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Is there a way to couple groups in a map to each other so zoom doesnt break? I don't know if this is a bug or a feature request

texnonik

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texnonik

AssassinTee

Is there a way to couple groups in a map to each other so zoom doesnt break? I don't know if this is a bug or a feature request

What do you mean?

@archimede67 I have a sun, it's getting mirrored in the sea like here:

15:12

And as soon as I zoom out, the mirroring effect breaks:

does the sun have the same parallax values?

15:14

also could you send the map?

no, it must have an other paraY value

15:14

it has the same paraX value tho

15:15

boat_test.map

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does it also break if paraY is smaller than paraX?

if the ocean has paraY = 10, and the sun has paraY = 5, the mirror must have paraY=15

15:16

paraX is the same everywhere, because it needs to aling on the X axis

15:16

well the ocean has paraX = 0, so it follows the player

why does the mirrored sun have to have a higher paraY?

move in the editor and you'll see

I'm doing that rn and I'm not seeing it yet o.o

because of the mirrored motion around the sea, which has Para 10

Patiga

I'm doing that rn and I'm not seeing it yet o.o

move up and down (without zoom)

hm, so the issue you mean is that the sun moves out of the water?

no, if I activate zoom, the mirrored sun changes X axis (edited)

15:23

and it's smaller

and what is the issue with setting the same paraY, or setting the paraX higher than the paraY for both?

you can't set the same ParaY because this is how the mirror effect works? and why should making ParaX higher than ParaY change anything? (edited)

paraX higher than paraY should fix it, because the size of the sun depends on the parallax zoom value, which is the higher of paraX and paraY. to have the same parallax zoom value for both groups, the paraX can simply be bigger than both paraY

Tested this, I even need to set the ocean ParaX value to the same for this to work

15:31

While, thank you first of all, that is very unintuitive behaviour oO

yw :)

15:31

congrats btw, you found one of the first cases where parallax zoom complicates something ^^

it actually breaks it, because the needed ParaX is too high

15:32

Or I need to set ParaY lower everywhere

though I think I need more context: what is the effect that you want to achieve? do you always want both suns to have the same distance from the water surface? because that is not necessarily how reflections work

Patiga

though I think I need more context: what is the effect that you want to achieve? do you always want both suns to have the same distance from the water surface? because that is not necessarily how reflections work

they keep the same distance, the difference (of ParaY) to the ocean must the be the same

15:33

I didn't align them perfectly in the testmap tho

and you need the sun to rise/lower with movement along the y-axis? if that is optional, you could just set paraY to 0

well, that'd be the feature I'd want, cosmically you are right, the ParaY should be extremly close to 0 in reality

15:35

( i am probably the only person who'd like floating point paras)

AssassinTee

( i am probably the only person who'd like floating point paras)

nope, theyll be really useful for the sorts of projects im working on

hm I think this will be impossible to make the suns keep the same distance to the horizon, due to how parallax works (edited)

Patiga

hm I think this will be impossible to make the suns keep the same distance to the horizon, due to how parallax works (edited)

I already did it with bigger ParaX values, but as I said, it's not desired like this

15:42

here it works, but the sun's ParaX value is too big

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if all three groups have positive paraY, my understanding is that it can literally not work