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TsFreddie

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Where, kfc?

Ewan

u aspire to be racist old man

Obviously?!

Overlord

Where, kfc?

yes

@T.Charlie why are you lurking

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https://youtube.com/shorts/yk1BIeYOj-s

Uyen Ninh

German etiquette be like

03:31

is this true

Overlord

Where, kfc?

how was your korea trip

06:05

lurker!

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06:05

show yourself

=w=

are you at your new job already

nope…

when

next month (edited)

cool, did they give you compensations at your old one

nope, I request resign by my self

didnt you say they are gonna let you go

06:08

i feel like its been forever since youve said that

just one week ago…

nevermind then

06:10

too bad i dont feel like looking for jobs

06:11

and i have no idea how to work in software i guess

btw, would u like kotlin or swift dev? Seems they keep looking for a mobile app developer (edited)

never worked with either

06:12

also again, no idea how to work in software

how about C++ Qt?

is it like opensource but not opensource?

06:13

lmao

T.Charlie

how about C++ Qt?

nope

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06:13

i mean, ive written in Qt and swift beforn

06:14

but still, doesnt feel like anyone would want a newbie

06:15

i dont think i would ever work in junior position again

06:15

dont feel like grinding exp all over again in software

06:15

that’s okay, most my colleagues didn’t have any experience with Qt. Qt just a framework. So employers more care about C++ basics and coding skills.. (edited)

i mean i could kill it, but still, no desire to grind from junior devs again

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oh, i c

i dont think anyone would hire me for senior or lead position in software

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06:18

probably not in game dev either

06:19

ChatGPT is gonna replace programmers anyways

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And maybe even programming

06:20

Because why write a program when chatgpt can run programs written in english

cuz chinese people dont speak english

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06:21

And russians

pilonpl

ChatGPT is gonna replace programmers anyways

L take

wasnt there a full stack AI pipeline where you just give instructions and let it develop debug and test?

Devin mentioned?

i dont think ive heard about devin

we all gonna be replaced by ai and robots in future owo

That's amazing actually

is that what it was called

It's the next step in evolution

i wanna be a cyborg

06:23

first step: getting a knee brace

06:23

i feel like i need one

https://twitter.com/cognition_labs/status/1767548763134964000

pilonpl

Because why write a program when chatgpt can run programs written in english

Can you explain what you want precisely in English?

Maybe

06:27

I can always check if it is what i want i guess

06:28

Btw there is this thing DLSS

06:28

And it works pretty well lol

06:28

Better graphics is actually about doing less work

06:29

That makes a lot of sense if you think about it

why is DLSS thrown into the conversation

Because it's kind of ai

06:29

And it actually works

I'm a FSR believer

06:31

just for the openness

Yes

06:31

But nvidia is ahead

06:32

Re rendering everything every frame seems really wasteful

06:33

So i guess thise ai techniques do make sense

dlss just allows the engine to render at low res

06:35

its a smart upscale

It can create entirely new frames too

is frame gen using prev frame and motion vector or prev frame and next frame

06:50

cuz the second one sounds a lot more like latency to me

Vectors i guess

I feel like it'd be really freaking good at guessing frame-based alpha particle animations since those usually don't comes with motion vectors

06:52

if it doesn't, the full screen alpha effect would become much worse than they already are i think

06:53

~~to be fair people should stop using alpha effects and just do opaque particles at 16K for that crisp particle simulations~~

To be fair it's up to the devs to make the game look good

dlss makes new games forget about common optimizations and they should do these too

06:54

like factorio

06:54

smart ppl

meanwhile me trying to render a full open enviroment on quest 2 at 72fps

06:55

upscaler breaks too easily on VR btw

Ryozuki

like factorio

Idk how i would even approach simulating an entire factory

06:56

60 tps

you get an idea, make that happening and just keep finding breakthroughs

the game never dips

i imgaine that's how every optimization works

I wonder if factorio could run better if it was run at 20 tps

06:57

Bigger steps basically

TsFreddie

i imgaine that's how every optimization works

its knowledge of how computers work

06:57

and algoa

06:58

algos

i mean ye, but i think you need a game first

do u even think about optimizing for cache line sizes if u do t know about its existance?

i'm pretty sure you'll know about once you start trying to make it go brrrrr

idk

Ryozuki

do u even think about optimizing for cache line sizes if u do t know about its existance?

Sadly most of the gamedevs don't know shit

ok, not pretty sure, but I think the optimization shouldn't come first in game building in anyway.

TsFreddie

ok, not pretty sure, but I think the optimization shouldn't come first in game building in anyway.

I don't think you should build a game without looking at performance

07:00

Then you'd just need to rewrite everything afterwards

ye, but you can rebuild it after you've made your creative decisions

Teero

Then you'd just need to rewrite everything afterwards

i mean ye

07:00

gamedev rewrite stuff

07:00

that's normal

07:00

the whole game

07:00

i mean do it

meh. Just why not just do it the best you can at the first try instead of writing shitty code?

Teero

meh. Just why not just do it the best you can at the first try instead of writing shitty code?

i don't think people should write shitty code tho

07:02

it doesn't mean just make it however you want.

idk I don't like writing stuff that I know can be optimised

everyone has their knowledge cap, but you shouldn't let your cap define how you design your games

07:03

people evolve

cap can increase

07:04

no cap

yea. What Im saying is just you shouldn't write unoptimised code just because you are lazy. If you don't know how to optimise it that's fine. Just write code until it is perfect to your current knowledge

that's what I've been saying? how are you gonna make a finished product if you keep focusing on raising your own bar

Teero

yea. What Im saying is just you shouldn't write unoptimised code just because you are lazy. If you don't know how to optimise it that's fine. Just write code until it is perfect to your current knowledge

i don't think people does that

Hit max lvl

07:05

xd

management might do that on people

07:06

but i believe in doing your best

I guess just don't do anything stupid?

basically

or do something stupid and have someone look after it

Ofc some people only care about . money

I'm still waiting for people pointing out my shitty code

07:06

no one does that at work

07:06

it is weird

Teero

Ofc some people only care about . money

me shaking in greed

07:07

~~also most game ideas are not that computational expensive anyway.~~ (edited)

But you can make them computationally expensive xd (edited)

also video game is a wonderful thing where you can just flatten your computational cost across frames

07:08

since it is somewhat realtime

07:08

even if you suck at algos, you can make pretty cool optimization for your existing mess

07:09

simulation heavy game excluded ofc

Most algos are pretty simple once you've implemented them once properly imo

ye, but people might just never heard of them

-O3

Yea that's often the case

pilonpl

-O3

Cheating

Best optimization lol

pilonpl

-O3

crying in C#

07:10

Unity does this thing where it compiles C# to .NET IL code then translate IL code into C++ code then run C++ compiler optimization over it

07:11

it is the most monstrous thing but it works ~~most of the time~~

07:12

I still need to file bug reports about the IL2CPP compilers from time to time

Yesterday I wondered what the fuck Simulated annealing is

07:12

But it's pretty cool

Teero

Yesterday I wondered what the fuck Simulated annealing is

we learn that in high school

07:12

but I've forgotten most of it

07:12

I don't have my developer brain formed in high school yet

Teero

Yesterday I wondered what the fuck Simulated annealing is

I have no idea what that is lol

07:13

How is that even possible

07:13

I heard about so many things

07:13

Bot not this

I only started to understand what depth-search was actually for on my flight to my college.

07:13

it's like my brain being turned on for the first time.

07:14

most of my high school years I was like just remembering algorithm for the sake of it, and i couldn't understand half of the stuff that is thrown at me

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_annealing

Simulated annealing

Simulated annealing (SA) is a probabilistic technique for approximating the global optimum of a given function. Specifically, it is a metaheuristic to approximate global optimization in a large search space for an optimization problem. For large numbers of local optima, SA can find the global optima. It is often used when the search space is dis...

07:14

It's basically picking random stuff to figure out stuff

pilonpl

I have no idea what that is lol

it's just called that. it's basically finding a most probable solution in a space or something

TsFreddie

how was your korea trip

It still is, I will come to Ur flat soon, U are already triangulated

07:14

Afk

i think it is more of a statistical model than purely a algorithm?

07:16

man high school memory are the worse

Idk, i was able to path find in a ddnet map using python

07:18

And it run pretty quickly

07:18

Lol

i don't think you can model path finding using that

Idk

07:19

I don't need optimization is what i'm saying

probably has some linear space input requirement or something like that

07:19

what are you using for path finding tho

I used some graph library, constructed a graph based on the ddnet map and ran dijkstra

07:21

Pretty cool that it worked

07:22

Python is amazing because of all the libraries

07:23

But overall it's a pretty bad language

dijkstra

07:23

could do better i think

07:23

although it is probably good enough

07:23

so basically

A*

07:23

I guess

pilonpl

I don't need optimization is what i'm saying

you are a liar, that is already optimized, you are just a wizard.

07:24

my google interview asked me about robotic path finding given a blind map where you have to build the graph as you go

07:25

my brain blanked

07:25

didn't get the job for obvious reason

Flood fill?

07:25

Idk

probably not that simple

07:26

or maybe it is that simple and I'm just stupid

07:27

i mean it would just be a search algorithm if the graph isn't there

07:27

but i don't think the interviewer buys that

07:27

still don't know what they were expecting

07:27

actually. most google interviews (there are like 7) i don't get what they actually wants

07:27

and it is weird for a grad student for a lot of the questions

07:28

i remember one asked me how much memory it uses for a python dictionary to hold a million entries...

07:30

I can only go off on guessing how python implemented their dictionary, how it grows and whether it holds value or pointers, but they doesn't seem impressed and I have zero idea what to do next.

07:30

had some nice conversations tho

07:30

didn't made it obviously

TsFreddie

is this true

I don't see any truth in this, sorry

are you german

yes

~~god damn it another german~~

im catalan owo

I'm sorry you feel like that

i kid

want candy (edited)

most admins are german

07:31

i think

07:32

except the cutie learath (edited)

except*

07:32

kek

i'm chinese, give me some slack

07:32

plus i'm chatting at work

im catalan so im not english native either

07:32

neither are germans i guess (edited)

07:33

07:37

got more work to do

07:37

brb

TsFreddie

i remember one asked me how much memory it uses for a python dictionary to hold a million entries...

That's a stupid question i think

i mean

07:37

ye

07:38

but google asked it

07:38

maybe they are trying to push off some random chinese guy when trump just got elected

TsFreddie

i remember one asked me how much memory it uses for a python dictionary to hold a million entries...

i mean

07:38

if they tell u what they store

07:38

u can calculate

07:38

but u cant know exactly

07:38

because u dont know the algorithm they use for capacity

07:39

growth

i mean, id imagine most cases it would be pointers. i mean i asked what are we storing

07:39

they said strings so i assumed it would be pointers

TsFreddie

i mean, id imagine most cases it would be pointers. i mean i asked what are we storing

not at all if u use a decent one

07:39

most dicts, aka hashmaps are done using arrays

07:39

https://edgarluque.com/blog/rust-hashmap/

Implementing a simple Hashmap in Rust

A quick dive into how a hash map works.

07:39

i have a blog

are strings not pointers

open addressing hashmaps

07:40

a dict is not a string

i mean ofc i mean an array of pointers

but i guess u dont know enough about dicts

07:40

because when u said pointers i initially thought u mean closed addressing hashmaps

07:40

which are implemented using linked lists

07:40

which are pointers everywhere

07:40

but they perform worse

07:40

than open ones

07:41

cuz array and cache locality

i dont think i mean linked lists at all

...

07:41

a dict using closed addressing is implemented using one is what i mean

i just assumed they would be storing string pointer values in an array

read my blog post

07:41

got work to do

07:44

work done

07:45

work being pushing a button to build

07:45

TsFreddie

probably not that simple

I think you just assume the most optimistic path and adjust it as you gain information

Ryozuki

https://edgarluque.com/blog/rust-hashmap/

real world implementation

How can i contact with deen?

KinG-PoWeR

How can i contact with deen?

why do you want to?

Would've been cool if I could ask -Martin! if he could remake cool_glowfox into .svg (edited)

Ryozuki

https://edgarluque.com/blog/rust-hashmap/

That syntax highlighting looks so nice :o

08:57

what's the colorscheme called?

Fussel

real world implementation

xddd funny

08:58

u mean a low perfomance one

08:58

https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/library/std/src/collections/hash/map.rs

08:59

https://github.com/rust-lang/hashbrown/blob/master/src/map.rs

Teero

That syntax highlighting looks so nice :o

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09:00

ayu-dark

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What a bliss

09:08

I wish hashmaps were O(1) (edited)

09:08

:sadge:

Teero

I wish hashmaps were O(1) (edited)

They are close enough

Worst case would be O(n) right?

they are roughly O(1), if not, you're misusing them in some way

09:28

(not enough memory, insufficient hash function, …)

Learath2

They are close enough

HR called me

09:32

asked me about why I want to leave. and I think they didn't believe me when I say "I just want more time to do my things"

09:33

Teero

Worst case would be O(n) right?

Worst case is indeed O(n), though you must have one insanely degenerate hashmap for it to get that bad

xD

TsFreddie

asked me about why I want to leave. and I think they didn't believe me when I say "I just want more time to do my things"

Lol

Learath2

Worst case is indeed O(n), though you must have one insanely degenerate hashmap for it to get that bad

Brand new sentence xd

But I did drop a "I feel like everyone is kinda incompetent here" bomb on them

09:34

maybe I shouldn't have

Insults usually don't achieve good things xd

Learath2

Worst case is indeed O(n), though you must have one insanely degenerate hashmap for it to get that bad

»all values are the same« would be sufficient ^^

ye

I just started a new internship and now I need to read thousands of lines of code to get familiar

Learath2

I just started a new internship and now I need to read thousands of lines of code to get familiar

ohh is it C?

Learath2

I just started a new internship and now I need to read thousands of lines of code to get familiar

is this your first?

Ryozuki

ohh is it C?

Go

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Teero

Insults usually don't achieve good things xd

Yeah, those things in the brain... yuck X(

Learath2

Go

ouch

Learath2

Go

Go believers are huge in web

09:35

there was a go + htmx gang

TsFreddie

is this your first?

Yep. Honestly really not in the mood to work. Maybe I'm incompatible with the modern world (edited)

go is simple, but simplicity comes back later to stab u

TsFreddie

Go believers are huge in web

slowly switching over to rust

Learath2

Yep. Honestly really not in the mood to work. Maybe I'm incompatible with the modern world (edited)

congrats anyway

Thanks boss

well first job is always pain (edited)

09:36

but u get xp

09:36

makes easier to get next one

Learath2

Thanks boss

omg am I a careerist now

@Learath2 if its not a big corpo u can always do hints about doing X with Y, Y being C

Ryozuki

but u get xp

is xp just a metric for you, or do you value the actual experience for xp

TsFreddie

is xp just a metric for you, or do you value the actual experience for xp

learath already has coding xp, he is better than all in the company probs

09:37

its a metric for companies

Ryozuki

@Learath2 if its not a big corpo u can always do hints about doing X with Y, Y being C

Hahaha, C sadly doesn't fit anything here. It's like the antithesis of C

Ryozuki

learath already has coding xp, he is better than all in the company probs

i think seeing how a company works is kinda fine

yeah he will now learn the world of working

i poke around at other occupations just to see how they work, it is quite interesting (and incompetent)

@Learath2 if ur boss sometimes says smth u disagree, like C is bad, sometimes its not worht to discuss

09:39

i think i just have too huge of a ego, but I just feel like I can do better than the marketing positions and game design positions

Every time someone mentions "xp" I always think of minecraft xd lerato enchants his code

Ryozuki

@Learath2 if ur boss sometimes says smth u disagree, like C is bad, sometimes its not worht to discuss

I'm in the very unique position that I don't particularly give a shit whether they keep me or not

Learath2

I'm in the very unique position that I don't particularly give a shit whether they keep me or not

oh yeah i had that happen too

09:39

which is why i said anything i wanted

Learath2

I'm in the very unique position that I don't particularly give a shit whether they keep me or not

oh wow, we are in the same boat

but they saw i was good

09:39

xd

09:40

in that case preach C

09:40

like i preached rust at my old jobs

09:40

(they used pyson)

Ryozuki

but they saw i was good

ye, this is kinda the ultimate card to play. learath would get that for sure

and js

I can only get this privilege in gamedev tho

09:41

i couldn't survive software i think

tell them how rust error management is better than go

09:41

kek

09:41

Look at what this shitty automated installer did to my poor PATH

/home/learath2/.encore/bin:/home/learath2/.cargo/bin:/home/learath2/.local/bin:/home/learath2/go/bin:/home/learath2/.cargo/bin:/home/learath2/.local/bin:/home/learath2/go/bin:/home/learath2/.cargo/bin:/home/learath2/.local/bin:/home/learath2/go/bin:

....

oh

09:42

first rule, try to isolate ur work env xd

Learath2

Look at what this shitty automated installer did to my poor PATH

/home/learath2/.encore/bin:/home/learath2/.cargo/bin:/home/learath2/.local/bin:/home/learath2/go/bin:/home/learath2/.cargo/bin:/home/learath2/.local/bin:/home/learath2/go/bin:/home/learath2/.cargo/bin:/home/learath2/.local/bin:/home/learath2/go/bin:

....

May your path rest in peace lmao

I would set up a vm but don't feel like it

my friend setup a docker container

Maybe I should just get an extra laptop

they didnt give u one right

09:43

i got a m1 from my company

Ryozuki

they didnt give u one right

Nope, I'm but an intern and this isn't a massive company

Ryozuki

i got a m1 from my company

apple term?

?

What's an M1? xD

apple m1

Ye ok

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_M1

Apple M1

Apple M1 is a series of ARM-based system-on-a-chip (SoC) designed by Apple Inc. as a central processing unit (CPU) and graphics processing unit (GPU) for its Mac desktops and notebooks, and the iPad Pro and iPad Air tablets. The M1 chip initiated Apple's third change to the instruction set architecture used by Macintosh computers, switching from...

Can you run Gentoo on it?

idk

09:45

asahi linux

09:45

https://asahilinux.org/

Asahi Linux

Porting Linux to Apple Silicon

Btw is Mac performance good?

ye

I only hear ppl rant about windows all the time (edited)

compiling it went nearly on par with my 5800x

Let's see if I can get this weird web69 tool to work with podman instead of docker

for ddnet

Teero

Btw is Mac performance good?

mac is used by ppl working xd

09:47

not games

true

I wonder if you can run a docker container in a docker container

i tried once justatest

09:48

coudnt make it work

09:48

but i saw ppl say it's possible

Learath2

I wonder if you can run a docker container in a docker container

u can

09:48

docker in docker

Ryozuki

tell them how rust error management is better than go

honestly I hardly see rust having a place in chinese established workspace for now. we are like japanese but a little bit better

09:49

japanese arcade devs are still using DX9 calls

oh rust is used there a lot

09:49

just not in ur space

e

09:49

ye

09:49

and we are still using java for backend

https://users.rust-lang.org/t/welcome-to-china-rust-china-conf-2023/95647

Welcome to China （RUST CHINA CONF 2023）

09:50

kek

09:50

i seen quite some crates

09:50

but i dont remember now

i guess native dev might have something cooking. I've never applied anything requiring native xp

i know a japanese one

09:51

https://github.com/raviqqe

raviqqe - Overview

raviqqe has 307 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.

i mean there definitely are rust

Yota Toyama sounds japanese

just the huge career is still operating on 7 year old techs

most companies are

09:52

here too

java as backend still baffles me

09:53

but apparently most of netease backend devs are java since the two most senior devs here still uses java exclusively

we use elixir/erlang, rust

i still couldn't learn rust to save my life

09:55

i mean i probably want to

I have a colleague who used to written Rust in Mihoyo…

it's just hard to squeeze more care out of me rn

whats mihoyo

Ryozuki

whats mihoyo

genshin impact

T.Charlie

I have a colleague who used to written Rust in Mihoyo…

mihoyo are hippies tho

Ryozuki

whats mihoyo

Only the best company ever

mid

they aren't even a huge cooperate by any means before genshin exploded

09:56

they probably aren't that huge now either

I have so much corpotext to read pepeW

. Do I really need to know your business strategy and values to code?

not rly

09:57

u can skip

they just have way too much money

Learath2

I have so much corpotext to read pepeW

. Do I really need to know your business strategy and values to code?

does it say we are all family?

Ryozuki

does it say we are all family?

Didn't get to that part yet

Learath2

I have so much corpotext to read pepeW

. Do I really need to know your business strategy and values to code?

i still don't know what we are doing as a company rn

09:57

so it's probably fine

me neither but apparently we raised 2.6M$

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09:58

on a sub company

gg

well i didnt raise anything

me neither but apparently our head counts are too low that they sliced one of my team member in the middle of crunching

hope i get some

09:58

kek

gotta hate that

do u think they reinvest the money

09:59

while they dont use it

09:59

like to pay salaries

09:59

and such

Ryozuki

do u think they reinvest the money

i don't think it is a money problem

10:00

sounds like pressure from stakeholders

10:00

they don't want us doing too many business

lol

our stakeholders are hardware manufactures and huge video game companies. both of them would really like us to stay in our lane and stop doing researches

lol sucks

~~i think~~

10:01

i don't know the detail but i think that is what's happening

10:02

cuz we are definitely not low on money

Ryozuki

does it say we are all family?

Got to that part. They went the "We are not a family, we are a team" route (edited)

Learath2

Got to that part. They went the "We are not a family, we are a team" route (edited)

you ate families?

10:03

ah fast edit

Too slow to capitalize on my typo nobo

kek

i don't think we have we are family part

10:03

or maybe i just didn't read any of that

10:04

i don't remember which

Maybe I should just find simpler work and code as a hobby

10:05

I bet baristas don't need to read this much

@Learath2 honestly, it'll probably only take a year before you are the one doing whatever you want cuz your employer couldn't afford to lose you

Learath2

I bet baristas don't need to read this much

oh man, i think our local coffee brands are worse (edited)

10:06

they get to yell slogans in the morning and shit (edited)

Dont tell them but I have no intention of staying here a year. I only took this so I have something to do for a couple months while I think about what I really want to do

Learath2

Dont tell them but I have no intention of staying here a year. I only took this so I have something to do for a couple months while I think about what I really want to do

not just this company, i mean in general

Oic

or i guess you could be so unmanagable it is worse to keep you around but I guess that could be adapted

10:07

at least I think I'm a unmanagable mess of a human being

10:08

but everyone seems to want me to stick around so maybe it wasn't a huge issue

10:08

i'm not even that techy

Ryozuki

we use elixir/erlang, rust

btw, will ur company hiring fully remote rust developer?

they could yes

10:12

but its prefered if u speak spanish/english

10:13

xD

cool!!! thx!! I’ll ask my collegue. idk whether or not he could speaking English.

T.Charlie

cool!!! thx!! I’ll ask my collegue. idk whether or not he could speaking English.

are you not interested in remote work now

10:21

or are you trying not to bail on your new job lol

TsFreddie

or are you trying not to bail on your new job lol

I’ll keep my new job. Just trying to find some opportunities for my colleague. Seems he may prefer rust than c++. (edited)

everyone prefer rust than anything else native

10:26

I would prefer rust if I know how to write rust

The future is Rust

it's just really not in me rn

Understandable

if I allocate more time for rust on top of the current 30hrs per work day shenanigans i'd probably just die.

TsFreddie

everyone prefer rust than anything else native

what does native mean here

anything compiles to machine code I think

??

gamedev just call those native code

rust compiles to machine code

ye anything else native

10:28

rust is native, better than other natives

ok

10:28

confusing xd

i'm bad at english

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10:29

also can you not attack me when I'm on your side bro lmao (edited)

TsFreddie

i'm bad at english

u pro (tell me how to practice English x.x

T.Charlie

u pro (tell me how to practice English x.x

idk. lurk more

T.Charlie

u pro (tell me how to practice English x.x

heinrich DM me way too many times for grammar and spelling corrections than confortable

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10:30

i'm pretty bad

10:31

I probably still need grammarly or something when writing formal emails

Ryozuki

what does native mean here

i probably mean if writing native code, anyone would prefer rust. idk if scripting people would prefer rust like you do.

10:33

if that make more sense

10:33

probably not

TsFreddie

I probably still need grammarly or something when writing formal emails

I learned more English from The Web than from school. For example, the word "xnopyt" can make you disappe- (edited)

I can't imagine our level designers writing rust any time soon

EGYT

I learned more English from The Web than from school. For example, the word "xnopyt" can make you disappe- (edited)

i'm not gonna say that I get that tom scott reference just to be relatable

TsFreddie

i'm not gonna say that I get that tom scott reference just to be relatable

You already said that. Too bad, try harder

I don't get it

pilonpl

I don't get it

long answer https://youtu.be/m8niIHChc1Y

Tom Scott

What Counts as a Word?

pilonpl

I don't get it

short answer https://youtu.be/aMgCBYgVwsI

Kasami

Tom disintegrates at the thought of xnopyt

11:38

not sure if this is the part you want to understand tho

Ryozuki

learath already has coding xp, he is better than all in the company probs

You seem to be right. These people might have more specific experience than me, but even the senior dude seems to lack critical basics

ye i had this happen too xd

Learath2

You seem to be right. These people might have more specific experience than me, but even the senior dude seems to lack critical basics

welcome to the workplace

Learath2

You seem to be right. These people might have more specific experience than me, but even the senior dude seems to lack critical basics

screw coding. get to know how company runs. then get everyone here together in a ddnet-based tech startup

12:12

12:12

minimum standard for games is 1000 fps

dont make game!

Ryozuki

minimum standard for games is 1000 fps

vulkan

why would a bunch of fully capable wizards fall so low to video games

fun :D

12:14

i dont see it

12:14

do i look like im having fun owo

you don't have fully capable wizards at youre workplace owo

i think what im actually saying is that: (edited)

12:15

dont kill my business before i even started one

12:15

12:16

or you can hire me for the chinese market and see your game never actually get approved for 4 years

12:17

i dont think i would engage with the chinese gaming market myself

12:17

at least not solely for it

12:20

one other thing i learned during working at companies, chinese studios suck at globalization, like embarrassingly so. Another reason that Im a lot more confident about going solo is that I think I am much more capable of putting out actual games for the english speaking market without worrying about local restrictions and stuff. all the company i worked for got so fixated on the chinese market, struggling to put out actual products.

Im finally in hotel

12:22

@Learath2 U were right about okonomiyaki

TsFreddie

i dont think i would engage with the chinese gaming market myself

Major updates need revision too, which sucks badly

TsFreddie

one other thing i learned during working at companies, chinese studios suck at globalization, like embarrassingly so. Another reason that Im a lot more confident about going solo is that I think I am much more capable of putting out actual games for the english speaking market without worrying about local restrictions and stuff. all the company i worked for got so fixated on the chinese market, struggling to put out actual products.

If U make an actual chinese hentai like " mirror " but with better gameplay im Urs

12:27

Chinese gaming market is so weird even behemoth like old blizzard had to have inside help

Overlord

@Learath2 U were right about okonomiyaki

Did you enjoy it?

Learath2

Did you enjoy it?

Well yes, im glad i didnt choose oyster one

12:32

But i had stupid situation there

12:33

But overall 7-8/10

12:33

Tho really big portion

Overlord

Well yes, im glad i didnt choose oyster one

Oyster would be tough

Learath2

Oyster would be tough

Why?

Overlord

Why?

Do you like oyster? It is an acquired taste

why would I make hentai as a gay man

Learath2

Do you like oyster? It is an acquired taste

I dont dislike it, tho its rare to eat in poland

12:37

I tried the oyster okonomiyaki

12:37

And thought mine ( shrim and octopi ) is better

TsFreddie

why would I make hentai as a gay man

Fury shades of gay 2

12:37

Btw while we are on this topic

12:38

I had a huge culture shock meeting caucasian tranny today

12:38

I thought they only lived in my head

12:40

Also curry oyster bread was pretty good

@Overlord did you have curry, ramen, tempura or gyudon? All very important things

Learath2

@Overlord did you have curry, ramen, tempura or gyudon? All very important things

I had curry at shrine restaurant, mediocre, and one from 7/11 i fried myself pretty nice, had 8/10 ramen, as for tempura, only tempura vegetables

Worst thing happening

16:43

Being sick and unable to sleep while havinf to wake up super early tomorrow

16:45

Must have been cursed at shrines for only dropping 1 and 10 yen coins

Overlord

Must have been cursed at shrines for only dropping 1 and 10 yen coins

Do 5 yen coins to recover

Learath2

Do 5 yen coins to recover

I only have one

Overlord

Being sick and unable to sleep while havinf to wake up super early tomorrow

How unable and how super early? If it isn't too too bad and you don't have to wake up too too early, I find just getting up and doing something else for like half an hour helps a lot

Till 2h ago i didnt know they rxist

Preferably something not very exciting and doesnt involve electronics. Reading a couple dozen pages of marxist literature or old classics put me right to sleep

1

If i drop asleep now its 6h of sleep,

16:55

Cant really use light in 2 people room, + i only have one buddhist pamhplet to read

In that case, watching nilered might help

I have to power through to make this trip worth ehile

Or a 10 hour 100% speedrun of gta san andreas

Learath2

Or a 10 hour 100% speedrun of gta san andreas

10h in 6h must be some any% feat

Overlord

I have to power through to make this trip worth ehile

This is my motto for all trips. I walk my feet off and delay sickness by willpower

I wasted 50% of my meds

Overlord

10h in 6h must be some any% feat

You pass out as they finish up the los santos part of the run. It's not very fun to watch

Sorry im vice city guy

16:58

I have a week left in theory

16:58

But while I can walk the body its hard to change my mood to positive

16:58

(I dont have too positive outlook on life)

16:59

Aight im dropping phone back down

16:59

I wish they had something like instant sleep solution in these vending machines

17:00

Also got lucky again and seen the burning of bad fortune at shrine

17:00

I only have two shrines left to visit ( that are a goal)

17:01

Then one day for akihabara so I can die a weeb

17:02

Have a good nught

Oh, my newbie leaf is gone. Still not enough skills to play most of Novice maps :^(

Overlord

Have a good nught

Did you manage to fall asleep?

*whispering* Shh!

Don't wake him up.

this is what happens to me too, if I ever get desperate enough to type in discord during a sleepless night, it usually is when I'm actually very close to physically fall asleep but am hitting a mental block

18:17

waiting for a discord message that doesn't get replied to is just mind occupying but boring enough that I fall asleep