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is it me or does discord's font looking kinda off today

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looks bigger

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TsFreddie

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Wonderful, they gave U entire pan!!

wtf

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TsFreddie

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Hm, is that fish or guts?

fish

fsh

fs

phish

It"s a pan!

09:30

@Ryozuki i tried real fake jamon, it means the cardboard said made in spain, and it most likely was imported from spain

if u didnt like it its fake

09:31

was it rly dry

As for the taste kinda tasted like schwarzdzwald beef sliced

idk what that is

Wait ima send a pic

09:32

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09:32

Thing is... even if it was dry before, it spent like 3 months

hmm

In my fridge

idk doesnt look best xd

09:32

fridge?

09:32

xd

And it was also in foil

09:32

Yes

09:33

Its not unratable but not my taste

09:33

My mom really liked it tho

u need to come to spain

Im going to jp in few days

09:33

So make spain go there

09:33

Conquista

09:36

I need to travel entire world now for food, because the older I get, the worse i feel after eating fried meat with fat

09:36

Like ribs fried on pan

Overlord

Im going to jp in few days

come to china on the side

TsFreddie

come to china on the side

I actually wanted to go to china because of its landscape way more than Jp

10:14

But my fellow traveler is scared of ccp

10:15

But he isnt aware that U can spend a year in jp prison without sentence

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Overlord

But my fellow traveler is scared of ccp

Premier Xi is a benevolent one, he would never mistreat you

Learath2

Premier Xi is a benevolent one, he would never mistreat you

I know that, but my friend is not You (me), and sometimes Xi mistreats him or them or even her!

Must be a misunderstanding. His grace is most generous

owo

13:11

i got no comment on that

You mean you wholeheartedly agree

I probably just lost my chinah pass :(

How dangerous using public wifi can actually be?

13:21

I hear a lot about it

13:22

But why would it be dangerous

13:22

There is encryption

13:22

And certificates

13:22

So i would assume it should be safe

It really depends

13:33

U can get dns poisoned if U have automatic dns settings

13:34

So instead of getting on facebook.com (original) U end on facebook.com (fake) dspite correct url

13:34

But other than that, I dont really see issue for operating system with firewall up be it on phone or pc

pilonpl

And certificates

A state entity can craft a certificate that would be accepted by your browser but would be completely fake. There are bugs that can force a downgrade from https to http on outdated browsers and phones (and maybe even zerodays)

13:35

Dns poisoning is also a concern yep

13:36

Dns is by default plaintext so an attacker can watch what you are resolving potentially say figuring out what bank you use

Learath2

Dns is by default plaintext so an attacker can watch what you are resolving potentially say figuring out what bank you use

Pilon uses ipko

13:37

His cash is not safe at all

When I use public wifi I'm always on a vpn and even then I just don't do very sensitive things

Learath2

When I use public wifi I'm always on a vpn and even then I just don't do very sensitive things

No wonder no spy girl has approached yet

Good point, maybe I should start doing sus things on public wifi

YES.

13:41

@Learath2 can phone leak imei through wifii?

Nope, that would be bad

:/ poor terrorist cant easily impersonate other humans

But maybe by controlling both a fake gsm antenna and a malicious wifi in the space, you can enumerate the imeis

Och thats certainly possible, sadly U have to force the communication back to 2G with these fake antenas

Well if you are a state entity you just might be able to. Either by jamming non 2g frequencies or by having access to 3g/4g networking equipment and code

Learath2

Well if you are a state entity you just might be able to. Either by jamming non 2g frequencies or by having access to 3g/4g networking equipment and code

Yo. Why not just go to the provider?

13:48

They bend easily

Overlord

Yo. Why not just go to the provider?

Well you might not have a good relationship with the host country of the provider. Who might not want to confirm that an IMSI belongs to someone

13:49

But yes, much easier

Learath2

A state entity can craft a certificate that would be accepted by your browser but would be completely fake. There are bugs that can force a downgrade from https to http on outdated browsers and phones (and maybe even zerodays)

I am probably not a target for a state entity lol

13:50

And dns i can set manually somewhere on my device i think

@Learath2 since U are online, are the JP public toilets easily accessible and every 20m or on every gas station?

1.1.1.1

pilonpl

And dns i can set manually somewhere on my device i think

Yes but with auto dns* on, it sets to whatever the network provides (edited)

That's really stupid lol

Auto dns

pilonpl

That's really stupid lol

Nope its convienient

So how does dns work

13:52

Is it provided by the isp or router or device?

It checks for what U are typing in register it has (compres name to ip) and shits U there

13:52

Its provided by ur operating system all the way to isp aka U can have local dns

13:52

If U are able to keep up to date

pilonpl

And dns i can set manually somewhere on my device i think

It's still plaintext dns. You want DoT or DoH

1.1.1.1 is DoH i think

13:53

Isn't it?

Only if you enable it

Oh

And not all devices even support that

Ok so how can i make sure my network and my device is safe from dns exploits lol

Me feeling like 90 yo grandpa shouting that back in my day... and pointing to hosts file

Overlord

@Learath2 since U are online, are the JP public toilets easily accessible and every 20m or on every gas station?

Every train station (I've been to) has one, and they are extremely clean

Learath2

Every train station (I've been to) has one, and they are extremely clean

So I dont have to worry about, "shitting" at hotel beforehand to make sure I dont die along the way huh? Glad to know it really worried me

pilonpl

Ok so how can i make sure my network and my device is safe from dns exploits lol

Honestly the best practice on public wifi is just using a vpn and making sure the vpn kills every connection that doesnt go through it

But like my local network

13:55

Home network

(Looking at czech republic where nothing is "free"

pilonpl

But like my local network

Home router uses isp dns unless U change it, to whatever U want (like pi hole dns or cloudflare 1.1.1.1)

I changed it to 1.1.1.1 recently

pilonpl

But like my local network

Define safe. What do you need it to be safe from? A local attacker? A remote one?

Learath2

Define safe. What do you need it to be safe from? A local attacker? A remote one?

Mothers!

Learath2

Define safe. What do you need it to be safe from? A local attacker? A remote one?

Well, remote attackers

13:57

~~i am not at all safe from local attackers and i know it lol~~

Meh, local attackers are easy to spot unless U live in a flat

NAT pretty much protects you from all remote attackers. Except your ISP, if you don't trust them you should use encrypted dns and make sure everything goes through https

13:59

If you don't trust your government either use a vpn. They can just craft certificates and thus fake any https website that doesnt have pinning

The government can create certificates?

14:00

How do certificates get on my devices lol

14:02

Also dns can point me to a wrong ip address and certificates don't prevent that, right?

pilonpl

The government can create certificates?

Yes, they have root certificates that are trusted. They aren't supposed to sign anything but their own stuff with it, but it's just a courtesy deal. Not like vendors have legal or physical recourse

pilonpl

Also dns can point me to a wrong ip address and certificates don't prevent that, right?

Certificates are what are supposed to prevent this. A malicious dns server can point you to the wrong ip, but they can't craft a certificate for that domain

Oh ok

So as long as it's https and a government isn't after your ass, you can be sure you are on the correct site

So certificates are connected to the domain

Yep, a certificate is basically a proof of control of a domain

Yeah that makes sense

14:06

So the issue with dns is that it is not encrypted quite often

14:06

And the isp can see what websites you visit

Btw just want to throw in that antivirues on windows often mitm people by supplanting their own certs

Yep or on public wifi the owner of the cafe can see what websites you are visiting

Also if U ever work in big corporation they often mitm people too

Overlord

Btw just want to throw in that antivirues on windows often mitm people by supplanting their own certs

Yes, this is also a thing. Your antivirus or your corporate overlords may have put their own root. We had this at our highschool

I have this at my workplace, despite noone doing it on purpose as we dont even have AV server

14:09

(Also its polish antivirus "arcabit"

)

It's quite rare but back in early 2010s there was a toor certificate compromise where people crafted fake certificates for google and stuff. That was a disaster

Ok so i have one more question, how do the certificates get onto my device

pilonpl

Ok so i have one more question, how do the certificates get onto my device

Vendors put them on there, so Microsoft and if you are using Firefox Mozilla have a set of root certificates they ship

Right

14:12

But when i download firefox

14:12

I use certificates to ensure that i download the real firefox

pilonpl

I use certificates to ensure that i download the real firefox

If you are using edge to download it, you are using the root certificate set that was shipped with windows/edge by microsoft

Yes

14:13

So i guess

14:14

I just trust Microsoft then lol

You trust microsoft not to slip in there any root certificates that aren't trustworthy

I guess it's similar to bootstrapping

Yep, establishing trust without trusting anyone is impossible

Yeah

14:17

Makes sense

i almost read trust as rust

Ryozuki

i almost read trust as rust

Close one

Learath2

You trust microsoft not to slip in there any root certificates that aren't trustworthy

He also trusts whatever installed bimbows or shipped his iso

Yep. And you trust that the hardware vendors don't have hardware backdoors in there

Learath2

Yep. And you trust that the hardware vendors don't have hardware backdoors in there

But they do!

14:20

Intel management engine cough cough

14:21

No way that im using 1.66ghz pc in 2024 where everything is artifically alowed down

Well you hope that your hentai habits are just not important enough to use a ring -2 exploit to monitor

Learath2

Well you hope that your hentai habits are just not important enough to use a ring -2 exploit to monitor

Well ofc they are important enough to monitor... that they dont get out of control!

14:22

justatest

14:23

Btw sometimes when I read pilon msg I think "what a weirdo" other times i think "damn i remember the times when i was interested in how things work and the world overall" tho its all in the past

I once heard about this interesting idea that everything could have a backdoor that prevents the user from discovering it

14:25

By patching software

14:26

Idk if something like that would be possible irl tho

14:26

Seems a bit impossible ngl

Go read up synopsis of intelME

14:26

and amdPSP

14:26

Basically the only two cpu producers

14:27

Tho afaik nvidia wants into cpus but arm

Arm is the future

14:27

And the past

14:27

And the present

14:27

Phones use arm

While U can save urself from backdoored uefi with coreboot or something else, U cant win against hardware

pilonpl

Phones use arm

Regarding phones was it qualcomm used to send itself a lot of data via plaintext

14:29

U cant have privacy nowdays, U just have to limit it and be unimportant

Overlord

While U can save urself from backdoored uefi with coreboot or something else, U cant win against hardware

my microwave can

Teero

my microwave can

Ur microwave is actuallu a human, exhaling really hard and fast, havent noticed yet have U?!

Overlord

Ur microwave is actuallu a human, exhaling really hard and fast, havent noticed yet have U?!

omagad

14:32

i see it now

14:33

i gotta thank him next time he warms up my hamster

Yes, why else would THEY make microwaves unable to work with open door?! Why it always stop working when I try to peek inside?

14:35

No way im fooled by the bad lcd screen they call window

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14:35

@pilonpl if U go into privacy too hard Ur friends (if U have any) and familly will call U nuts

i would like 1 mechanical house please :D

Overlord

@pilonpl if U go into privacy too hard Ur friends (if U have any) and familly will call U nuts

I know

btw if you record a video you can easily be tracked by the underlying frequencies of the electrics (edited)

It's crazy how people don't care about privacy

14:39

Even when facebook was using the man in the middle approach to spy on people lol

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261210525_Tracking_of_electrical_network_frequency_for_the_purpose_of_forensic_audio_authentication

14:39

so dont ever publish a video of yourself with sound on :D

14:40

or just filter any frequencies below a certain level out :)

@Teero ever get annoyed, when U tell something to people like "U can be tracked by XY doing this" and they call U numb nut, only for later it happening to somone famous or whatever, and when U say it again U get hit by "ofc duh its common knowledge"

14:45

(proper answer to this is "yeah numb nut")

Is anyone of you familiar with Smarthome lights?

we are anti-smarthome in #off-topic

ScReeNy

Is anyone of you familiar with Smarthome lights?

actually yes, they're liability!

i swear i wont allow it calling to china

xDD

they're not smart at all. I tried talking with one and the only thing it did was read quran

14:47

but it spoke 3 languages, so there's that

14:48

also i think around year and half ago I read something about philips smart lights unable to work without internet after update

14:49

im gonna look for it

As i see it there are 2 approaches: 1: add a wifi bulb and also have rgb and dimming control, but the manual lightswitch will need to be always on. 2: ad a wlan adapter to the lightswitch, but i wont have dimming or rgb with that. Is there a way to have both? manual switch working and possible dimming over wifi/app?

why do U even want smart light, U can get entire point 1. with regular remote controlled lights

idc about it being "smart"

14:51

at 1. i would really miss the manual switch not working

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14:51

i use this in my room

yea i had one similar, but u have to have the switch on all the time

14:51

or if its off the bulb is offline

yeah ( tho i just switch it on and dim instantly, as I often dont know where the "ON" button is while in the dark)

14:52

nah U have to have it ON all the time, tho i still use it as regular lightbulb (aka turn it off manually via switch)

14:52

all it does is forget Ur settings next time its on

But isnt there a way to archieve both?

probably yeah

14:53

as in there is

14:54

no wait, something has to constantly power it

14:54

so no? all U're doing is changing remote for app

maybe some solution that bundles switch and bulb idk

https://web.archive.org/web/20220313130054/https://checkmarx.com/blog/smart-bulb-data-exfiltration/

Smart Bulb Offers Light, Color, Music, and Data Exfiltration

Devices that connect wirelessly with your phone must be rigorously tested for potential safety and privacy implications; let's investigate the smart bulb.

14:55

this isnt what i looked for

14:55

but is close enough i guess

I still dont understand why printer drivers need to be at DRIVER level (especially if it goes through TCP)

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15:33

nice

15:33

idk how to use it network wide tho

lol U trust cloudflare?!

yes

15:40

probably better than 8.8.8.8

I use 127.0.0.1 im unhackable

Overlord

lol U trust cloudflare?!

u don't?

Overlord

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15:50

polish people seeing brand name

MilkeeyCat

u don't?

I secretly do a tiny weeny, bit, for a megacorpo, but overall no.

MilkeeyCat

I use 127.0.0.1 im unhackable

lol I just wrote localhost:8080 and im already in!

How to set reaction 1️⃣ with discord bot on disnake by await msg.add_reaction(unicode of emoji)? I found unicode of

- \U0001F51F, but unicode of 1️⃣, 2️⃣ and other numbers too short for unicode - U000FE0F.

i found U+0031 U+20E3

16:18

but afair you can just copy it as a string

16:18

await msg.add_reaction("1️⃣")

oh, really?

try it :D

fellas is this a tee or not?

16:19

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meloƞ

try it :D

Thanks! Works :D

^^

Overlord

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it is tee for sure

Overlord

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thats warpaint

16:21

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weird, guy uses discord, but isnt part of ddnet discord, if i had kog DC i could check there...

16:21

unless he randomly found it on internet and thought "lol cool"

stop stalking people!

16:22

but you could check teeworlds dc

ach like, the REAL ONE?!

16:22

I dont dare

meloƞ

stop stalking people!

it's public information so it's fine

♂S1mple♂

it's public information so it's fine

sadly it's only public, when it's actually common server

Overlord

sadly it's only public, when it's actually common server

it's public if you are in same server with person

yes, just wrote that, it's one of the meaning of word common

not my level of intuition or english

that's why I wrote that

16:26

we have all life to learn stuff, nobody's born with it

16:27

I have no food at home, just alcohol, truly eastern europe

not even like noodles ?

IF i go through the secret stash, I do have 1 jar of pesto, and 1 pack of spaghetti, but if I touch that... then I wont have secret stash anymore

sad times require sad actions

quick question, if sphagetti, was umm "opened" (it had a hole) and stored for like 11 months, is it still good if I dont see any mold and stuff?

yes

16:36

i'm not saying that to kill you

16:36

Emoji like those are not single code points, 1️⃣ is: U+31 = 1 U+FEOF = ◌️ (Variant Selector 16 present in image form) U+20E3 = can't even copy this one, it's "Combining Enclosing Keycap" So it's like 1 image variant of emoji inside keycap shape (edited)

Nik_Hard

How to set reaction 1️⃣ with discord bot on disnake by await msg.add_reaction(unicode of emoji)? I found unicode of

- \U0001F51F, but unicode of 1️⃣, 2️⃣ and other numbers too short for unicode - U000FE0F.

^^

as long as it didnt have any egg in it - its totally safe for consumtion - assuming it's dried

Learath2

Emoji like those are not single code points, 1️⃣ is: U+31 = 1 U+FEOF = ◌️ (Variant Selector 16 present in image form) U+20E3 = can't even copy this one, it's "Combining Enclosing Keycap" So it's like 1 image variant of emoji inside keycap shape (edited)

doesnt unicode just suck

16:36

and utf8

huh unicode is great!

ofc utf16 is even worse

meloƞ

as long as it didnt have any egg in it - its totally safe for consumtion - assuming it's dried

what do u have against me

i never recovered

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meloƞ

huh unicode is great!

i hate that there are multi code point requirements already

16:37

as if u32 isnt already huge

16:37

it also makes everything so complicated

16:38

today when u want to implement text rendering you need a grade in archeology

KEKW

i wish i could argue against that

@Jupstar ✪ stick to ascii, and call everyone who disagrees sore loser, used to work

16:40

on the package it doesnt list egg, but my sphagett... was made in china...

and then there are ppl that read from right to left

16:41

like hussanxd

Overlord

on the package it doesnt list egg, but my sphagett... was made in china...

its safe to eat as long as it's fully dry and never touched water in the time it was stored

Jupstar ✪

and then there are ppl that read from right to left

sense make dont messages ur

@hussainx3 i ❤️ u bro. how hard is it to read right to left compared to left to right?

16:41

last time i asked you, you ignored me

Learath2

Emoji like those are not single code points, 1️⃣ is: U+31 = 1 U+FEOF = ◌️ (Variant Selector 16 present in image form) U+20E3 = can't even copy this one, it's "Combining Enclosing Keycap" So it's like 1 image variant of emoji inside keycap shape (edited)

Wow! Interesting. I just realize, I can copy the symbols with pycharm interface :D 1 ️ ⃣

Jupstar ✪

last time i asked you, you ignored me

he couldnt read what u said

cyberFighter

he couldnt read what u said

click the box to verify you're human - if nothing appear's - im sorry to tell you but you're not real. ⃣

meloƞ

its safe to eat as long as it's fully dry and never touched water in the time it was stored

no way im dying before the trip for 1.4€ sphagett

Overlord

no way im dying before the trip for 1.4€ sphagett

KEKW

And

is confusing to you because it's a part of the supplementary plane, not the same way the others are made

monkaStop

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Jupstar ✪

@hussainx3 i ❤️ u bro. how hard is it to read right to left compared to left to right?

?right to left to compared left to right read to it is hard how .bro u ❤️ i @hussainx3

meloƞ

sad times require sad actions

hi I have only pesto in my secret stash, how do I make food out of rum?

you drink it till you pass out

meloƞ

click the box to verify you're human - if nothing appear's - im sorry to tell you but you're not real. ⃣

thanks for a free white chocolate square

12h of sleep is so much better than food

cyberFighter

thanks for a free white chocolate square

dude i love white chocolate

cant sleep everytime im hungry, (well I would, but today I have to stay awake for later )

white chocolate isnt even chocolate but its still good

16:45

its like how im not a troll but i still get treated like one

16:45

Real

!️⃤

16:46

Does this display fine for any of you?

what is it supposed to look like

It's supposed to be an exclamation mark inside a triangle

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Firefox can kinda render it with the font I have on there but it's messed up in discord for me

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i think thats just discord's own font

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16:48

. !️⃤

in search it doesnt look better justatest

justatest

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16:49

⃤

16:49

ahahha there's so many triangles in first

16:49

⃤!

new ddnet map name leaked

that's it bois, im going shopping.

U+21A9 + U+FE0F is another one to try

16:54

there are lots of combo ones with FE0F

Overlord

that's it bois, im going shopping.

GOOD LUCK!!!!

ok, Im back, got some alcohol! trip successful

17:26

... and food ofc!

17:26

(brot mit salmon!)

@Learath2 what do u see here???? (edited)

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Overlord

ok, Im back, got some alcohol! trip successful

Alcohol is the best medication

17:27

Learath2

Alcohol is the best medication

false

17:27

3 nights ago, I actually missed and instead of water

17:27

drank a mouthful of rum

17:27

and then i had terrible sleep entire night

wheres my twinbop_v2

Mugi-chan✰

@Learath2 what do u see here???? (edited)

actually wanted to reply

17:29

this new mobile gestures are weird

Overlord

and then i had terrible sleep entire night

Why would rum be bad for your sleep?

Learath2

Why would rum be bad for your sleep?

because if U dont drink enough of it, it's actually harder to fall asleep

17:31

I should become construction worker, then I wont have to worry next time if im drunk for job or not, they're the cool kids... (with health issues straight after 45)

Never had that happen to me

@Learath2 maybe You're just better alcoholic than me?

Overlord

@Learath2 maybe You're just better alcoholic than me?

Doubtful. You are slavic, it's in your genes

I have only found out my sad alcoholic class, less than a year ago, before that, I was average every now and then enjoyer

@Learath2 i joined air fryer gang

Pro tip, U still have to add oil to stuff U make in airfryer (like fries)

18:30

But it sure is a great device for lazy cooking, and many great reciepes are out there

Ryozuki

@Learath2 i joined air fryer gang

I don't have space for one. I do have a convection oven which is basically an oversized airfryer anyway

cok onemli bir bilgi

Baran Nashor

cok onemli bir bilgi

gigang türeme değil şimdikilerin atası

Baran Nashor

cok onemli bir bilgi

baran kaç pointe çıktın la en son birkaç k dı

19:52

blocku salan gelişiyor beyler

19:52

13k olmuş adam :DD

oynama sende block

Baran Nashor

oynama sende block

bende oynamıcam artık gelişmeye odaklı tüm noviceleri bitirmeye falan çalışırım

20:09

duo yok o sıkıntı sadece

20:09

dummy ile yapacam

squeeZY

bende oynamıcam artık gelişmeye odaklı tüm noviceleri bitirmeye falan çalışırım

Kendi seviyenden biraz daha zor mapleri oynamaya çalış. Zorlanmadan ilerleyemezsin

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