DDraceNetwork

hello, i don't know if it's the good place to report this so tell me if not. I had some crash problem yesterday, after updating the AMD drivers of my graphic cards i could not launch the game anymore. After removing all gfx_ command from the setting_ddnet.cfg the game would start again without problems but it would now crash every time i change tabs on my pc. it seem like the problem came from Vulkan because after changing to Opengl 3.3.0 i have no more problems. Was just saying that in case someone else encounter this problem, have a nice day all

(btw, I'm on win_64 and had the same bug on many ddnet version)

Can you Go into your config directoy and Check the dumps folder for the Log that relates to the Problem and send it please ? (edited)

09:04

$configdir

DDNet config directory & settings_ddnet.cfg location:

On Windows: Old: %appdata%\Teeworlds New: %appdata%\DDNet On Linux: Old: ~/.teeworlds New: ~/.local/share/ddnet On macOS: Old: ~/Library/Application Support/Teeworlds New: ~/Library/Application Support/DDNet The settings_ddnet.cfg file contains all your friends, control, player & game settings.

quick question but whats the reason for ghost replays glitching out?

09:55

sometimes they just float around maybe something got changed that made ghosts bug out?

meloƞ

Can you Go into your config directoy and Check the dumps folder for the Log that relates to the Problem and send it please ? (edited)

here is the log and cfg file for the case when i can't open the game at all just after my update

DDNet_win64_crash_log_2024-05-16_14-24-03_10392_d858aa41ae7e6307cb96b449503666252b675c00.RTP

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and there the log for the case when i change tab (solved by passing from Vulkan to Opengl) else the game work fine

DDNet_win64_crash_log_2024-05-16_14-29-13_8840_d858aa41ae7e6307cb96b449503666252b675c00.RTP

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Flavien

here is the log and cfg file for the case when i can't open the game at all just after my update

okay you said these crashes happened AFTER you updated your amd drivers? - that's odd, it indeed crashes on amdvlk64.dll - do you have AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition? try turning off hardware acceleration or change the game-mode to Eco and play around with the different window modes (fullscreen, windowed-fullscreen) and see if it crashes again. (edited)

Flavien

and there the log for the case when i change tab (solved by passing from Vulkan to Opengl) else the game work fine

Try to uninstall Overwolf and/or OBS, both are somehow involved in this crash

14:05

Or try to disable the Overwolf/OBS Vulkan layers by removing the respective entries in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Khronos\Vulkan\ImplicitLayers in the registry (create a backup of the key first) (edited)

Robyt3

Or try to disable the Overwolf/OBS Vulkan layers by removing the respective entries in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Khronos\Vulkan\ImplicitLayers in the registry (create a backup of the key first) (edited)

how da hell do you know these things, you're scary sometimes - respect :D

I had to google the registry key again, but we had issues with Vulkan layers before https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/1192236545168642118 https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1193902398872244254

Robyt3

I had to google the registry key again, but we had issues with Vulkan layers before https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/1192236545168642118 https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1193902398872244254

i see - interesting ^^

meloƞ

okay you said these crashes happened AFTER you updated your amd drivers? - that's odd, it indeed crashes on amdvlk64.dll - do you have AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition? try turning off hardware acceleration or change the game-mode to Eco and play around with the different window modes (fullscreen, windowed-fullscreen) and see if it crashes again. (edited)

yeah my game was all good before the update of my driver, i indeed have AMD Software : Adrenalin Edition. Tried different window modes didn't change anything. Played with different game mode as well, same result. And i didn't find any hardware acceleration on adrenalin edition but on windows 11 it was already deactivate if I'm not mistaken.

Robyt3

Try to uninstall Overwolf and/or OBS, both are somehow involved in this crash

I did the scary thing you told me to do with my registry, without success, i then desinstall overwolf just to be sure, nothing changed

Flavien

yeah my game was all good before the update of my driver, i indeed have AMD Software : Adrenalin Edition. Tried different window modes didn't change anything. Played with different game mode as well, same result. And i didn't find any hardware acceleration on adrenalin edition but on windows 11 it was already deactivate if I'm not mistaken.

in here you can change the "Gaming Experience" thingies, i usually have it run on HYPR-RX, but having it set to ECO fixed a segfault with vlk drivers before

don't have the exact same design but should be this right ?

meloƞ

in here you can change the "Gaming Experience" thingies, i usually have it run on HYPR-RX, but having it set to ECO fixed a segfault with vlk drivers before

if yes i tried it as well

Flavien

don't have the exact same design but should be this right ?

yeah - hm

do you think it can be a problem with my driver install ? cause it fucked up another application i have

15:32

but all the rest is fine...

Flavien

do you think it can be a problem with my driver install ? cause it fucked up another application i have

i mean you can try a clean-install for sure - you said you removed overwolf and obs? - can you send me the latest dump again?

sure, i will send the same 3 files since I'm still able to crash at the start or by changing tabs

the latest entry is enough ^^

oh okay xD

15:35

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Looks like the crash isn't directly related to Overwolf and OBS now, so maybe a bugged graphics driver. Try reinstalling/updating it. If you recently upgraded, try downgrading instead. (edited)

but i needed an upgrade to launch minecraft

(so annoying but i will try that)

15:55

will soon need one laptop per game

Flavien

but i needed an upgrade to launch minecraft

(so annoying but i will try that)

really? i didnt know that's a thing considering minecraft runs on almost anything :D

meloƞ

really? i didnt know that's a thing considering minecraft runs on almost anything :D

i couldn't launch a private modpack, exit with code error. And the driver update fixed it

okay i give up, i tried to downgrade, to do a clean install, but still the same problem with vulkan. Now i can't even choose anymore which graphic card i want to use in the ddnet's settings. But it choose the good one so i guess i will just let it like this since it works

16:37

thanks to you two @meloƞ @Robyt3 ❤️

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Flavien

okay i give up, i tried to downgrade, to do a clean install, but still the same problem with vulkan. Now i can't even choose anymore which graphic card i want to use in the ddnet's settings. But it choose the good one so i guess i will just let it like this since it works

which GPU do you own?

Flavien

don't have the exact same design but should be this right ?

this one i guess

Jupstar ✪

which GPU do you own?

Radeon RX 5500M

16:42

yeah xD

seems like they already discontinued support for it

16:43

in 2022

a bit sad

i mean you could try vulkan to dx12 translation layer

16:46

but it's not very easy to set up. takes at least 5-10min

well i'm kinda tired of this now and it seem to work fine with opengl, so if i don't have further problem i will keep things like this, but thank you

sure, if u feel like testing some day i'll leave this here: step by step 1. download https://github.com/pal1000/mesa-dist-win/releases/download/24.0.7/mesa3d-24.0.7-release-msvc.7z and download a fresh ddnet client from website https://ddnet.org/downloads/DDNet-nightly-win64.zip 2. from the x64 dir of the first downloaded file, unpack dzn_icd.x86_64.json, vulkan_dzn.dll, libspirv_to_dxil.dll, dxil.dll & spirv_to_dxil.dll into the root dir of ddnet (next to ddnet.exe) 3. in powershell type: setx VK_ICD_FILENAMES .\\dzn_icd.x86_64.json 4. start (edited)

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16:54

i should try that out too some day, sounds funny, maybe i already tried actually

Jupstar ✪

i should try that out too some day, sounds funny, maybe i already tried actually

not the same definition of funny xDD