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26/6/11

meloƞ

remember to install the correct mirrors, format the disk properly, select network and audio drivers, select a WM so you dont spend another 30 minutes on setting it up etc

Everything is already formatted

07:38

The efi partion and the root partition

07:38

Because of pop os

07:41

I just need to delete pop os

07:41

And that's it i guess

07:42

I am installing arch in a vm for now

What system is holding vm?

07:43

Is it gentoo? Maybe proxmox

wdym holding vm

What OS is the vm running on

Pilon is running Pop OS atm afaik

No

08:06

Manjaro

A gg

Since i want to nuke pop os

Lol

Manjaro is pretty good imo

08:07

It works

08:07

Mostly

Every distro can be good enough really

Sometimes manjaro decides to lock me out of the system

Except for gentoo

08:07

(because i dont understand it, so its Bad)

My password literally doesn't work sometimes

pilonpl

Sometimes manjaro decides to lock me out of the system

? Like when the PC goes idle ?

Yes

08:08

So there are a few issues i guess

What are you afraid of - Auto Login and remove greeter gigachad

gigachad

gigachad

pilonpl

So there are a few issues i guess

What DE are you using ? (edited)

Cinnamon

meloƞ

What are you afraid of - Auto Login and remove greeter gigachad

gigachad

gigachad

Actually someone could just boot into a live session and change the password

The good old lightdm-slick-greeter

pilonpl

Actually someone could just boot into a live session and change the password

But then you have an unneccessary greeter

i am trying to install arch in a vm

08:38

but

Skill issue?

indeed

yes

how can u mess it up

08:38

u can even use installer script if ur so inclined

i need a bootloader or something

Ewan

u can even use installer script if ur so inclined

i am not a noob

obv u are

08:39

why did u not install grub

08:39

it's in the guide

because its hard

it's very easy

and irl i have grub installed

it's 1 partition and 2 commands

but not in a vm i guess

why would it come with it

What programs is there for running vms on linux?

Ewan

why would it come with it

idk

08:43

its a vm

08:43

i have no idea how vms work

MilkeeyCat

What programs is there for running vms on linux?

virtual box

You give it what it wants and load in the .ISO File - you Open it and use the archinstall Script

08:45

Thats it

MilkeeyCat

What programs is there for running vms on linux?

justatest

08:45

qemu the god of all emulators

08:45

thanks to kvm kernel module which makes virtualization trivial

08:46

u can still use vbox or vmware if u hate urself and hate ur commputer

+++++++

08:46

Qemu with GPU passthrough on top

ya well u need a spare gpu for that

meloƞ

You give it what it wants and load in the .ISO File - you Open it and use the archinstall Script

i didnt want to use the install script

Ewan

ya well u need a spare gpu for that

No

yes

Single GPU Passthrough exists

or you can disable your graphics driver module and blacklist the device

btw i installed grub but it doesn show any boot options

and then give the vm device access w iommu

08:49

but it's hard for 1 gpu

pilonpl

btw i installed grub but it doesn show any boot options

probably because i forgot to actually configure it or something

08:49

lol

08:50

and reading the arch wiki is too much work for me

The only Problem is that you can simutaniously only either use Main or vm with single GPU passthrough, the Setup itself is quite easy If you ask me

pilonpl

and reading the arch wiki is too much work for me

Reading hard

what can i even to from this grub command line

load image

08:52

and exec

08:53

i just chroot in f rom another device tbh

idk how to boot into an iso in virtual box lol

pilonpl

idk how to boot into an iso in virtual box lol

Use qemu, let ewan Help you gigachad

gigachad

08:55

Im Off to Work again

qemu is hard to use

08:55

i tried

Been on the Toilet for 45* Minutes

qemu is easy

08:55

get a frontend like gnome-boxes and it's completely trivial

skibidi toilet

Qemu, virt-manager, virtual Box, they all Work fine

cyberFighter

skibidi toilet

2meitl4meirl

spribb

meloƞ

Qemu, virt-manager, virtual Box, they all Work fine

idk

09:05

i tried to use qemu

09:05

but its just

09:06

weird

09:06

a lot of stuff i dont understand

qemu is easy get a frontend like gnome-boxes and it's completely trivial

interesting

Btw

10:54

Why is the quadratic formula so weird

10:54

I am trying to understand this equation doesn't really feel like it should work (edited)

Image attachment

10:55

What does ∆ even represent

10:55

Why is it b² - 4ac

10:55

How would you even get to this formula

It represents the Change or difference

Sure, i guess

10:56

(b²) - (4ac)

10:56

Difference

, if we have two quantities t1 and t0, the difference between them would be represented as ∆t = t1 - t0

But why does it work xd

Why shouldnt it

Because it's random

10:57

You calculate some random stuff

10:57

And it's somehow the solution (edited)

The difference between to caluclations cant be random, one of the two caluclations itself can

pilonpl

How would you even get to this formula

just look at some video/paper with the demonstration in it. iirc it's quite short

pilonpl

I am trying to understand this equation doesn't really feel like it should work (edited)

Mmmh, whiteboard masturbation pepeW

pepeW

Devinci

just look at some video/paper with the demonstration in it. iirc it's quite short

Wikipedia

11:09

Has the answer

11:09

I guess

11:15

I guess it makes sense

11:16

I like knowing where thing come from so i can invent them on my own when i forget something

pilonpl

I like knowing where thing come from so i can invent them on my own when i forget something

that's the spirit

he probably hasn't seen solution to cubic equations justatest

justatest

queria preguntal uste quien le dio pemiso pa saca foto

btw i installed arch in a vm

15:40

and the internet isnt working lol

15:41

how is connecting to the internet not a part of the installation process

pilonpl

how is connecting to the internet not a part of the installation process

is it rude if i go full arch user? - did you use archinstall or did you configure it yourself

ofc myself

~~then RTFM~~ https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide 1.7

Installation guide

15:58

thats why i recommended the archinstall script, it automatically installs network drivers

it worked in the live enviroment

16:00

because it is preconfigured in the live enviroment

16:00

but not in actual install

pilonpl

how is connecting to the internet not a part of the installation process

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide#Network_configuration did you do this step with the network manager?

yes

if you're using LAN and its not working, your network manager is broken (98/100 times its a faulty installation), if its wifi and its not working, there could be multiple reasons (edited)

its a vm

16:07

so

16:07

there is no such thing as wifi in a vm i think

pilonpl

there is no such thing as wifi in a vm i think

yes there is

16:09

can you quickly give me the output of: journalctl -rbu dhcpcd

wtf

16:12

i want to take a screen shot

16:12

but the inputs go to the vm

16:12

i guess

use snipping tool

Image attachment

16:14

btw

16:14

idk what i am doing

try removing it, even tho i dont know if the command works then, because u is supposed to specify the log of the service i want to see

16:16

try journalctl -rb dhcpcd

Image attachment

16:17

lol

honestly maybe i should just use manjaro

16:18

if it works

16:18

lol

stop distro hopping and stick to a simple one

True, fuck that fancy shmancy shit

considering you seem to be new to this stuff, seriously consider just sticking to ubuntu

16:19

you can have ubuntu look the same way manjaro does within a couple of clicks

i am kind of new

Thanks god gentoo just works :clueless: (edited)

MilkeeyCat

Thanks god gentoo just works :clueless: (edited)

Thank god NixOS just works clueless

clueless

meloƞ

Thank god NixOS just works clueless

clueless

Ay, look whose server it is

16:20

poggers2

i want this

Image attachment

16:21

on pop os there is no such option for some reason

is that the reason you're distro hopping

16:21

oh my sweet summer child

+ the sensitivity is too high

16:21

on the lowest setting

pilonpl

i want this

Use vim and ud never need mouse gigachad

gigachad

meloƞ

is that the reason you're distro hopping

no, i just hate setting up new stuff

pilonpl

no, i just hate setting up new stuff

then linux is not the way

and i can just use manjaro since it is already installed

pilonpl

i want this

this is just so annoying

16:24

on manjaro just work

16:24

but on pop os i dont know how to change the sensitivity even lower

meloƞ

then linux is not the way

neither is windows lol

windows does what you want out of the box

16:25

thats what windows is made for

16:26

linux is for tinkering, exploring, changes, and the configuration all the way down to your kernel

what i mean by "setting up" is installing software

16:26

and logging in all the accounts

16:26

and stuff

Write a script

its just easier to boot into manjaro xd

create .dotfiles

16:27

or a script, as milkeey said

.dotfiles?

ah gg

.files

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Dotfiles

hidden files?

16:28

i know about those

you seemed confused about them, thats why i sent the link

can i just copy my /home

thats... not the way to go

16:31

https://github.com/isti115/dotfiles these are some dotfiles for example, just look at a few of those to get an understanding

GitHub - Isti115/dotfiles

Contribute to Isti115/dotfiles development by creating an account on GitHub.

anyways, one issue i found on pop os is that packages are outdated

16:33

at least inkscape

thats not a pop os issue, thats the package manager's issue

yeah

16:34

so basically it was 2 years old i think

if you care about the newest stuff of them all, use Nix/AUR i guess

16:35

these are the most updated and well maintained package manager's out there

i'd love to install arch

16:36

but it just requires a bit of time

16:37

to understand

pilonpl

i'd love to install arch

to use AUR, you dont need Arch

16:37

https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository

Arch User Repository

i did use AUR

16:37

on manjaro

16:37

to install roblox

16:38

and it broke

16:38

so i used flatpak instead (edited)

so when wine

what

when wine

16:41

https://wiki.winehq.org/Wine_User%27s_Guide

Wine User's Guide

wine

16:41

what

16:42

roblox doesnt work with wine

16:43

actually running games on linux is really easy

16:43

i wasnt expecting that

16:43

when i first installed linux

16:44

pretty much everything just works

16:44

at least the games i play

16:44

like ddnet

16:44

which has a native version

16:44

so

16:44

yeah

16:45

but subnautica works

16:45

through proton

https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=9392

WineHQ - Roblox

Open Source Software for running Windows applications on other operating systems.

16:46

seems to be functional under wine

16:46

with a workaround using vinegar as bootstrapper

idk

16:48

i guess i can just install manjaro on my better ssd since it works so well lol

16:48

for me at least

16:50

arch would be great tho

16:50

i have to learn how to use it properly

btw

17:02

its bad for ssds to be full

17:02

from what i've heard

17:03

but if i have 2 partitions

17:03

does it matter how full one of the partitions is?

17:04

i guess ssds balance writes

17:04

but how does that work

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/210492-extremetech-explains-how-do-ssds-work

How Do SSDs Work? The Inner Workings, Explained

Ever wondered how SSDs read and write data, or what determines their performance? Our tech explainer has you covered.

so i guess partitions dont matter

17:21

it seems like for an ssd data is data

pilonpl

through proton

proton is valve wine for steam

Yeah

18:22

Sure

18:22

Valve cares about linux

18:22

Because steam deck i guess

because they dont want to depend on microsoft

18:25

because windows is owned by a company

18:25

that also makes games

18:25

is in the game market

18:25

it makes so much sense to target linux

18:25

any smart company would do it

18:25

instead of depending on a OS made by a corpo they dont control

meloƞ

https://github.com/isti115/dotfiles these are some dotfiles for example, just look at a few of those to get an understanding

is there a command to apply all this stuff? (edited)

se viene boooooocaaaaa

20:25

boca boca boca bocaaaaaa

20:26

19:00 hora argentina frente a sarmientooo

20:26

vamo bocaaaaa :v

anyone wanna play xpanic?

22:12

im in the server if anyone wants to join

@cyberFighter

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c.o.f.f.ee

anyone wanna play xpanic?

Holy hell

Ryozuki

instead of depending on a OS made by a corpo they dont control

not really for most people considering the vast majority of people run windows

23:40

maybe it makes more sense to target linux if you also make hardware that runs linux

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