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дмитрий
а как вернуть аккаунт в ддрейс
в дднет нету аккаунтов, только в коге и блок сервера
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дмитрий 2024-05-25 06:16:13Z
а поинты тогда что (edited)
06:16
или похуй на них
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Ryozuki
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me when i go to a "party"
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дмитрий
а поинты тогда что (edited)
Они привязаны к нику
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дмитрий 2024-05-25 07:18:06Z
а в чем тогда их прикол
07:18
или всем похуй на них
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с кем можно поиграть одному скучно (я новичок)
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zachem
с кем можно поиграть одному скучно (я новичок)
я могу я тоже новечок
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joni_2210
ок
А с каких пор ты настолько популярен, что тебе люди в ноги бросаются, лишь бы получить скрин?)
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Nik_Hard
А с каких пор ты настолько популярен, что тебе люди в ноги бросаются, лишь бы получить скрин?)
ну я же крутой
09:06
вот поэтому клан создал
09:06
потом когда популярность
09:06
нету клана
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дмитрий
а поинты тогда что (edited)
остаются на нике
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moante
я могу я тоже новечок
го
13:36
cute
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Ham5terzilla (Макс) 2024-05-25 14:53:10Z
@Vappy kog-level gamemode online again and reworked, dev asks for test
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godot (edited)
greenthing 1
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ᵍᵒᵈˡʸ 2024-05-25 18:21:50Z
@Learath2 its Ukraine too (edited)
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@Learath2 its Ukraine too (edited)
The first one I would have misguessed as turkey. It really has an istanbul vibe
18:23
Knowing it's ukraine it looks too empty to be istanbul, but that's cheating
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Learath2
The first one I would have misguessed as turkey. It really has an istanbul vibe
ᵍᵒᵈˡʸ 2024-05-25 18:24:04Z
No
18:24
18:24
Its Istanbul
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Learath2
Knowing it's ukraine it looks too empty to be istanbul, but that's cheating
ᵍᵒᵈˡʸ 2024-05-25 18:24:18Z
Bc war
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ᵍᵒᵈˡʸ
Bc war
Where in Ukraine is that btw?
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Learath2
Where in Ukraine is that btw?
ᵍᵒᵈˡʸ 2024-05-25 18:25:20Z
Its Kyiv
18:25
Im from kiev kyiv
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Looks beautiful
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ᵍᵒᵈˡʸ 2024-05-25 18:27:09Z
Yea (edited)
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Bc war
did u move to turkey bcs of war?
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Learath2
Looks beautiful
beykoz area in istanbul is beautiful
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Long time no see @Tezcan How are you?
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I'm doing good, just not active at all lately 😅 How about you?
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Tezcan
I'm doing good, just not active at all lately 😅 How about you?
I'm fine aswell. I don't get to play much nowadays either. Busy with work and stuff
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Jupstar ✪
did u move to turkey bcs of war?
ᵍᵒᵈˡʸ 2024-05-25 18:43:02Z
Bc i dont want be near Bakhmut
18:43
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Jupstar ✪
did u move to turkey bcs of war?
ᵍᵒᵈˡʸ 2024-05-25 18:43:13Z
Yes
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ᵍᵒᵈˡʸ
Bc i dont want be near Bakhmut
understandable
18:44
hope u doin fine in turkey
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apparently there are lab salmon already?
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Jupstar ✪
hope u doin fine in turkey
ᵍᵒᵈˡʸ 2024-05-25 18:46:18Z
50%
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Im miss my skill
18:46
All new players think what im noob
18:46
But my ping so bad
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lmao
18:46
yeah ddnet is everything, good opinion
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Jupstar ✪
yeah ddnet is everything, good opinion
ᵍᵒᵈˡʸ 2024-05-25 18:47:03Z
Ye
18:47
I played 1500+hours for 9 months in ddnet
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how do i tell my company that i want to leave because i think everyone is bad at their job without telling them exactly that
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ᵍᵒᵈˡʸ 2024-05-25 18:48:31Z
Idk
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TsFreddie
how do i tell my company that i want to leave because i think everyone is bad at their job without telling them exactly that
"I'm stressed"
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thats what ive been saying but they keep trying to "de-stress" me
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TsFreddie
how do i tell my company that i want to leave because i think everyone is bad at their job without telling them exactly that
"I am overpaid, I don't like that, bye"
18:49
they will be confused
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and u are gone
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i mean i could just stop showing up i guess
18:50
but i kinda dont want to ruin existing relationship with the team.
18:50
but the management is making it really hard for me to leave properly
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TsFreddie
how do i tell my company that i want to leave because i think everyone is bad at their job without telling them exactly that
Why not just say it? Tell them you feel your coworkers are bad and are dragging you down
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CEO keep trying to schedule meetings with me but they are always about how the company and I "has a common goal" "fit each other perfectly"
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Isn't that called brainwhashing
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Learath2
Why not just say it? Tell them you feel your coworkers are bad and are dragging you down
i dont really want to be seen as arrogance. i already have ego problem i dont want to let them think i only has ego problem
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TsFreddie
i dont really want to be seen as arrogance. i already have ego problem i dont want to let them think i only has ego problem
Do you have to leave?
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Is it a you want to do something yourself or something different thing or is it a not enough money, too much work thing?
18:56
If it's the latter, they seem to really want you. You can leverage that to get pretty much anything within reason
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i have zero reason to leave
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TsFreddie
i dont really want to be seen as arrogance. i already have ego problem i dont want to let them think i only has ego problem
so is that the real problem? maybe u dont even want to leave
18:56
u just feel like it sometimes
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TsFreddie
i have zero reason to leave
That's wrong/a lie. You must have a reason, you just don't think other people will find your reason reasonable
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but i do want to do stuff on my own since it already seems i'm carrying a whole team
18:57
might as well carry my own
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it do feel like this
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Mh, I usually just suggest the honest route with these. But I also am far more comfortable/flexible than most in the employment aspect (edited)
18:59
So take what I say with a grain of salt
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i am gathering as much third-party opinions as possible tho. cuz the only feedback i get is from company and family. i believe both would really love me to have this job.
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TsFreddie
but i do want to do stuff on my own since it already seems i'm carrying a whole team
say exactly that and that it causes you stress
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i told my lead about how i feel about the team. it is harder to say that to the CEO for some reason
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maybe its just in my head
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maybe im a bit scared of me single handedly just made the entire team jobless
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Idk your relationship with your ceo
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Learath2
Idk your relationship with your ceo
idk either
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TsFreddie
maybe im a bit scared of me single handedly just made the entire team jobless
Now this is a thing I would also feel bad about. Idk what I would do with that
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would they really do that? Is your position within the team way more important?
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Is there no one capable enough to replace you atleast for a while? If you like them perhaps offer to work part time for a while longer as they look for someone else with the same qualifications?
19:03
That would give you time to work on your own things and maybe get something going while not leaving them out to dry
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Learath2
Is there no one capable enough to replace you atleast for a while? If you like them perhaps offer to work part time for a while longer as they look for someone else with the same qualifications?
nope
19:04
i warned them in march to start looking for one
19:04
they are still only looking for more interns for me to lead
19:04
there is one coming soon
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TsFreddie
i warned them in march to start looking for one
If they aren't atleast looking after you said this, I would see this as them not caring about you as much as you care about them
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maybe
19:05
but i did basically made the entire game myself
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But as someone with a chocolate eclair for a spine, I do get how you feel atleast a bit
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maybe they just didnt know and thought it was easy for anyone to hop in
19:06
although to be fair the CEO only knew about it last week
19:07
i warned HR first so she could as least have an eye for looking out. I told both of my lead two weeks after cuz i didnt want them to bother me while we are preparing to launch a game
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Here is what I would do. I would get a meeting with the ceo. Tell him that I really want to try doing something on my own and my mind is set on that. If I like them I would offer to stay on for a while longer on a part time basis if they promise to start looking for a real replacement
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Learath2
Here is what I would do. I would get a meeting with the ceo. Tell him that I really want to try doing something on my own and my mind is set on that. If I like them I would offer to stay on for a while longer on a part time basis if they promise to start looking for a real replacement
thats my initial offer
19:08
already
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That is if your mind is definitely set on trying on your own
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TsFreddie
thats my initial offer
But you said you only told the ceo a week ago. How firm were you when you told him that?
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her but anyway.
19:09
i asked for an email from the lead confirming my offer
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If they think you can be manipulated into staying, they will try that first. It's much more business savvy to keep highly qualified workers
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ceo heard about it and told my lead to not send any email about it
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TsFreddie
ceo heard about it and told my lead to not send any email about it
If I were the ceo and I believed you could be convinced into staying, this is exactly what I would do aswell
19:10
Is your lead not capable of replacing you either?
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Learath2
Is your lead not capable of replacing you either?
lmao no
19:11
dude believe chatgpt about everything
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Yeah I guess this is what happens to people like us. We end up in positions that don't reflect our capability 😛
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plus we are the first batch of creative roles they hired
19:11
so me and our designer/producer are the only two creatives
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they are a publishing company
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so we are the only ones
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we have an intern programmer that ive been leading for a year. but creative wise he's got a lot more to learn
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Anyway, that's all the advice I can offer you sadly. Be firm, convince them that you will actually leave, offer to help transition with less workload if you feel like it
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ye ive been trying to do that
19:13
maybe im just frustrated
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In other news, I've made a huge mistake at work saying I would be able to merge something on friday then I discovered a massive bug
19:16
Now I have to get it done over the weekend because I feel bad about it 😄
19:17
Though during the week I work in such a relaxed manner that I feel it's only fair I finish up over the weekend 🙃
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maybe I realized that I should leave a bit too late too. our producer didn't know how to take item screenshots, don't know how to edit audios. then my lead don't know how to implement server-side openid authentications even tho they are in the backend "for years". then our actual backend dev copied my code into chatgpt to translate it from javascript and java, pasted them into production environment then asked me why my code didn't work.
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TsFreddie
maybe I realized that I should leave a bit too late too. our producer didn't know how to take item screenshots, don't know how to edit audios. then my lead don't know how to implement server-side openid authentications even tho they are in the backend "for years". then our actual backend dev copied my code into chatgpt to translate it from javascript and java, pasted them into production environment then asked me why my code didn't work.
LOL
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i've been working with these people for a year and shipped a product. where did the product even come from
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Chatgpt people really concern me a lot. It baffles me how everyone is so optimistic about it when it creates people like this
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My CTO is actually pretty talented, but he relegated so much to github copilot that I can literally see how his code degraded over the days
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oh i do use copilot tho
19:22
poggers2
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TsFreddie
oh i do use copilot tho
Be very worried unless you are keeping up your practice and/or reviewing every single line it produces
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i do review every line
19:23
cuz it only completes line by line
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It is just observation on my part but I'm pretty convinced you'll definitely get worse over time if you don't double check
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i just start typing my own if it didn't follow my mental notes
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TsFreddie
i just start typing my own if it didn't follow my mental notes
This is the way to use it. But I even avoid that. I can't afford to get even a little worse with this disaster CV I have
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unless it is something obviously stackoverflowable tho. i just write tests to make sure that works since otherwise i would just copy a piece of algorithm anyway.
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Maybe when I have 3 years of experience written on there I'll start using it
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i only have two years of work experiences
19:25
justatest
19:26
but my CV starts with a 9 year unity experiences cuz i just feel like writing it that way.
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I don't even like using crates/libraries unless I can imagine exactly how it would be implemented. If I can't imagine myself writing it, I'll understand the entire library first (edited)
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like counting from the day I've started using it
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Learath2
I don't even like using crates/libraries unless I can imagine exactly how it would be implemented. If I can't imagine myself writing it, I'll understand the entire library first (edited)
might be a bit overkill for my tastes
19:27
but i do hate unity not being fixable myself
19:27
since it is close sourced
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TsFreddie
might be a bit overkill for my tastes
I'm not saying everyone has to be like that. But that's what I owe my vast library of useless low level knowledge
19:29
I'll also almost never refer to stackoverflow for something. First destination is always the language spec. Just browsing through those you gather so much knowledge
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i work very superficially but gamedev is kinda like that i guess (edited)
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i would love to be better at native works or system works, but it is just not my expertise rn
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If the spec doesn't have what I need, next is the standard library. I'll look through it's docs way before I look at stackoverflow. If I do end up there I will implement line by line what I see and backreference it to the spec or the stdlib it uses
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and rn i need my expertise to give me 💸
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TsFreddie
i would love to be better at native works or system works, but it is just not my expertise rn
Well not everyone cares about those. And as you noticed it doesn't always translate to pay
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The person who just imported the library and used it technically has done the same amount of work as me for the business
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pay isn't everything as well cuz clearly i stopped caring about pay at least under the current environment
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catxplosion
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but i am slowly pushing myself to work on my stupid card game even tho it is too smanl have a selling point
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i cant see it going anywhere but i really need a starting point where i have at least a comercial title in the wild
19:33
and maybe it'll get the engine going
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just maybe
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catxplosion my dream project is so out of reach without any financial support
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https://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=40832.0 have you seen this before @TsFreddie
Return of the Obra Dinn [Releasing Oct 18]
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the game or the page
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cuz obviusly i know the game
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One of my favourite devlogs ever to be written
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dude made papers please
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The way this guy organized and the way he thinks is just inspirational
19:36
The papers please devlog was great too
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dude is probably not worried about financial burden duing the return the obra dinn development tho. but maybe the devlog would prove me wrong
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Nothing financial in there iirc
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also this guys is just cool
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im obviously not that cool (edited)
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Well you can be, I think you do have the skillset
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also i cant imagine working on a title on my own for four or five years
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i mean it sometimes works out
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It's just not being worried about finances. Idk how he does it, maybe he is rich from some other source, but this sort of single person development really requires you to be financially stable
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animal well is the currently new hotness, and it took seven years
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If the game isn't financially successful you should be able to eat that up. Which is quite unfair, but that is how it is
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Learath2
It's just not being worried about finances. Idk how he does it, maybe he is rich from some other source, but this sort of single person development really requires you to be financially stable
ye, so i need to first work towards that
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another reason to not quit my job really
19:39
but it is also hard to keep myself growing my own skillset with that much responsibility
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maybe there are less creatively taxing works but im so bad at looking for job my mind is just rejecting the idea of working constantly (edited)
19:40
but ye. financial problem is exactly why im making brainless games first
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A job that has a more lax schedule would allow you to learn on the job. Though it might be impossible in china, idk the work culture there
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Learath2
A job that has a more lax schedule would allow you to learn on the job. Though it might be impossible in china, idk the work culture there
better than japanese but barely
19:42
from a business standpoint you cant spend more effort than you expect to make back. so im making thing that i give zero fucks about so if it worked out it is just net profit
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The way I write code, I'm slow, but it's only because I spend half the time learning
19:44
honestly gamedevs is better than tech
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Tbf my set of circumstances probably don't apply to anyone else, so it's not the greatest idea to think like me
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tech is usually 12hrs workday for 6 days a week
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at least gamedevs are usually 9hrs workdays if crunching isnt a thing
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ᵍᵒᵈˡʸ 2024-05-25 19:45:45Z
Guys when turk blocker
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Learath2
Tbf my set of circumstances probably don't apply to anyone else, so it's not the greatest idea to think like me
wanna playtest my card game tho?
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TsFreddie
wanna playtest my card game tho?
Sure, but not right now. I'm outside. I try to be outside friday and saturday nights so I feel less like a degenerate
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ill probably dm you the steam key once it was ready anyway, so you can decide that then and there.
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catxplosion and obviously it is not ready
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basically asking whether you want a free steam key or not
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I should figure out what to do after this internship sometime soon. I only have 1.5months left of it 🤔
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Maybe I should make a game too
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setup a start up, grab huge funds, and hire me so i can have money while working on my own stuff with that european work ethics
19:51
greenthing
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Or look for another golang job. It's been fairly enjoyable as a language
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but probably don't make games
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i do gamedev only because it is what ive been trying to do for 18 years
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i wouldnt choose this if i knew what it takes
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Or maybe do a masters, that sounds intriguing too. Perhaps something a little more enjoyable this time
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i have a master but that didnt do shits for me
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TsFreddie
i have a master but that didnt do shits for me
I don't expect it to do anything for me tbf. I just enjoy learning far more than implementing business logic
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TsFreddie
but probably don't make games
or you can take that as a challenge and just kills it
19:54
cuz some people do be killing it
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TsFreddie
or you can take that as a challenge and just kills it
I lack in the creative side of things sadly
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To be a solo gamedev you need to be atleast decent at every aspect
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Learath2
I lack in the creative side of things sadly
i have only one good idea that i think worth persuing after 18 years
19:57
its in my notes and i been trying to make that happen every now and then, but the scope is just too out of reach unless i really just decide to spend 8 years on that with nothing.
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even then the idea is not fully fleshed out cuz i have to start making it to feel out the detail.
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That's also a talent. Finding ideas small enough
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creatively i think im pretty basic
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Learath2
That's also a talent. Finding ideas small enough
that is like so hard
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Make a papers please clone
19:59
That one with the coffee shop was quite fun. I forgot the name
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everything i made apart from blindjump is basically a clone
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Though you need good writing skills for that
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papers please is not really a small game to be completely honest
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TsFreddie
papers please is not really a small game to be completely honest
It's a 1-2 year project max from what I can gather
20:01
Codingwise it should take you no longer than 4-5 months. Then art and writing for the rest of the time
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if you consider 1-2 year project to be small then i guess so
20:02
the face randomizer is just pure asset hell
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TsFreddie
the face randomizer is just pure asset hell
i personally think
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If you need to go smaller than that you'll need to really pick a very simple genre. Like match 4 hentai game
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Make a match 4 template. Make 10 match 4 games in 1 year
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but ye, once you have everything in place, asset cruching can be zen
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but im not that zen yet
20:03
plus i got ADHD
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justatest
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asset crunching is just hell for me
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Tower defense?
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Not very asset heavy, not too hard to code
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probably
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Idk if you need very short projects it really needs to be a tried and true formula
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i think my next project might be bringing my old games to commercial level
20:05
not really tried and true but also already existing
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or the first person kitty parkour thing (edited)
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photorealism is just free in unreal now
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TsFreddie
or the first person kitty parkour thing (edited)
This is lots of world design though
20:06
I guess you could keep it linear and it would be easier
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Learath2
This is lots of world design though
unreal engine kitbashing is a thing
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unless you mean world building like story and interactivity wise
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catxplosion
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then ye
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but probably doable
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TsFreddie
unreal engine kitbashing is a thing
I meant mostly the design of the world inwhich it takes place. For a parkour type game to be fun you need it to take in place in a pretty immersive world that is fairly detailed so there are things to climb
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ye then it is doable
20:10
iterating in unreal is really streamlined. even tho i have to learn unreal on the spot
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cuz im more of a unity / godot person
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but i feel like i kinda know when to start using unreal if i have to.
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let me finish this mfking card game first tho
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justatest
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hope you like chinese household game gone steam
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SzilvasiHendrik 2024-05-25 20:46:09Z
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