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Is there a way to kick someone that's using a macro to join and leave the server very quickly thousands of times?

00:32

I don't think there's a text command to votekick and it's impossible to click on his name and then on kick using the votelist (edited)

00:36

This is a problem

i already created a ticket about it

00:36

but now i believe it doesn't matter because he left

Suado Cowboy

but now i believe it doesn't matter because he left

It doesn't but maybe the devs add a command for kicking someone instead of having to double-click

00:43

problem is if they keep changing their names and we cant text votekick (edited)

00:43

maybe a dummy creation cooldown

Vegeance (coms open)

It doesn't but maybe the devs add a command for kicking someone instead of having to double-click

It's worse than you think, if you double click on his name in the votekick menu it says the id is invalid. This is probably because of the speed he's quitting

00:46

there could be a joining cooldown like fng servers you know? I remember leaving a fng server once accidentally and trying to come back but there was a 3 min cooldown or something like that

Vegeance (coms open)

It doesn't but maybe the devs add a command for kicking someone instead of having to double-click

It is possible (kinda). You can do callvote kick id "reason for kick", replace id with the id of the player you wish to call a vote kick on. Just watch out, so you don't try to kick the wrong player :D

furo

It is possible (kinda). You can do callvote kick id "reason for kick", replace id with the id of the player you wish to call a vote kick on. Just watch out, so you don't try to kick the wrong player :D

Yeah that can be used for now but if he starts changing his name everytime he joins the server owners will prob need to implement some kind of cooldown for creating a dummy or smth idunno.

00:56

In a open source application with multiple clients everything seems 200x more complicated

Vegeance (coms open)

Yeah that can be used for now but if he starts changing his name everytime he joins the server owners will prob need to implement some kind of cooldown for creating a dummy or smth idunno.

There isn't a cooldown, but there is a rate-limit you will hit if you do too many connections in a short period of time. But I guess it's quite lenient. You can try it yourself, and you'll be temporarily stopped from being able to join with the reason Too many connections in a short time.

Vegeance (coms open)

In a open source application with multiple clients everything seems 200x more complicated

What do you mean?

furo

What do you mean?

Isn't tee worlds open-source and there's multiple clients to it? I thought that this was the reason why DDOS is still a thing in Brazillian servers. They said it would be to expensive to fix it. And people can still use their own clients even with some sort of anti-cheat.

furo

There isn't a cooldown, but there is a rate-limit you will hit if you do too many connections in a short period of time. But I guess it's quite lenient. You can try it yourself, and you'll be temporarily stopped from being able to join with the reason Too many connections in a short time.

I guess a cooldown could work best, it wouldn't bother players to have a 3 - 5 sec delay when creating a dummy or joining a server. (edited)

Vegeance (coms open)

In a open source application with multiple clients everything seems 200x more complicated

It's easy to fix it

Ban the IP
Ban the IP range
Ban the whole ASN range (spoofing connections)

01:58

All depends on the case

Vegeance (coms open)

Isn't tee worlds open-source and there's multiple clients to it? I thought that this was the reason why DDOS is still a thing in Brazillian servers. They said it would be to expensive to fix it. And people can still use their own clients even with some sort of anti-cheat.

There are several people who can give ddos, in addition to well-known names (like PV), practically anyone can give ddos if they know the site

I want to report people on FNG, I don't know what the FNG server is but there are 3 people on the USA FNG server being racist and kicking when someone comes in, they make racist comments.

sceinders

I want to report people on FNG, I don't know what the FNG server is but there are 3 people on the USA FNG server being racist and kicking when someone comes in, they make racist comments.

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74.91.124.108:8338

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74.91.124.108:8338

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03:38

74.91.124.108:8337

74.91.124.108:8337 is not a DDNet or KoG server.

74.91.124.108:8339

74.91.124.108:8339 is not a DDNet or KoG server.

74.91.124.108:8339

74.91.124.108:8339 is not a DDNet or KoG server.

Yek-H

It's easy to fix it

Ban the IP
Ban the IP range
Ban the whole ASN range (spoofing connections)

Yek-H

It's easy to fix it

Ban the IP
Ban the IP range
Ban the whole ASN range (spoofing connections)

That doesnt stop the ddos

Avolicious

That doesnt stop the ddos

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/1200598900185251850 -> I mean this

Avolicious

That doesnt stop the ddos

Also if you block the IP of the attacker or hosting and your VPS will not send outgoing traffic (if your vps has inbound/outbound limits per month)

english

The only important note to discuss is how to filter out ddos attacks, as well as what protocols to use to prevent server overload

10:45

After that we can discuss how to filter out ips according to server stress

10:45

(excluding false-positives)

Yek-H

Also if you block the IP of the attacker or hosting and your VPS will not send outgoing traffic (if your vps has inbound/outbound limits per month)

Yeah, but ddos still hits & affects the server

Cellegen

The only important note to discuss is how to filter out ddos attacks, as well as what protocols to use to prevent server overload

You cant filter out without paying a lot of money

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11:20

You need hardware

Vegeance (coms open)

I don't think there's a text command to votekick and it's impossible to click on his name and then on kick using the votelist (edited)

There is the command: callvote kick ID reason Before type cl_show_ids 1 to see id of players. When he connect, fast check his id in tab menu, if no one connect or disconnect before him, his id always be the same. If you see 21: player_name, type in console callvote kick 21 rejoin_spam and vote for him will start.

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Avolicious

You need hardware

Isn't there any service that allows you to borrow hardware power as needed to increase protection, like a host would?

Vegeance (coms open)

Isn't there any service that allows you to borrow hardware power as needed to increase protection, like a host would?

There is, Cloudflare Spectrum, Google Cloud Armor, Link11, Voxility, path.net and so on... but we are talking about a 2d open source game with no big compny behind

13:34

Teeworlds is made by volunteers, not a multi billion dollar company. So paying for ddos protection is always very expensive, besides there are some people like @Davide who try to fight against with giving us the solution for free

Avolicious

There is, Cloudflare Spectrum, Google Cloud Armor, Link11, Voxility, path.net and so on... but we are talking about a 2d open source game with no big compny behind

cloudflare spectrum was 5000€/month for one location last time I checked. not sure about the others

heinrich5991

cloudflare spectrum was 5000€/month for one location last time I checked. not sure about the others

3k a month but 4k setup fee for one location

can you link the pricing page? I couldn't find it last time I wanted to check

I dont know, I have asked cloudflare consultants (edited)

13:37

You need the Enterprise plan for custom tcp/udp protocols

13:37

thats why its so expensive

tbh i am not even sure if cloudflare with quic works this good

13:52

I guess cloudflare will do a lot of stuff like shifting traffic around

One of my customers does have Cloudflare MT, they just close or ratelimit the port when attacked on UDP, they are not good at custom UDP filters

Davide

One of my customers does have Cloudflare MT, they just close or ratelimit the port when attacked on UDP, they are not good at custom UDP filters

But Spectrum is different than Magic Transit, no?

I'm not sure, but as I can see they provide the same protection on Transit & Spectrum, but Spectrum uses CF IPs ranges

14:02

Maybe they differ in something else, but I have no idea, I don't know anyone with Spectrum

Penis

14:27

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Penis

bot user spotted

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14:50

kick @zhn Vote: chat bot (edited)

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Vegeance (coms open)

Is there a way to kick someone that's using a macro to join and leave the server very quickly thousands of times?

If it's your own server, you can prevent people from spam joining with sv_connlimit and sv_connlimit_time.

murpi

If it's your own server, you can prevent people from spam joining with sv_connlimit and sv_connlimit_time.

As you may have seen I was playing in multieasymap with lots of people, rarely someone's going to take the effort to grief a private server. (edited)

16:42

But thanks for the advice

17:00

its not workng why ? (latest server) (edited)

xkaz

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Do you have sv_test_cmds 1 enabled? otherwise you won't be able to use test commands.

furo

Do you have sv_test_cmds 1 enabled? otherwise you won't be able to use test commands.

omg ty i am not remember this code line

Well, it should probably print an error message if you try to use it without enabling sv_test_cmds.

17:37

what is this

17:37

64 * spec -_-

spec

@GlobQ Sorry for my stupid friends

dobmax271

@GlobQ Sorry for my stupid friends

No worries

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@Robyt3

19:09

my friend: (edited)

19:09

my:

19:09

2024-01-27 22:02:42 I client: got pong from current server, latency=62ms 2024-01-27 22:02:43 I chat: *** You're already logged in. 2024-01-27 22:02:44 I chat: dqepb: я такого не писал 2024-01-27 22:02:49 I chat: balochka: ты опять написал 2024-01-27 22:02:53 I chat: dqepb: ебать 2024-01-27 22:02:55 I chat: dqepb: я даже этого не вижу 2024-01-27 22:03:01 I demo_recorder: Stopped recording 2024-01-27 22:03:09 I chat: balochka: я в дс прислал 2024-01-27 22:03:10 I chat: dqepb: хуя

19:09

what?

Looks like bug on the KoG server, you can report it over there if you want

19:15

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