited)

unfortunately not expensive

sorry i type way faster than i think, forgot the "protection" part

17:34

:D (edited)

Just consider doing something about your 300 players playing AIP Gores if you woud be so kind.

move them to kog

Achul

Just consider doing something about your 300 players playing AIP Gores if you woud be so kind.

look at the multeasymap players - we also tried to move them to our servers, didnt work :P

if they like gores, they're encouraged to play KoG. they'll probably find it eventually

KoG has one laggy main public Europan server, maybe two running. Why not add more Gores exclusive servers through DDNet?

284 players... not bad

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17:38

Achul

KoG has one laggy main public Europan server, maybe two running. Why not add more Gores exclusive servers through DDNet?

why not add ddrace to kog

17:38

same energy

Its not fair to these players that do not want or cant play on KoG servers.

Achul

Its not fair to these players that do not want or cant play on KoG servers.

i also hate it

17:38

i only play main gores since they added accounts

keep in mind KoG and DDNet are seperate communities - KoG maps are free to download off of their website, why dont host a server yourself? ^^

I mean I dont understand the hatred/dislike for people that play DDrace / Gores or vice versa.

meloƞ

keep in mind KoG and DDNet are seperate communities - KoG maps are free to download off of their website, why dont host a server yourself? ^^

no pro would join some random server

Achul

I mean I dont understand the hatred/dislike for people that play DDrace / Gores or vice versa.

there's no hatred from DDNet's official side (edited)

Jupstar ✪

no pro would join some random server

i would

Pretty much what Jupstar says. It needs enough people/infrastructure to compete seperately

17:40

There are already a few very stabile servers like Legion and Quack but they are too small with no discord (working on 1 discord) to really compete

17:40

Anyway the interest is clearly there, could be an idea to try opening a few to let people have an alternative

that sounds a lot cooler than ddnet trying to squash all community servers

meloƞ

keep in mind KoG and DDNet are seperate communities - KoG maps are free to download off of their website, why dont host a server yourself? ^^

how can i host the server

KoG admins squashed their own community in a way, including previously banning dozens of established players using a publicly unverifiable tool that they later unbanned without specifying if they were wrong or not. The person that runs it now claims private ownership, old map testers have been excluded or have resigned in protest etc

heinrich5991

that sounds a lot cooler than ddnet trying to squash all community servers

u say that bcs u like ddrace.. i'd prefer if gores is a part of ddnet

Its just hard to compete with something established, just as people have noticed when it comes to competing with othr established internet products from twitter to facebook to anything really. This is a smaller scale

Jupstar ✪

u say that bcs u like ddrace.. i'd prefer if gores is a part of ddnet

gores != KoG :o jupsti!

Jupstar ✪

u say that bcs u like ddrace.. i'd prefer if gores is a part of ddnet

no. I also like Gores

cool

meloƞ

gores != KoG :o jupsti!

yes, but @Achul means adding gores to ddnet

17:43

not merge kog with ddnet

@heinrich5991 the last time i've seen you play was when we played on stronghold 4, when join us on some hammerhit action on back in time 3!

at least i understand him like that

Achul

Its just hard to compete with something established, just as people have noticed when it comes to competing with othr established internet products from twitter to facebook to anything really. This is a smaller scale

then we'd make it a lot worse by adding it to ddnet. then it'd be even harder to compete

Well DDnet could be the alternative I guess. You already are the alternative, its just that people are stuck playing AIP Gores or guessing which map is Gores and which isnt if they try to vote on the oldschool server

17:45

But I understand it would make it even harder for small communities, thats a good counter argument that should be weighed

and then there are non-communty servers.. they are basically dead now xD

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i'd find it weird if ddnet hosted KoG maps aswell, that might just create a conflict against these communities.

Jupstar ✪

and then there are non-communty servers.. they are basically dead now xD

by what metric?

17:47

seems like 20% of the players are on non-community servers

17:47

currently

meloƞ

i'd find it weird if ddnet hosted KoG maps aswell, that might just create a conflict against these communities.

true, but tbh kog simply has a different way of moderating.. but tbf both sides are kinda hard to argue against their moderation

KoG was a lot more chill in the past. Even in the past when Avo ran it

heinrich5991

seems like 20% of the players are on non-community servers

u gotta exclude DDPER tho

17:48

they kinda special

17:48

i dunno my fng servers are basically always empty now

heinrich5991

seems like 20% of the players are on non-community servers

that's wrong, read the numbers the wrong way

But they had an idea, they have a huge plan now. And they just rammed it through in all directions. They increased the number of players and discord members artificially and so increased the moderation burden on themselves

17:49

which caused a lot of backlash on mods for slow responses, responses made even more necessary because of the account system which made them even more harsh etc

17:49

So its nothing like the chill place it was 5+ years ago

17:49

or even 3+

heinrich5991

that's wrong, read the numbers the wrong way

8% of players are on non-community servers

heinrich5991

8% of players are on non-community servers

excluding DDPER?

What id DDPER btw? How do you get into it? x.X why do they have their own client?

17:50

or is it behind an Iranian firewall?

Achul

What id DDPER btw? How do you get into it? x.X why do they have their own client?

the question is: WHY is DDPER allowed?

17:50

they require a custom client

17:50

that's so stupid

yeah pretty much my question tho I suspect it might have to do with Iranian gov firewalls? Maybe?

17:50

I dunno

i dunno, but they should just make their own master servers

17:51

or use a different protocol

yea. someone should work with them to let them create their own masterservers

Whats the third biggest client besided Teeworlds and DDNet? I forgot its name

17:51

Its like got its own servers too

17:51

like ore advanced ddnet

tclient, fclient

no its like it has its own thing I think

Jupstar ✪

excluding DDPER?

then it's just 4.5%

Achul

no its like it has its own thing I think

oh then i dunno

17:52

dd-pg

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17:52

Achul

Its like got its own servers too

there is a client that has a real money shop and stuff, are you talking about that one?

17:53

i think it was posted in developer and bashed to bits by ewan iirc °-°

Nah I just faintly remember this client with which you could join advanced DDNet maps that had advanced features or somehting

17:53

that you couldnt otherwise

17:53

but i might have just had a teeworlds dream

oh no idea

great dream

Haha

17:54

oh man its the onlly way i can beat insane maps

17:54

tho I beat a few brutal ddnet maps with ppls help at least xD

17:54

My favourite map is TinyStronghold but nobody plays it

Achul

My favourite map is TinyStronghold but nobody plays it

horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible map! - but i respect your dedication

meloƞ

horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible map! - but i respect your dedication

shots fired

I just suck at hammerflying

17:55

I fucking try to learn it

17:55

but i cant steet

17:55

steer

17:55

Tiny is so tiny there isnt much flying haha

you can practice steering with dummy!

yah thatd be a good idea

bind that and off you go

Oh dont need anymore than that?

17:57

nice

17:58

Anyway if its just 4.5% I dont know if its worth being worried about just to protect that. ITs probably even a smaller percentage when it comes to gores themselves

17:58

But I think its a valid concern and if thats the main reason then its cool. Just a bit sad for all those ppl

After some time on the servers I experience connection problems, but when I connect the dummy it has no such problems. What does this have to do with?

Is AllTheHaxx client still working/use x) ? (used to play on it haha, dunno if it's allowed now)

the newest version is allowed (edited)

oh nice

Where I can found good configs?

how often does the DDNet bot update how many points people have? when I send $points command it says I have 3.6k but I have more than that now.