DDraceNetwork - showroom

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XD

BlueMeww

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Nehr

Troubled | The Eternal Field

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First teaser for my map

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Also here's the logo in game

50MB map

Teero

50MB map

Pipou wont let that happen, xD im sure the map its like less than 2mb

QuiX

Pipou wont let that happen, xD im sure the map its like less than 2mb

I keep optimizing it and it's currently 4700Ko (edited)

nice

Pipou

I keep optimizing it and it's currently 4700Ko (edited)

i was about to mention but u edit xDDD

14:03

4kb imagine

14:04

I'm not done adding everything

Ko is french for KB

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It might reach 6000

i wanna play that map so much

Pipou

It might reach 6000

i heard the limit is 8mb but dont trust it xD they went rage mode for maps with 2.5mb

14:06

but u can prob optimize it im surely

I keep compressing everything though xD

@Pipou btw nice references

my computer when i play the map with design

14:07

xD

My only fear right now, is the 64 image limit

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idk how optimizations work with the mapres, but cant u merge most elements in 1?

I'm merging everything together trying to save some space

ah

14:08

xD

I can for quads, not for tilesets

QuiX

i heard the limit is 8mb but dont trust it xD they went rage mode for maps with 2.5mb

There is no hard limit, make it as small as possible, as large as necessary

14:12

From server perspective I mostly care about the layers being small, graphics don't matter. Clients could go out of memory though

When you say "layers being small" what exactly you mean? the layers from the editor? like group & layers? (edited)

I noticed it myself when mapping

14:17

I tried 20 1300² layers and 20 200² layers (with tiles on the border to fill + clipping for the later) and it was a lot smoother and was lighter

14:18

The infinite fill doesn't affect performances (and weight of the map)?

yes

Ok perfect, just as I thought

14:19

@heinrich5991 Does it change anything if a 1300² layer is empty or full in matters of performances?

In terms of rendering, it does nothin, but for memory... eh

Let's say I have a 1300² tile layer with a few doodads a bit everywhere, is it better to keep it that way or create multiple small 100² layers for each part I want to design (edited)

more objects require more heavy load on rendering

14:22

but larger objects do intend to make your cpu load way higher...

helo

somewhere inbetween, where you have divided quads but not large enough to not fit screen

Wilson

helo

hi

Pipou

@heinrich5991 Does it change anything if a 1300² layer is empty or full in matters of performances?

not sure about that, we'd have to ask @Jupstar ✪ or @Patiga maybe. from a map size perspective, 100² layers are preferable

Hm ok I will then

I would also suggest like 500² size from experience

14:24

at maximum

14:24

any higher is very questionable

Pipou

@heinrich5991 Does it change anything if a 1300² layer is empty or full in matters of performances?

this should make a big difference, the renderer doesn't rly care about layers with only a few tiles afaik

so smaller layers is better?

14:29

or fewer?

That was my next question

are the smaller layers the exact same layer, only split up?

14:30

or do they cover less space in total compared to the bigger layer?

It's either I have let's say 10x1300² tile layers, or 10x10x200² tile layers (to "clip" each area with doodads associated to them). Is it better to have 1 big tile layer or many more small tile layers? (edited)

I'm pretty sure that the smaller layers are better

they cover 1/17 of the area

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14:32

the smaller ones

Ok, I was just wondering if empty spaces mattered for performances

14:33

I know what to do now

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14:33

I'm excited for the map, glgl :D

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@heinrich5991 That's why I asked for groups for groups

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14:35

Quite messy otherwise

heinrich5991

so smaller layers is better?

smaller

14:55

at least smaller, than your resolution in proof

super tee has no fear of death (old screenshot)

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Blade

super tee has no fear of death (old screenshot)

Gangster

ilaK

Gangster

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xdddddd

almost 600 minutes without any break. only toilet. and im still going

17:06

think i opened the game at 6am

Blade

almost 600 minutes without any break. only toilet. and im still going

i think we had discussed this at an earlier time already. thanks for reminding me

@Blade perma afk

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@heinrich5991 @Patiga @Cellegen I tried to change the layers (it was painful) despite the number of layers I added (it increased the file size lightly), the memory use of my client dropped from 1.5Gb to 0.8Gb (edited)