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4dff38d A Simple Down 3 - ddnet-maps

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7746 Fix dummy hammer when switching with copy moves turned on

With cl_dummy_copy_moves set to 1, if you have hammered at all and then switch dummies, your new dummy will hammer automatically. This repeats each time you switch dummies. The reason for this is that the code calculates the difference between the first and last input data; however, when switching, I guess the m_aLastData[g_Config.m_ClDummy] actually refers to the dummy, not the player (which was the player right before switching) (this is just a guess, but in my testing, it checks...

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@heinrich5991 imo the non teeworlds "run server" icon is noticible breaking style

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06:42

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06:46

and ofc the KOG logo in the browser https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1704005171.png

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06:50

oh and when you only play run like fudgy does it teeworlds client is nice since it has native race support

06:50

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06:50

a dedicated timer not messing with the gametimer

that's neat but unique race does something else

not sure if ddnet client can show such a high precision on times there might be a setting for it

06:51

thanks to furo ddnet now has all the other 0.7 niceties such as finish msgs

toggles

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06:57

chiller wanna join us in springlobe 3

06:57

someone's about to leave i think

i have no mouse xd

WDYM

06:57

how do you not have a mouse

i only have laptop w touchpad

do it anyway

im travelin

you're gores goat

xd

u forget to bring a mouse or what

i did not plan to game

06:58

and i wont

fucked up

just shittalkin on irc and a bit of codin 0.7

sad

06:59

mo has taken your spot

06:59

he is a baller

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how does china man have 50 ping

immigration

<ChillerDragon> totally worth to migrate to another ping zone

lol i mean

07:00

he already lived in the usa

<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ test5 2 months ago?!

07:03

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1704006172.png

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what is it

07:05

pg rated ddnet?

07:06

ddnet with NO GUNS

<ChillerDragon> no its ddnet written in pure postgresql

jk its jopstis ddnet2 project he talks about all the time

07:11

blazingly moddable pvp gameplay first rewritten from scratch teeworlds client written in badass rust

07:11

and pg stands for playground since it is highly experimental and work in progress

damn

07:13

what about fred's thing

07:13

not the first time i heard about a modular tw server

yea my sentence misses punctuation

07:14

"pvp gameplay first"

i believe fred's is also pvp oriented

it has no ddrace support so the "dd" and "ddnet2" is highly misleading. It was a marketing decison since "teeworlds2" does not look as cool according to jopsti

lol

07:15

damn

@Avolicious did you realize that the heated 1 week ongoing discussion at https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/7699 is happening without deen?

Forcing mods to be open-source to be included as a community · Issu...

What would you think about fostering the open-source spirit of DDNet/Teeworlds and requiring all future communities that are included to be open-source? The KoG case is special IMO and should be gr...

07:18

publishing your code does not mean you have to be assed with every single pr

07:18

or issue

07:19

also its not only deen who is explaining ppl how to fix shit in the #questions and #bugs channel

07:19

you do not need to have time to open source some yamls

07:20

you need time if you want to actively support your users yes. But that is imo not a requirement for it to be open source. Id argue it is open source as soon as the source is open as in readable to everyone.

just zoomed out

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07:21

feelin Great

zooz

07:22

ban

wat

i tell onbgy u zoozing

zoom is allowed doe

@onbgy

you're fired

reported

fired

07:27

chiller circle which part u made

oic

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wot i made a part?

07:52

Dude that map is old

07:53

axaxax ofc i sneaked block gameplay in

Lol

07:53

this is such a troll part

07:53

but we are getting laser

why c++ is so goofy-ass that won't even print cyrillic normally on windows?

wdym

08:01

use wide chars

08:02

or utf 8

i tried...

how so

well, i tried this, and also SetConsoleCP(1251) and it still prints garbage

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std::wcout << L"cyrillic string" << std::endl;

08:05

ur giving it single byte char literal

Ewan

std::wcout << L"cyrillic string" << std::endl;

nah

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Is this in teeworlds code? We should be handling unicode properly already when printed through dbg_msg. Windows console is a disgusting beast. A patchwork abomination

looks standalone

Learath2

Is this in teeworlds code? We should be handling unicode properly already when printed through dbg_msg. Windows console is a disgusting beast. A patchwork abomination

It's not, i just consider you as good samaritans who would help with general c++ problems

this seems like a cmd issue

08:09

which shell is clion using

Does your locale support russian?

u can try cmd /u iirc

08:10

or chcp something something

Learath2

Does your locale support russian?

yeah, system itself is in russian

im just gonna google it

08:10

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2849010/output-unicode-to-console-using-c-in-windows

Honestly, I never figured out how to make windows do the right thing by sticking to the standard. We just use WriteConsoleW

it's baffling that wcout is not enough

08:12

typical windows shenanigans

I remember reading that it works on newer windows if you change the codepage of the wcout stream itself

Anime.pdf

It's not, i just consider you as good samaritans who would help with general c++ problems

did u read the SO answer

08:14

give _setmode(_fileno(stdout), _O_U16TEXT); a shot

Try wcout.imbue() after your setlocale

dont u need locale param for that

Ewan

give _setmode(_fileno(stdout), _O_U16TEXT); a shot

xd

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08:17

it actually happens when i use default cout, and it also doesnt print it

erm

Ewan

u can try cmd /u iirc

didnt work

Ewan

give _setmode(_fileno(stdout), _O_U16TEXT); a shot

This also might help

may work on older windows as well

Anime.pdf

xd

Do you still have the Ls before the string literals?

yeah

Comment out the cout maybe and just try wcout

yeah, i tried and it still prints this... (edited)

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Allah willing one day windows console will support unicode without this mess

isnt hui ruski for dick?

chillerdragon

isnt hui ruski for dick?

yeah, its most common test word i guess

Xd

first thing that comes to mind owo

owo

lmao

Are you doing setlocale still?

mhm

08:23

i just will try to use WriteConsoleW

ill look once i die again

maybe make every output via my custom class monkaStop

monkaStop

currently skipping

Can you give me the string you are trying to print?

server хуй

int main()
{
    //    setlocale(LC_ALL, "Russian");
    _setmode(_fileno(stdout), _O_U16TEXT);
    
    //    wcout.imbue(std::locale());
    wprintf(L"server хуй\n");

    //    wcout << L"server хуй" << endl;

    //    std::cout << "e" << std::endl;
    return 0;
}

08:29

the following works for me

08:29

but not wcout

Common C W

Dragonball you still here?

Ewan

the following works for me

doesnt for me

08:33

im cursed i guess

Btw just don’t ever mix cout and wcout

justatest

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Anime.pdf

im cursed i guess

Have you tried on just a plain cmd?

08:34

IDEs sometimes do bizarre stuff to their terminals

oh yeah i was using mintty with fish not cmd ^^

Anyways, IMO just never use wchars

08:36

Windows is an oddball that hasn’t supported utf8 properly ever. Just do utf8 on all platforms and output utf16 to windows consoles

chillerdragon: chillerdragonball you still online?

Learath2

Have you tried on just a plain cmd?

yep

08:38

i used

    SetConsoleCP(65001);
    SetConsoleOutputCP(65001);

and it just kinda started working, but smh i get gibberish on error handling

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08:38

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lol now runtime is using the wrong locale

08:38

oih maybe i misunderstood

omg chillerdragon i have that desire to open github issues to ping you

@Anime.pdf it might be cmd /U :x

Ewan

@Anime.pdf it might be cmd /U :x

nah, printing cyrillic with cout works fine

08:42

so its something with i have no clue what

08:42

but not console already

try test6, also do rustup update before instructions from root dir: cargo build --release time ./target/release/ddnet-playground quit and then check against tw 0.7

Replying to @ChillerDragon ws-client: Jupeyy_Keks454802464411689> test5 2 months ago?!

Learath2

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/windows-command-line-unicode-and-utf-8-output-text-buffer/ I probably sent this blog post a while back but until like 2018 the console was extremely bizarre

^^

and if i don't win, kill me

i kinda love windows, but i kinda hate developing anything under windows

what kind of love do you feel for windows?

I use gentoo btw

what kind of love do you feel for gentoo

Jupstar ✪

what kind of love do you feel for windows?

i dont have to start terminal to do 99.9% of tasks

08:45

and i cant delete system

08:45

by accident

Jupstar ✪

what kind of love do you feel for gentoo

I have to start terminal to do 99.9% of tasks

Anime.pdf

i dont have to start terminal to do 99.9% of tasks

when was the last time you used a linux that is targeted for "normal" ppl?

also adobe stuff is kinda nice

Jupstar ✪

when was the last time you used a linux that is targeted for "normal" ppl?

i used fedora

08:46

mainly

08:46

for almost 2 years

08:46

it was nice

08:46

but terminal needed for at least 50% of tasks

08:46

and smth breaks

08:46

constantly

that's simply not true xD

or needs additional setting up

Jupstar ✪

that's simply not true xD

that's my honest user experience justatest

justatest

08:47

developing experience is 100% positive tho

well i gave ubuntu with gnome to ppl that i consider complete noives with computer. It's still easier than windows, bcs the ui is so slim and can't do anything useful, and the store is basically like stores for mobile phones

08:49

i'd claim ubuntu is easier than windows, if you don't do anything customizable

jupstar come play springlobe 3 swap this guy

08:49

the's leaving

i go take a shower now, then eat, then dunno

nooo

08:49

he's leaving soon

then tell him good bye from me

:c

Jupstar ✪

i go take a shower now, then eat, then dunno

What os u use?

debian

08:50

almost typed devuan just thanks to fat fingers

i use debian with KDE

08:50

i use debian bcs: i don't want to self compile as much as possible

08:50

if u give me a faster alternative with similar amount of pre compiled packages, i'd use that

08:50

but arch has WAY too many AUR packages

08:50

and gentoo is nogo for me xd

Jupstar ✪

i use debian bcs: i don't want to self compile as much as possible

I love updating packages for 6 hours. I have much time to think bout life and such

i want it simple and still powerful xd

debian is based

To have dev role any commit has to be merged or only useful for ddnet client one justatest

justatest

lynn had dev role after commiting "changing comments in code to gender-neutral" or smth like that

08:55

greenthing

when's ur shower man

Anime.pdf

lynn had dev role after commiting "changing comments in code to gender-neutral" or smth like that

So i can commit use capital letters at the beginning of the sentences and will be a dev

08:58

Gud

Ewan

when's ur shower man

Now, wanna join?

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monkaS

love this part

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How secure is uploading a .kdbx file on GitHub with ~30 chars master password thonk

thonk

justatest

i mean

09:01

very secure

09:01

but less secure than not uploading it

I think if i don't upload it somewhere ill lose it eventually

why github

09:03

and not private drive or smth

MilkeeyCat

How secure is uploading a .kdbx file on GitHub with ~30 chars master password thonk

thonk

The biggest problem is that it has to timeout. So you can brutally brute force it

09:12

No timeout

justatest

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Jupstar ✪

The biggest problem is that it has to timeout. So you can brutally brute force it

Imagine someone spending time to get MilkeeyCat's passwords

Anime.pdf

lynn had dev role after commiting "changing comments in code to gender-neutral" or smth like that

thought she made some web changes

louis

thought she made some web changes

i followed only main repo changes ngl

that being said pls send dev role

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That works better than pinging in this channel. Because i have no notifications for this channel. I have github mobile notfications active. Feel free to create issues here to ping me https://github.com/ChillerDragon/github-meta

Replying to Jupstar ✪ omg chillerdragon i have that desire to open github issues to ping you

how was ur shower jupstar

Use nixOS

Replying to @Jupstar ✪ and gentoo is nogo for me xd

09:37

In 5yrs a 12yo skid with quantom phone can crack it in 60 seconds

Replying to @MilkeeyCat Imagine someone spending time to get MilkeeyCat's passwords

09:39

Sefa: @Scrumplex help sell nix. You said something about binaries. With jopsti you have potential customer

chillerdragonball: did u test now?

nix rocks

nix is german for nothing so u said nothing rocks

09:39

xd

Jupstar ✪

The biggest problem is that it has to timeout. So you can brutally brute force it

Does this not use a slow kdf?Z

chillerdragon: what did i do to those 12yo kiddos

Actually bruteforcing the 256 bits that make up the actual encryption key should be of no concern, it won’t happen in the lifetime of our universe unless aes has a secret weakness

MilkeeyCat

justatest

def inaccurate xdd i think this is ok website https://bitwarden.com/password-strength/

Password Tester | Test Your Password Strength | Bitwarden

Bitwarden offers the most trusted password tester tool to ensure your password strength will protect your online information. This free password strength tester is secure and easy to use. Test your passwords and explore the latest best practices to protect your online information.

Learath2

Does this not use a slow kdf?Z

what i meant is, there is no limit of parallelization additionally he already said the pw is 30 chars xd

Teero

def inaccurate xdd i think this is ok website https://bitwarden.com/password-strength/

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wtf

09:43

what is your pass?

yes pls tell me ur password

Jupstar ✪

what i meant is, there is no limit of parallelization additionally he already said the pw is 30 chars xd

I mean with a kdf even if you were to massively parallelize it will be agonizingly slow

Learath2

I mean with a kdf even if you were to massively parallelize it will be agonizingly slow

yeah i mean i wont expect him to get hacked anyway, bcs he has no money

Tru

Teero

what is your pass?

how to write ` in between two other ?

MilkeeyCat

how to write ` in between two other ?

wat? (edited)

Im in da zoo

Replying to @Jupstar ✪ chillerdragonball: did u test now?

Teero

what is your pass?

6lX5}506jKoPT|[_`G82^SKaO?)t:;

Didnt bring laptop

MilkeeyCat

6lX5}506jKoPT|[_`G82^SKaO?)t:;

hope you dont have it memorized

chillerdragon

Im in da zoo

wtf, stop zoos

09:45

evil

chillerdragon

Im in da zoo

you see ape?

? Watafak u talkin

Replying to @MilkeeyCat chillerdragon: what did i do to those 12yo kiddos

Teero

hope you dont have it memorized

ill generate new and will memorize it

Yes i see ape

MilkeeyCat

ill generate new and will memorize it

no no dont generate new

09:46

current is ok!

chillerdragon

Yes i see ape

chillerdragon: u were saying that 12yo kids with quantom phone can crack my password in 60 seconds

A those. Ye they just bored and want to steal your coin

Replying to @MilkeeyCat chillerdragon: what did i do to those 12yo kiddos

Wasn't it pretty much settled that passphrases are better than random passwords and are infinitely more memorizable

Learath2

Wasn't it pretty much settled that passphrases are better than random passwords and are infinitely more memorizable

just memorize the page number of a dictionary and then thats your pass

chillderdragon: they better to and hack yter first https://github.com/ThePrimeagen/ansible/tree/master/auth_codes

How do you remember that? You type it manually?

Replying to @MilkeeyCat 6lX5}506jKoPT|[_`G82^SKaO?)t:;

german words also help

09:49

they are in no crack dictionary

09:49

xd

chillerdragon

How do you remember that? You type it manually?

why not

justatest

There are better langs than ger for passwords

Sprinkle in just a couple special characters in there and it should be impossible to bruteforce in any sane timeframe

whats the lowest amount of chars you go that are centuries safe?

09:51

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What's a character?

09:52

You mean bytes in UTF-8 or what exactly are we counting? ö = 2 bytes

a

09:52

is a character

09:53

æ is also a character

09:53

okay website inaccurate xd

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thonk

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u can also add emojis in passwords

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09:57

hmm yes very easy to crack

Dude milkeey how do you remember that password?? tell me!! Do you enter such a beast by hand?!

09:58

Everytime you need to access a pw

maybe a crack-like emoji is harder to crack:

Xd

can i use an image like a file needed to open keepass database justatest

justatest

no it seems not

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You can base64 any image

10:00

Thats actaully a cool idea

10:00

Imagine you use a publicly available image as pass

justatest

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chillderdragon: YEP

Then you just need access to a base64 tool

thats what ive thought about

Sounds good to me

10:01

Dude thats genius

10:01

I might do that

yea just drag and drop your pass image straight into that tty0

so take img of this:

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10:02

encode as base64

10:03

and then u have strong PW?

Its not very unique image

10:03

Better use something that is not a standard emoji

it has a very small white thing on top

10:03

and it has grey background like discord

Maybe instagram pic of your favrite tiktoker

i want to see you cracking it xd

Then it suddenly is behind auth wall and you need the image to auth

10:04

gg

it works with .jpg as well justatest

justatest

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Dude imagine you can just auth on any airport pc with a fakin 512 long password from duckduckgo images in 2 seconds

dragon: can u pls stop zoosing

I am in a mall now

10:05

Ok i put phone away ill test ur stuff later

ping me

10:05

else i overread

chillerdragon

Dude imagine you can just auth on any airport pc with a fakin 512 long password from duckduckgo images in 2 seconds

https://xkcd.com/1683/

xkcd: Digital Data

lmao yea then you are fucked. It has to be some statically served source. I assume the ddnet logo would be a good candidate. Or any png file tracked in the Git history of a big enough project

Replying to @Robyt3 https://xkcd.com/1683/

chillerdragon: tee skin

Could also base64 encode or shasum a specific code file

10:13

Heck or use straight up commit hashes

10:14

Guys please never try to login to my instagram with the 0.7 commit hash

chillderdragon: so u wanna use it as passwords for websites, not as a pass for a program which gives you access to other passwords?

who made this bullshit

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No as password manager password i guess

10:16

And then publisj the password manager data

oh oke

Publish it as image ofc

ChillerDragon

you need time if you want to actively support your users yes. But that is imo not a requirement for it to be open source. Id argue it is open source as soon as the source is open as in readable to everyone.

But as I said, if we would open source the gameserver itself, we would have to open source all other moving parts aswell, because without them, KoG doesnt run

Yes

10:23

I was talking abljt tjat avo

10:23

Publish everything wjere is the issue ?

10:24

@Avolicious

I am not going to open source my terraform and ansible files

Why???

chillerdragon

Sefa: @Scrumplex help sell nix. You said something about binaries. With jopsti you have potential customer

NixOS is cool indeed! But Jupstar said that it should be simple and powerful. I don't think that's the case with NixOS

10:25

(It's quite complex)

chillerdragon

Why???

To complex for people to adopt

Dont worr ablut that

10:26

Jzst publish it

I do worry about that

And dont explain and support it

xD

Why do yoz worry ablut that

10:26

Just clikc the one toggle from private to public and call it done

10:26

I dont see a problem

Imagine you go to a store and buy something, after you get the item you received the seller doesnt answer any question anymore but he is the only one who understands how things work

You dont buy open dource

10:26

It free

^

No, open source comes with active maintenance, support and other important parts

10:27

its not free

No

@Avolicious you shouldn't fear that your code is too bad to publish. We've all written and seen worse code, no matter what

Yes

Then dont open src

10:27

Just publish the code

Jupstar ✪

@Avolicious you shouldn't fear that your code is too bad to publish. We've all written and seen worse code, no matter what

It is actually that bad, that we dont use mysql anymore

u use webscale mongodb?

No, we export data via protobuf and in our event-driven backend it will be inserted/selected from/into cockroachdb

How would you call it if there is just public code and nothing else? Just do that

Replying to @Avolicious No, open source comes with active maintenance, support and other importa…

MilkeeyCat

u use webscale mongodb?

troll

chillerdragon

How would you call it if there is just public code and nothing else? Just do that

I would call it bad experience, because if I do have questions who to ask for?

Ask you

10:31

You say i dont answer

10:31

Done

10:31

I do the same for chillerbot half of the time

he just puts excuses

Ryozuki

he just puts excuses

You are right, I fear the time after being open source

i know, nothing to fear

i think with this proposition you literally have to provide zero code maintenance beyond what you'd do close source

10:35

let your code be shitty in public

10:35

it's already shitty in private

10:36

and then at least ur players can have some peace of mind

i also know many devs dont use gpl because they think their code will be used by some company and get rich but the only thing it happens is the company gets rich

Ewan

it's already shitty in private

Oh wow, so now you say that ddnet devs do shitty code?

Why?

Replying to @Avolicious You are right, I fear the time after being open source

Avolicious

Oh wow, so now you say that ddnet devs do shitty code?

everyone does sometimes. but not that's not what i was saying

Ewan

everyone does sometimes. but not that's not what i was saying

Well, we just removed parts from ddnet and replace them with event-driven features. So its mostly your(ddnets) code (edited)

Avolicious

It is actually that bad, that we dont use mysql anymore

i thought with this u were onboard with ur code sucking

10:38

not trying to get into a catfight about how bad ur code is when we cant even see it

10:38

if hypothetically it was bad code

10:38

it would still be bad code behind closed doors

You can read it for sure, but you cant use it without setting up all needed microservices

10:40

Anyways, you can host our maps on normal ddnet servers too. The most important feature to use sv_no_weak_hook

yea rly wondering why springlobe 3 doesn't have that on rn

wtf is wrong with tunezone prediction using jetpack on springlobe 3 xD

10:48

tune jetpack always been buggy i feel like

i like the moonwalk feature tho

true

Yea im giving up on the dicussion. @Avolicious i feel like you do not want to go open source.

just upload source.tar.gz in this channel

10:56

then u dont need to maintain

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7747 Propagate unknown UUID-based map items in map tools

Change the CDataFileReader::GetItem function so instead of returning type -1 for unknown UUID-based map items it registers the unknown UUID with the UUID manager and returns a new type for the unknown UUID that can later be used to write the unknown UUID-based map items back to maps with CDataFileWriter. The additional checks for invalid map item types in the map tools are removed again, as this should not happen anymore. Closes #7701.

Checklist

[X] Tested the change in...

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dragon: walk faster bro xd

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7748 Editor: fix input corners when editing value selector

It is a rather small change but I think this looks way better. Before: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/assets/13364635/680555db-1fcc-4d3c-88ec-a84afae269fc After: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/assets/13364635/d73d3aea-dbb7-4006-8335-4506b5d3f3d0

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[x] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added cove...

[ddnet/ddnet-discordbot] Pull request opened: #69 Some fixes, changes and one addition

Addition: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-discordbot/commit/5dde7d28946993744095e72a00c1bbf593b46d4f The rest are just some minor fixes and changes.

11:19

[ddnet/ddnet-discordbot] Pull request opened: #70 Teeguesser: Geoguesser but with DDNet maps!

Discord Mini-game event soonTM

Ewan

who made this bullshit

i got from the last hooks to the beginning on this part lmao

like u got sent back?

11:20

brutal

11:20

jupstar first tried it feelsbadman

feelsbadman

Ewan

like u got sent back?

yeah

11:23

cause jupstar is a bores player lol

have u seen him

11:24

he’s nuts

11:24

he did that on 30000 ping and I don’t think arrows are predicted

11:24

he had a little tussle with some

11:24

but lived

they are predicted

11:24

yeah i touched them on one part, but it had enough time to react

when i touch them when lagging it feels like they aren’t

11:26

i played spongebob 2 in china

11:26

that was not fun

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

c5e0982 Update Staff Page - murpii

Ewan

when i touch them when lagging it feels like they aren’t

*on high ping

https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/TY

11:29

watafak wasm

11:29

i dont want wasm jopsti

11:30

@Jupstar ✪ jopstibobsti

i think it's bedtime

timezone moment

yea

when u do new years?

new years

11:34

the night of new years eve

11:34

so later today

11:34

but i dont think we are doing anything

nob

why nob

idk

11:35

lazy negatviity

11:35

to trol heinrich

xd

jopsti nice expirience

11:38

0m0.001s

11:39

https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/DT

11:39

axaxaxaxax

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

454b4e4 Respect corners when doing edit box when rendering value selector - archimede67 caeebaf Merge pull request #7748 from archimede67/fix-editor-value-selector-input-corners - Robyt3

11:45

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7748 Editor: fix input corners when editing value selector

I almost installed systemd hypervomit

hypervomit

on my computer

12:13

I forgot archlinux does not respect it’s users enough to let them pick their own init system and makes the choice for them, the wrong choice at that

lol

12:13

u can use non systemd init systems on arch?

@Learath2 stop

12:14

go back to gentoo

No, sadly systemd is a parasitic disease, it infects all other software so that any attempt to run a systemd free arch is impossible

i quite like systemd

But alas it’s not hopeless, the guys at artix linux provide a un-systemdified version of it

@Learath2 i once argued vs a systemd guy

12:15

he brought up the problem with PID files on openrc

Ryozuki

go back to gentoo

This sad excuse for a computer can’t compile it’s own packages sadly

@Learath2 cant u use ur main computer or smth

12:15

distcc

Ryozuki

@Learath2 cant u use ur main computer or smth

My main computer is a thousand km away

Ryozuki

he brought up the problem with PID files on openrc

He googled that just to have something to say. Pidfile races are exceedingly rare, it’s like saying systemd can crash if a cosmic ray caused a bitflip in the right place

12:21

The proper proper way to do this is to have a supervisor. That’s not how systemd does it either btw

12:22

But ofc that’s not a problem, these people enchanted by Poettering will go to insane mental gymnastics to excuse any issue in systemd

jopsti

12:22

lerato

12:22

zilera

12:22

heino

fokki

hall

12:23

o

no nick for me?

12:23

im saddened

ryozoozki

owo

12:24

happy new year to everyone

12:25

(only devs) (edited)

foggo

1

happy new year

12:27

ChillerDragon

foggo

that was close to smth else XD

Dude

12:34

these guys outside with the rockets

heard something similar but it was probably not fireworks

12:35

gunshots most likely

3

cleveland?

12:35

lol

12:35

no not ohio

imagine living in ohio

federal heights colorado

1

1

1

12:41

couldnt

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12:47

my web aint doing bad isnt it

damn nice

12:50

ur getting scraped real nice

sometimes ur a dick

12:52

or maybe im in bad mood xd

12:52

this is with ignore crawlers of goaccess

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sorry

but

12:53

i dont receive cached requests

12:53

so obv less

12:53

or idk

chillerdragon: u here?

12:58

i dunno if u already noticed but u used wrong branch

ChillerDragon

https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/DT

troll

zilly

13:02

silly dregon

i did not

ah there u are

13:12

was about to ping u on github

xd

checkout test6

13:12

u used old version

my router is so weird

13:12

port forwarding simply doesnt work

13:12

im saddened

run it two times, bcs the first run compiles shaders, second should be the fast run then

i have my gentoo server ready

13:13

+ dyndns with cloudflare

Ryozuki

port forwarding simply doesnt work

maybe ur ISP forbids it?

13:14

dragon: u still alive?

Some ISPs block specific, well-known ports like 80, 443, or 25 so you can use your own like 8080, 4430, or 2525.

13:16

oh rly? xd

jopsti chill im in a bar now xd

man u really trolln me

dw i brought my laptop

13:17

its compilin

lmao

13:17

tw in bar

13:17

that's the spirit

ofc

13:17

if bar tender stops starring at me i might do a short clip w ma phone

13:18

dood building rust is such a bloat

13:18

when suckless tw client

idk if thats it

no, it's just wasm runtime + compiler

13:18

it's sadly not the fastest xD

panic

13:19

average rust app

13:20

crashing

where did u run cargo

on the test2 branch

rust is used in a lot of good things but i've never seen a stable desktop app made in rust

jk root of test6 branch

show err pls

https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/5P

13:21

i use debian BTW

Ewan

rust is used in a lot of good things but i've never seen a stable desktop app made in rust

? xd

lmao

13:21

it crashes in vulkan driver

13:21

wtf is your laptop

i use nvidia

dats so fucking cool

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yo quick question since i cant test rn. does piping into lolcat work in tty?

Ryozuki

? xd

? xd

https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/e7

chiller: well ok, then i dunno. rest in peace

rip chiler

ChillerDragon

https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/e7

i wish

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works on jopsti machine

yeah dunno, i don't want to exclude the possibility that it's a bug, but it's a really unexpected error

<ChillerDrago> good job @MilkeeyCat

one that a validation layer should easily catch

13:24

ok so no testing with chiller anymore

13:24

xd

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wtf

@heinrich5991 look at the "good job @milkeeycat" message

13:25

also heinrich let me know when i should stop sending you matrix bugs

13:26

once you asked wat bugs matrix has and ever since i send u all matrix bugs xd

MilkeeyCat

dats so fucking cool

also u can use closures here gigachad

gigachad

<ChillerDragon> gigachad

gigachad

chiller u also have intel gpu right?

yea dont ask me how to select gpu pls

13:28

bumbleebee novovouse hybrid gnome gpu tools

VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/lvp_icd.x86_64.json lvp must be replaced by your intel one

13:28

env var

watfak is my env var

VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/intel_icd.x86_64.json

ok

VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/intel_icd.x86_64.json ./target/release/ddnet-playground

it does exist

13:29

indeed

13:29

intel json on ma machine

13:29

werks

13:30

ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ

13:30

OMG

13:30

H

13:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ

Linus Torvalds: Nvidia, Fuck You!

so it starts u wanted to say?

yes

nice

13:30

mesa drivers best

https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/wP

13:31

amazing we got "wP" paste

13:31

thanks paste service

13:31

we did indeed play well

try again

13:31

first start doesnt count

its 2nd

ah ok

13:31

fuck only 0.2s faster than vanilla

3rd actually

13:31

2nd was 0.48

yeah yeah

13:33

ok one more thing

13:34

open: ~/.config/ddnet/cfg_engine.json and change "bench": false -> true

13:34

and start again

https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/UD

thanks

13:36

wow sound so slow for u

13:37

and opening window slow af. i bet it's gnome

do it raw xorg

i dont have power at the bar

13:37

so my laptop might be in battery saving mode

openbox

lol

13:37

yeah yeah fine

13:38

i'm glad it's faster than vanilla already

13:38

considering it does like 5x more in the setup

i tested vanilla w power plugged in

and still slower

13:38

13:38

for me it starts in <100ms btw

13:38

that's my goal

u have nasa pc bro

i'd love to know on your desktop

13:39

it should be 70% faster CPU wise

yea not sure if i have time to test on my desktop anytime soon

chillerdragon: i give you one more tip, press LAN tab, press connect

13:40

but don't give me feedback how unfinished everything is

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7749 Fix crash on editor autosave, add system method timestamp_from_str

When working on editor related features and having a debugger attached, I often got an exception after a few minutes of having it open. I then found out that this happened consistantly when the editor tried to autosave a new map. This is likely due to #7712 which changed how timestamps work. The issue is the computed timestamp in CFileCollection which is not a UNIX timestamp, so when using it with a method that takes a UNIX timestamp, it throws an error. In this PR I fixed this issue ...

history ded

13:41

how to launch again

13:41

VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/intel_icd.x86_64.json ./target/release/ddnet-playground

13:41

got it

wat pc u have chilleroidongus

laptop or desktop?

dunno

dunno

which one do u wanna share

both

then what specs

wait share as in we use it both?

Lol

13:42

yea let me remote into ur laptop

i just send specs of ma laptop

where

13:42

me not read

some paste

13:43

my desktop i for sure also send specs to flex

i finish 1 insane and 3 brutal maps tonight and my brain is over

13:43

send flex specs

https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/e7

13:43

dis ma laptop

13:43

its some few years old razer laptop

13:43

i rly love it

13:44

its also showcased on ma yt xd

13:44

and my desktop is 2nd best single core cpu 32gb ram and a 4090 lel

nice

13:45

for some reason i thought those wwre someone else’s specs

jopsti

i remember seeing them

how to press connect

the button

which

13:46

Embedded image

13:47

LMAO

13:47

a dude walked into a glass door

13:47

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxD

u opened the unfinished console

13:47

i meant the UI button

yea cuz idk how to use uis

13:48

i see no ui button other than quit and refresh

quit?

ah its not quit

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it just crashed earlier i guess xD

it's even green like in ddnet

i thought thats the quit button lmao

13:48

omg it doesnt load my ddnet binds

troll

imagine hooking on right click

13:49

unplayable

13:49

but nice fps

13:49

dude even chat

13:49

can i join actaual tw servers?

everything extremly broken

13:49

xdd

13:49

huge troll

dude thats really impressive

it's 100% not compatible

13:50

scoreboard is also beta

13:50

and connecting many dummies is beta too

looks like csgo

CS2

13:50

xD

how do i make it connect to a tw server?

jup when make client win

well only the blur is stolen

if f1 connect doesnt work

xoixioxoixiox

bro u cant connect to tw servers

13:51

it's not compatible

i wanna try

13:51

and see wat happens in wireshark

it uses QUIC

13:51

it wont work

oh

13:51

that bad

13:51

ok nvm then xd

Ewan

jup when make client win

what is win?

13:51

windows?

?

13:51

a

13:52

Ewan xd

13:52

windows ooser

no

13:52

win like victory

jopsti so u plan to break protocol?

i don't plan to be compatible to anything xD

woah

ok only exception are:

map format will be loadable(even tho it's converted)
database must be compat
physics should feel same

yea firing weapons

13:54

is interesting

dont shoot shotgun

13:54

huge fps drops

i noticed

13:55

i keep trying to hook with w

13:55

i need binds

13:55

gj on the physics btw jopsti

13:56

zwelf would be proud

it's broken

13:56

i refactored it lately xd

wot

somehow broke strong hook

i didnt notice anything

connect dummy

yea i can not hook without binds

13:58

touchpad is cursed

13:58

omagawd console autocomplete doesn towkr

13:58

ok ye enuff dd2

13:59

but cool stuff jospti

not really cool, unfinished since months :/

13:59

with that speed, team zwelf and patiga wins

axaxax 2v1

14:00

rust wars

14:01

idk if they even intend to do the same thing

14:01

@Zwelf @Patiga reveal ur goals

14:01

i think patiga wanted to do some demo renderer

just realized someone made me purple

14:02

owo

??

yeah zwelf has almost finished ddnet physics

14:02

just copy paste

14:02

or use his crate

license

14:03

:/

wot

he uses AGPL

wat u want

i dunno, same license as ddnet? xd

lawyer jopsti momment

i can copy and paste by brain instead of hotkey

14:04

then it's legal

its nearing end

14:07

time to do next year jokes

14:07

i wont code in rust till next year

14:07

i wont code in cpp till next year

14:08

i wont use git till next year

i have been doing next year jokes for week dude

14:08

weeks*

14:09

also why rq coding today

14:09

perfect day to do some 0.7 coding

The uefi firmware on macbooks are so finnicky

i wont use a mac till next year

uefi is always annoying

Chiller how do u get money

wat my job is?

14:44

i rather not disclose that

14:45

i quit anyways

14:45

i am unemployed currently o.O

chilllerdragon: you can be full time ddnet influencer

i am

14:47

but doesnt pay the bills sadly

do you farm goats

yes

i see i see

ChillerDragon

perfect day to do some 0.7 coding

perfect day to allow 0.7 to die

happy

15:09

When will we be blessed with a en_EU.UTF-8 locale

15:11

I keep having to use IE

ChillerDragon

uefi is always annoying

Ngl I've been enjoying uefi lately. It's much more streamlined than the legacy bios boot path. But the downside is you are more at the mercy of the people who wrote the efi firmware

i still need both for compatability ;(

16:36

running arch from external m.2

uefi is a OS itself

16:36

it has graphics capabilities

16:36

there is software for uefi

Ryozuki

i wont code in rust till next year

BRO HOW

16:38

i code in this right moment

16:38

discovery of the year(i found out this today): u can change workspaces in i3 by scrolling

lmao u didnt know? xd

no

16:50

i always use keyboard

Who uses x11 nowadays trol

trol

I use X11 BTW

16:51

wayland borked

I use hyprland which uses wayland

i try wayland every few months and hate that smth is broken with it

17:04

17:04

chillerdragon: are u already drunk?

soon

i just have to ask him for some promises that are easier to get through if his attention for what he promised is very low (edited)

Learath2

Actually bruteforcing the 256 bits that make up the actual encryption key should be of no concern, it won’t happen in the lifetime of our universe unless aes has a secret weakness

mathematically, it works, physically it's vulnerable to a lot of attacks

Im sober and probably sleeping at 11

Replying to @Jupstar ✪ chillerdragon: are u already drunk?

fak, u outplayed me

17:13

400 IQ person

wot how

i waited for this moment the whole year (edited)

Wat u do?

17:14

???

i needed your promise when you are the weakest

17:14

i thought u drunk on silvester

Oh yea you had pretty weak spots previous silvesters

17:15

You had me at weak spots i mean

17:15

But this year it chill

17:15

You drunk already?

i got 20€ sake kek

i dont drink alc

but for later

no way

but ill buy more stuff

Jopsti no alc ever?

friends coming

No coffee?

17:16

No meat?

chillerdragon: yes no alc, no coffe, no meat, no cola, no ice tea

Dude you wanna get 200 years old or what?

love & air

17:16

now i sound like some 1970 hippie

You do

17:17

Do you at least smoke?

xDDDDDD

Not even nicotine patches?

17:17

Kautabak?

xD

Sparkling water????

urgh

17:18

ofc not

jesus

only stilles mineralwasser

Do you go clubbing?

absolutely not

17:19

i only meet with friends privatly

But you eat carbs right?

certainly

17:20

without them u die

Bread and water

17:20

U in jail?

bread are carbs

Yes

ah you meant it like that

17:20

well aren't we all in jail

deep

17:20

U sure u sober?

17:20

U sniff glu?

17:21

Vape weed?

17:21

Eat shrooms?

Health is top prio for me

woah

17:21

Do you do daily exercise?

Without that I can't achieve some stuff I need to do

Wat u need to do?

chillerdragon

Do you do daily exercise?

Well I usually drive bicycle

chillerdragon

Wat u need to do?

Stuff

Want promise did u need? 0.0

I need your YouTube channel reach

For wat

17:30

Also there is no reach xd

To win against zwelf,patiga,Heinrich, learath,ryo & voxel

voxel rq lerato has major depressions heinrich is busy muting people and do patiga and zwelf even want to compete?

xddd

17:32

zwelf has entire physics

I dunno. But I need competition. Else I have no motivation

teehistorian too

But sure go ahead if you have a video asking for ddnet2 collaborators i can upload it

And I need to win for my ego

chillerdragon

But sure go ahead if you have a video asking for ddnet2 collaborators i can upload it

Nice

But im too lazy to make one for you i think

No need

17:34

I'll create it

kdenlive best

Soon... End of next year latest xdd

For u kde fanboi

Else I rq everything

Oof

Yeah. Thanks for yearly deep talk

17:38

Cya next year

good nite

Chairn

mathematically, it works, physically it's vulnerable to a lot of attacks

Mostly side channel stuff though, no?

lerato

not only

17:39

it has mathematical failure with errored computation

17:40

it is vulnerable to differential attacks where ony cipher is wrong and one is correct

yo btw clientside pred is freaking out when another player vibrates their hook

happy new years

17:47

and do get drunk

17:47

tomorrow hangover day

17:47

kek

Ryozuki

tomorrow hangover day

nooo

17:59

You haven't done your monthly commit

17:59

You still have 5 hrs left

17:59

Gogo speedrun

i wont code till next year

do not forget to update ddnet client theme

18:03

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I have on auto

wowo

18:04

do you also have autosave in your code editor? axaxax

18:04

and auto jump in minecraft?

18:04

and auto aim assist for ddnet?

18:04

and auto os updates?

18:04

ok i stop xd

auto correct on phone?

yes turning that off was life changing :D

18:08

I did on Wed, 27 Dec 2023

thats why any time when u type i think ure either drunk or high or both at the same time (edited)

11:23:30 bridge | chillerdragon: I could write fakin code on my ohone now

ChillerDragon

wowo

it's called seasons in UI but in code it's "auto" ^^

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19:59

@Ryozuki some final rust coding before i walk to my sister's home all before year ended

19:59

new year is a season

cyberFighter

new year is a season

yeah i celebrate the new year the whole year

tf was that discussion about going opensource

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