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<ChillerDragon> So teeworlds would be like LEB64? :D

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #8093 Confirm on exit by default

New players sometimes accidentally close the game when adjusting settings for the first time. This is due to the confusion about how to close the UI properly. I understand the icon was changed to a "Power" symbol, but it's not enough to prevent this mistake in my opinion. We should instead supply a default option confirm_on_exit that can be disabled in the UI/console.

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #8094 UI walkthrough for new players

Some games that have complicated UIs give the player a walkthrough of how to use it. My idea at first was to put this in the tutorial, prompting the player to press Escape and Kill to retry, but since it can't be localized properly and don't really need to change the map, I think it should be separate before you start the tutorial. It would need to teach the player how to press Escape to reach those options, and also explain some of the inner options that are most common, like antiping, chang...

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #8095 Swap player/dummy colors, save skin/color presets

This should be fairly simple to implement in DDNet, especially since @sjrc6 has already implemented it as part of TaterClient. Swapping player/dummy skin/color I don't think is in TaterClient though. Where I think this should go in the UI: !image If this is too crowded, we could always repurpose the tee portrait on the left as a dropdown menu for the expression picker on the right, freeing up that space.

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

3d24225 M Morthal - ddnet-maps

chillerdragon: im open to do any tw project after this one

Ewan

https://ewan.horse

good site

it was goated

07:28

or horsed

poggers2

<ChillerDragon> I opend a pr to handle the http code 204 and github assigned me the pull id 204? lmao

08:06

<ChillerDragon> https://github.com/barneygale/quarry/pull/204

Nicer error handling when there is no content by ChillerDragon · Pu...

204 No Content is indicating success https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status/204 The same check already happend in the error callback but that one does not seem to get hit. Now the...

08:07

<ChillerDragon> this is too funny

chillerdragon now you are into minecraft protocol? xd

<ChillerDragon> ye :D

08:11

<ChillerDragon> gotta learn minecraft protocol to bring all the good stuff to ddnet hehe

08:12

<ChillerDragon> tbh i just wanted to play but the tool i depended on for gaming was deprecated so i guess i have to roll my own so im forced to mess with the fakin microsoft shits

08:12

<ChillerDragon> i wish there was a good minecraft clone

08:12

<ChillerDragon> minetest is so ugly

08:12

<ChillerDragon> and craft is so incomplete

08:13

<ChillerDragon> thats all i know xd

bring tw protocol in Minecraft xd

<ChillerDragon> but i think there are like a zillion minecraft clones

08:13

<ChillerDragon> @MilkeeyCat imagine minecraft without cheats xd

08:13

<ChillerDragon> no more speed and teleportation hacks

chillerdragon: write own Minecraft gigachad

gigachad

08:14

Chillercraft

08:16

Id like to create some goody little coop game

<ChillerDragon> I would prefer not to. Sounds time consuming to make it good and maintain it

08:16

<ChillerDragon> @MilkeeyCat then you do it

To play around with protocols and stuff

<ChillerDragon> i just wanna game it

I play mc using Tlauncher xd

<ChillerDragon> so? xd

08:18

<ChillerDragon> @MilkeeyCat why are you not using the teeworlds launcher to play minecraft?

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1710234372.png

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09:06

<ChillerDragon> Prism is the official ddnet approved minecraft launcher

Average Scrumplex W

Wdym average, scrumplex is a Walking W

09:10

simp

simps

09:13

ddnet is the official Prism Launcher approved ddnet client

09:13

sorry melon

angy

htop is the official Prism Launcher approved top program https://github.com/htop-dev/htop/pull/1412

Resolve configuration path by Scrumplex · Pull Request #1412 · htop...

Some configuration systems might link a htop configuration file and we don't really want to replace the symlink but rather its source. This will also allow us to fail in case the source is read...

Scrumplex

htop is the official Prism Launcher approved top program https://github.com/htop-dev/htop/pull/1412

no

09:28

use btop

09:28

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09:28

its one of the few C aproved programs https://github.com/aristocratos/btop

GitHub - aristocratos/btop: A monitor of resources

A monitor of resources. Contribute to aristocratos/btop development by creating an account on GitHub.

09:29

oh its c++

✅

btop never felt practical to me

09:34

like it's cool to look at

09:34

but htop feels more intuitive to actually interact with to me

why do i always forget the command argument order for ln

09:34

is it ln -s target source

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or other

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ln [OPTION]... [-T] TARGET LINK_NAME

ln -s <where should your link point to> <where should it be placed>

i forget it too

tip free space: go clean -modcache

09:35

idk why i have go at all

you can use ln -s with only one parameter too

09:35

that's how i remember

du -sh * | sort -h

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to find stuff

because if you just define the target, it will just create the link in the current dir

09:36

ncdu

09:36

interactive!

Ryozuki

is it ln -s target source

like copy

09:36

I remembered it using that

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09:36

ncdu is great

ok emerging it

and dust if you want a rust replacement for du

yes, I also use ncdu

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that looks non-interactve

yeah it is just a replacement for du

09:38

while ncdu is an interactive replacement

ncdu works with multiple drives right

09:43

man idk why i didnt setup lvm

09:43

im dum

09:43

can u setup lvm after the fact

09:43

transparent disks are so good for expanding

Ryozuki

ncdu works with multiple drives right

it works with multiple mount points. -x to let it stay on one mount

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09:48

makes sense

09:48

.xlcore is ffxiv

09:48

oh wait

09:48

it doesnt find steam library?

probably ni .local?

ah do i need to be at /

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no i got my steam on another drive

Why do you want lvm?

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raid presumably

Learath2

Why do you want lvm?

because the disk i have / is 500gb and its always near full

09:50

while i got the other disks of 2tb near free

09:50

but i have them as mounted folders

09:51

i think with lvm i can have them for / too

zfs! (I heard btrfs can also do great things)

Is your home also in /?

btrfs unstable

Learath2

Is your home also in /?

yea

Ewan

btrfs unstable

is it, still?

i think it has been abandoned

09:51

so, i think so

i could move my home

Ewan

i think it has been abandoned

I don't think it's abandoned

09:52

In 2020, Btrfs was selected as the default file system for Fedora 33 for desktop variants.[36]

09:52

pretty likely not abandoned, if fedora has it as default

Ewan

btrfs unstable

Probably stable enough for home use nowadays

09:53

And yes not abandoned afaik

damn wonder where i heardf that

wasn't btrfs maintainer caught for killing his wife or somewhat?

that's reiserfs

ah makes sense

@Ryozuki zfs (/btrfs) gives you the benefits of lvm plus more stuff

Ryozuki

yea

You can set up lvm after the fact iirc but for your root idk, I would be sweating bullets

yeah

you can convert ext4 to btrfs after-the-fact, I think

yes

09:54

quite reliably

09:54

you can even do it in-place iirc

yes, in-place

my volume has no issues

09:55

been using it for about a year with the winbtrfs driver

09:55

which has awesome interface

well i got my home server with 1tb so ill move my stuff there and reinstall gentoo on zfs

why reinstall

how do u achieve the lvm thing on zfs

kernel

09:55

mobule

no i mean, does zfs have a specific config or smth

Ryozuki

how do u achieve the lvm thing on zfs

you create a zpool that spans multiple disks

Ryozuki

how do u achieve the lvm thing on zfs

It’s builtin, I think they have zpools

ah ok

run some commands create device and register with fstab under the name u give it

09:56

iirc

is zfs speed the same?

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or no noticable change

09:56

i use m2 ssds if that counts

Wasn’t zfs support on linux rather jank btw? Is it good now?

it's like the biggest cloud fs now

Wouldn’t btrfs which is linux native be a better idea?

Ewan

run some commands create device and register with fstab under the name u give it

that's incorrect, setting up zfs has nothing to do with fstab

not zfs

09:57

lvm

Learath2

Wasn’t zfs support on linux rather jank btw? Is it good now?

it's probably more overhead than btrfs. you sometimes have to hold back upgrading kernels because zfs upstream doesn't support them yet

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I don't know btrfs though, so I can't recommend it as the first choice

09:58

because I don't have experience using it

Whenever I’m installing a new distro I go through this process of looking whether zfs is upstream yet, whether btrfs is stable enough yet, whether I’ll use lvm, then I end up just going for ext4 on everything and a split home

zfs will never be upstream, I think

09:59

due to license incompatibility

Yeah probably some license

I think you're missing out on CoW file systems

10:00

it makes backups of live systems possible in a way that's sane to think about

I did use zfs on freebsd back in the day

heinrich5991

it makes backups of live systems possible in a way that's sane to think about

I use the very solid backup strategy of “If I pretend the disks won’t fail they won’t fail” and “Have important stuff on 4-5 disks”

Learath2

I use the very solid backup strategy of “If I pretend the disks won’t fail they won’t fail” and “Have important stuff on 4-5 disks”

I've only had one disk of mine fail me (edited)

10:02

and it didn't even have important data

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(laptop ssd) (edited)

I’ve had 2 die on me, hdd, they were far too old anyway, I’d already mostly replaced them, lost some ooooold homework

actually not true

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the 2/4 teehistorian disks failed without me noticing it

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but you only needed 2/4 to restore it

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(thanks zfs)

hmm

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i prefer smth that i can use latest kernel easily

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im a gentoo user

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10:04

ill probs go with lvm

then you could try btrfs?

I think eeeee used btrfs ever since it was incredibly unstable

btrfs also has built-in lvm, I think

And if Fedora is making it default it ought to be good enough now

ok mayb ill try btrfs

Yes it has builtin lvm and cow and other space age magic

checksumming

10:05

so that you know that the data is actually not corrupt

I'm using f2fs on my laptop Since I think it's supposed to reduce wear It only has 64gb "MMC" storage, it's the worst thing about it

11:26

It would suck if it broke but I wouldn't lose any code, I'm not too scared for it

<ChillerDragon> @Ryozuki btop better stands for bash top axaxax

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<ChillerDragon> lmao it is

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<ChillerDragon> btop is a c++ rewrite of bashtop xD

<ChillerDragon> wowo scrumpli contributing to htop!! thats big flex! Almost coreutils level. I am surprised the htop soy devs use microsoft github. Them not using mailing lists is probably the reason why htop is not preinstalled on any relevant distro axaxaxa

chiller u such a nerd

chillerdragon is back in the mines.

11:57

digging those juicy diamonds

12:03

maybe he lost his bash history in the mines and is looking for that one there.

My biggest "flex" is BusyBox vi And busybox touch Though in both cases people ended up rewriting my patch anyway The one thing I hate about mailing lists is that it is just not easy to search prior discussion, you either have to download an mbox and grep though it (which is still painful), and you have to keep pinging and following up patches, or else they will get lost completely

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It definitely works but I still feel like I'm doing extra work for no reason using it

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Finding rationale for previous changes is hard too

https://github.com/DDNet-Team-Searcher/ddnet_server/actions/runs/8251484628/job/22568632346 anyone knows how to make this thing pass

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The solution was pretty easy, just remove everything related to macOS from build.yml

banhammer

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https://bevyengine.org/news/bevy-foundation/

Bevy Foundation

Bevy is a refreshingly simple data-driven game engine built in Rust. It is free and open-source forever!

im proud to announce that edlang can handle projects with multiple files

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owo

damn you make me want to code a calculator in edlang now

soon when i add prints

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i want to but its more complex xd

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formatting justatest

justatest

justatest

btw the edb new command uses the libgit2 api

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to init the repo

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owo

git methods ? poggers2

poggers2

xPapla

psst

ok

Today I remembered C++ does not have flexible array members either. Why is C++ such a downgrade from C in so many things?

well there are workarounds afair

Ofc there are always workarounds

and tbh im happy C++ handles type safety and memory for you (in the context of an array ig), apart from doing it kind of yourself in C (edited)

meloƞ

git methods ? poggers2

poggers2

it initialized the repo with the project

poggers2

@TsFreddie ddnet-pvp has any config option for disable room settings changes for spectators?

meloƞ

well there are workarounds afair

But the very pretty CSPSCQueue<CLogMessage> I had in mind now has to become typeless because I can't know the length of log messages beforehand, so I'm now forced to either lose type safety or do heap allocations

19:08

All the workarounds I can think of come at some cost

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8096 Support overlapping scroll regions, always allow mouse scrolling

Support scrolling all scroll regions with the mouse wheel also while popup menus are open. Support overlapping scroll regions by always scrolling the top-most hovered scroll region on mouse wheel events. The hot scroll region is now tracked separated by CUi, as tracking the IDs of all UI elements which are contained in scroll regions is not feasible. The separate active state for scroll regions is therefore unnecessary. It's still necessary to disable CListBoxes when popup menus are...

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8096 Support overlapping scroll regions, always allow mouse scrolling

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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #8087 Overlapping scroll regions focuses the region underneath

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github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

f291362 Revert name of enum literal Ui back to UI - Robyt3 ae9a8fe Support overlapping scroll regions, always allow mouse scrolling - Robyt3 e92f5e8 Merge pull request #8096 from Robyt3/UI-ScrollRegion-Popup-Handling - def-

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8090 Fix scroll regions active below popup menus in server browser

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #8097 Console goes out of view when the console hits maximum amount of entries

Console goes out of view and is unable to lock the scroll position at the beginning of console log when the console hits max amount of entries. https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/assets/141338449/3f205b59-d209-40fc-9cf3-f7c1ef1d89e4 I also ran into this segfault when letting the console go out of view and closing the console. I then waited a while before opening the console again, which caused the client to crash. ```

thread #1, name = 'DDNet', stop reason = signal SIGSEGV: address no...

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