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Between 2024-03-24 00:00:00Z and 2024-03-25 00:00:00Z

justatest

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08:23

linux isos are huge lol

brownbear

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I will tickle your pickle

for a nickle

lil bro, I better not see you yapping again or it's finna be OVER for you

pilonpl

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12:48

wth

Maybe the americans are actually on to something here

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13:10

Either way, I hope premier Xi approves of my life

Learath2

Maybe the americans are actually on to something here

chinese app in a nutshell

13:16

it's an arms race between chinese phone manufactures and app developers. Apps running in backgrounds, phones kill them immediately on entering backgrounds, apps connected to each other, using other app's foreground signal to wake background apps, phones kill the ability to switch apps entirely, etc.

13:17

chinese android os is so strict, it just kills everything - even some foreground services if it is not linked with the current running activity (edited)

I never really use tiktok anyway, will just delet

HUH

we also don't have google push notification services, so apps have to keep themself alive to at least receive messages, and now it is a whitelist system where apps pays other apps to wake them up, and the other apps pays the phone manufactures to whitelist them to keep their app alive and phone manufactures kills these's app's ability to see other apps installed while technically whitelist them, then there was a chinese unipush notification service but it is not open-source not a open standard and seems like apps are using it but it is also hard to tell.

13:21

^ TL;DR it's a whole thing

TsFreddie

HUH

we also don't have google push notification services, so apps have to keep themself alive to at least receive messages, and now it is a whitelist system where apps pays other apps to wake them up, and the other apps pays the phone manufactures to whitelist them to keep their app alive and phone manufactures kills these's app's ability to see other apps installed while technically whitelist them, then there was a chinese unipush notification service but it is not open-source not a open standard and seems like apps are using it but it is also hard to tell.

Huh, I would have thought one of the giants would provide this service instead

nah

QQ or Wechat

everyone wants theirs to be the standard (edited)

13:22

also tencent doesn't make phones so they can't do anything

TsFreddie

everyone wants theirs to be the standard (edited)

But do they offer access to their push api?

some do

13:23

some app has like 5 push notification service registered

13:23

anything less than 5 works on some phones but not others

13:23

Wechat has all 5 registered

I guess it's not awful now that I think about it

13:24

It's nice that not one company controls the entire stream of pushes

QQ has 1, but let wechat receive notification to wake up QQ and the QQ background service itself pull the messages and issue notifications so technically not a push notification

13:24

pepeW

is it really tho

13:25

well i guess it is

13:25

we solved monopoly guys. praise for the chinese

TsFreddie

QQ has 1, but let wechat receive notification to wake up QQ and the QQ background service itself pull the messages and issue notifications so technically not a push notification

This part is nasty. They should just have true push providers even if it's not just one provider

TsFreddie

we solved monopoly guys. praise for the chinese

Premier Xi always knows the best solution to things

they probably just didn't manage to make it work. QQ is too big. it's like 3 applications in one, it's a miracle they can even bundle the whole thing in there

13:27

it probably had like 4 different front-end stack in the app

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feelsbadman

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13:28

I forgot how fast my internet is

13:28

haven't been downloading games lately

twinbop

how can i install a python package globally?

16:52

do i have to create a PKGBUILD?

16:52

why can't i just pip install

I guess i can install my package

17:00

Even tho this method is dangerous

pilonpl

why can't i just pip install

You can

17:01

You just have to create a venv

I want to install globally

17:02

Because its a cli tool basically

17:02

I mean it's just a script actually

17:02

But i do this to learn how to make packages xd

pilonpl

I want to install globally

You can do it for a single user with pipx

Alright

17:02

So

Anyway python packaging sucks so bad

17:03

Python in general does (edited)

Yes

17:03

So if i wanted others to install this package

17:03

What would be the correct way to install it

17:03

For them

17:05

Installing stuff on linux is weird lol

There are at least 4 ways

pilonpl

Installing stuff on linux is weird lol

Python is

Other stuff too

17:06

Because every distro has it's own system

17:06

It's own package manager

https://packaging.python.org/en/latest/ Probably this is where to start for python

Python Packaging User Guide

The Python Packaging User Guide (PyPUG) is a collection of tutorials and guides for packaging Python software.

how to improve in ddent

Peter0x44

https://packaging.python.org/en/latest/ Probably this is where to start for python

Ok so most packages i can just install through pacman either from official repositories or from AUR. Globally installing packages through pip is not recommended and there is a warning (externally managed environment) when trying to do that

17:15

So like why is that not a thing on linux

17:15

But on windows it's entirely possible

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i guess on windows there could be conflicts too?

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/985717921600929872/1221500100220551169

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18:59

@SuperBadger imba skin bratan

20:59

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@Mugi-chan✰ tanks you m8

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