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teeguesser!! That sounds epic. @murpi good job. When can matrix/irc users play it?

Yeah I always use either my phone app or irb ruby repl because it’s the shortest repl name in my PATH.

Replying to @MilkeeyCat then any repl xd

Hi, is there any api for rendering skins?

Yes I think so

02:52

There were so many projects I lost track of where the latest shit is

02:53

I think teeskins had one

02:54

Should add such web services to a listing on the wiki @Ryozuki

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7827 Only log http requests if dbg_curl 1

closed #7823 $ DDNet-Server "sv_register 1" behind nat with errors looks like this https://logs.zillyhuhn.com/?url=https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/M9 and a successful register looks like this https://logs.zillyhuhn.com/?url=https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/Hy $ DDNet-Server "sv_register 1;dbg_curl 1" successful register looks like this https://logs.zillyhuhn.com/?url=https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/k8

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[x] Provided s...

Mʎɹ シ

Try to set m_StartTick to Server()->Tick() - 3

still nothing

<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ finally fixed the "user already logged in error" poggers2

poggers2

05:12

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1705640992.png

Embedded image

05:12

<ChillerDragon> oh and my production password is totally not 4 letters

You password's pass isnt it gigachad

gigachad

greenthing

I can neither confirm nor deny

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #7828 Current approach to add functionality for existing code

I was a little upset while working on #7820 because the rescue functionality is divided into completely different files that have actually nothing to do with rescuing My question is: is there anything that will be less overwhelming than remaking the whole ddnet (or server part only) on ECS basis to be able to make (i.e rescue) code cleaner? Maybe, I'm doing something wrong on #7920

Lol @zhn why ecs? How does that help and how do you even imagine ecs being a superset of ddnet physics

07:53

The biggest strength of ecs is not being deterministic per frame

07:53

That allows to reorder events etc. And thus allows multithreading

BlaiZephyr | meloƞ

the ""function"" gamecontroller? gamecontroller::yourfunction(); ?

GameServer()->m_pController->Function

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ finally fixed the "user already logged in error" poggers2

poggers2

Nice chiller. Maybe in 200 years I use the chat again

<ChillerDragon> xd

08:08

<ChillerDragon> i am using it more since weechat over ssh with 200 ping is no fun

chillerdragon

Should add such web services to a listing on the wiki @Ryozuki

if u want

<ChillerDragon> me?

08:11

<ChillerDragon> no u

08:12

<ChillerDragon> your head of wiki

no

08:13

wiki is everyone

08:13

edit

08:13

go

08:13

im lazy

08:13

im developing llvm

<ChillerDragon> :(

chillerdragon ive never used ruby. All i know something related to it is that DHH made ruby on rails justatest

justatest

<ChillerDragon> yep you know a lot already

08:21

<ChillerDragon> i give you another fun fact. It feels like any other scripting language such as python but uses do and end for scopes

08:21

<ChillerDragon> you can do curley too but yeh

08:21

<ChillerDragon> know u know ruby your welcome

08:21

<ChillerDragon> now*

I dont know pyson xd

<ChillerDragon> go use irb as calculator

08:22

<ChillerDragon> works like node

08:23

<ChillerDragon> i am surprised people outside of ruby lands know DHH

Ive heard his takes justatest

justatest

<ChillerDragon> but have you seen him race?

08:24

<ChillerDragon> he has 6 seconds on run_blue

08:24

<ChillerDragon> jk i mean this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNQl0x6WS3M

David Heinemeier Hansson

Wheel to wheel with LMP2s in Shanghai

08:24

<ChillerDragon> average developer

Average dynamically typed language enjoyer

<ChillerDragon> xd

Jupstar ✪

Lol @zhn why ecs? How does that help and how do you even imagine ecs being a superset of ddnet physics

+struct RescueComponent add all functionality in RescueComponent +BasicTee->AddComponent(new RescueComponent) in DDNetTee constructor

08:27

or something like that

<ChillerDragon> omg jipsotiti

08:28

<ChillerDragon> i fixed fucking text selection

08:29

<ChillerDragon> YOU CAN NOW HILITILE LETTERS WITH DA MOUSE

Epic

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1705652948.png

Embedded image

08:29

<ChillerDragon> haters would say websites can do that out of the box

chiller who deleted all the terminals on your system

08:29

you preffered to talk from irs

08:29

irc

08:29

preferred*

<ChillerDragon> i use irc via ssh

08:30

<ChillerDragon> and i have 200 ping via ssh so typing is pain af

08:30

<ChillerDragon> chat.zillyhuhn.com has bleeding edge anti ping typing is smooth af

u use discord via web-browser via your own web-server

<ChillerDragon> i use irc via my own web frontend :D

okey

<ChillerDragon> discord stole the design from me

08:31

<ChillerDragon> i had it first

chillerdragon ever tried using discord?

u use discord via irc-server via your own web-server via web-browser

<ChillerDragon> something like that

08:31

<ChillerDragon> @MilkeeyCat ye didnt like it

MilkeeyCat

chillerdragon ever tried using discord?

@ChillerDragon

<ChillerDragon> @zhn

i was linking your profile

08:32

pingdragon

<ChillerDragon> axaxax

Chillerdragon when use svelte for frontend?

08:32

Or solid

<ChillerDragon> do i look like webdev?

08:32

<ChillerDragon> vanilla all the way

pure html+css+js

<ChillerDragon> bloat enough that i use webpack

chillerdragon u know htmx?

<ChillerDragon> no

he really thinks using bloatware discord via his own bloatware is something better xd

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zhn

+struct RescueComponent add all functionality in RescueComponent +BasicTee->AddComponent(new RescueComponent) in DDNetTee constructor

That sounds useful anyway ^^ But yeah I understand what you mean, but ecs over the whole code base doesn't sound trivial

yeah Jupstar that's why i asked i final question in issue

08:33

a*

08:34

i don't like idea of introducing ecs to existing ddnet codebase xd

08:34

even in server-side only

chillerdragon frontend webdev is all about bloat

zhn

yeah Jupstar that's why i asked i final question in issue

Ah yeah. I guess we don't really have such event registering

MilkeeyCat

chillerdragon frontend webdev is all about bloat

Use wasm and webgpu

use the irc wtf

Svelte and solid not that bad

08:36

And htmx ofc

@ChillerDragon you could make web-client for chatting on tw server without loading full tw-client on board instead of irc-proxied discord web-client

08:38

i just don't get the point of reinventing square-shaped wheel

It feels good when it's ur square shaped wheel (edited)

he could use matrix instead anyway

08:39

and make his own matrix client xd

08:39

zillytrix

08:41

im sorry if im being rude chiller xd

poggers2

hadn't my meal in a while

in rust we trust

08:41

friday

no

08:41

its fenec friday

<ChillerDragon> @zhn i built such tw webchat in verry crappy already years ago. And do plan to build a bit nicer one. But who knows when i find time for that

zhn

hadn't my meal in a while

When i see ur name, i always read it zsh justatest

justatest

read it as zohan

<ChillerDragon> @zhn yea reinventing is only useful for educational reasons. I don't really like educating my self. I do it because i am convinced my chat platform is the best out there

08:44

<ChillerDragon> its much faster and nicer looking than any other irc/matrix client

08:44

<ChillerDragon> and its selfhosted and customizable since i know the code

you can do the same with matrix

<ChillerDragon> easy to deploy

its literally just a protocol

<ChillerDragon> no matrix is ass

08:45

<ChillerDragon> irc is much nicer

i don't get it anyway

<ChillerDragon> it works so good

08:45

<ChillerDragon> im texting with you just fine

anyone also too i guess xd

<ChillerDragon> yea so why use matrix

08:54

<ChillerDragon> because in matrix is nothing just fine

zhn

read it as zohan

lol i read it as zuhn

zhn

read it as zohan

Wtf. Rename back to gerdoe xd

<ChillerDragon> its gerdoe!?

Yes

<ChillerDragon> wtf

09:31

<ChillerDragon> that should be illegal

Ikr

bro's still on irc xd

chillerdragon: ffr, what do you want to learn about programming?

<ChillerDragon> e

10:12

<ChillerDragon> i dont do rust

10:12

<ChillerDragon> ping ryo

10:13

<ChillerDragon> also friday already over time to go for an evening swim :p

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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #7829 Bug: Numerous skin resolution warnings appear when selecting servers in the server browser

Windows 11, 64Bit Steam, Nightly build !DDNet_NY0JyYA2gH I couldn't bisect the first bad commit due to the following unrelated error's: Commit: bcf86d81 ``` Severity Code Description Project File Line Suppression State Error C2679 binary '=': no operator found which takes a right-hand operand of type 'int' (or there is no acceptable conversion) engine-shared C:\Users-----------\GitHub\ddnet...

lol how did http code affect client

Mh

zhn

lol how did http code affect client

It downloads skins

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> ping ryo

I always ping him, it's more fun with other ppl too. And you as tw unionist should be prepared for being able to code rust

<ChillerDragon> ok hit me

But ofc you can also ask a vulkan question

<ChillerDragon> ok i have vulkan question

We can also discuss what modding model is the best

<ChillerDragon> how do i do a graphical game in c without libraries?

You can implement everything that exists as library you own

10:29

Copy and paste whole Linux ecosystem into a single c file

<ChillerDragon> oof

10:29

<ChillerDragon> isnt there a simple gfx linux api you can call from raw c directly?

Would be beyond funny

<ChillerDragon> and go start do some opengl and vulkan

I don't think so

<ChillerDragon> if i wanna go a gfx game in C wat i do? SDL? glfw? glew etc?

The GPUs firmwares are often not even open source

10:30

SDL has a renderer indeed

<ChillerDragon> annoying

Enough to so very simple things

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7827 Only log http requests if dbg_curl 1

10:31

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

e59c9a6 Only log http requests if dbg_curl 1 - ChillerDragon 432b431 Merge pull request #7827 from ChillerDragon/pr_less_http_logs - Learath2

10:31

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7823 register http log spam since curl multi on debian 12

self note: dont update ur llvm pr branch because u will have to compile 4000 files again (edited)

10:34

Image attachment

10:34

Kill

<ChillerDragon> bloat

True

<ChillerDragon> when suckless C compiler

Disable some backends

<ChillerDragon> ah wait there is TinyCC

The problem with c isn't the compiler

Jupstar ✪

Disable some backends

i only have x86_64 target, and MLIR,clang and lld projects on

10:35

not even full llvm

It's the build system

Ryozuki

i only have x86_64 target, and MLIR,clang and lld projects on

Buy more cores

Hey, can someone tell me what defines an entity in the code? My question is more about the dragger. If it didn't visually have the "blue laser" that drags you in would it still be considered an entity? Or just a tile that "sucks you in"? And btw are there any "in deep" (even if just a bit) blogs about the code? It's a bit though to understand some of the checks / methods with names alone

<ChillerDragon> here are pretty much all dev blogs i know about https://wiki.ddnet.org/wiki/Development#External_resources

10:43

<ChillerDragon> oh no is it missing my epic tw net procotol docs? https://chillerdragon.github.io/teeworlds-protocol/

i need more coffee

<ChillerDragon> finally good looking mobile support

10:49

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1705661356.png

Embedded image

Aimazing

10:53

Bruh do you really use everything in white design xd

<ChillerDragon> xd

Is your phone not oled

<ChillerDragon> idk

Rest in pixels

kek

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<ChillerDragon> lol

ChillerDragon: Thanks, I think I found some links that might interest me. Sadly I don't think it will answer half of my questions as there's no link about tiles

<ChillerDragon> yep tiles defs need some docs

10:55

<ChillerDragon> mapitems.h character.cpp is where you wanna look at for tiles and maybe collision.cpp if i have to think out of the top of my head

Do you know if you talk about them in your game controller video? might take a look at it x)

<ChillerDragon> i have been successfully procrastinating recording an episode on tiles for years

10:56

<ChillerDragon> sorry xd

Nah but there's also entities which might be what I really want

<ChillerDragon> i didnt cover any of that in the video series

10:57

<ChillerDragon> ah you mean code files

ehh yes?

<ChillerDragon> yea my entitity xp boils down to creating "plants" that grow shotgun bullets in 2019 and never really finish it :D

10:58

<ChillerDragon> https://github.com/DDNetPP/DDNetPP/commit/b1ee7e5ee3fcb5e71ed1209cdb623207cdd9f75a

plants alpha test · DDNetPP/DDNetPP@b1ee7e5

11:00

<ChillerDragon> having a clean blog post for that would be really cool indeed

11:00

<ChillerDragon> oke bye

Chillerdragon, do you play star dew valley?

[ddnet-discordbot:master] 1 new commit

2d1c80f SkinDB: Fix Submit Info channel ID - murpii

Plants that grow sg bullets? Crazy xD

Chillerdragon: do you think that, if I play stardew valley I'm allowed to join the farmer protests?

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7829 Bug: Numerous skin resolution warnings appear when selecting servers in the server browser

11:21

[ddnet-discordbot:master] 1 new commit

f5049b8 Guild_Log: Return if announcement message is a reply - murpii

@heinrich5991 what do you want to know about rust?

11:24

Today is ffr

I was stumped a couple of days ago by this: https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&edition=2021&gist=a1bff247acdeee922c8a05cb9acb68d8

Rust Playground

A browser interface to the Rust compiler to experiment with the language

11:26

I know the solution now, but it's still pretty tricky IMO

11:26

line 24 compiles, line 26 doesn't. why?

Ah yeah I have that too very often

11:28

I guess this is simply the borrow checker being too annoying? I don't see why the args have to outlive the outer call

make a local

Jupstar ✪

I guess this is simply the borrow checker being too annoying? I don't see why the args have to outlive the outer call

yes, but why?

i wonder why

11:29

maybe it doesnt take into account its copy?

Ryozuki

make a local

unrelated to the question, I asked "why?", not "how to fix?"

@heinrich5991 do u think this is also a bad code itself, u take mut self when u dont need to

11:30

hmmm

heinrich5991

yes, but why?

Mh dunno. The question to me would be, is this fixable. So if it's not, then for some reason the scope of arguments does not end. In asm ud fill the arguments beforehand, so I dunno what the blocker should be

maybe it does some logic across statements

11:31

and within the same statement the function arguments are an expression

Is the new borrow checker also not allowing this?

so it evaluates the same statement with that expression

11:31

vs

11:31

evaluating a statement with another statement

Ryozuki

@heinrich5991 do u think this is also a bad code itself, u take mut self when u dont need to

this is only example code to show a problem

11:31

yes

Why would it be allowed? Can't have more than one mut borrow

Jupstar ✪

Mh dunno. The question to me would be, is this fixable. So if it's not, then for some reason the scope of arguments does not end. In asm ud fill the arguments beforehand, so I dunno what the blocker should be

yes, this is fixable

Learath2

Why would it be allowed? Can't have more than one mut borrow

why is line 24 allowed then?

heinrich5991

yes, this is fixable

Do you know the answer BTW?

I do, but it's unsatisfying

I guess simply the process of how the borrow checker evaluates statements?

Jupstar ✪

I guess simply the process of how the borrow checker evaluates statements?

i think yes

11:33

i explained it

Ryozuki

maybe it does some logic across statements

.

I thihnk your explanation doesn't show why line 24 would be treated differently from line 26

11:34

line 24 has a shared reference at the same time as a unique one, line 26 has two unique ones

11:34

both is forbidden

heinrich5991

I thihnk your explanation doesn't show why line 24 would be treated differently from line 26

Maybe because it Parsees the function call as functional

11:34

Like there is no real self

@heinrich5991 do u know the answer?

yes, but it's unsatisfying

well tell it xD

let's move to the answer I guess

11:35

the answer is that line 24 is allowed by https://rustc-dev-guide.rust-lang.org/borrow_check/two_phase_borrows.html

Two-phase-borrows - Rust Compiler Development Guide

A guide to developing the Rust compiler (rustc)

heinrich5991

line 24 has a shared reference at the same time as a unique one, line 26 has two unique ones

Yeah

Yes this

and the only reason line 26 is not included is that they didn't want to whitelist this case, too

I was trying to find the docs frantically

because they thought it would be unintuitive

Oh

I thought it was called a reborrow, not a two phase borrow

So it's actually a self made restriction

11:36

Funny

yes

heinrich5991

because they thought it would be unintuitive

Funnily enough it turned out more unintuitive this way

this is interesting

11:38

bookmarked

11:38

and im gonna quiz my coworkers kek

credit goes to @Patiga for finding this btw

heartw

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https://rust-lang.github.io/rfcs/2094-nll.html

2094-nll - The Rust RFC Book

11:45

This was the rfc

 pub fn allows_two_phase_borrow(&self) -> bool {
        match *self {
            BorrowKind::Shared
            | BorrowKind::Fake
            | BorrowKind::Mut { kind: MutBorrowKind::Default | MutBorrowKind::ClosureCapture } => {
                false
            }
            BorrowKind::Mut { kind: MutBorrowKind::TwoPhaseBorrow } => true,
        }
    }

Before that it also wasn't allowed apparently

yep

https://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2017/03/01/nested-method-calls-via-two-phase-borrowing/

Man, how did u use rust before non lexical lifetimes

yo is it worth just predicting the hook for coll checking to avoid smth like https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/295908390956433410/1197865529285816320 ? (edited)

Looks very annoying xd

MilkeeyCat

Click to see attachment 🖼️

greenthing

Teero

yo is it worth just predicting the hook for coll checking to avoid smth like https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/295908390956433410/1197865529285816320 ? (edited)

?

Well predict the hook instead of doing line collision?

Teero

Well predict the hook instead of doing line collision?

The line literally is the hook prediction

11:52

When standing still

No it is not xd

Jupstar ✪

When standing still

Yea

Teero

No it is not xd

100%

Check showroom

Teero

Yea

Without standing it's not possible

It sure is lol?

Teero

It sure is lol?

Depends on what you mean

Teero

yo is it worth just predicting the hook for coll checking to avoid smth like https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/295908390956433410/1197865529285816320 ? (edited)

Is this video from the person that also hooks

11:55

Or does he spec smone

Jupstar ✪

It downloads skins

nah i mean

11:55

it downloads skins from server on server select?

@Teero that the hookline is wrong if u spec someone is bcs it is send as normalized vec2 rounded to int

11:56

It's not because the prediction is wrong

11:57

The server literally sends the wrong cursor position

11:57

Vanilla has some weird decisions like that sadly

He's not speccing

Then someone introduced a bug

11:58

The hookline is the prediction if u stand still

11:58

And this guy stands still

11:59

I don't see his cursor tho

11:59

It must be demo or spec

11:59

Both use snapshot info

it happens even without demo or spec pepeW

pepeW

MilkeeyCat

it happens even without demo or spec pepeW

pepeW

Your own tee?

MilkeeyCat

Click to see attachment 🖼️

@Jupstar ✪

This has to be a bug then.. The code for the hookline is literally just call tick a few times

12:02

Or its some windows vs Linux inaccuracies or similar

12:02

Floating point

MilkeeyCat

Click to see attachment 🖼️

This is not comparable to the video in showroom

12:03

The video in showroom has a hookline color

12:03

If u add a bookable block and its green

i also had yellow color when tee was falling xd

And u still can't hook

MilkeeyCat

i also had yellow color when tee was falling xd

Try on local server and send a video

12:05

I can only repeat myself. Hook line is hook prediction.. At least the color u see must be right

12:05

Anything else is a bug in either server code or client

12:05

Except I'm missing something important here

12:06

Last time I checked hookline code it was simply doing prediction ticks as if the time stands still

12:06

So as if nothing is moving except the hook

Jupstar ✪

Try on local server and send a video

is it a bug when it shows that i cant hook thru but its actually possible?

MilkeeyCat

is it a bug when it shows that i cant hook thru but its actually possible?

I'd in first place only trust the color of the hook line

12:13

The line itself is also just the direction of the hook multiplied by the theoretical length

12:13

This can include FP inaccuracies already

MilkeeyCat

is it a bug when it shows that i cant hook thru but its actually possible?

So put a hookable block and look if it's green

Jupstar ✪

So put a hookable block and look if it's green

i never used map editor xd

12:15

i joined the same server

12:15

and when tee falls hook like becomes yellow

12:15

but i cant hook thru

But tbh since the cursor is not real 360° I'd already be surprised of you can easily reproduce a hook line that doesn't match the color

MilkeeyCat

Click to see attachment 🖼️

This would already surprise me

12:17

With mouse sens 1 it should be easy to reproduce on the same map

12:17

Always noting I talk about your local player

12:17

Demo and spec are a different problem

idk if its useful anyhow but here u go

MilkeeyCat

idk if its useful anyhow but here u go

Do you compile your own?

ye

Could be optimizations

12:19

Just send map name

12:20

I can later check

wasteland

Jupstar ✪

Could be optimizations

and that guy from showroom uses windows

12:20

i use linux btw

But I also can't judge your video very well on mobile

12:21

Maybe u are moving your cursor for 1 frame

12:21

Is the hook color yellow?

ye

Can someone tell me what is "snap"? A lot of classes implement some method with that name. it is used to send info or something?

It's basically a memory dump of the current game that is send to keep clients in sync

12:34

Snapshot

Yeah okay thanks. I wasn't too sure about it

@murpi how 2 play teeguesser? or does it not exist yet lmai

@Patiga btw what are u up to rn?

currently twsnap, a rusty and heavily typed snapshot representation shared between Zwelfs twgame and my twgpu. I am currently nearly done with adding compatibility (via conversion) with the ddnet snap format via libtw2

cyberFighter

@murpi how 2 play teeguesser? or does it not exist yet lmai

Not done yet

https://gitlab.com/ddnet-rs/twsnap/-/

justatest

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Getting enough images for the quizzes takes quite a lot of time

aw

for rendering I need some physics, and we also have some plans with other funky stuff where we need interoperability

it would be funny if there was also like difficulty sorting

Patiga

https://gitlab.com/ddnet-rs/twsnap/-/

hm seems to be private still xd

Patiga

https://gitlab.com/ddnet-rs/twsnap/-/

Epic

or an alternative view in entities

Patiga

hm seems to be private still xd

no its not

12:46

just delete -/ at the end

hey

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12:46

but it was afaik xd

12:46

checked ddnet-rs week ago

nice, works

Patiga

currently twsnap, a rusty and heavily typed snapshot representation shared between Zwelfs twgame and my twgpu. I am currently nearly done with adding compatibility (via conversion) with the ddnet snap format via libtw2

So demo viewer ready?

well thats where I need physics: dead reckoning and projectiles (coz they also need tunes and stuff)

Teero

@Patiga btw what are u up to rn?

do you have an active project rn? :)

Patiga

https://gitlab.com/ddnet-rs/twsnap/-/

Is the Id generator limited by tw code. Is that how tw generates ids too?

murpi

Getting enough images for the quizzes takes quite a lot of time

is it not automated?

Jupstar ✪

Is the Id generator limited by tw code. Is that how tw generates ids too?

I thin that originates from Zwelfs twgame

i thought ddnet has map webview?

Patiga

I thin that originates from Zwelfs twgame

Mh OK. Bcs I see legacy Id etc. Xd

Teero

i thought ddnet has map webview?

Ddnet also has a demo viewer on web

thats a small compatibility feature. afaik it does not interfer with the uid system

Teero

i thought ddnet has map webview?

How do I not accidentally show the map logo? How do I make sure I actually get a part of the map and not just a blank space of the map?

Patiga

thats a small compatibility feature. afaik it does not interfer with the uid system

It would probably be interesting if twgame is capable of accepting unique integers as IDs

12:58

That's the approach I did.. So not divided into player etc

just set up some requiremtns. so -> dont show anything within spawn tile reach -> atleast x diffrent types of block on the screen (edited)

Jupstar ✪

It would probably be interesting if twgame is capable of accepting unique integers as IDs

if that is what you are implying, yea twgame is built to be extendible to more than 64 players with uids

Jupstar ✪

That's the approach I did.. So not divided into player etc

right and in twsnap, player character ddnetcharacter ddnetplayer and whatever else existed is merged into a single object

Patiga

if that is what you are implying, yea twgame is built to be extendible to more than 64 players with uids

I mean for me an entity has a unique Id. No matter the entity type

Patiga

right and in twsnap, player character ddnetcharacter ddnetplayer and whatever else existed is merged into a single object

Ok

Jupstar ✪

I mean for me an entity has a unique Id. No matter the entity type

hm iirc that is not the case in twgame as of now, @Zwelf ?

Teero

just set up some requiremtns. so -> dont show anything within spawn tile reach -> atleast x diffrent types of block on the screen (edited)

1. Logos aren't necessarily at or near the spawn tile (e.g after noobfilters) 2. this wouldn't work well at all and just makes most quizzes impossible to guess

murpi

1. Logos aren't necessarily at or near the spawn tile (e.g after noobfilters) 2. this wouldn't work well at all and just makes most quizzes impossible to guess

Logos aren't really an issue imo. On geoguessr you can spawn in front of a very known monument/somewhere where the name of the city it's written. It's not necessarily a bad thing. And for 2., Couldn't you just take screenshots closer to the center of the map?afaik borders are usually empty but the more you go into the middle the higher is the chance to get some parts (might be wrong, it's a feeling).

A image quiz with the answer literally written on the image is not a problem? lmao

troll

13:10

LMAO imagine like on google maps where they censor license plates

That's ohw it works on geoguessr ^^ . And by the name of your game it looks like you got inspired out of it

so logos get censored

13:10

troll

troll

troll

And it's never been an issue

13:11

It can even make it more pleasant as you can get some free guesses, and not only impossible ones where only people who know 10000 maps can answer ^^

Automate it

Replying to @murpi Getting enough images for the quizzes takes quite a lot of time

consider reading the rest of the chat, chillerdragon

Ye saw it too now

13:24

I do not play it. And what farmer protests?

Replying to @Jupstar ✪ Chillerdragon: do you think that, if I play stardew valley I'm allowed t…

chillerdragon

I do not play it. And what farmer protests?

Lmao. Did you emigrate already

?

13:25

:D

13:25

Idk what you talking about

Yeah, maybe that is also better

13:26

Enjoy life. Peace out

Enlighten me pls

Bro is somewhere in asia

13:26

Read German news

chiller when speak japanese

13:26

japanization beam

I am not planning to learn any Lange

13:27

Maybe Russian

13:28

axaxaxaxaxa rip germans https://www.dw.com/en/germany-farmers-protest-causes-nationwide-disruption/live-67913441

Germany: Farmers' protest causes nationwide disruption – DW – 01/08...

German farmers are angered by the government's plans to slash agricultural subsidies. Blockades have disrupted road traffic across the country, posing a nightmare for commuters.

xd

xd

Jupstar ✪

I mean for me an entity has a unique Id. No matter the entity type

in twgame all non-tee entities have a unique id and all tees have a separate unique id pool

chillerdragon

axaxaxaxaxa rip germans https://www.dw.com/en/germany-farmers-protest-causes-nationwide-disruption/live-67913441

you didnt realise this is a thing? man you lost your german privileges

I had no idea

13:29

This channel is my news

i couldnt get to work for 3 days - was great

13:30

lots of teeworlds!

axaxa

13:30

Holy that’s intense

chillerdragon

axaxa

bayern eben

@chillerdragon: but yea I think stardew valley qualifies. Since this game is clearly also affected by the government planned changes to agriculture

13:31

Go get your shovel and sit somewhere on a street for 20 hours

pay him

chillerdragon: did you know that söder wants the wehrpflicht back

wtf no

13:33

But I mean wants and something happening is different

Zwelf

in twgame all non-tee entities have a unique id and all tees have a separate unique id pool

Oh ok

chillerdragon

@chillerdragon: but yea I think stardew valley qualifies. Since this game is clearly also affected by the government planned changes to agriculture

Did you just ping yourself?

chillerdragon

@chillerdragon: but yea I think stardew valley qualifies. Since this game is clearly also affected by the government planned changes to agriculture

I actually wanted to ask if u want to play it against me. But since u never played, would be unfair for you

I pinged you

13:36

Ye I nob

chillerdragon

I pinged you

No

And is it pvp game wtf?

You pinged urself

Image attachment

13:37

Go ping your self!

chillerdragon

And is it pvp game wtf?

No, but true capitalists battle each other in a economy game

Xd

Image attachment

Bridge Moment

Ah yeah

13:38

Probably a bug

13:38

Because u pinged the bot

Average matrix functionality

U pinged my matrix acc

13:39

That's why

@chillerdragon: Jupstar ✪ @Jupstar ✪

https://github.com/mautrix/discord/issues

Issues · mautrix/discord

A Matrix-Discord puppeting bridge. Contribute to mautrix/discord development by creating an account on GitHub.

Xdd

13:40

It even changes the name of the ping afterwards

13:40

Now it's zwelf

if anyone wants to report

I'm too lazy

I guess impossible to fix

13:40

And probably known

did someone move channels?

guys i want to use github as storage for a lot of files (each ~10mb) how i can push their and do not take up local disk space? for example delete from working directory and maybe where from .git folder? or create new branch per file, push and delete local branch and branch history?

It’s a feature

13:40

That’s the bot renames

They could at least remove the ping

chillerdragon: can you link the known issue?

Im not browsing their gh now

ah, thats why

complaining is easy, report bugs

Nah it takes time

i complain that complaining is easy

And I’m pretty sure it’s known

where do i report that

13:41

troller

Use multiple repositories

Replying to @Matodor guys i want to use github as storage for a lot of files (each ~10mb) […]

chillerdragon: will you send me 10€ if it's not and I report it?

(edited)

No I’m poor

Stfu jospri

13:44

Better fix real issues than report non bugs

13:45

For example that element shows I have a new notification at all times -.-

Sticker

Or Ryozukis message empty is

Image attachment

13:46

a sticker

Or that the preview of this channel contains a different message than the lastest

lol go is such a mess

Yes go is literally a tracking spy ware by google

13:49

Least privacy respecting language eu west

13:50

Not as cool as C and not as safe as rust

13:50

And weird nil checks

zhn

lol go is such a mess

yes rust is better

13:50

the only thing go has that rust doesnt is the goroutines

13:51

and gc

Ye I was told they pog

preemptive scheduling

i bet someone released gc for rust

Xd

13:51

As a macro

no but u cant do some stuff in rust that u can in go

13:51

cuz go gc and scheduler allow to interrupt the program at places u cant in rust

13:51

cuz it needs compiler support

ah yes

but rust is better

13:51

more perf

will anyone make a rust runtime to do go-debug xd

xd

13:52

did u hear the term debugging the past

13:52

or smth like that

13:52

time debugging

nope

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel_debugging

Time travel debugging

Time travel debugging or time traveling debugging is the process of stepping back in time through source code to understand what is happening during execution of a computer program. Typically, debugging and debuggers, tools that assist a user with the process of debugging, allow users to pause the execution of running software and inspect the cu...

13:53

https://undo.io/products/udb

UDB is the time travel debugger for C/C++ applications running on Linux. Replay execution history to inspect program state and see what happened. Quickly debug race conditions, seg faults, stackoverflow errors, double free, memory corruption, stack corruption etc.

13:53

https://firedbg.sea-ql.org/

Time Travel Visual Debugger for Rust

Time Travel Visual Debugger for Rust

frame #1

13:53

gdb has you covered

gdb cant do this iirc

rr

13:54

is what you need

13:54

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rr_(debugging)

In computing, rr is a debugging tool for Linux designed to record and replay program execution. During the replay phase, rr provides an enhanced gdb debugging experience that supports reverse execution.rr was originally developed by Mozilla to debug Mozilla Firefox on commodity hardware and software. rr is now widely used outside Mozilla and cap...

does rr work for rust

I don't know, but I'd guess so

I only need backtrace and old variables frame command can do that in gdb

since it only uses the linux syscall interface and gdb

What else would you need from the past

I used it to debug ddnet in the past

13:55

stepping back can be quite useful

13:55

to see where a function returned, e.g.

Isn’t that in the backtrace already?

no

Ah not the return I guess if there are multiple. Just where it called from

13:56

Yea I see

say a function returns nullptr

13:56

you want to figure out why

13:56

with rr, it's simple

Ye I got it

13:57

Sounds good

still want to elaborate

13:57

you go past the return, and then just step back once

Okay matrix started shuffling messages again

you see where the function returned

I go rq

chiller dont be rude, heinrich is explaining stuff to you atm

Ye ye I saw his msg

not necessarily to chillerdragon

i like the explanation

Made sense

same, sounds cool

Now I rq

just because I wanted to elaborate

never refuse to learn owo

owo

brownbear

https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge

GitHub - 42wim/matterbridge: bridge between mattermost, IRC, gitter...

bridge between mattermost, IRC, gitter, xmpp, slack, discord, telegram, rocketchat, twitch, ssh-chat, zulip, whatsapp, keybase, matrix, microsoft teams, nextcloud, mumble, vk and more with REST API...

unless its pyson

13:58

NekoEvil

also in go

13:58

time to do bridge in rust xd

yea, that project is quite nice

Ryozuki

unless its pyson

heinrich5991

yea, that project is quite nice

matterbridge goes strange if you change configurations files in wrong way

13:59

went at least

13:59

afair it printed nothing if you messed up config

didn't change configuration a lot

14:00

I guess I never ran into it

heinrich5991

with rr, it's simple

ooh, could be neat to track where a repeatedly-propagated error originally comes from in Rust

yea, stuff like that

Image attachment

14:24

do u agree

14:24

i personally say peeNgee

14:24

like in spanish

14:24

XD

Ryozuki

Click to see attachment 🖼️

do u know how to pronounce json correctly?

i say

14:26

jason

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR-f4b0G9lo

How To Pronounce JSON by Douglas Crockford

Ryozuki

Click to see attachment 🖼️

who doesnt pronounce it pe-en-gee? XD

MilkeeyCat

do u know how to pronounce json correctly?

jizzon

PepeLaugh

https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-394

Friday Facts #394 - Assembler flipping and circuit control | Factorio

Hello, let me show you another dose of things we just can't stop ourselves from doing.

BlaiZephyr | meloƞ

jizzon

PepeLaugh

jsml

go = jo because gif = jif

Ryozuki

Click to see attachment 🖼️

hard p hard n and hard g

14:36

p from project n from nails g from go

Ryozuki

i personally say peeNgee

100% wtf

14:37

ping

14:38

i also don't like klang for clang

we call it shlang

gedo for godot

what about malloc :p

shmalloc xd

m alloc

sqrt

MilkeeyCat

sqrt

square root

14:39

i dont cut it

sql ? äskiuel

Jupstar ✪

square root

ure not in the club justatest

justatest

BlaiZephyr | meloƞ

sql ? äskiuel

oh yeah i hate sequel

14:39

i call it S Q L

:D

14:39

same

Ryozuki

Click to see attachment 🖼️

This is wrong and illegal

if you pronounce sql as sequel, you have to pronounce png as pengel

more like peneg

15:09

panic

15:09

png = panic confirmed

Also gif is pronounced with a hard g, not a j

give

Learath2

Also gif is pronounced with a hard g, not a j

https://ferrous-systems.com/blog/rustls-borrow-checker-p1/

Using mem::take to reduce heap allocations

This is the first post of a series where we go through the performance work we did in rustls, a modern TLS library in Rust. Today we tame the borrow checker using mem::take.

MilkeeyCat

idk if its useful anyhow but here u go

for me it is accurate

16:59

tested with mouse sens 1

16:59

all possible angles are either going through or not

16:59

using steam client

then its my problems :\

or i am not able to reproduce it

17:02

i mean u also tried like 1 minute

MilkeeyCat

then its my problems :\

but anyway, i'd say on a local server, where client & server use the same FP calculations, it should as far as i know be accurate

17:05

and if not, ofc would be nice to fix it, but i guess it's more an accuracy problem than a missing prediction feature or whatever

then its a feature for me

MilkeeyCat

then its a feature for me

that's the spirit

17:06

bluekitty

i have a website with bunch of "features" justatest

justatest

(edited)

it's not a bug, it's a feature

MilkeeyCat

i have a website with bunch of "features" justatest

justatest

(edited)

ez

17:06

ddnet "features"

where does CQuad.m_Points[4] // pivot appears to be used?

17:17

appear*

zhn

where does CQuad.m_Points[4] // pivot appears to be used?

in graphics code you mean?

anywhere xd

17:17

i don't think server-side does anything with quads

zhn

where does CQuad.m_Points[4] // pivot appears to be used?

is it only [4] not [5]?

zhn

i don't think server-side does anything with quads

yep

struct CQuad
{
    CPoint m_aPoints[5];
    CColor m_aColors[4];
    CPoint m_aTexcoords[4];

    int m_PosEnv;
    int m_PosEnvOffset;

    int m_ColorEnv;
    int m_ColorEnvOffset;
};

server could be optimized to not load them (edited)

zhn

struct CQuad
{
    CPoint m_aPoints[5];
    CColor m_aColors[4];
    CPoint m_aTexcoords[4];

    int m_PosEnv;
    int m_PosEnvOffset;

    int m_ColorEnv;
    int m_ColorEnvOffset;
};

yeah 5 makes more sense

17:18

its the 4 corners + the mid

17:19

in maplayers it's used for rendering ofc

17:19

but u can also simply search all references

17:19

in your IDE

yeah that's what i did xd

17:19

this one goes brr void *pID = &pQuad->m_aPoints[4]; // use pivot addr as id

zhn

this one goes brr void *pID = &pQuad->m_aPoints[4]; // use pivot addr as id

ah that's fine

17:20

it accesses the 5th point as center

17:20

i dunno why it uses that as ID, but i guess that's bcs of our weird UI code

its editor code

yeah

quad rotates to its center

17:21

thats why it should be saved xd

yeah

too much for me to understand from the first look ig

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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #7830 Move 'Show name plates' from HUD to 'Name Plate'

furo — Today at 8:14 PM

or use cl_nameplates 0 image.png No clue why it's under "HUD" and not "Name Plate"

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7831 moved nameplates from hud -> nameplates

closes #7830

Checklist

[x ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#...

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7832 Ensure uses of localtime function are thread-safe

On Windows, the result of the localtime function is thread-local, hence our uses of this function are already thread-safe. On non-Windows, the localtime function is potentially not thread-safe, so the reentrant localtime_r function is used instead with a thread-local buffer for the result. Closes #7788.

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[...

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

abe6c1c moved nameplates from hud -> nameplates - BlaiZephyr 5361637 fixed placement & spacing - BlaiZephyr 93cbad4 Merge pull request #7831 from BlaiZephyr/move-nameplate-button - Robyt3

20:48

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7831 moved nameplates from hud -> nameplates

20:48

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7830 Move 'Show name plates' from HUD to 'Name Plate'

20:50

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #7833 More inconsistencies in appearance settings

More inconsistencies like #7830. The "Show chat" checkbox should be moved to the Chat tab. The "Show kill messages" checkbox should be removed, because it already exists on in the Info Messages tab. !image

20:56

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #7834 Ingame menu sometimes appears for one frame when offline before connecting

rearranging furniture xd

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