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Between 2023-12-30 00:00:00Z and 2023-12-31 00:00:00Z

kek

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

aef2aed A Tentrom - ddnet-maps

quakenet moment

mustard

i have an idea @Davide !!!!!!!!!!!!!

06:50

i think my browser cached fakin ger10.ddnet.org and never made an request

06:50

i had the same on fokkos server now and it for the life of it would not whitelist me so i did it via curl and it worked

06:50

idk why i even used the browser in the first place

06:51

maybe some js fetch() call could avoid caching

I managed to get a reproducible crashbug in my cursed dev env. Its butchered data folder custom client custom server 0.7 map. I would just ignore it but if someone is interested here is the backtrace https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/js

ok nvm that bug was alr fixed in latest ddnet i was running some old stuff on ma laptop. Was caused by the 0.7 map loading i guess

0.7 always the problem

08:00

remove

ChillerDragon

i think my browser cached fakin ger10.ddnet.org and never made an request

You can send HTTP headers which signal to the browser that it shouldn’t cache the page

08:07

Smth like this iirc

08:07

Cache-Control: no-store, must-revalidate

or just control f5

well no shit

08:12

but why do u expect the user to do that

08:12

that is not setting anyone up for success

sometimes ur a bit douche

08:13

i never said anything about that

08:13

i was talking about chiller

08:13

idk if douche is a word xd

GoodMorning

honkmorning

08:20

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Ryozuki

i was talking about chiller

o i see

08:46

we have reply feature

08:46

hopefully u see how ur comment could be seen as dumb if it was in response to what i said lol

I use curl BTW

Replying to @Ryozuki i was talking about chiller

Ewan

hopefully u see how ur comment could be seen as dumb if it was in response to what i said lol

ah xd i dont reply to chillerdragon comments because i think he doesnt see them

feelsbadman

ryo respecting da irc oosers

10:16

pog

10:16

i see replies on da phone

10:16

at least i see "reply to (null)" xd

the ddnet is well made

10:19

the code makes sense

10:19

i like it

wat

yes jopsti ddnet code nice

10:24

stop hating it already

10:26

@Ryozuki i dont get ur meme u posted 2040 is further away -.-

10:27

also no memes in #developer

10:27

thats a bannable offense

10:27

only irc users alre allowed to write offtopic stuff or post memes in #developer

ChillerDragon

@Ryozuki i dont get ur meme u posted 2040 is further away -.-

??

until heinrich also bridges #off-topic to irc

did u read

i cant read

it says 2040 is closer

but it isnt

2950 is also closer than 2014

how

10:28

closer to what

oh true

i dont get it

lmao

10:29

i cant read

trol xd

why did i see this meme lol

ryo got scammed by date propaganda

xDDD

xddd

0.7 is closer than 0.6

10:31

think about that

not rly

closer to being removed? i agree

0.6.5 is closer to 7 than to 6

10:31

idk

is there a math thing

10:32

is 1 closer to 0 or 2

closer to 2

10:32

2 is the future

10:33

im too lazy to google

10:33

my dns is broken

10:33

ok fuck it who needs dns

10:33

enuff irc trolling for today

ChillerDragon

yes jopsti ddnet code nice

yes jopsti ddnet code nice

You mean code like this chiller? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/9c8a081692599b4f246f61a0ed925d9a8d6842f0/src/game/server/gamecontext.cpp#L154C2-L155

beautiful

10:34

only way it could be nicer would be rewriting it in modern java

10:35

okay those lines actually are a bit trol

10:35

looks still like pro C++ code to me

10:36

also thanks for irc friendly reply jopstibobsti UwU

10:37

ok now i rly close irc. I clearly have an irc addiction.

this code is so much: "I am a c dev, i know what i am doing" "Just because you find it unintuitive, doesn't mean it's bad" xd

Ryozuki

is 1 closer to 0 or 2

we round *up at .5/50% so it’d be 2 but really it’s arbitrary and silly and it’s equally far (edited)

Jupstar ✪

yes jopsti ddnet code nice

You mean code like this chiller? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/9c8a081692599b4f246f61a0ed925d9a8d6842f0/src/game/server/gamecontext.cpp#L154C2-L155

who has the placement new fetish

10:45

i already seen it for the kernel or client (idr which)

10:45

why is it being written this way

what is the best way to convert hls color to int ?

look how the color picker did it xd

for what

int ColorFeet = ColorHSLA(m_ColorFeet).UnclampLighting().Pack(ms_DarkestLGT7); ha ?

looks like it

i prefer rewrite the function myself, it sound more simple

wdym

10:48

don’t

10:48

that is the best way

it calls 3 functions to convert

unclamp light is, if u want your color not be very dark

10:50

i dunno what the darkestlgt7 does tho

რილია

it calls 3 functions to convert

but what exactly is wrong with 3 functions?

Jupstar ✪

but what exactly is wrong with 3 functions?

why isn't it like ColorFeet = ColorHSLA(255,255,255);

bcs ColorHSLA is not a int

10:52

it's a wrapper for HSL + alpha

it's feet color, what alpha doing there ?

u can leave the unclamplighting out, if you want dark colors

10:52

feet can also be transparent

10:53

just call it with a forth argument

10:53

but anyway, if u want it simpler. create an operator overload for int

10:53

then u can do what u want

Jupstar ✪

but anyway, if u want it simpler. create an operator overload for int

let me study that

how about this ?

__int8 hud;
__int8 sat;
__int8 lig;
__int8 alp;
int hsla[4] = {hud, sat, lig, alp};

11:10

boyeeeee

11:11

__int8 is 8 bit integers

Jupstar ✪

i dunno what the darkestlgt7 does tho

0.7 has a different darkest lgt value allowed for skins, so you need to rescale

11:13

The 3 function calls are trivial, I'm 90% sure any competent compiler won't even bother with a function and inline them

რილია

how about this ?

__int8 hud;
__int8 sat;
__int8 lig;
__int8 alp;
int hsla[4] = {hud, sat, lig, alp};

how can i assemble and access it tho ?

11:15

i have skill issue in c++

learn then

i'm learning here

search on google

11:17

how cpp classes and structs work

11:17

it will be more efficient for u

11:17

and us

ask chatgpt

xd

Jupstar ✪

ask chatgpt

can't access it in iran

skill issue

start revolution

they block all the iran phone numbers

Ryozuki

it will be more efficient for u

i don't ask here so you can post meme

wat xd

imagine yielding ur phone num to ai anyways

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/12/29/france-warns-very-high-terrorism-threat-new-years-eve/

France warns of ‘very high’ terror threat on New Year’s Eve

Total of 90,000 police officers and gendarmes will be deployed throughout the country during celebrations

11:21

careful out there

Ryozuki

Click to see attachment 🖼️

ah yes, the usual maths on internet

12:14

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38806270

Vinnl

In 2024, please switch to Firefox

yeah switch to firefox, the browser that is always 10 years behind in features xD

რილია

they block all the iran phone numbers

Buy virtual number and use VPN

Jupstar ✪

yeah switch to firefox, the browser that is always 10 years behind in features xD

such as?

"it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. " XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

12:16

the first comment is so gold

12:16

in what universe does this human live

i mean

Chairn

such as?

webrtc is worse in firefox, webgl sucks hard, webgpu is still much more beta firefox is slower in most stuff

12:16

list is long

but nobody uses webgl for most stuff

Mʎɹ シ

Buy virtual number and use VPN

anyone here who wants to use chatgpt, using this method owo

owo

12:17

but i don't care about ai

i don't think most website uses these

Chairn

i don't think most website uses these

there is more firefox has no PWA, the UI is worse(subjective). firefox mobile is trash (some addons are really good, but the overall experience is bad) firefox shows ads on their home site

12:20

firefox is also the underdog, which means they will never set the state of art. they always have to implement what chrome etc implement

12:20

so they can't really be innovative, except over specs

pwa ?

progressive web applications? xd

yes

so you'd be in favor of a monopoly of chrome & google on the internet ?

basically use websites as electron apps

Chairn

so you'd be in favor of a monopoly of chrome & google on the internet ?

i am in favour of having the state of art. and firefox is simply too far behind

12:21

there was a time where firefox was the monopoly of internet browsers

12:22

and they fucked it up

and what do you need state of the art browser for?

Jupstar ✪

there was a time where firefox was the monopoly of internet browsers

never?

Chairn

never?

firefox 3.6

having more than 50% doesn't mean monopoly

well at least they had the power to be innovative

12:22

and they didnt use it

12:24

imagine we'd still use flash today instead of html5

12:24

lmao

12:26

@Ryozuki https://ruffle.rs/

Ruffle is a Flash Player emulator written in Rust. Ruffle targets both desktop and the web using WebAssembly.

12:26

really good already

12:26

i can play some old flash games with it already

12:26

epyc

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7744 Add color palette and pipette to editor

Add color palette with up to 8 colors to editor toolbar. The palette colors work like regular color picker buttons, so they open a color picker popup on click and the value can be copied and pasted with Ctrl+Right click and Ctrl+Left click respectively. Less palette colors are shown when not enough space is available (with 5:4 resolutions). Add color pipette which allows selecting any color displayed on the screen. Selecting a color with the pipette adds the new color to the palette and sh...

ChillerDragon

i had the same on fokkos server now and it for the life of it would not whitelist me so i did it via curl and it worked

Oh

Ewan

Cache-Control: no-store, must-revalidate

It must be added on @deen side

Jupstar ✪

yeah switch to firefox, the browser that is always 10 years behind in features xD

Fwiw, I've only ever had issues with ancient govt websites that only run on ie6

Chairn

so you'd be in favor of a monopoly of chrome & google on the internet ?

Probably. Most people don't care until it's way too late

Learath2

Fwiw, I've only ever had issues with ancient govt websites that only run on ie6

Chillerdragon had issues with webrtc using discord voice chat. It doesn't support noise filtering. I'd claim that's a big issue already

i also have some problems with firefox when try to use voicechat justatest

justatest

but in chrome everything works fine

15:34

btw, is it ok that hook like shows that i can hook through blocks and i actually cant

MilkeeyCat

btw, is it ok that hook like shows that i can hook through blocks and i actually cant

I think it's fine. We use the length of the hook as if acting on another tee, which is a little longer than it is when acting on a tile

Learath2

I think it's fine. We use the length of the hook as if acting on another tee, which is a little longer than it is when acting on a tile

i mean, it shows i can hook thru but its only possible to hook to purple circle (edited)

15:49

Image attachment

Oh this one looks wrong, hm

MilkeeyCat

i mean, it shows i can hook thru but its only possible to hook to purple circle (edited)

I think this is because we use mouse position instead of TargetXY for hookcoll.

is this a bug or a feature?

MilkeeyCat

is this a bug or a feature?

Well, it used to use TargetXY. but it got changed in this PR: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4760.

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7745 Remove tautological check from TileExistsNext

The check will always evaluate to true, and therefore is not needed. Closes #2057

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with...

hi bros

16:37

broadcast make some time to clear from the screen, how can i clear it sooner ?

Send an empty broadcast to override it

1

Robyt3

Send an empty broadcast to override it

also is there a bool to indicate if any broadcast is currently showen on the players screen ?

რილია

also is there a bool to indicate if any broadcast is currently showen on the players screen ?

No, you'd have to remember when the broadcast was sent and check if that's longer ago than the broadcast time (edited)

ChillerDragon

@Anime.pdf trol empty repo https://github.com/TeeworldsFun/teeworlds-teeball

noooo, i forgot it (edited)

?? wat binary

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #1908 New Feature: Add personal client-sided time Checkpoints

??

sorry idk what to say TuT, i create that repo 3 years ago

what repo

17:06

who are you talking to?

-- ChillerDragon @Anime-pdf trol empty repo https://github.com/TeeworldsFun/teeworlds-teeball

17:06

i reply it

aaa

17:06

yea i dont see replies sorry

17:07

so you replied to my message

yes yes

i see

17:07

sad

17:07

binary is boring anyways code would be more interesting

17:09

@⭐♥ST-Chara♥⭐ so 3yrs ago you had it and now its gone? ._.

its probably gone

rip

Interestingly, I used a web time machine to browse FuN's website at that time, but rip (edited)

everyone ready for new years copyright commits?

ChillerDragon

is there some LDPRELOAD i can set that just prints some debug info for tcp or better even just http

ChillerDragon: SSLKEYLOGFILE

BlaiZephyr | meloƞ

"how devs are concerned about the potential backlash associated with accounts while overlooking the benefits they bring"

no? ^^ all devs seem to want accounts

i heard about the meetup

- how was it?

baby frog

ok. so i shouldnt join with a custom client then, regardless of whether theres hacks or not

custom clients are allowed, cheats not

Avolicious

I am not sure if people are interested in answering it in here, but there you go. In gRPC you are able to create a long running bidirectional ( bidi ) stream with stub->AsyncEventStream(&context_, &this->cq_, reinterpret_cast<void*>(gRPC::Type::CONNECT)); This works great until there is a network problem & the stream stops sending or receiving data. There is a built-in grpc-core reconnect & keepalive feature, but it doesnt restart the stream. How would you solve the problem?

what does it do instead of restarting the stream when it detects an error?

You are using either the Firefox or Chrome browsers on the client system to access a web application.

18:24

SSLKEYLOGFILE seems to be browser only

all is a strong word. I think even jopsti is pro ddnet accounts but only if done right. He does not even have an account on kog.

Replying to @heinrich5991 no? ^^ all devs seem to want accounts

Jupstar ✪

but it's not zero-costable? e.g. i dont see a feature to disable it if i dont need it

https://docs.rs/crate/tracing/latest/features it has features to disable it (even completely, check max_level_off. it needs -O1 to be zero-cost, I think)

okay i kinda got SSLKEYLOGFILE working but its not smooth enough for me to be useful

heinrich5991

what does it do instead of restarting the stream when it detects an error?

An invalid tag so it crashes

18:42

If a stream got cancelled by the server, you cant just restart it afaik. You have to re-init the stream itself, not the connection

Was great meeting fellow Tees at the 37c3. Thanks for stopping by. I was surprised how many Tees showed up :D. (edited)

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ChillerDragon

is it "a javascript error" or "an javascript error" ?

ChillerDragon: for "a" vs "an", always check whether the next word, when spoken, starts with a vowel. that means "hour" starts with a vowel, but "university" does not.

For anyone who wants to meet, the next opportunity is at https://fosdem.org/2024 (cc @chillerdragon)

FOSDEM 2024 - Home

c: thanks for the ping but seems like my next free slot would be 2025

tear

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18:56

okay "hour" starts with "o" but doesnt "university" start with "u" ?

18:57

@Zwelf wait wot ppl showed up?

+

ppl u didnt know?

Fudgy

Im playing with a 0.7 client from like 3 years ago. It's annoying to not see finish times when playing race with others

why do you play from 0.7? ^^

me?

a fudgy

heinrich5991

why do you play from 0.7? ^^

It feels smoother, I just like it

19:00

And I added some changes locally that I like

@Zwelf i somehow can not believe ppl u did not know and did not expect coming that actually play the game showed up

fudgy sus

I dont play ddrace so I dont need ddnet client

Yes, some. Some I knew only by name, some I had played with. Some old players (one who wrote a DDRace mod back in the days) that I didn't know. A Teeworlds player that wasn't aware of DDNet. In total we were ~10 I believe. (2 unrelated to Teeworlds/DDNet also showed up).

no fucking way

19:02

dude i really missed something there

19:03

"A Teeworlds player that wasn't aware of DDNet" love it

19:03

this is why 0.7 compat matters

Ryozuki

0.7 always the problem

please don't do that with other people's projects…

Yeah, I think he tried Teeworlds a few years ago again, when DDNet didn't had 0.7 compat.

dood heinrich chill ryo was just cyber bullying me a bit

19:06

its his real opinion but it was clearly a joke

19:06

pls dont turn #developer into a joke free zone heinrich ._.

Fudgy

It feels smoother, I just like it

if you could debug why, it'd be interesting ^^

19:07

it's supposed to be a zone void of lazy negativity

19:08

which I think this was an example of

teeworlds is much more lightweight than ddnet

19:09

it has way less features

Zwelf

Was great meeting fellow Tees at the 37c3. Thanks for stopping by. I was surprised how many Tees showed up :D. (edited)

Thank you guys for organizing :) was fun

heartw

4

meetup leak!

shouldn't impact performance

@heinrich5991 im not sure "feels smoother" has to be raw fps or something like that. Alone the start/quit time and the cleaner menu has a lot feel to it.

dragon: time ./teeworlds quit

time teeworlds quit real 0.7s

no way

not in 4k

19:15

on my fullhd laptop

./target/release/ddnet-playground quit 0,21s user 0,16s system 209% cpu 0,177 total

time DDNet quit 4.3s

it got faster

19:16

but it's unfair, your pc is faster

19:16

dragonball: can u do me a favor and test it on your pc?

IMO alone the non teeish textures used in the ddnet main menu are a valid reason to switch to vanilla client

19:17

jupjapyopstinger: i am im bulgaria meeting bulgariantee xd

19:17

@Axi when meet mf

but u have fullhd laptop?

oh by pc u mean my laptop?

19:18

run ur rust code?

yeah, u open to test?

yea but i kinda wanna go to bed since like 1 hour xd

19:18

lez do tmrw

yeah but doesnt matter

19:20

was just quirious if it feels good, if someone other than extremly biased me runs it

19:20

wow my english is good

quirious

19:21

reads fine in my brain

ikr

19:21

language is understanding each other

everything feels sleepy rn

19:22

ill do feelsgoodman test tomorrow after coffee

19:22

if i dont forget

yeah yeah no pressure

19:23

i'd upload cur version then anyway

is the sounds on protocol.h like: SOUND_GUN_FIRE, is the only sounds that i can use on my server or there is more ?

ChillerDragon: remind me what the differencese between 0.7 and ddnet menu are

20:57

I guess we could try to optimize startup time

ladies, gentlemen and other creatures as well. im proud to show u my milk lang interpreter(if u type in a number, it returns number)

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cool

20:58

is the source code public somewhere?

suuuure https://github.com/Milk-Interpreters/milk_interpreter_go

GitHub - Milk-Interpreters/milk_interpreter_go: Milk interpreter in go

Milk interpreter in go. Contribute to Milk-Interpreters/milk_interpreter_go development by creating an account on GitHub.

MilkeeyCat

ladies, gentlemen and other creatures as well. im proud to show u my milk lang interpreter(if u type in a number, it returns number)

its a calculator with null justatest

justatest

(edited)

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nice name xd

22:09

call generators cows

22:09

or smth

22:09

pointers

22:09

call pointers cows

22:09

cows point to milk

in pxtone u have to call Moo() to create 1 frame of audio

Ryozuki

pointers

No pointers jn milklang, pointers hard. It has only arithmetic on numbers, booleans, null. Functions and variables are coming

nice

22:50

add a llvm jit backend

Sounds complicated as fuck. I making a lang for grugs. I liked writing a lexer as well as parser

u would love lalrpop

22:52

its so easy

22:52

well until u hit a reduce reduce problem

22:52

there is also chumsky

After i finish the book ill try to make it in rust

https://github.com/zesterer/chumsky

GitHub - zesterer/chumsky: Write expressive, high-performance parse...

Write expressive, high-performance parsers with ease. - GitHub - zesterer/chumsky: Write expressive, high-performance parsers with ease.

22:52

this lib is for parsers

22:52

with pretty errors

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

124bbc4 add x and y coords to /tp - ewancg fc825fb Merge pull request #7696 from ewancg/tp-coords - heinrich5991

23:06

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7696 add x and y coords to /tp

23:08

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

04f4305 Improve player and tee settings menus - Robyt3 04553d6 Merge pull request #7706 from Robyt3/Menus-Player-Tee-Settings-Improvement - heinrich5991

23:08

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7706 Improve player and tee settings menus

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

5d35cd8 change cast of pointer to uintptr-t - BlaiZephyr 3defe8e Merge pull request #7703 from BlaiZephyr/fix-cmake-warning - def-

23:29

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7703 change cast of pointer to uintptr_t

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