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Between 2024-01-23 00:00:00Z and 2024-01-24 00:00:00Z

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7851 allow the console log to recognize and handle URLs.

Arch Linux package testing tool 'namcap' reports that DDNet is built without shadow stack flag:

Checking ddnet-18.0-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
ddnet W: ELF file ('usr/bin/DDNet') lacks GNU_PROPERTY_X86_FEATURE_1_SHSTK.
ddnet W: ELF file ('usr/bin/DDNet-Server') lacks GNU_PROPERTY_X86_FEATURE_1_SHSTK.

I've read about it (specially this GNU Lib C mail thread), but I'm still not sure if that's a flag DDNet should have set on build time. Does anyone know?

02:28

This check was recently added to namcap, reason why it is showing now and not before.

shouldn’t that flag be enabled before the pkgbuild is even involved?

03:26

like fortify source

03:26

ddnet pkg shouldn’t have to involve itself

03:26

cc @Ryozuki

Hi Ewan. There are flags set by default in Arch, but -z shstk to linker is not one of them.

I see

These are the currently set: https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/pacman/-/blob/main/makepkg.conf?ref_type=heads#L45

makepkg.conf · main · Arch Linux / Packaging / Packages / pacman · ...

A library-based package manager with dependency support packages: pacman

i would look up ldflags for common pkgs

03:30

see if they do it

Since it is a new check of the namcap tool, It might not have many. Hard to search. But I'll take a look around. Thanks

someone else here is arch enthusiast but i cant remember who

03:32

theyre all asleep anyway though

deen, I think.

i think i was thinking of heinrich, would be surprised if deen was cuz iirc all ddnet servers run debian if he gets to choose host os

03:34

could just be for the sake of pkg availability tho

angular

Did anyone try to add ImGui to ddnet? Cuz default GUI sucks

I'll try soon xd

gross

04:47

not worth

04:47

imgui sucks

04:48

if ddnet should have a new ui it should be designed to work in retained mode and have a proper layout system instead of splitting rects and stuff

04:48

but it won't happen

04:48

don't see why you would want imgui in the game

If there were a good amount of opinions or just no bad opinions spreaded to the devs for the beta branch regarding the UI changes, then releasing it shouldn't impact negativity

05:29

Unless the whole community doesn't care about playtesting / reporting their opinion on changes. This happens 80% of the time and those people are totally clueless on what was happening to the UI. Lets hope that now it has brought good attention, you guys can identify what needs change and what can be kept

now it has brought good attention

talking about it in the discord is not good attention

05:30

make an issue if you think it's a big deal

Still most of the community is here, including variant other communities

yes but it gets forgotten within hours

Idk, some are stuck in convos about it

make an issue on gh as to avoid repeating yourself 100 times

05:31

seen: accounts issue

05:31

talked about on at least 10 different occasions in this discord. lots of cool insight from all parties. unfortunately nobody remembers what they said because it's miles of scrolling!

But, im not complaining or highlighting an issue here. Im here to see if anything I mentioned is true or not

05:35

rather than me highlighting these issues myself cuz a developer has actually pushed aside the problem, causing discontent amongst people who care, why not highlight yourself this problem to the devs in an enviroment where only devs can see and let them make polls about the changes regarding UI. Aside from the fact that UI is a fundamental part of a game experience, changing an everyday-interactive panel needs more communication towards players

05:37

More, than just pushing it to the beta branch and let it sit for a week*, waiting for responses. It needs more and more attention, but one man cannot do it, whos job aint to spread this awareness. (edited)

05:37

(ok enough ranting owo

owo

)

gwaan gwaan gwaan

<ChillerDragon> @Cellegen imo every player that cares and want to shape the game and influence ui changes should follow what is happening on github. Otherwise you would need someone who feels responsible to repost stuff from discord somewhere else

still most people argue about it on discord, which is the annoying part

<ChillerDragon> github has a clean userinterface. All the text is plain english and very descriptive. Ui changes are full of screenshots. Everyone that cares can follow. If you think people miss it then you can do it your self and pick all interesting parts and repost them on discord

06:47

<ChillerDragon> then you can copy back the replies on discord as a github comment and now you have become the human bridge between github and discord :D

06:47

<ChillerDragon> If you want to be heard reply on github.

06:48

<ChillerDragon> If you want the latest news activate github notifications.

as I mentioned, not my job to repost or spread what has been posted already. I'm only bringing awareness that these types of changes need to be brought to the people more interactively, as in using a poll where different kinds of questions need to be collected to know if you guys head to the right direction designing good UI

<ChillerDragon> Its not a locked up place. Nobody is excluded. (except chinese axaxax)

poor chinese

<ChillerDragon> indeed

prob 20% of them would actually share their stuff here too

<ChillerDragon> so what do you suggest to do then?

06:50

<ChillerDragon> where should the poll be?

06:50

<ChillerDragon> what kind of poll?

06:50

<ChillerDragon> who is doing the polls?

angular

Did anyone try to add ImGui to ddnet? Cuz default GUI sucks

default gui is okey

06:51

the way its used is no

06:51

t

the type of poll where rating from 1 (strongly disagree) to 5 (strongly agree), let the user express their answers through questions like

Seeing the screenshots, would these changes excite you?

[ Upon checking out Beta branch]

Did you find the UI more interactive?
Should the old UI and the new UI be toggleable?
Did this UI change affect your way of navigating?
Does this UI change be more understandable for you?

06:53

this is like 1/3rd of what I would ask guaranteed

<ChillerDragon> okay and where should the poll be published?

06:54

<ChillerDragon> and who should do these polls?

06:54

<ChillerDragon> only for ui changes?

on a separate room, like how you guys did the 2023 best map poll

<ChillerDragon> idk what that was. i did not use discord in 2023

with the bot, apply questions and answers with buttons, record who reacted, make a list out of it in a day and you have a list of people with accurate info

<ChillerDragon> i see

thats how I would do it in dc kek

kek

06:55

at least, if I would have still be part of Teeworlds Data, heck I would've done it all for you all

<ChillerDragon> if people do not care enough to open github. Why should anyone care about their opinion?

this... is a bad take?

<ChillerDragon> Yea maybe

it's like: Yeah, people don't care what I say on the internet, so why are we using these websites to communicate in the first place?

06:57

"Seems worthless to do, maybe effective in a long term, but now useless"

06:57

justatest

I think a good solution would be to take polls from the ddnet client itself

<ChillerDragon> But to me it sounds like some ddnet mod/admin/dev has to do those polls. It takes time. And then you get a bunch of opinions from casual discord users and trolls that maybe play since 1 day and just vote because they can. I dont see how the result of such poll could be even taking seriously

Mr.Gh0s7

I think a good solution would be to take polls from the ddnet client itself

mmmmmmm.... more work for devs, they would 100% deny it lol

Yeah but you forget, the ones who would actually make it would be with the current system

<ChillerDragon> @Cellegen the thing here is. If you want something you do it. Not if you want something you ask others to figure it out for you.

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> But to me it sounds like some ddnet mod/admin/dev has to do those polls. It takes time. And then you get a bunch of opinions from casual discord users and trolls that maybe play since 1 day and just vote because they can. I dont see how the result of such poll could be even taking seriously

Yeah, those are an issue for the right person who is responsible. I was there once with this issue

<ChillerDragon> If you want change you have to lead it

.-. bruh

Cellegen

as I mentioned, not my job to repost or spread what has been posted already. I'm only bringing awareness that these types of changes need to be brought to the people more interactively, as in using a poll where different kinds of questions need to be collected to know if you guys head to the right direction designing good UI

refer to this

<ChillerDragon> what bruh

06:59

<ChillerDragon> to what

06:59

<ChillerDragon> are you using discord replies?

I'm just concerned on the way of communicating with the community

07:00

where every single way of communication nowadays need to be pushed to gh

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> are you using discord replies?

ye

kek

<ChillerDragon> im telling you if you dont come with a concret plan or ideally some actions nothing will come out of your "concern"

ya need to implement that feature too chillerdragon

an idea would be to use the ddnet.org website/forums since that has acounts

<ChillerDragon> @Cellegen too much effort

ddnet forum is kinda old for mobile users

tutel (edited)

<ChillerDragon> @Mr.Gh0s7 whats wrong with github

nothing's wrong with it other than I got a chance to mention accounts ftw

accounts

gigachad

07:02

me when no accounts:

07:02

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-wake-up-wake-up-in-night-ren-and-stimpy-gif-24104879 (edited)

you can create polls on github. You have to do that your self nobody will do it for you i think @Cellegen then you can post those in #general or wherever

07:04

and then all users can vote if they care. And heinrich can ignore their opinion the same way as he ignores opinions of the developers axaxax

I'll ask for moderator perks on DDNet dc
Get rejected
I'll donate another 200€ if they accept
Get accepted
Make the poll
Profit

07:05

why do you need mod

07:05

just do it as regular user

Ahm, yeah about that

07:06

I'm not that kind of person nowadays, where I do requests for anybody and doing free work for people

07:06

I began tired after the Teeworlds Data incident

so you consider creating polls so much free work that you wouldnt do it? Thats why you post here so someone else can do it?

:O what happened?

i dont think this is going anywhere

ChillerDragon

so you consider creating polls so much free work that you wouldnt do it? Thats why you post here so someone else can do it?

I can do it professionally with the available tools and right moderation

07:08

examples are on Teeworlds Data cuz cagent didn't delete every one of my works

ChillerDragon

i dont think this is going anywhere

eh

07:08

agreed

why do you want your work deleted :c

me? I don't

07:08

that Cagent threw me out and literally took over the Discord server

pepeW

1

feelsbadman

1

"cagent didn't delete every one of my works" whats the issue with that?

07:09

08:08:24 bridge | cellegenrih: agreed

07:09

agree with what?

most of the work I did was security standards (against bots, spammers and other awareness)

ChillerDragon

agree with what?

the UI issue is not going anywhere so I leave it there lol

ye

another teedrama™?

Cellegen

most of the work I did was security standards (against bots, spammers and other awareness)

basically, the server is vulnerable against every single thing in existence

what's the difference between skins.tw and teedata.net?

@zhn

justatest

no drama here

Mr.Gh0s7

what's the difference between skins.tw and teedata.net?

Ugh, I guess teedata.net was supposed to be the new Teeskins website with a new interface with better stability

07:12

but it still has quite a lot to be done

Ah makes sense

for me, that new look does look more professional and I'm glad I was there to help with some assets

ChillerDragon

and then all users can vote if they care. And heinrich can ignore their opinion the same way as he ignores opinions of the developers axaxax

so true

ChillerDragon

so you consider creating polls so much free work that you wouldnt do it? Thats why you post here so someone else can do it?

ChillerDragon

and then all users can vote if they care. And heinrich can ignore their opinion the same way as he ignores opinions of the developers axaxax

this one goes hard xd

08:48

can relate

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true

@Jupstar ✪ Aliveclan

09:05

why down :(

murpi

@Jupstar ✪ Aliveclan

The server or the http?

Your website

who is alive clan

murpi

Your website

Yeah I got banned so often recently because of reflection attacks. I'm not 100% sure if my php code or other Apache 2 stuff allows pinging servers. But the last report mentioned an IP that I already blocked by iptables.. Kind of annoying to deal with

09:11

If you ask me. They simply spoofed the IP of my server

09:12

But I don't want to track all traffic. The vps is already trash xd

09:12

@murpi do you need something specific?

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7852 Fix countries/types filters excluding all servers

09:13

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

797db31 Fix countries/types filters excluding all servers - Robyt3 a2c8869 Merge pull request #7852 from Robyt3/Browser-Community-Filter-Fix - heinrich5991

09:13

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7847 Filter bug, when selecting None

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/745926398140612678/1190383357759062016

09:16

Latest fng server is uploaded here

Jupstar ✪

@murpi do you need something specific?

I guide ppl to https://aliveclan.de/#downloads since many are not familiar with compiling the fng on their own xd

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #7853 Discussion: Prediction rules

To be honest, I don't really understand why the client should have only two prediction modes (DDRace, vanilla). Isn’t it better to add rules that will be sent by the server to the client so that it predicts each element in the way that the server needs it?

and I occasionally use your demo renderer

Jupstar ✪

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/745926398140612678/1190383357759062016

@murpi use this then

Jupstar ✪

Yeah I got banned so often recently because of reflection attacks. I'm not 100% sure if my php code or other Apache 2 stuff allows pinging servers. But the last report mentioned an IP that I already blocked by iptables.. Kind of annoying to deal with

we are getting this issue too in unique

Discord won't go down so often xd

murpi

and I occasionally use your demo renderer

I can host that on a Google service

u can appeal on abuseipdb

09:18

but it sorta goes away

09:18

we had reports only 2mo old now and they are gon

09:18

gone

09:18

vps is content

09:19

https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/72.204.22.162

Ewan

u can appeal on abuseipdb

The vps hoster is simply too restrictive. They get abuse e-mails and handle them too easily as abuse

perhaps u can show them this

Jupstar ✪

Discord won't go down so often xd

discord link tend to die for whatever reason

how we experienced the same reflection attacks and solved it

links*

Ewan

we had reports only 2mo old now and they are gon

Mh OK. I can try

zhn

discord link tend to die for whatever reason

Only if the original resource was deleted

09:19

Afaik

anyone ever used c# json

afaik discord started limiting such a behaviour

how u can just magically serialize an object as if it was js

they don't want people to use discord as fileshare

zhn

afaik discord started limiting such a behaviour

MH in worst case I can host them on gh

you can add github actions btw

09:20

if you want to tho xd

09:20

too

09:20

to

Ewan

how u can just magically serialize an object as if it was js

anyone know of a library which lets udo this

too too

I have them, but only works for six month

in cpp

Jupstar ✪

I have them, but only works for six month

why

zhn

why

Because GH decided to only last artifacts for 6 months

are u talking about static files

But I can create a release

u can set up a gh pages site on an org and use the site repo for resources (edited)

09:22

which do not expire

Can ddnet host a github.io page?

can ddnet host a github artifact?

Then I can also upload the demo viewer there

Jupstar ✪

Because GH decided to only last artifacts for 6 months

wtf

idk wat u are talking about

09:23

microsoft moment

Ewan

idk wat u are talking about

On GH u can also host websites

wait you can do releases can't you

ye it's called pages...

But dunno if u need premium

no!

09:23

one free pages site per normal user

09:23

or one per org!

they'll not be deleted ig

i said it already

zhn

wait you can do releases can't you

Yeah. Maybe I should

Ewan

one free pages site per normal user

But they can contain JavaScript?

of course

09:24

as long as it's client

09:24

lol

Then I'd say u have infinite pages xd

troll

1

u dont have dns so it's sorta limited

09:24

but yes

09:24

and repo has no unusual filesize limitation

That's a problem

09:25

The wasm module is like 20mb

why is it a problem

Oh I missed the no

it has no (unusual filesize limitations)

09:25

not

09:25

it has (no unusual filesize) limitations

09:26

associativity not included

Jupstar ✪

Then I'd say u have infinite pages xd

u can just host vast oceans of static content. even generated stuff like web frameworks make, as long as u don't expect the server to process anything further than a normal http server would.

09:26

hi heinrich

@Jupstar ✪ Can't you publish the pre-compiled binaries to your releases on your github fng repo or does github not allow manual uploads to there?

Ewan

u can just host vast oceans of static content. even generated stuff like web frameworks make, as long as u don't expect the server to process anything further than a normal http server would.

Sounds fine

u can preprocess most stuff

murpi

@Jupstar ✪ Can't you publish the pre-compiled binaries to your releases on your github fng repo or does github not allow manual uploads to there?

I never did that, so dunno

if u are dedicated

murpi

@Jupstar ✪ Can't you publish the pre-compiled binaries to your releases on your github fng repo or does github not allow manual uploads to there?

i believe it's a webhook

09:28

that u can control from anywhere

09:28

dont quote me

I mean I have GH actions

09:28

I just never created a release xd

u used to have to manually upload artifacts

09:28

so we used some gha thing to do it manually for us troll

troll

Jupstar ✪

I just never created a release xd

!

afaik artifacts expire after certain amount of time

do it japjupjopsti

On mobile I don't have access to my github tho. I'll do it later

murpi

afaik artifacts expire after certain amount of time

yea, artifacts expire

09:29

u need to publish them

09:29

and we used some custom github actions thing

morning its 6:50

09:50

i keep waking up early

awesome

09:51

i missed this chat a bit

09:52

late for me but idc because I’m actually coding (edited)

Ryozuki

morning its 6:50

U in murica?

09:57

Or in the ocean? Xd

he is hardly in murica

Image attachment

he is in argentina or whatever

09:58

only American in the continental sense

I'm pretty sure that he's not in asia

say that again

can't

Ewan

he is hardly in murica

Look behind you

Image attachment

Jupstar ✪

Look behind you

Not here man

Vexar

Click to see attachment 🖼️

why

10:02

you can apply line wrap to a text input pretty easily

I added a few feature that need an input with bigger height to have space to edit easier like website share post form

yeah man should be pretty ez

10:03

it already has everything u need

10:03

just need to glue it together

Some day when using HTML + CSS is not bound to JavaScript anymore, and isn't overcomplicated to embed

10:04

Then I give u ur textarea

I'll wait until that day then

10:04

and i have another question about using .gif file on DDNet

10:05

it's not possible right ?

stupid question but if I install the ddnet client on gnome it traps my cursor and windows key doesn't work to switch apps (edited)

Gifs suck for games. Like all video formats

10:05

U are bound to fps

10:06

For an in game TV OK. But not for animations

hmm I tried to add intro video for DDNet client but it's a bit hard to play mp4 or any video format

timakro

stupid question but if I install the ddnet client on gnome it traps my cursor and windows key doesn't work to switch apps (edited)

And your question is, if it's gnome fault?

Jupstar ✪

For an in game TV OK. But not for animations

no gif for menu and UI

Answer is yes

Wtf voxel 2 dropped

Vexar

no gif for menu and UI

I see. Well doesn't exist right now

wait, so ddnet always traps your cursor on gnome? no way around it?

timakro

wait, so ddnet always traps your cursor on gnome? no way around it?

That the meta key does not work is a bugntho

10:07

But yes it traps it always

Jupstar ✪

I see. Well doesn't exist right now

check your DM

timakro

wait, so ddnet always traps your cursor on gnome? no way around it?

I think it traps the cursor on every OS

We once had a mode that doesn't. But windows isn't ready for that

10:08

Bcs it creates black screen when tabbing out

oh i can tab out

‍♂️

timakro

stupid question but if I install the ddnet client on gnome it traps my cursor and windows key doesn't work to switch apps (edited)

f1

10:11

10:11

not a real fix tho

what does f1 do?

It releases mouse

console gives u os mouse back

ah thats great thanks

10:13

@Ewan /top5 works on your race servers

10:13

should i test creating a new rank as well?

yes pls

10:14

meybe we can read but not writr

@Ewan it works, I didn't change anything ^^

10:16

maybe it was whatever that attack was

is the db on a common port

10:18

maybe host or isp will close common db ports as a security concern if its being attacked (edited)

both race servers on your vps are up now

sweet

10:18

thanks

10:19

wonder what the issue was

Ewan

is the db on a common port

all gameservers connect to the same port, i believe the default sql port but not sure

yea i see

<ChillerDragon> pog timakro alive

Always been

what funny bridge are you connected to these days, chiller?

10:20

matrix?

i think he is on irc and matrix but he recently joined a call in discord

<ChillerDragon> https://chat.zillyhuhn.com/

o yea weechat and the web thinf

<ChillerDragon> @timakro its irc with a selfwritten web frontend that looks like discord xd

Xd

thats cool :D

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1706005333.png

Embedded image

10:22

<ChillerDragon> @timakro how is life?

10:22

<ChillerDragon> what are you up to these days?

i actually got to run to a lecture now :D

<ChillerDragon> ok mr busy

i'm studying in penultimate semester

<ChillerDragon> pro

10:23

<ChillerDragon> computer science?

Jupstar ✪

U in murica?

argentina xd

10:25

at a gym kek

10:25

so cheap

Ryozuki

argentina xd

Epic

<ChillerDragon> @Ewan is timakro hosting servers for u or wat?

other way aorund

i assume you host and write to his db

ya

i didnt know you are into racing

race is epic

you want us pinged servers in unique land i assume

<ChillerDragon> i lag so bad xd

yep

<ChillerDragon> dude im literal sherlock holmes

10:33

<ChillerDragon> i see right through you

we had canada but it was 60-80 ping for me usually

10:33

still unplayable

10:33

esp w messed up grenate prediction

<ChillerDragon> there is not even player interaction race is like the best mod for high ping, after city maybe xd

some ppl used to it

10:34

benz plays in can from mx and has for a long time afaik

10:34

but i cant do that

<ChillerDragon> fudgy is canadian right?

yea

10:34

he host can

10:34

sherlock holmes

<ChillerDragon> i see unique is bring your own server network

10:35

<ChillerDragon> scalable

i would do for ddnet but i dont think ppl want a usa 28

<ChillerDragon> i would do it for ddnet but i am not allowed :c

y not

10:35

doesn't davide do a lot of it

<ChillerDragon> i think risk of me hacking the database or something

do u have a bad history

<ChillerDragon> actually not i hosted a shit load of servers for others so far all happy c:

10:36

<ChillerDragon> idk i think deen just doesnt need it

10:36

<ChillerDragon> i ask him every year :D

@timakro how did u connect to usa servers o_O

10:39

may not be in the masters anymore

10:41

i hope u were not thinking of can servers when u tested?

<ChillerDragon> axaxaxax can = usa

As Obama already said Yes, we can

Lol

11:00

So i can use nlohmann json and go out of my way to include a somewhat unnecessary api or i use someone else’s parsing code which idk if i should trust

Ewan

i hope u were not thinking of can servers when u tested?

Oops that's exactly what happened

i having a hard time compile my source on a old debian machine.

bash   
       Updating crates.io index
       Fetch [==============>                                        ]  28.57%

omg lmao

Replying to @Jupstar ✪ As Obama already said […]

11:36

timakro racist confirmed

Replying to @timakro Oops that's exactly what happened

რილია

i having a hard time compile my source on a old debian machine.

bash   
       Updating crates.io index
       Fetch [==============>                                        ]  28.57%

waiting on network

რილია

i having a hard time compile my source on a old debian machine.

bash   
       Updating crates.io index
       Fetch [==============>                                        ]  28.57%

It looks like you're compiling rust, just wait another 10 minutes and you might get to 28.58%. Stay strong

feelsbadman

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Yes use FreeBSD for better network axaxaxa

Cipy29

It looks like you're compiling rust, just wait another 10 minutes and you might get to 28.58%. Stay strong

No

Looks like your rust is old and is not using the sparse index yet. Make sure to install the latest and greatest rust with rustup. It’s much faster in this stage. Not the rust from Debian apt

Cipy29

It looks like you're compiling rust, just wait another 10 minutes and you might get to 28.58%. Stay strong

Updating package manager package list

1

11:38

lol

chillerdragon

Looks like your rust is old and is not using the sparse index yet. Make sure to install the latest and greatest rust with rustup. It’s much faster in this stage. Not the rust from Debian apt

y shilling debian rust also gonna be modern

11:39

lmfao

Image attachment

11:39

me when i have no idea what I’m talking about

True Debian is known for its bleeding edge software repository

11:42

Legend has it that you can already install jopstis dd-pg2 in apt. Because apt is so new they also include software that is not written yet

1

Yea

11:45

Package driven development should be a thing. First you release in apt. Then you start writing the code.

debian distros ftw (antiX, devuan etc)

yes love ubuntu

ubuntu != debian

devuan != debian

devuan = debian - systemd

12:01

antiX = debian - systemd

ubuntu = debian + money

12:01

what is ur point

12:01

devuan is debian just as much as ubuntu is

12:01

it's not wrong to call ubuntu a debian distro

ubuntu has more recent versions than debian (edited)

12:03

debian distros are slow to update and use stable packages vs arch which uses the bleeding edge

Ewan

it's not wrong to call ubuntu a debian distro

imho it is. You could call it debian based (which imo is correct) but it's not debian (the repos are vastly different)

can you please remove those rust code in ddnet src ?

chillerdragon

Package driven development should be a thing. First you release in apt. Then you start writing the code.

Chiller: kinda like empty (only README.md and LICENCE) git repos which have gpl xD

რილია

can you please remove those rust code in ddnet src ?

why

12:06

it's the future

Ewan

why

it's annoying to compile on old machines, take ages to fetch and build, it took me 30 min just for crate.io fetching

I agree that rust is probably the better choice in writing software onwards but in this case rust doesn't do anything

not at the moment it doesn't

12:08

but it will

12:08

eventually

რილია

it's annoying to compile on old machines, take ages to fetch and build, it took me 30 min just for crate.io fetching

and the rest is just took 30 s

I also kinda agree that if we aren’t using it we should remove it. It’s just a compile time cost for no benefit right now

Ewan

not at the moment it doesn't

we are not in the future

we should be able to disable it

12:08

but not remove it

hey, can you remove that modern c++ as well. can you rewrite everything in C99. thanks

1

Ewan

eventually

Ewan

we should be able to disable it

if you make a flag for it, im cool with it

12:09

anyway

12:09

why sometimes my server won't show up on server lists ? but players can join

12:10

i put sv_register in my autoexec

12:10

sv_register ipv4

12:10

and it won't show up on server list

do you have some kind of firewall?

thonk

2

12:11

ah nvm that wouldn't make sense

Mr.Gh0s7

ah nvm that wouldn't make sense

cus the players can join ?

რილია

cus the players can join ?

ye. I got confused for a moment and I thought the heartbeats to the masterserver were on a different port (edited)

we have a shitty connection here in iran, i think it's the reason

12:14

but on some vps's it just working like a charm

12:15

tell me if you know a work around that won't involve contacting your isp

u can get a vpn

12:16

route all traffic thru somewhere more well known

Ewan

route all traffic thru somewhere more well known

that's sounds nice

im still waiting for unique rus approval xd

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

4d406bc Add 101 € funding for DDNet DB by David Villa - def-

12:46

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

2760025 fix name - def-

yo ryo

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He is busy doing business. Aka enjoying the sun in Argentina

<ChillerDragon> woah thats cool @Ryozuki !!! nice SEO

13:37

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1706017027.png

Embedded image

13:38

<ChillerDragon> you can say about duck duck go what you want but it doesnt have the "it works on my google" issue :) privacy gives your reproducible searches for free

You meant not using cookies

13:41

It's still Bing that gets the requests

13:44

I bet with you if u use ddg the whole time, a ai can identify you by the style you write. When you do the requests and how fast you type following requests

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> you can say about duck duck go what you want but it doesnt have the "it works on my google" issue :) privacy gives your reproducible searches for free

google gives more relevant info on such topics tho

14:00

i can't use ddg whole time

14:00

still sucks xd

Yea sounds reasonable

Replying to @Jupstar ✪ I bet with you if u use ddg the whole time, a ai can identify you by the…

chillerdragon

Yea sounds reasonable

I just need to give you legal advises as your lawyer

hi everyone

15:07

how can i make 1 function for anti spam everything

15:08

i need a anti spam in my shop, i put sounds on my emotes and need anti spam for the sounds, and many more

15:08

don't mention the broadcast spams

Disable chat xd

another idea

There should already be a rate limit

none of these involve chats

Then copy the one from chat for whatever u need

everything i made so far is spam free, but i made a variable for each to make it not spaming (edited)

Emotes have spam protection too

Jupstar ✪

Emotes have spam protection too

sv_emoticon_ms_delay 0 i make this zero, and my emotes have sounds

15:11

it's funny, and annoying

15:11

it's really satisfying to spam a emotes with sounds

Then set it to 1000

Jupstar ✪

Then set it to 1000

it's more annoying to wait

Und off

Jupstar ✪

Then copy the one from chat for whatever u need

you mean that one which make you mute ?

How to protect yourself from such bots? (connecting)

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i think the only way is either dont pulish server's ip or turn off the server

You can ban known vps & vpn ips

15:31

That should at least make it harder

Sedonya

How to protect yourself from such bots? (connecting)

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/745926398140612678/1178067041706590280

15:35

You can execute a ban cfg and put there all the IP ranges of spoofing connections

Sedonya

How to protect yourself from such bots? (connecting)

i am gonna asume that you tried sv_max_clients_per_ip 2

15:37

then you can do nothing, maybe make a white list ?

რილია

i am gonna asume that you tried sv_max_clients_per_ip 2

you are wrong, sadly

რილია

i am gonna asume that you tried sv_max_clients_per_ip 2

bots via proxy..

Sedonya

bots via proxy..

https://youtu.be/AwibOq49Dd4?feature=shared -> If you put the server in debug you will see the IP's

2023 10 19 22 13

WoW

15:52

I knew about the debug, but I didn’t think there was such a thing in it

15:52

thx

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

bba0521 Version 18.0.1 - def-

hello guyz

16:42

someone from ddnet team against me using github.io?

16:42

3

16:42

2

16:42

1

16:42

perfect

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #7854 "Clean up game tiles" cannot be undone/redone in editor

Reported by lolkildal on Discord.

who is x.github.io expert?

16:54

does it take a while until the site is reachable?

Maybe a few seconds yeah

16:57

Or maybe a bit longer if you are creating it for the first time I guess

Yek-H

https://youtu.be/AwibOq49Dd4?feature=shared -> If you put the server in debug you will see the IP's

big bot client

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[ddnet.github.io:main] 1 new commit

47122fb add index.html - Jupeyy

Robyt3

Maybe a few seconds yeah

what did i do wrong then: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet.github.io

GitHub - ddnet/ddnet.github.io

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16:58

i followed this guide https://pages.github.com/

Websites for you and your projects, hosted directly from your GitHub repository. Just edit, push, and your changes are live.

It's missing the deployment, so much is obvious

Robyt3

It's missing the deployment, so much is obvious

is that a manual step?

I guess yeah, go into Settings > Pages

seems like i dont have any rights to do that xd

lol, how did you create the repo then, can't see the settings button at all

yeah i can create repos

17:02

but apparently dont have setting rights then xd

17:02

@Learath2 give me admin rights for https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet.github.io please

GitHub - ddnet/ddnet.github.io

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7855 Remove unused parameter of SetWindowParams function

The bool AllowResizing parameter is only passed to other SetWindowParams functions but never used in the end, as whether or not resizing is allowed is separately determined based on the value of the int FullscreenMode parameter.

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test

-...

Robyt3

I guess yeah, go into Settings > Pages

but as far as i see this is simply an alternate way to create such a page

17:04

i created one without theme

you can customize the deployment, for example you can deploy one repository to a different path on the server

17:06

seems like only Owners on GitHub can do it, I'm still a normal Member there

[ddnet/ddnet.github.io] Issue opened: #1 i need admin rights

@def- can you give me admin rights for this repo please? i want https://ddnet.github.io/ to work, to host a demo viewer for murpi

kek

1

ez

There will probably be a discussion whether or not to use x.github.io at all I presume owo

owo

Teero

big bot client

Yek-Bot 2.1

17:09

kek

@murpi https://github.com/Jupeyy/teeworlds-fng2-mod/releases/download/1.1/fng-server-0.6.5-win64.zip

Robyt3

There will probably be a discussion whether or not to use x.github.io at all I presume owo

owo

well, we don't need to use it for anything official

17:11

we can host some tools by community for example

17:13

ok i go swimming now, cya later if you get admin rights robyte, u can ofc also do it

zlib 1.3.1 Release Notes Add LIT_MEM define to use more memory for a small deflate speedup

Slightly faster map loading

ez

17:14

learath will hate it

17:14

using more ram

[ddnet/ddnet.github.io] Issue closed: #1 i need admin rights

17:23

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

8b2a0b2 Update translation status - def-

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

9c66a6a Remove unused parameter of SetWindowParams function - Robyt3 09491f2 Merge pull request #7855 from Robyt3/Graphics-SetWindowParams-Cleanup - def-

17:39

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7855 Remove unused parameter of SetWindowParams function

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7856 Editor: made "Clean up game tiles" undoable

Closes #7854.

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/...

@Jupstar ✪ maybe you just need to make a commit

18:49

to trigger actions

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

af51fcc Editor: made "Clean up game tiles" undoable - archimede67 6829cd6 Merge pull request #7856 from archimede67/editor-undo-cleanup-game-times - Robyt3

18:52

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7856 Editor: made "Clean up game tiles" undoable

18:52

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7854 "Clean up game tiles" cannot be undone/redone in editor

Page is live now, but it doesn't work for me in Firefox and Edge

Uncaught ReferenceError: SharedArrayBuffer is not defined
    <anonymous> https://ddnet.github.io/DDNet_map.js:1

you'd probably need to set some headers to fix this

18:58

but u cant set headers on gh pages santatrollet

santatrollet

sounds like ddnet.org might be the better place

19:03

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/SharedArrayBuffer#security_requirements

SharedArrayBuffer - JavaScript | MDN

The SharedArrayBuffer object is used to represent a generic raw binary data buffer, similar to the ArrayBuffer object, but in a way that they can be used to create views on shared memory. A SharedArrayBuffer is not a Transferable Object, unlike an ArrayBuffer which is transferable.

blank page on firefox 115 ESR https://ddnet.github.io/load_map.html

question is, does .htaccess work? xd

19:46

well if somebody wants to add it to ddnet.org

19:46

the repo is there

no, .htaccess doesn't work on any non-apache webserver

19:47

including github pages and nginx

https://github.com/josephrocca/clip-image-sorter/blob/main/enable-threads.js

clip-image-sorter/enable-threads.js at main · josephrocca/clip-imag...

Sort a folder of images according to their similarity with provided text in your browser (uses a browser-ported version of OpenAI's CLIP model and the web's new File System Access A...

19:48

seems like this could work

uh, weird

[ddnet.github.io:main] 1 new commit

1bb20cd test enable-threads.js - Jupeyy

can i flush the site?

Should update automatically now

19:53

works

nice

19:53

works

19:53

epic gamer moment

19:54

@murpi https://ddnet.github.io/load_map.html just for u

19:54

there's a flashing colored "letterbox" but left and right, how do I go fullscreen?

Robyt3

there's a flashing colored "letterbox" but left and right, how do I go fullscreen?

its a normal ddnet client

19:55

go out of demo.. but dunno if that works

I mean fullscreen my browser

lmao

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I can't press F11 anyone when the game captures it

that's what happens if i enable fullscreen

heinrich5991

no, .htaccess doesn't work on any non-apache webserver

https://github.com/e404/htaccess-for-nginx There is teeeechnically a plugin for nginx

GitHub - e404/htaccess-for-nginx: .htaccess for nginx enables the n...

.htaccess for nginx enables the nginx high performance webserver to deal with .htaccess files. - GitHub - e404/htaccess-for-nginx: .htaccess for nginx enables the nginx high performance webserver t...

nice, desktop fullscreen works for me

Learath2

https://github.com/e404/htaccess-for-nginx There is teeeechnically a plugin for nginx

it also links an explanation of why this is a bad idea

Yeah, not saying you should use it

Jupstar ✪

@murpi https://ddnet.github.io/load_map.html just for u

thats cool! - curious tho, going freeze doesnt display as freeze, how come, if its basically just a ddnet client

BlaiZephyr | meloƞ

thats cool! - curious tho, going freeze doesnt display as freeze, how come, if its basically just a ddnet client

it's not latest ddnet

pistol shots aren't rendering aswell :D

since sdl is on like sdl3 i also dont have motivation to keep the scripts up to date

but not complaining, it seems to be a big WoP

20:00

cool stuff

BlaiZephyr | meloƞ

but not complaining, it seems to be a big WoP

i guess then newer demos are not downward compatible

damn, that's actually pretty fast renderer for maps

20:01

seems way more fast than the one currently on ddnet.org

Chairn

seems way more fast than the one currently on ddnet.org

well it's simply ddnet client

20:01

compiled to wasm

is it possible to have entity mode?

i guess so

20:01

page up

BlaiZephyr | meloƞ

pistol shots aren't rendering aswell :D

for me on an old demo they work

oh this is running on 15.9.1

20:02

makes sense then :D

damn, where servers ?

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https://github.com/Jupeyy/ddnet/tree/web_preview if u want to update xd

GitHub - Jupeyy/ddnet at web_preview

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where sound in demo as well?

Chairn

damn, where servers ?

sadly curl doesnt work

20:03

it compiles, but doesnt work

20:03

maybe certs missing or smth

Chairn

where sound in demo as well?

sounds work for me

20:03

chromium

ok, sounds work, maybe other demo was broken

[serverbrowse_http]: no working serverlist URL found

so latest demo's wont render correctly, demo's prior to 17.4.1 seem to work just fine, i wonder why that is

some change in demo format?

BlaiZephyr | meloƞ

so latest demo's wont render correctly, demo's prior to 17.4.1 seem to work just fine, i wonder why that is

i dunno, @heinrich5991 might be able to tell you

it uses ddnet 15.9.1 apparently

BlaiZephyr | meloƞ

so latest demo's wont render correctly, demo's prior to 17.4.1 seem to work just fine, i wonder why that is

sounds like a bug

BlaiZephyr | meloƞ

oh this is running on 15.9.1

yes.

could you file an issue, @BlaiZephyr | meloƞ?

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7857 Show extra "Reset filter" button when no servers match filter

Render an additional "Reset filter" button below the "No servers match your filter criteria" message to make it more obvious for new players how to restore the original view of servers, especially when the filter tab is not currently selected. Screenshots:

Before:

!screenshot_2024-01-23_20-59-20

After:

![screenshot_2024-01-23_20-57-53](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/assets/23437060/ef7bb0fa-7...

Jupstar ✪

https://github.com/Jupeyy/ddnet/tree/web_preview if u want to update xd

to this i assume?

no

20:07

it's ddnet client xd

oh wait

20:08

kek

ah wait

20:08

check whether it renders in latest ddnet, too, if you can

where ninja skin for frozen tees?

Isn't this expected for demos to some degree? Each client gets the messages for its current version when the demo is recorded, but the demo doesn't contain all the backwards compatible snapshots (edited)

heinrich5991

check whether it renders in latest ddnet, too, if you can

render's just fine on latest

Chairn

where ninja skin for frozen tees?

thats what i meant when i said it doesnt render correctly, it wont even render freeze state(live freeze), it just looks like you're in super :D (edited)

anyway if somebody wants to update to latest client the branch above is touching relatively few ddnet code. Only problem is building all libraries (dependencies) because i didnt checkout any stable version in the scripts, so the lib build scripts need to be updated at least

20:11

i don't find it worth it for now xd

20:11

i never used it in the past 2 years xD

but a cool thing to play around with nontheless :D

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7857 Show extra "Reset filter" button when no servers match filter

20:42

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

1f8a60b Show extra "Reset filter" button when no servers match filter - Robyt3 46b932b Merge pull request #7857 from Robyt3/Browser-ResetFilter-Button - heinrich5991

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