DDraceNetwork - developer

it does look like discord lol

01:19

doesn't look or feel as good as chat.zillyhuhn.com or weechat but for matrix its kinda okay

01:21

lets hope they also publish a useful ios client

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test

01:21

woah codesnippets work

01:22

but you can not autocomplete @ pings gg useless

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also idk how to reply here

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01:24

uff

01:25

they are at 300 commits so they did not manage to add enough bugs yet xd

01:25

give them a bit more time to finish implementing all the base features and it will probably be ever buggier and slower than it is now

<ChillerDragon> yo @Scrumplex the proxy man. Do you use multiple git remotes for the same repo? I would like to just git push to one repo on my vps or something. And it should then propagate/backup that commit to repos on gitlab/github and whatever cloud service i might add.

01:27

<ChillerDragon> You got any clean solution for that?

@Scrumplex

<ChillerDragon> ty

<ChillerDragon> I am having a hard time debugging my github ci. Its not ddnet code i am testing its ruby code and i am testing it with a ddnet client and ddnet server. It all works fine locally. But the server tests only run once in the CI.

05:52

<ChillerDragon> The first server test passes and then no server test passes after that. So the first one must bring the runner in a bad state but i have no idea what that bad state could be.

05:53

<ChillerDragon> The state is good enough that client tests still pass after that. But my ruby server fails to get any connections from a ddnet client.

05:54

<ChillerDragon> I tried debugging with tcpdump but even tcpdump gets so confused after the first run that it produces an empty pcap file. Which works just fine the first time its run.

<ChillerDragon> What is there in linux that can go bad? Blocked ports? Something in the filesystem?

Learath2

Yes? V8 is an insanely commonly used js engine written by google, with jit, outperforming it is actually impressive

The benchmarks don't back that up anyway

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> yo @Scrumplex the proxy man. Do you use multiple git remotes for the same repo? I would like to just git push to one repo on my vps or something. And it should then propagate/backup that commit to repos on gitlab/github and whatever cloud service i might add.

Forgejo can mirror your repos for you

07:03

ChillerDragon

<ChillerDragon> @Scrumplex but then i have to selfhost that and it only mirrors to it self? I would not cound "on my vps" a backup.

08:39

<ChillerDragon> count*

08:39

<ChillerDragon> or can it also auto distribute it to other destinations?

yup

<ChillerDragon> ah nice

<ChillerDragon> hmkay but selfhosting that still sounds more complexity than selfhosting the 10 lines of bash to do it my self

Looks like it failed recently lol

<ChillerDragon> F

yup my GH Token just expired recently

08:41

I guess I just tactically ignored the email

<ChillerDragon> ye sounds realistic

tbf i get a lot of emails from GitHub regarding token expirations so i get why xD

08:43

But I think Forgejo might work for you

08:43

It's very simple to host too

08:43

NixOS users when they services.forgejo.enable = true;

<ChillerDragon> axax nix mentioned

Scrumplex

NixOS users when they services.forgejo.enable = true;

def-

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

efd35ee Add Lem0n as moderator - def-

GitHub

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@BaumWolle @Draggory i was so scared for a second

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i wish my vscode was as easy to navigate as this: https://ddnet.org/codebrowser/DDNet/game/server/entities/character.cpp.html

რილია

i wish my vscode was as easy to navigate as this: https://ddnet.org/codebrowser/DDNet/game/server/entities/character.cpp.html

what can this tool do, what vscode can't for you?

Jupstar ✪

what can this tool do, what vscode can't for you?

i navigate around in vs code with ctrl+shift+f and search

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for some reasons i couldn't get it working with ctrl + right mouse click, and also autocompilation not working as good

რილია

i navigate around in vs code with ctrl+shift+f and search

u can use ctrl + p to search for files

recommended extention for workspace is installed and all

Jupstar ✪

u can use ctrl + p to search for files

i do

რილია

recommended extention for workspace is installed and all

mhh also clangd etc?

Jupstar ✪

mhh also clangd etc?

everything

17:29

but i don't have problems tho, i even made my own mod so far (skyblock), just seeing extra things everytime i search for something

(edited)

17:29

and even made me smarter at searching

https://blog.plover.com/math/logic/annoying-boxes-solution.html

The Universe of Discourse : The annoying boxes puzzle: solution

From the highly eclectic blog of Mark Dominus

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https://graydon2.dreamwidth.org/218040.html

17:41

UTF-16 or UCS-2 support anywhere outside windows API compatibility routines

not true anymore

First time ever I have this error when opening file explorer lmao

Abort

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abort the failure

Crazy

hi, what is fifo and how can I use it for my ddnet server?

Ryozuki

@Chairn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CSeY10zbqo

well, i kinda agree on the first part, not sure about the second part with the full rewrite stuff

18:10

I guess it really depends on what you trying to achieve

TeeTrice

hi, what is fifo and how can I use it for my ddnet server?

Fifo is a way of sending input to the server console through a file. You can use it with sv_input_fifo server-input.fifo, and then you can write stuff to the file and it will be ran by the server, echo "broadcast test!" > server-input.fifo.

oh nice, and where is it located?

18:23

data/ ?

TeeTrice

oh nice, and where is it located?

The server-input.fifo file? It will be in the same directory as where you started the server, but otherwise you can specify an absolute file path, e.g. /home/myuser/server-input.fifo instead.

wrong chat

18:32

furo

The server-input.fifo file? It will be in the same directory as where you started the server, but otherwise you can specify an absolute file path, e.g. /home/myuser/server-input.fifo instead.

Assuming you are using Unix. On Windows, FIFO isn't a file but specifies the name of a named pipe.

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Robyt3

Assuming you are using Unix. On Windows, FIFO isn't a file but specifies the name of a named pipe.

as my teacher once said, everything is file pepew

18:52

but thaat was linux

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8000 Add has_finishes attribute to community info

Add mandatory Boolean attribute has_finishes to every community info, which specifies whether finishes can be shown for the community, regardless of whether any finishes are currently available for the player. The community info must be adjusted when/before merging this, by adding the attribute has_finishes to every community object, with the value true for DDNet and false for all other communities. Closes #7957.

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided ...

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Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7970 Adding flag so server can cleanly disable client entity textures

wazzup ddnetz

furo

Fifo is a way of sending input to the server console through a file. You can use it with sv_input_fifo server-input.fifo, and then you can write stuff to the file and it will be ran by the server, echo "broadcast test!" > server-input.fifo.

After playing around with fifo Files (or rather pipes) i found Out how horrible IT IS to handle them on windows

@meloƞ wazzup bro

Wazzup jupstitititi

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abort the failure

- Bro, I can't call this function - Abort - Ok all nice (edited)

Mʎɹ シ

- Bro, I can't call this function - Abort - Ok all nice (edited)

that's what i call error handling

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fight fire with fire

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abort errors

meloƞ

Wazzup jupstitititi

heinrich5991

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8000 Add has_finishes attribute to community info

20:11

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

386b00f Add has_finishes attribute to community info - Robyt3 9858d4e Merge pull request #8000 from Robyt3/Serverbrowser-Has-Finishes-Fix - heinrich5991

20:11

heinrich5991

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7957 Indicate map finish disappears after disabling it and refreshing.

20:12

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8001 Fix incorrect variable used in Android-specific code

The function curl_easy_setopt expects a CURL *, but pHandle is a void *.

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with ...

@Robyt3 u work on android port?

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@Robyt3 u work on android port?

What system do I even need to build Android? justatest

https://twitter.com/SteamDB/status/1759711704739377334

SteamDB (@SteamDB) on X

The Steam Audio SDK and all included plugins are now available under an Apache-2.0 license. https://t.co/NQqWw6l9Cm

Robyt3

What system do I even need to build Android? justatest

most scripts are written for bash

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-audio/releases

Releases · ValveSoftware/steam-audio

Steam Audio. Contribute to ValveSoftware/steam-audio development by creating an account on GitHub.

but other than that maybe windows could work xd

wen steam audio for ddnet

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https://valvesoftware.github.io/steam-audio/

Steam Audio

what is steam audio?

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ah, the last link answers it. some spatial audio

audio library for vr i think

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Immersive Audio Solutions For games and VR

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ok for both

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totally unbiased Valve employee

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I like it

dobrykafe

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #8002 Show countdown message in player/tee settings for sv_info_change_delay

Not sure about calling it a "cooldown". !countdown closes #7982

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[x] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[...

https://twitter.com/tsoding/status/1759775785173369017

Тsфdiиg (@tsoding) on X

Apparently people really liked this clip from my latest video where I compared LLVM and React. So I'm posting it here too. Enjoy!

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lmao

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"llvm is the react of compilers minus the toxic community"

Ryozuki

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I wonder what kind of hack they employ

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The way sound travels around is very similar to light, that's expensive

i present u unholyness

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I had to look at that twice to see what's wrong

I didn't see it until @Peter0x44's comment

nice bio

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just need to add agpl

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

aa7a614 Fix incorrect variable used in Android-specific code - Robyt3 87f3740 Merge pull request #8001 from Robyt3/Http-Android-Fix - heinrich5991

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heinrich5991

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #8001 Fix incorrect variable used in Android-specific code

Ryozuki

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Haha sounds like windows xp media player

Ryozuki

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Delete this

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Tf where is the src?

twitter

Ah ok

https://twitter.com/RyanEls4/status/1759799278862520587

Ryan Els (@RyanEls4) on X

Something feels a little off

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lmao

@Teero #off-topic if at all

mb

Ryozuki

just need to add agpl

Not enough characters lol

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Anyway the gcc developers are nice people so I don't mind repping

@heinrich5991 @Learath2 what u think of this quote

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great minds discuss semantics, average minds discuss syntax and small minds discuss syntax of comments

I agree that focusing on syntax is not very useful, maybe even superficial

Ryozuki

@heinrich5991 @Learath2 what u think of this quote

No, pyson syntax is from hell

xd

oh my fucking god

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i just finalized my NixOS + hyprland setup and built ddnet for the first time

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my GPU gets pretty loud and i wonder what it is ... - cl_showfps 1 displays it to me

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17K fps

Ryozuki

great minds discuss semantics, average minds discuss syntax and small minds discuss syntax of comments

It's comparing apples to oranges. Each discussion has a time and place. Though their importance is I guess in the right order

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If you and I were making a programming language discussion of syntax would be a fairly important one

@Ryozuki did you use sqlx for runtime insert/update queries with structs that have optional fields? i don't see the way without writing good ol derive macro with use of QueryBuilder<...>

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(im trying to avoid boilerplate if let Some(...)...)

it was so worth it spending a kidney for my pc

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the entire compiled in ~6 seconds with cmake .. -GNinja && ninja

2

send config

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #8003 Crash related to ghosts when finishing map

Reported by Peter0x44 on Discord:

/usr/include/c++/13.2.1/bits/stl_vector.h:1125: std::vector::reference std::vector::operator[](size_type) [with _Tp = CMenus::CGhostItem; _Alloc = std::allocator; reference = CMenus::CGhostItem&; size_type = long unsigned int]: Assertion '__n size()' failed.

Aborted (core dumped)

just crashed the INSTANT I finished a map

Nouaa

send config

steamaudio is not just for vr

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it's for winning too

meloƞ

the entire compiled in ~6 seconds with cmake .. -GNinja && ninja

ppl still using the nonportable cmake command syntax

what syntax do you like better?

cmake . [-B build -G Ninja] && cmake --build [build] --parallel

i disagree

doesn't make a lot of sense to go that way when cmake is capable of doing it itself imo

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especially when you can use the same syntax across any generator

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using a generator-specific build command defeats a lot of the purpose of having a unified tool like the cmake command

sounds okay to me. you're unlikely to use something differnet than ninja on linux

but why would you prefer it over the portable syntax

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i guess in a super closed environment it’s fine

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but still seems goofy

because you know ninja and don't know cmake very well, for example?

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or because you want to pass ninja-specific options sometimes

you should not be relying on generator specific behavior when using cmake

Ewan

i guess in a super closed environment it’s fine

i dont know if i would describe a shell environment a "super closed environment"

Ewan

you should not be relying on generator specific behavior when using cmake

why not?

but i explicity compile and build my projects using direnv paired with nix-shell's

because it's intended to abstract the core parts of the compilation pipeline

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anything else is a hack

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you shouldn't ever be in a situation where you have to pass a ninja-specific build command when using it with cmake

meloƞ

i dont know if i would describe a shell environment a "super closed environment"

no i mean a system where you only ever use one build tool like ninja

Ewan

you shouldn't ever be in a situation where you have to pass a ninja-specific build command when using it with cmake

how do you print the dependency tree of the ddnet source code using cmake? ^^

sometimes you want to cross compile and you can set CMAKE_MAKE_PROGRAM and use unix makefiles

I don't think your argument makes a lot of sense

heinrich5991

how do you print the dependency tree of the ddnet source code using cmake? ^^

that's not really cmake's intended use

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but you can do it using a cmake file

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most ppl would use git or tree or find or smth

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not the build tool

if you want to use a specific feature of a cmake compilation target ("generator"), then it makes sense to use it

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why would you artificially restrict yourself to the lowest common denominator available through cmake?

because it reinforces good practices when you're using cmake elsewhere

if you personally don't want to learn anything but cmake, that's fine

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but maybe other people want to learn more than cmake

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I, for example

then why would you use cmake if you're just gonna get raw with the build tool anyway

because I can also use it to compile on windows

so then you should use the portable cmake command

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to use the same command to compile on both windows and wherever you're using ninja

I don't agree with your viewpoint at all

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I also compiled ddnet using MSVC natively

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without even touching the cmake command line

sounds like a pain

I like typing ninja when I just want to compile my project really quick without needing to think about whether it's cmake or meson :p

maybe that's fine if you only use ninja

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obviously you can't use ninja to compile a cmake project generated using anything but ninja

I only see @Ewan telling others that they should use the tools the same way that @Ewan does

it's just the way that makes sense

not for me, as I laid out

Ewan

obviously you can't use ninja to compile a cmake project generated using anything but ninja

well thats not the point of using ninja anyway

good night

it's just a newer way of doing things that's not as well known

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it's what the authors would advocate for

you're specifing ninja to explicity use ninja, it defaults to make

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which is a good thing?

i don't think i should feel bad for turning people on to a potentially cleaner way to do something

its not about making you feel bad, you have the general tendency to sound very "do it my way or i dont accept anything you say" anytime you disagree with or have another way of doing something :P (edited)

Ewan

anything else is a hack

not all of cmake's features are even supported by all generators

right

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so sometimes you have to use a hack

it really is not important

yeah

meloƞ

its not about making you feel bad, you have the general tendency to sound very "do it my way or i dont accept anything you say" anytime you disagree with or have another way of doing something :P (edited)

i don't see this tbh

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i did say it was my opinion

Jopsti new fps record?

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