DDraceNetwork - off-topic

Damn its first time im really gambling gambling in a looong time

01:27

All in all made an equivalent of 30-40 euro

01:27

After losing like 80 xd

01:27

Went from last 20 to 120

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Never gamble kids

01:27

After 30. Min it was no longer fun and nostalgic

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( this is a meme i recieved 7h ago, and actually made me somewhat nostalgic)

01:32

Translation is: " dont follow the mob/ the prople"

01:32

" casino ". " higher education/ university"

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Ryozuki

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morning

Ryozuki

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true

Ewan

true

do you make ddnet mods

07:31

or teeworlds mods, basically the same thing you know

no

07:44

ok, i thought you did. nevermind then

i mean i make changes sometimes

07:47

but i dont maintain any mods

07:47

why

nothing

07:48

got semi-frustrated by some modding kids

07:48

07:49

was looking for some third-party input on whether I'm being an ass

TsFreddie

got semi-frustrated by some modding kids

i am a modding kid, what happened

TsFreddie

was looking for some third-party input on whether I'm being an ass

well yea what

idk. I'm kinda tired of seeing chinese modding dev critisizing tws/ddn without any intention into helping. I usually just ignores them, but I kinda told them to "get real and fork it if you think you can do better"

07:51

damn

07:52

i don't talk to any chinese modders but yeah

07:52

just dev channel ppl

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07:52

generally it's better to get shit done than to complain

TsFreddie

idk. I'm kinda tired of seeing chinese modding dev critisizing tws/ddn without any intention into helping. I usually just ignores them, but I kinda told them to "get real and fork it if you think you can do better"

what kind of chinese mods are there? apart from this one hide and seek one i know

i don't feel like saying who, but you are right there isn't many to begin with so....

07:53

ah fuck it, it is the bamcane kid lol

yeah

07:54

annoying

I mean, isn't it the whole point of a community is to raise issues, discuss, plan and execute? and people get busy and lose interest and that's pretty normal to me. I don't get why they would just demands stuff with no interests in helping even when they state they are totally capable to.

yeah

that sounds familiar justatest

- but i totally understand what you mean

and they don't seem to care about their english xd

not that i've helped with anything myself but you know

Ewan

and they don't seem to care about their english xd

hey i'm trying okay!

07:55

:D

Ewan

and they don't seem to care about their english xd

i just skip their messages cuz they are such a headache to try to dissect

meloƞ

:D

Ewan

and they don't seem to care about their english xd

do you think I care about my english? (edited)

07:56

well u did just edit that message

ah fair enough

XD

but i wouldn't hold that against chinese people you know

well being bad at english is one thing

07:56

but when u spew word soup it's just selfish

but ye, i guess at least trying to make your point across is the biggest part

07:56

even if you are not good with english

ur expecting everyone else to exert more brainpower to try and understand what you're saying

i rather read a text in very bad english than a llm generated text that sounds unnatural to the point i feel like puking.

ok so the conversation ended with

07:59

i'm just curious, am I supposed to be involved with anything?

08:00

i mean i feel like i've helped from time to time

that sounds like a discussion you would have at work where you'd get paid for that

08:01

but not for a FOSS project (edited)

meloƞ

that sounds like a discussion you would have at work where you'd get paid for that

oof

08:01

I should say that during our company meeting then

XD

eitherway, these modding kids keeps giving me the vibe of wanting an audience to themselves without doing any actual works. cuz it is always about how they couldn't make something because ddnet is lacking.

08:07

I keep telling them either 1. you discuss and contribute to a solution that solves your problem. 2. failing that, make your own thing and get your own audiences.

08:07

I think they just thinks that I am the one holding all chinese ddnet players hostage.

08:08

ah, i should move on probably. I am a 28 year old adult i should know how to manage emotions by now lmao.

:D

08:09

i think they expect you to do something because you're on of the smarter types of people

I'll take that as a compliment

08:10

and i'm definitely not smart

day 60 of wanting to quit my job

08:29

(edited)

08:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk5MD6W7SwM

Render

why we're still here, just to suffer? (Original)

and why are u not doing it then?

Jupstar ✪

and why are u not doing it then?

I DON'T KNOW

08:30

i seriously do not know

08:31

money probably

maybe simply take your job less serious if u dont want it anyway? xd

Jupstar ✪

maybe simply take your job less serious if u dont want it anyway? xd

how

TsFreddie

how

i dunno, like not working 16h a day could be a start

i am not anymore

08:34

but that also means we are not able to push as much as possible anymore.

08:34

management want new gameplay update every two weeks

08:35

we could've deliver on that if we were working the way we did

08:35

now it is basically

08:35

impossible lmao

Jupstar ✪

i dunno, like not working 16h a day could be a start

i'm only working 12h days now

then reduce to 8h

impossible, work ends at 9

then go earlier

08:39

it is a fixed 9hour minimum

08:39

i think china all works 9 hours

08:39

minimum

ok, then at least start with only 9h

do you know hongkong has 6 work days a week?

08:41

i'm craving cakes now

08:41

really want some cakes

TsFreddie

do you know hongkong has 6 work days a week?

sounds horrible xd

08:42

working more doesnt mean being more productive anyway

you know what. imma stop working on my stupid card game and go take a shower, then get downstair for a haircut and some cakes

nice, enjoy ur cakes

08:43

do u have vegan cakes in china

really thought I would finish the game loop at least today

Jupstar ✪

do u have vegan cakes in china

probably not

does smth like vegan already exist in china?

vegan do not exists in china

rip

it is literally impossible to be vegan in china i believe

be hipster, be the first vegan in china

TsFreddie

really thought I would finish the game loop at least today

looks like one of these microsoft card games that come preinstalled with windows

08:44

that u cant uninstall and have tons of ads

08:44

xdd

Jupstar ✪

looks like one of these microsoft card games that come preinstalled with windows

exactly the vibe i'm going for (not really)

08:45

i think i'm starting to regret the choice of being specialized in video game networking and multiplayers

08:45

08:46

i really do not like testing things with multiple game instances. my adhd do not allow me to keep track of which window is which

08:46

alright i'm going

08:46

later vegan

later

кто пойдет в дарк соулс мод в терке

i'm done showering

09:02

09:02

it's probably not good if I think showering is a great achievement, but I do think it is.

TsFreddie

eitherway, these modding kids keeps giving me the vibe of wanting an audience to themselves without doing any actual works. cuz it is always about how they couldn't make something because ddnet is lacking.

it was always like that ig

09:07

i was the modding kiddie myself in past xdd

now i'm thinking if I'm like that too when I was making solofng ddnet-pvp or momentcap

nah

09:08

btw ddnet pvp is really good, thank you for releasing it

09:08

no one said that ever

09:08

but thank you

still crashes sometimes but its playable enough xd

I didn't really finish it

09:08

and probably never could to be fair

TsFreddie

no one said that ever

hey theres a server hosted in russia by matodor where all the vani ppl in 0.6 go to play

09:09

like huh

09:09

this rooms concept is really good

09:10

ninekeem wanted to scale it to some infra based on containers with different mods running

09:10

so you can freely move between them and so on

if I got more free time and unlimited amount of money to live with to do it again. I would probably go for a bridge approach

09:11

so I can make different maps or mods into one big entry point

09:11

and without heavily modifying ddnet/teeworlds engine to do so

09:12

but i don't have free time at all right now, and if I do I basically don't have money anymore so...

09:12

im curious... what happened to your moni

09:12

oh i mean if i have free time that probably means i don't have a job anymore

ah

i have money but it's not like infinite lol (edited)

but if u give me the half of it, is it still enough?

Jupstar ✪

but if u give me the half of it, is it still enough?

enough to what?

enough to say u have money

Send all of it to me, I'll double it and give it to the next person

we can try out

yo jupjapjopsti

hello zohan

Learath2

Send all of it to me, I'll double it and give it to the next person

Hi dad, my name is next person

09:14

hey big lerato

TsFreddie

Hi dad, my name is next person

Perfect, send it to me, I'll definitely double it and send it back

09:15

Pinky promise

sounds trustworthy

09:15

i'd try it out

Learath2

Perfect, send it to me, I'll definitely double it and send it back

to be honestly. my entire bank account is probably nothing to you in europe

zhn

hey big lerato

Helo

unironically one fellow guy did double his millions by just putting everything in cryptoscam shit and taking back next day

09:16

is it being lucky or being crypto so random

09:16

both xd

I doubled my bitcoins on the day of the bitcoin cash fork

imagine having money

09:17

I have this much

09:17

do you want it @Learath2

19k isnt even few in europe

09:17

what u talkn bout

Ye that's not bad at all

09:17

I have 100$ in savings

after two years of working?

well depends on how much % u saved

09:18

of ur salery

idk

09:18

this is my monthly

if it was 90% saving rate, then it's not much xdd

TsFreddie

this is my monthly

with taxes paid?

TsFreddie

after two years of working?

Well that's around 800€ you saved every month somehow. It's not bad at all if that was your salary all along (edited)

after taxes and benefits

mh sounds okish, in europe it would not be muhc mostly bcs living itself is expensive

09:19

e.g. -1k€ for living and food is probably realistic

Learath2

Well that's around 800€ you saved every month somehow. It's not bad at all if that was your salary all along (edited)

not really, government gave me 30000 cny (edited)

in europe

Jupstar ✪

mh sounds okish, in europe it would not be muhc mostly bcs living itself is expensive

I can live with that here in Italy. But not the most exciting of lives

so you are telling me i should stop complaining and don't ask for more money

TsFreddie

so you are telling me i should stop complaining and don't ask for more money

Definitely ask for more

TsFreddie

so you are telling me i should stop complaining and don't ask for more money

?? u work fucking 16h a day

09:20

i'd get that money with 5h a day

09:20

lmao

ye, but everyone is basically telling me that

09:21

including my mom

09:21

lol

Jupstar ✪

i'd get that money with 5h a day

i heard ppl in germany really don't work that much and gain a lot justatest

u should ask for double of that money xd

is it real

that's why i just want to quit. getting anything more is just greedy at this point

TsFreddie

ye, but everyone is basically telling me that

It's a location diff. Jupsti is thinking western eu cost of living and wages

zhn

i heard ppl in germany really don't work that much and gain a lot justatest

but it's all about productivity anyway.. germany is pretty rich currently (like very machinized etc.) so human labour is simply not needed as much

Learath2

It's a location diff. Jupsti is thinking western eu cost of living and wages

i mean china probably costs less to live

but tbh germany pays rather shitty compared to like switzerland

woah switz

or murica

What is the minimum wage in china?

Learath2

What is the minimum wage in china?

what is that

Learath2

What is the minimum wage in china?

an apple and an egg

09:22

xDD

Jupstar ✪

but tbh germany pays rather shitty compared to like switzerland

Their cost of living is much Higher tho

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yo melony

zhn

yo melony

Hi gärdouh

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meloƞ

Their cost of living is much Higher tho

in the end they still have more money tho

Jupstar ✪

in the end they still have more money tho

True xD (edited)

Jupstar ✪

but tbh germany pays rather shitty compared to like switzerland

A meal at mcdonalds costs like 30€ in switzerland

Jupstar ✪

in the end they still have more money tho

taxback

Learath2

What is the minimum wage in china?

2300cny

09:23

just looked it up

09:23

in guangzhou

TsFreddie

2300cny

minimum?

Learath2

A meal at mcdonalds costs like 30€ in switzerland

the trick is to live in germany but work in switzerland

on paper yes. minimum wages in guangzhou is 2300cny (edited)

I usually like to think of wages as multiples of the minimum wage

Jupstar ✪

the trick is to live in germany but work in switzerland

A friend of Mine did that, he lives on the Border in Germany and Drives 45 Minutes to Work each day

TsFreddie

on paper yes. minimum wages in guangzhou is 2300cny (edited)

we have an act that defines minimum wages

But He makes 40% more

its like ~14k rubles

i honestly don't know how you would live in guangzhou with 2300

meloƞ

A friend of Mine did that, he lives on the Border in Germany and Drives 45 Minutes to Work each day

clever

(Assuming your country has a liveable minimum wage)

Learath2

(Assuming your country has a liveable minimum wage)

i mean it might be livable

im out then

i just don't know how you would live

Jupstar ✪

or murica

In murica you trip and fall and they take all your savings for an xray

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to me minimum wage is also always about h/day if u get 12€/h and work 40h per week, that would suck hard

09:25

the time loss is never ever worth so few money

the lowest rate i think i've seen for an apartment is 800cny / month

Jupstar ✪

to me minimum wage is also always about h/day if u get 12€/h and work 40h per week, that would suck hard

they have that 22.2 cny

TsFreddie

they have that 22.2 cny

i'd not take ur job if it's not 8h per day only

09:26

otherwise i'd say your salery is okish

09:26

maybe even good in china

there is no 8h jobs in china

TsFreddie

there is no 8h jobs in china

REVOLUTION

my salary is definitely on the high end

TsFreddie

there is no 8h jobs in china

Damn

cuz everyone hates me for sharing how much I earn

09:27

Mao did not kill millions of people for this

and then there are people in germany demanding 35h per week with only 4 days

09:27

i think im privileged beeing paid a LOT for only 38.5hours

TsFreddie

cuz everyone hates me for sharing how much I earn

it's actually the smartest thing to do

TsFreddie

there is no 8h jobs in china

only the employer profits from the employees not sharing it

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TsFreddie

cuz everyone hates me for sharing how much I earn

the only one that complains about people talking about their monthly pay are employers that dont want other people to know

Jupstar ✪

it's actually the smartest thing to do

100% this. There is a reason all the neolib business people want to tell you you cant share your wages

@T.Charlie has been trying to get me to find jobs in oversea companies in china

09:28

i don't think i buy that

I need to figure out what to have for breakfast

TsFreddie

@T.Charlie has been trying to get me to find jobs in oversea companies in china

It would probably have better working conditions

Atleast that's how it is for non-manufacturing jobs usually

there just isn't any oversea video game studios in china

09:30

he's definitely in IT

Ah yes, it might imply a switch in sectors

that's fine, but i'm not really an IT guy

09:30

I would probably be killing it given I am still a CS guy. (edited)

09:31

but i just don't think i'd like that

Are there perhaps software jobs related to hardware?

09:31

Lots of hardware manufacturing in china, there should be some related software jobs

also Ryo keep make me thinks i'm worthless so that's another issue for me to be in an IT sector

Learath2

Are there perhaps software jobs related to hardware?

i don't really want to work on software that's the thing...

All the IT people I know make a decent living and just sit at the office and play games most of the time

i've technically been making video games since 4th grade, i don't really like the idea of switching 20 years later (edited)

Yeah, understandable

09:33

I saw activision had some workforce in china, maybe you can apply there?

i still remember that my dad beats me up when i made a game in rpg maker that uses real names and make some classmate's parent upset

You can make call of duty 10

TsFreddie

i still remember that my dad beats me up when i made a game in rpg maker that uses real names and make some classmate's parent upset

Ayo?

he made me delete the project in front of him

TsFreddie

i still remember that my dad beats me up when i made a game in rpg maker that uses real names and make some classmate's parent upset

he used violence against a kid?

09:35

in europe u can go to jail for that

ye, it's the 2000 what do you do about it

09:35

it was like my first time making anything with significant length too

in europe u could sue him even years after

well i'm not in europe

09:35

and i love my dad so no thank you

move to europe and sue him

09:36

but he apparently doesn't love u

09:36

nobody would fucking beat his child

Jupstar ✪

in europe u can go to jail for that

In murica your right to beat your kid as punishment is protected by the constitution

oh wow. who spent like their entire wages for 7 years and a house just so I can be in college in the US (edited)

09:36

not you vegan

doesn't matter

09:37

beating kids = mental health issue. that simple

Jupstar ✪

nobody would fucking beat his child

i'm not mentally ill enough to just want to erase my parent

09:38

in that case, he probably didn't beat me hard enough

Jupstar ✪

nobody would fucking beat his child

You are too new age and too western to understand. I do agree with the sentiment but I also know that's not how it works anywhere east of Austria

now that you are an adult u could at least make clear that it's not ok

Learath2

You are too new age and too western to understand. I do agree with the sentiment but I also know that's not how it works anywhere east of Austria

i know that other cultures are like that

09:38

but that doesnt justify it

he can just talk with his father at that point

it's a fucking kid

i'm not having kids so I don't really care if it is okay really

it's weak, has no life experience nothing

also i don't think 4th grade me would consider myself a kid anyway

TsFreddie

i'm not having kids so I don't really care if it is okay really

if u have one, please don't let this intrusive thought ever win

also i can think for myself instead letting a piece of paper in europe tells me what to think thank you very much

Jupstar ✪

if u have one, please don't let this intrusive thought ever win

how?

there are other punishments for kids that are not physical punishments and have higher learning effect

I literally can not have kids

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TsFreddie

I literally can not have kids

i know lot of gay ppl that have kids

09:40

either by finding a woman that does it for them

09:41

well let's remove the "lot"

09:41

i know it exists

do you want me to hit you with the "but I respect women" card

You can adopt BigBrain

adopt works too yeah

Learath2

You can adopt BigBrain

probably not i think

Jupstar ✪

either by finding a woman that does it for them

which is illegal in at least some european countries btw

Devinci

which is illegal in at least some european countries btw

depends if she did it for money

speaking of having a family and being gay

09:42

i went for a lunch with my best friend working in banking

TsFreddie

i went for a lunch with my best friend working in banking

and he gay?

09:43

@TsFreddie do you think ppl realize you are gay while talking to you?

he said they had a issue where the ceo was banging a chief in the office lmao.

Devinci

which is illegal in at least some european countries btw

In a lot of them surrogacy is illegal indeed

09:44

I only know of the UK and NL that allows it

two 45+ men with family and kids banging each other is the funniest thing to happen imo

Prohibition of Surrogacy in Germany
The second section of this law (Sections 13a – 13d AdVermiG) regulates surrogate motherhood and the seeking of surrogate mothers in Germany. It states that public searches for surrogate mothers and surrogate mother placements are prohibited.

09:44

so yeah public searches are illegal

09:44

that's how i also had it in mind

Jupstar ✪

@TsFreddie do you think ppl realize you are gay while talking to you?

probably not

TsFreddie

probably not

mh i see

why

i've to say for many gay ppl it's kinda obvious xd

09:45

the way they speak etc.

i don't think the way i talk is gay

09:46

also isn't that stereotyping

sure

Huh, I've had the complete opposite experience irl. None of the gay people I know fit the movie gay stereotype

but that that doesn't mean it's the case for everyone

to be fair some of them definitely do

09:46

but i aint one of them

i mean i only know like 5 gay ppl irl

i sometime want to be like them tho

but i'd say at least for 4 it's kinda obvious xd

but i'm just a regular old dude

so there could be more i'm not aware of ofc

with bad hygiene and messy desk

09:47

also

TsFreddie

with bad hygiene and messy desk

urg

09:47

clean it

how the fuck do you guys know that many gay people

09:47

i'm here struggling to find one or two

09:47

IRL

TsFreddie

how the fuck do you guys know that many gay people

in europe they are simply more open about it

09:48

not like u go on street and ask them xdd

the huge anime cultures ruined gays

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09:48

everyone just want em anime tidies

09:49

disclaimer: not a real statement

TsFreddie

how the fuck do you guys know that many gay people

"That many" would be like 5 total. So not thaat many

Learath2

"That many" would be like 5 total. So not thaat many

ok so you have many friends

09:49

oh wow

TsFreddie

two 45+ men with family and kids banging each other is the funniest thing to happen imo

TsFreddie

how the fuck do you guys know that many gay people

also is it really much? i have a lesbian neighbour pair 2 from school one from somewhere else 5 people of like 1-2k people i knew in my life

Jupstar ✪

also is it really much? i have a lesbian neighbour pair 2 from school one from somewhere else 5 people of like 1-2k people i knew in my life

how do you know 1-2k people

TsFreddie

how the fuck do you guys know that many gay people

easy to find, easy to talk, hard to get laid :p

TsFreddie

ok so you have many friends

Acquaintances. I only use "friend" for close friends

TsFreddie

how do you know 1-2k people

i already know like 200 just through school

ok sure

univeristy 100 maybe

but I believe i've only know less than 200 people total

yeah same

then football etc.

09:51

i mean theoretically i knew most ppl in my school

09:51

just not very deeply

i've met less than 30 people in uni

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soo that would be like 1.5k already

I've met 6 people in uni

in UK i met 3 people and that's it

Learath2

I've met 6 people in uni

Sorry, 8

i have maybe 3 or 5 highschool classmates i consider of "knowing" even then i don't remember any of them

wtf

09:52

have u never talked to ppl from other classes?

i don't have memories before middle school. and my middle school class is like 45 people

i dont mean friends btw

09:52

just knowing

Jupstar ✪

have u never talked to ppl from other classes?

i didn't go to highschool classes

09:52

like at all

know their name (edited)

09:52

and maybe talked to them at least once

i basically didn't went to highschool

ok

also it is weird i don't think i remember anything other than a few events before middle school

09:53

is that normal?

09:53

Ofc

TsFreddie

also it is weird i don't think i remember anything other than a few events before middle school

i remember so much stuff

oh well maybe it is possible to remember if i try hard enough. I now remember my 4th birthday and there was a double exposed photo for it somewhere.

dunno

09:55

my brain remembers lot of useless shit

I remember making games in rpg maker and my dad get mad about it as previously mentioned

well that was simply bcs of the negative reward xD

09:56

u'll never forget that

I remember learning piano and give up by not showing up then the teacher just disappeared.

I only remember significantly unusual stuff from then. Not mundane stuff

why did u even already code games in ur first school time

09:57

wtf

09:57

aren't we like same age

Jupstar ✪

why did u even already code games in ur first school time

wdym

when i was in firt school there was windows 2000

09:57

how could u already know about rpg maker

i don't think 4th grade is first school time?

I used to write cheats for single player flash games in grade 3 iirc

for me it would be

Jupstar ✪

how could u already know about rpg maker

googling "how to make game" xdd

Teero

googling "how to make game" xdd

googling lmao

also i wasn't really coding?

09:58

i learned pascal starting in 5th grade

09:59

before that I just drag things in, using the editor

i think before my secondary school i never touched a computer for anything than some stupid games

and maybe modifying some plugin scripts to move the window arround

TsFreddie

i learned pascal starting in 5th grade

wtf is 5th grade for you

09:59

which age are u then

Jupstar ✪

i think before my secondary school i never touched a computer for anything than some stupid games

You could have been a cool normal person

Jupstar ✪

wtf is 5th grade for you

idk 10?

09:59

11?

wtf

10:00

i learned coding only with like 15 xd

10:00

gotta hurry to catch up i guess

i mean

10:00

no one really starts coding at 11

10:00

also i'd say don't do it

10:00

cuz I have like 0 conversational skill

10:00

i think coding gave me autism

i guess when i was a child i was happy with whatever i did. now i'd have wished i learned about vulkan and shit much earlier to be better :/

TsFreddie

no one really starts coding at 11

Well I did aswell but honestly I was mostly copy and pasting back then

and learning to code is just doing simple stuff in pascal

Learath2

Well I did aswell but honestly I was mostly copy and pasting back then

when i started coding i didnt even know that such shortcuts exist

10:01

I started with pascal, then VB.Net

ok i dunno tbh

10:02

probably i knew

Oh and I used to watch tutorials recorded with unregistered hypercam

i learned vb.net only because i have no idea how GUI works

10:02

and it's the first thing i find that could do GUI

Learath2

Oh and I used to watch tutorials recorded with unregistered hypercam

how?

With this music in the background https://youtu.be/TKfS5zVfGBc

TradeSend

Trance - 009 Sound System Dreamscape (HD)

i don't think tutorial was a thing in china back then

TsFreddie

I started with pascal, then VB.Net

for me it was:

qbasic school
pascal school
java school
c# self learned (only bit)
cpp self learned (serious)
x86 asm self learned (reverse engineering)
rust self learned (dd-pg)

or i'm just dumb for not looking it up

Learath2

With this music in the background https://youtu.be/TKfS5zVfGBc

the good ol' times (edited)

I learned a grand total of 0 computer at school

i'm pascal, vb.net, c++ school and teeworlds immediately after

I learned how to use excel at school

yes, back then teeworlds is a language for me

10:04

third year of middle school is the start of my teeworlds phase

10:04

and i feel like i've learned nothing else since

10:05

definitely not true, but I just don't know what is learning now

10:05

all the things i do now, is just. I want this, I google this, I make this.

10:05

As long as you put an effort in understanding what you are doing, you learn

i don't think i've done that really

If you just google it, and copy it, there is no learning involved

10:07

i wouldn't say i'm copying things

10:07

but i definitely don't think I've learned anything

You probably did absorb some of it

is all a big blur for me. I really do not think there is any difference between any of the language I know (edited)

10:08

probably that's why i fear rust

10:08

cuz it is different

10:09

I think i just do things with no real goals in mind

Understandable

like I made biggernouis in a new language and a new engine in two days then i don't think i learned anything

10:11

maybe working taught me a lot about how to deal with people but that's not really coding

if all ppl in this chat would team up we'd be a huge working force

10:12

could easily be successful

who's paying us

just saiyan

TsFreddie

who's paying us

u got enough savings to survive a year or so

10:12

xd

10:12

no risk no fun

also i fear that we could develop a toxic working environment really quickly without an experienced manager or something (edited)

10:14

~~i mean, you are vegan, i'm gay and learath2 is just a hater~~

then let's convert that hate energy into work force

10:15

good fuel

Jupstar ✪

then let's convert that hate energy into work force

that's how I got into 16h days

see there we have our experienced player

10:15

u are the manager now

10:15

gz

10:15

i honestly do not wish to manage

10:16

i have two interns under me and i'm already stressed

Jupstar ✪

for me it was:

qbasic school
pascal school
java school
c# self learned (only bit)
cpp self learned (serious)
x86 asm self learned (reverse engineering)
rust self learned (dd-pg)

for me it was: python: self learned c/c++: self learned (ddnet) java: self learned (minecraft) c#: self learned (terraria/tshock) a bit of lua: self learned (gmod) rust: self learned your mom: kek

oh

10:17

also typescript javascript

10:17

self learned

are we listing languages we've used

html css yada

10:18

oh

Ryozuki

for me it was: python: self learned c/c++: self learned (ddnet) java: self learned (minecraft) c#: self learned (terraria/tshock) a bit of lua: self learned (gmod) rust: self learned your mom: kek

all self learned is epyc

i think I used too many languages it becomes meaningless

assembly x86

10:18

and now a bit of aarch64 (work)

10:18

and LLVM IR

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and MLIR

TsFreddie

i think I used too many languages it becomes meaningless

same xd

10:18

bash

10:19

jq

10:19

is a language

also don't you guys have haskell course in uni or something

i didnt do uni

10:19

oh

10:19

elixir

10:19

erlan

10:19

erlang

Ryozuki

i didnt do uni

oh right

10:19

you are just built different

Ryozuki

bash

i know powershell lmao

lmao

10:19

thats unholy

it is really meaningless for knowing more

TsFreddie

i know powershell lmao

no fcking way

cuz you always have those thing you shouldn't have known

oh

10:20

SQL

powershell gives gpt-4 a reason to exist

2

10:20

ngl

i forgot why I was writing powershell scripts tho

Ryozuki

for me it was: python: self learned c/c++: self learned (ddnet) java: self learned (minecraft) c#: self learned (terraria/tshock) a bit of lua: self learned (gmod) rust: self learned your mom: kek

what counts as a bit

im not proficient at all in lua

10:23

i hate it

like if I wrote a interpreter in that one functional language once, do I know a bit

10:23

of that language

10:24

cuz we were using racket to build a javascript interpreter once as a course project

10:24

i even had to look up "functional programming languages" to even find what that language was

Ryozuki

im not proficient at all in lua

is it the 1-based array

xd

10:26

its also everything is a table

isn't it just like javascript where everything is a object

10:27

bro, i have no recollection of any of this https://racket-lang.org/

10:28

how did I pass that course

10:28

what the fuck is this

10:31

@Jupstar ✪ i did not find cake

10:31

i'm sad now

cakes are not healthy anyway. an apple a day keeps the doctor away

10:31

lmao

TsFreddie

@Jupstar ✪ i did not find cake

Too bad

now i need to think what to have as dinner

do u eat warm for dinner?

wdym

10:33

what's a cold dinner

else try: frozen fruits in soja yogurth

10:33

im fat you know

ok

my stomach is probably the size of a basketball

10:34

joking aside chinese really dont like anything cold

10:34

me drinking cold water is already a sin to many

wtf

but i do drink cold beverages and soda

10:35

i dont like cold food tho

non heated stuff often has more vitamines, at the cost of having more lectines

even when im ordering salad i try to find toasted ones

10:37

i think chinese have a cold = bad for stomach thing

10:37

maybe because we have high HP infection rate and everyone just have bad stomaches or something?

possible i dunno

i just found out i have hp last year

10:38

but my parent told me to not worry about it

10:39

10:45

@Learath2 japanese beef bowl or chinese fried pork in scoop

TsFreddie

@Learath2 japanese beef bowl or chinese fried pork in scoop

Hm, I haven't had great chinese fried pork yet, so beef bowl

thanks

Ryozuki

for me it was: python: self learned c/c++: self learned (ddnet) java: self learned (minecraft) c#: self learned (terraria/tshock) a bit of lua: self learned (gmod) rust: self learned your mom: kek

python: self learned c/c++: self learned (ddnet) java: never touched c# never touched lua: ddnet scripting (please dont hurt me) rust: self learned your mom: didnt bother kek

Eh...

@meloƞ why do i care about him

11:17

i should be having dinner by now

XD

honestly i really want kids to succeed. but people just don't know how to work thesedays. our intern at work is also really bad at raising issues

11:20

ok ye. they really are not that good with english i guess

neee d job

what's a d job

11:23

sounds sexual

xd

11:50

TsFreddie

ok ye. they really are not that good with english i guess

I'll guesstimate my Englandian at B1+: enough for me to understand, but not enough for everyone to not notice that I'm not a native (edited)

12:07

Unrelated, but I remembered how I teached some American to pronounce the word "дев'ятнадцять" (19) XD (edited)

@Learath2 you are in italy right?

12:10

can you speak italian?

I speak enough to survive

Learath2

I speak enough to survive

very cool

Learath2

I speak enough to survive

can you confirm or deny that italian are not that good with english?

12:11

or neither

I wanted to learn more, but then saw no point to it. I don't have local friends anyway

TsFreddie

can you confirm or deny that italian are not that good with english?

Italians are not that good with english indeed. But it has gotten atleast a little better since I first came here

cuz I was under the impression when a game doesn't come with globalization chinese and italian are the loudest in language related review spamming

EGYT

I'll guesstimate my Englandian at B1+: enough for me to understand, but not enough for everyone to not notice that I'm not a native (edited)

Thanks to Internet, of course. If I only learned English from school, well... I would have been somewhere between 0 and A2

TsFreddie

cuz I was under the impression when a game doesn't come with globalization chinese and italian are the loudest in language related review spamming

That's why I like Free Software: no translation? Make one yourself!

EGYT

Thanks to Internet, of course. If I only learned English from school, well... I would have been somewhere between 0 and A2

i honestly do not know what A2 is

EGYT

I'll guesstimate my Englandian at B1+: enough for me to understand, but not enough for everyone to not notice that I'm not a native (edited)

A1 andy here

is it like a level of proficiency in russian or something

TsFreddie

i honestly do not know what A2 is

Um, no. It's a level below B1.

i mean

12:16

i don't know A2 nor B1

TsFreddie

is it like a level of proficiency in russian or something

it's level of proficiency any language

12:17

a2 is smth like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjhS6bwuxVc

Gabriel Landon

Monkey longest sentence

Search for CEFR levels

why i haven't heard of that

12:17

is it a european thing

~~Chinese firewall~~

ye, but I went to college in the US and got my master in the UK

1

12:18

maybe i'm just dumb

xd

never heard of that scale

Now you know more

I learned my english basically in college

12:19

I was failing my english classes before college lmao

I also had a thought of learning Esperanto and/or Toki Pona, because "why not?", then I remembered how learning entirely on your own sucks And that was the case with almost every other idea about learning something (edited)

12:27

The only exception was Interslavic, but that's only because learning the language that you understand even without learning is much easier than learning something you never had to deal with