DDraceNetwork - off-topic

Cellegen

did you get a refund at least?

just switched to another flight

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00:42

i have like four people holding their russian passports in front of me (edited)

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00:53

TsFreddie

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SHUT UP! my dad works for ddnet

he will get your points and ranks removed and your ip banned!!11 (edited)

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SHUT UP! my dad works for ddnet

he will get your points and ranks removed and your ip banned!!11 (edited)

@Cellegen

05:34

he spittinh facts

05:35

also gm mugi

garrys mod

Aint it a little boring?

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Room tour

manikoo

07:48

btw i had this pfp last year

Mugi-chan✰

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There was one who had this pfp for 54 years

08:02

poland is so rich

08:02

almost 1st place in the world

08:02

acording to steam

08:03

but seriously, why is polish złoty more expensive than euro???

08:03

thats just insane

pilonpl

but seriously, why is polish złoty more expensive than euro???

? as for now 1 Zloty is 0.23 Euro

Yeah

08:07

And lethal company costs 8.7% less in euro

A BigMac doesn't cost the same in different countries too

Ok

08:11

But it would be nice if the price made any sense at all

08:13

I think the price should be like 50% lower lol

08:14

Pretty much every game on steam is really expensive for some reason

I'm not sure what you mean. 45.99 Zloty are 10.67 Euro

08:17

9.75 doesn't seem that far away

Technically yes

08:17

But its in the wrong direction i'd say (edited)

Exchanging currency costs money

I don't think that's an issue it all

08:19

How does that explain euro being cheaper?

9.75 Euro + (exchange cost) = 10.67 Euro = 45.99 Zloty

I don't think that's how it works

08:21

Something like superhot is cheap in poland

08:21

Literally the cheapest in the entire world

08:21

Lol

TsFreddie

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hotbox boutta go crazy

pilonpl

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Maybe they also consider cost of living?

09:32

Fwiw it's on a by publisher basis too. Steam just suggessts them a regional price but some don't really follow it

Yeah

09:32

I know

meloƞ

shot looks great. I’m jealous

What is the best way to setup a vm for gaming?

11:50

My goal is specifically to run Roblox

11:51

So i guess i need a little bit of performance lol

11:51

I am a bit confused by all those terms

11:51

Like KVM

11:51

QEMU

11:53

There is also PCI pass through

11:53

But idk if it can work nicely with only one gpu

no way, I woke up

pilonpl

What is the best way to setup a vm for gaming?

Two graphic cards

i have only one

Then the display will be only on one machine

thats an issue

EGYT

no way, I woke up

I was solving nonograms till 2AM and woke up at 2PM

pilonpl

i have only one

if you're using linux, single GPU passthrough is possible, where you completly unload your GPU on your host and link it to the VM

12:19

it requires a ton of setup tho

12:19

other than that, you cant really GPU accelerate anything within a VM

12:20

https://github.com/joeknock90/Single-GPU-Passthrough

GitHub - joeknock90/Single-GPU-Passthrough

Contribute to joeknock90/Single-GPU-Passthrough development by creating an account on GitHub.

i would prefer to have access to my host os

12:20

otherwise i can just dual boot lol

12:21

and its the same

single GPU passthrough allows you to seemingly swap between them tho

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2

the VM is running idle in the background, some people just use a keybind to switch

that would be ok i guess

so the VM loads in CLI, and as soon as the GPU is getting linked it starts the WM

12:22

its pretty neat, i tried to set it up

12:22

but doing so on nixOS is a pain

but would my host os apps keep working?

12:22

like discord?

I wish I had a PC powerful enough to even run a VM alongside Linux feelsbadman

pilonpl

but would my host os apps keep working?

no, your VM would be an overlay, so getting back to your host requires you to close the VM / unlink the GPU again (edited)

12:23

or you run discord etc without a GPU creepymery

cant discord run without a gpu?

it uses your gpu to render images and videos afaik (edited)

12:24

so i'd say yes

i mean ok, the vm takes over the whole display i guess with that method

Cpu can also that

Bota

Cpu can also that

yeah i just checked i think turning off Hardware acceleration stops discord from using the gpu

i also found this thing https://looking-glass.io/

pilonpl

i also found this thing https://looking-glass.io/

This is very good for kvm

but do i still need to gpus?

For looking glass yes

yeah

12:27

so thats not something i have

12:27

You can get a cheap one for os and use ur flagship gpu for windown vm

i guess i dont really need that

If someone makes a cheat and then informs the developers about the vulnerabilities it exploits, will they, the author of the cheat, be considered a white hat?

ask noby

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Learath2

Maybe they also consider cost of living?

living costs my sanity

pilonpl

i also found this thing https://looking-glass.io/

wendell moment

TsFreddie

living costs my sanity

Excuse me, that is not very good vibes of you

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EGYT

I wish I had a PC powerful enough to even run a VM alongside Linux feelsbadman

No way Ur pc is that bad, my work pc has old i5 ddr 3 ram 8gb and integrated graphic card and i run linux in vm on windows 10 host

Overlord

No way Ur pc is that bad, my work pc has old i5 ddr 3 ram 8gb and integrated graphic card and i run linux in vm on windows 10 host

My PC is that bad because it doesn't exist, I have a laptop

meloƞ

it requires a ton of setup tho

I did it once, its pain

17:44

You need IOMMU

17:45

and you need to fake the nvidia code, else you get error code 43 from nvidia

yeah i tried and gave up after like 5 hours XD

I needed one week to do this

17:45

now I have windows 11 with gpu passthrough

@lolkildal

а

b

lolkildal

а

чо тв

18:00

лапух

а?

18:01

еблан типа?

да

18:02

пойдем в бравлтк

Mugi-chan✰

пойдем в бравлтк

бро, я играю в кошачий квест 2

18:03

any questions?

э бля

18:04

сука ебаная козлина

да и то я не играл в бравл ни разу, я че похож на еблана?

да поху

18:07

я тоже не играю

lolkildal

да и то я не играл в бравл ни разу, я че похож на еблана?

вообще то да кстати

18:08

когда ник поменяешь

я не играю уже, только на некст выходных зайду из-за того что дарк попросил

а чо перестал

18:10

who is watchin' eurovision song contest?

18:14

germany will suck again, like always

18:15

i'm already embarrassed before it even started

who is watchin Eurovision even

i dunno, i often watch it with friends

18:15

then u can be honest and destroy bad songs

18:15

i listen jpop bruh

18:16

never heard good song on eurovision

18:16

u are also more japnese than ukrain xdd

i got an ad about eurovision today

i have a little ukrainian left in me

Jupstar ✪

u are also more japnese than ukrain xdd

yo, what os u use?

MilkeeyCat

yo, what os u use?

wat, that was a weird topic change

18:18

im thinking about changing distro and im thinking about something from fedora, debian and pop os

debian is only worth it if u want stable os i guess or don't like self compile

ive never seen anyone using fedora justatest

(edited)

it's only for emacs enjoyers xddd.

18:21

linus torvalds fanboys

ok, actually 2 options left

18:21

xd

Mugi-chan✰

i have a little ukrainian left in me

That's an L, imho

Mugi-chan✰

а чо перестал

тильтанул изза комунити(онли дамиплееры и эго хуесосы)

Jupstar ✪

debian is only worth it if u want stable os i guess or don't like self compile

I use Debian on my netbook, installed both KDE Plasma and LXQt on it

18:27

Maaaybe will try Lubuntu minimal install, so I don't have to remove snaps

lolkildal

тильтанул изза комунити(онли дамиплееры и эго хуесосы)

EGYT

That's an L, imho

ты не шаришь о чем говоришь

18:32

i need this shi rn sendhelp

18:44

Avolicious

and you need to fake the nvidia code, else you get error code 43 from nvidia

Or you can be a happy amd user like me

pilonpl

Or you can be a happy amd user like me

no, i stick to nvidia

MilkeeyCat

im thinking about changing distro and im thinking about something from fedora, debian and pop os

Archlinux

i wanna be happy amd user but sadly my phenom died

pilonpl

Archlinux

what u think guys

18:59

i think amd is shit

18:59

now

There aren't really any other alternatives

speak for yourself.

It's either Nvidia or amd

meloƞ

speak for yourself.

what's dat

19:00

dang bro i dunno what this ryzen shit is

and thats why your opinion is invalid

i only used athlon and phenom

meloƞ

and thats why your opinion is invalid

no way

I don't know what athlon or phenom is

lool

pilonpl

I don't know what athlon or phenom is

mugi is just old, dont bother

i just have no moni

19:02

I'm not old

19:02

pilonpl

Archlinux

no thanks

that stuff's from 1999 m8

19:02

doesnt matter how poor you are, you're old

I HAD THIS CPU

meloƞ

doesnt matter how poor you are, you're old

bro i had 2009 athlon

19:03

its not old

MilkeeyCat

no thanks

It's really simple to use and has a friendly manual

pilonpl

It's really simple to use and has a friendly manual

i dont want to break everything just because they let me to install untested shit

MilkeeyCat

no thanks

if you want to code - you should always start with the OS

MilkeeyCat

i dont want to break everything just because they let me to install untested shit

What untested stuff

19:04

Everything just works

MilkeeyCat

i dont want to break everything just because they let me to install untested shit

pacman is completly stable tho - you're talking about AUR which is different

meloƞ

if you want to code - you should always start with the OS

u have no idea what plans i have justatest

MilkeeyCat

u have no idea what plans i have justatest

MILK-OS? !?!?!?!?

19:04

LETSGOOO

pilonpl

Everything just works

Unless you don't want it to work

dude i would help code that 4real

meloƞ

MILK-OS? !?!?!?!?

in milklang

MilkeeyCat

in milklang

Lets make a repo

19:04

And

19:04

Code

thats sounds so pog but it will take shit tons of time

19:05

im reading 3d book about interpreters and have no what i gotta do feelsbadman

https://codeberg.org/melon/milk-os

milk-os

milk-os written in milklang

19:05

lets GOOOOO

Wtf

@MilkeeyCat quick do initial commit

meloƞ

https://codeberg.org/melon/milk-os

ur first task, make a bootloader

meloƞ

lets GOOOOO

let's MILK*

@MilkeeyCat nah im down mate, if you really go that route i'll write a bootloader with you

So how to write a boot loader?

19:07

And how to test if it works

meloƞ

@MilkeeyCat nah im down mate, if you really go that route i'll write a bootloader with you

xd

I would actually love to make my own os

19:08

But i don't have enough skill

19:08

I need to level up first i think

19:09

It would be best to use the linux kernel probably

19:09

But that's kind of boring

what's the license, btw?

MilkeeyCat

xd

https://codeberg.org/melon/milk-os i did first commit

milk-os

milk-os written in milklang

EGYT

what's the license, btw?

damn we need to write our own license first

meloƞ

damn we need to write our own license first

i have one

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19:10

perfect one

go commit it

meloƞ

damn we need to write our own license first

NOOOO-

Wtf is codeberg

i mean, its not mine

19:10

but it's top tier

meloƞ

go commit it

https://github.com/MilkeeyCat/milklang/blob/main/LICENSE.md

pilonpl

Wtf is codeberg

its a source control made for open source projects from germany

So it's not git?

meloƞ

its a source control made for open source projects from germany

So no projects from outside Germany?

it's git but not github?

pilonpl

So it's not git?

github != git

MilkeeyCat

it's git but not github?

added license to repo

it reminded of reddit post justatest

19:13

git and github it's like prn and pornhub xd

milkeey wanna start with rust?

19:13

or go full assembly KEKW

A horible mistake

meloƞ

milkeey wanna start with rust?

im trying to write a compiler in rust

19:14

rust btw (edited)

im talking about our OS

meloƞ

github != git

I know but that weird site could be using some other version control system

pilonpl

I know but that weird site could be using some other version control system

what should they use, SVN? XD

meloƞ

im talking about our OS

milklang == spicy rust

19:15

so its good enough

Mercurial

meloƞ

milklang == spicy rust

https://os.phil-opp.com/ start reading dis justatest

Writing an OS in Rust

This blog series creates a small operating system in the Rust programming language. Each post is a small tutorial and includes all needed code.

nah that one's shit

Actually

19:15

Rust isn't that good of a language

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based C programmer take

WHERE DO WE HAVE SO MANY F4s FROM

MilkeeyCat

https://os.phil-opp.com/ start reading dis justatest

https://mikeos.sourceforge.net/write-your-own-os.html read this

And my opinion is totally valid as a person who has never written anything in rust

meloƞ

https://mikeos.sourceforge.net/write-your-own-os.html read this

im saving it to my readign list x)

my dad is a software developer and has been for approx 35 years

19:16

he hates rust because he hates new syntax

but the typesystem is so fukcing good

he mainly codes in swift

So are actually gonna write an os?

19:17

That would be interesting

MilkeeyCat

but the typesystem is so fukcing good

check repo

meloƞ

check repo

how about we start with compiler

MilkeeyCat

im saving it to my readign list x)

My "Read Later" list includes approximately 1500 Wikipedia articles. (edited)

MilkeeyCat

how about we start with compiler

what kind of compiler you thinking

i have a lexer, u can do the rust justatest

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19:19

rest*

XD

MilkeeyCat

i have a lexer, u can do the rust justatest

i hope you used https://github.com/maciejhirsz/logos

GitHub - maciejhirsz/logos: Create ridiculously fast Lexers

Create ridiculously fast Lexers. Contribute to maciejhirsz/logos development by creating an account on GitHub.

no

am i a sane person

19:20

i shitcoded it myself

EGYT

My "Read Later" list includes approximately 1500 Wikipedia articles. (edited)

And I'm serious.

and it works

19:20

probably

MilkeeyCat

i shitcoded it myself

Someone said "shit code"? Here, have it

Calcy3_hilariously_slim.py

620 bytes

meloƞ

what kind of compiler you thinking

like C but lil more based?

C+

MilkeeyCat

like C but lil more based?

C-

good enough

can we... make a compiler.. for edlang

19:24

but like - make it spicy

Making a compiler in C is actually a cool idea

19:26

Step 1 is making a lexer i guess

pilonpl

Making a compiler in C is actually a cool idea

https://github.com/DoctorWkt/acwj u can read this xd (edited)

i found this one aswell, pretty interesting if you ask me

19:27

dude wrote his entire code history down

There are 64 parts

19:28

2⁶

19:28

So cool

actually its 3.597^3.597

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19:31

hey the math kind of checks out okay!

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Btw

19:49

I've been using arch for 3 months now

19:50

It's such a great os

19:51

It seemed unreachable

19:51

But after reading the friendly manual

19:51

I realised that people just consider reading difficult

19:54

And

19:54

Arch is known for breakages

19:54

But

19:54

I haven't experienced a single issue with arch itself

19:54

Lol

19:55

So i am not sure if i am lucky

19:55

Or maybe i have a pretty generic hardware

19:55

And software configuration

there is a reason ARCH loves its "RTDM"

pilonpl

I haven't experienced a single issue with arch itself

Me too

21:19

Well that would be a lie but it has been nothing severe

21:19

Now that there is archinstall it shouldn't cause anyone trouble

pilonpl

I realised that people just consider reading difficult

A billion percent this. Both arch and gentoo have excellent handbooks

21:38

There is only one issue with these types of distros. It's a lot of work building an experience yourself. You need to decide everything yourself

you guys ever enjoyed, NIXOS?! - (their handbooks are just as confusing as linear algebra to a 6y/o)

I only ever heard of nixos

i mean its a great distro, its completly declarative

21:40

but the fact that its fully declarative, and their wiki is confusing af

21:40

doesnt really help

21:40

https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Flakes this for example is somethjing almost everyone who develops with nix uses

Flakes

Declarative? That sounds interesting

you dont isntall a package through the cli (while you can)

21:41

rather you specify it in a certain .nix file

21:43

so lets say i want to install curl I wouldnt do it using a package manager "per se" (while i could use nix-env which permanently puts for example curl in my local profile of packages, i have to manually maintain them) but that removes the declarative part but rather i'd specify it in the environment.systemPackages

  environment.systemPackages = [
    pkgs.curl
  ];

(edited)

21:43

if i want to remove curl, i just delete the line there are also nix-shells If i say: nix-shell -p python3 i am now in a shell environment with python3 which i can use to build, run, and debug my python3 code If i want python2.7 - i just change it nix-shell -p python2.7 (edited)

21:45

its an amazing tool and while the setup takes a while, its just - awesome

meloƞ

so lets say i want to install curl I wouldnt do it using a package manager "per se" (while i could use nix-env which permanently puts for example curl in my local profile of packages, i have to manually maintain them) but that removes the declarative part but rather i'd specify it in the environment.systemPackages

  environment.systemPackages = [
    pkgs.curl
  ];

(edited)

Hm, is the system watching these files or do you need to trigger the state update somehow?

Learath2

Hm, is the system watching these files or do you need to trigger the state update somehow?

there are flakes, which have a flake.lock file

22:03

and there are regular .nix files, that update on each nixos-rebuild (the thing that actually triggers the installation)

22:04

each nixos-rebuild will create a new generation that you can boot into, thus if you rebuild, and something in your configuration breaks, you can just go back to an OLDER generations and redo/undo your changes there

Now that's an amazing perk

22:05

I could use gentoo in a declarative manner too by just manipulating my use flags and world file, but being able to roll back would be amazing

from their wiki:

Every time the system state is rebuilt using nixos-rebuild switch, a new generation is created. You can revert to the previous generation at any time, which is useful if a configuration change (or system update) turns out to be detrimental.

You can roll back via:

$ nix-env --rollback               # roll back a user environment
$ nixos-rebuild switch --rollback  # roll back a system environment
NixOS also places entries for previous generations in the bootloader menu, so as a last resort you can always revert to a previous configuration by rebooting. To set the currently booted generation as the default run

$ /run/current-system/bin/switch-to-configuration boot
Because NixOS keeps previous generations of system state available in case rollback is desired, old package versions aren't deleted from your system immediately after an update. You can delete old generations manually:

22:08

and this is the most interesting part about nix imo: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_modules

NixOS modules

22:09

people like scrumplex use nixos daily and contributed heavily to their github repo, nix is a programming language, capable of declaring whole configurations iirc he completly declared his nvim setup using nix

Maybe next time I distro hop out of boredom I can try nixos

you can try nixpkgs on your system right now btw ^^

22:14

nixos is the distro nix is the language nixpkg is the package manager

I would never use a non-native package manager on any distro

just look at nixpkgs justatest

Portage is so well integrated into gentoo. And the whole point of gentoo to an extent (edited)

Learath2

Portage is so well integrated into gentoo. And the whole point of gentoo to an extent (edited)

fair :P