DDraceNetwork - off-topic

U know life is shit, when biggest dream is owning 40m2 house with 80m2 garden

You are just not used to it because western governments haven’t been planning shit in the last 70 years

Learath2

Most famous chinese “ghost cities” are just early settlements that are being prepared for growth

Villages are dying out everywhere in the world tho

my parent just bought a 75m2 home

They either turn into small cities, or get absorbed by nearest big city

Overlord

Villages are dying out everywhere in the world tho

Yeah villages dying is a real thing, but the ghost city images you find are usually not villages, just preplanned growth

TsFreddie

my parent just bought a 75m2 home

Move back home! And save up cash faster

they sold their only house for my US adventure. so it is nice they finally has a nice and new place to live now.

00:01

wdym save up faster

Learath2

Yeah villages dying is a real thing, but the ghost city images you find are usually not villages, just preplanned growth

U clearly have never heard of Detroit

my hometown pays an average monthly salary of 3000cny

TsFreddie

they sold their only house for my US adventure. so it is nice they finally has a nice and new place to live now.

oh

they had to sell their house to get you to the US?

Literally ghost city, and its not even in china

heinrich5991

oh

they had to sell their house to get you to the US?

ye

00:02

we were like lower middle class

that's so much devotion to their child

TsFreddie

wdym save up faster

Not paying rent is the fastest way, of saving up (rent is huge expense!)

Overlord

U clearly have never heard of Detroit

I mean chinese ones. America is a fail state

ye, also why i'm so annoyed not being to earn more

00:03

cuz it doesn't seem worth it lol

Learath2

I mean chinese ones. America is a fail state

Atleast they"re free.........(to own guns and nothing else)

TsFreddie

my hometown pays an average monthly salary of 3000cny

that's a little less than 400€ per month

Overlord

Atleast they"re free.........(to own guns and nothing else)

Yeeeeeeeeehaw

TsFreddie

my hometown pays an average monthly salary of 3000cny

btw i currently earn like 17k

!heinrich convert

TsFreddie

btw i currently earn like 17k

~2000€/m

Overlord

Atleast they"re free.........(to own guns and nothing else)

They are also free to die because they can’t afford an ambulance

Damn i earn 720€

that's still not a lot for software developers

heinrich5991

that's a little less than 400€ per month

You probably wanna adjust that for purchasing power

heinrich5991

that's a little less than 400€ per month

third tier city is pretty okay to live with 3000cny. only okay, but totally doable

ah, living costs are a lot lower in china?

00:05

how much for a small flat?

Learath2

They are also free to die because they can’t afford an ambulance

AMBULAM* IS NOT YOUR TAXI TO HOSPITAL ~~ some merican who screams about taxes while all his taxes go to military

to be fair i spend like 5000cny per month on average here in guangzhou

00:05

not sure if i would want to go back

Learath2

You probably wanna adjust that for purchasing power

do you have a hint on how to do that?

i could save about 3000cny per month with my 17k salary lmao justatest

TsFreddie

i could save about 3000cny per month with my 17k salary lmao justatest

How much is rent tho?

2500cny

google pays 5400€ for gsoc students in germany and 3600€ for gsoc students in china

So... 3k lasts for a month in 3rd rate city, but here its just a rent...

ye

so maybe 2/3?

you can rent for 1500cny in my howntown and spend the rest

The minimum wage in turkey is 300€ 50% of Turkish people earn the minimum wage. You’d instantly die in any western european country with even double that wage

you'd get your wage subsidized in germany

heinrich5991

do you have a hint on how to do that?

Not a very very easy thing to do, but I like adjusting for the average meal and the cost of rent

how much does a meal of fast food cost you, @TsFreddie?

00:08

like takeaway

00:08

I pay ~6€ for a kebap in berlin

I think moving to europe wouldnt work for freddie, what he would save by earning more, would just translate into more expenses ( not mentioning mental state and other stuff)

heinrich5991

I pay ~6€ for a kebap in berlin

About the same in Torino

heinrich5991

how much does a meal of fast food cost you, @TsFreddie?

35 ~ 50

00:09

big mac meal is like 45

heinrich5991

I pay ~6€ for a kebap in berlin

WTF thats cheaper than in poland

so 4.5€ to 6.5€ in china (edited)

street vendors sell noodles for 20 in the upper range (edited)

00:09

fast food are quite expensive

TsFreddie

big mac meal is like 45

Big mac meal is 12€ here wtf

Learath2

Big mac meal is 12€ here wtf

consider adjusting purchasing power

TsFreddie

street vendors sell noodles for 20 in the upper range (edited)

ah, that's what I call fast food though

!heinrich 45 cny to €

Overlord

!heinrich 45 cny to €

5.8€

Or just give me 100 cny to € so i do math myself

00:10

Ty!

company catering is about 25cny per meal

TsFreddie

consider adjusting purchasing power

Yeah, so as I kinda expected life is cheaper in China to begin with so comparing wages in € isn’t a great metric

if you just want a bowl of wontons, 18

TsFreddie

company catering is about 25cny per meal

No wonder U eat that everyday its cheaper than cooking

TsFreddie

company catering is about 25cny per meal

For 25cny in Italy I can eat bread

Overlord

No wonder U eat that everyday its cheaper than cooking

definitely not cheaper than cooking

00:11

cooking can be much cheaper

Overlord

Or just give me 100 cny to € so i do math myself

100CNY is approximately 13€

TsFreddie

definitely not cheaper than cooking

Just calculate cost of Ur time, cheaper than cooking

Overlord

Just calculate cost of Ur time, cheaper than cooking

it's not like you'd work during the time where you'd cook

00:11

also, cooking in itself is a valuable skill

heinrich5991

it's not like you'd work during the time where you'd cook

But he can either relax or learn new stuff to advance

Overlord

Just calculate cost of Ur time, cheaper than cooking

calculate my time wasted on unpaid working, cooking is probably more worth it

1

00:12

TsFreddie

calculate my time wasted on unpaid working, cooking is probably more worth it

If U wouldnt do it for free, dont do it for cash!

i already do it for free

00:12

wdym

00:12

00:13

i am working rn

00:13

kind of

TsFreddie

i already do it for free

It translates really badly

But seriously, it’s incredibly hard to compare wages even within a continent let alone across different ones

TsFreddie

i am working rn

So unpaid sunday working?

ye.

00:13

just wanted to get a skybox looking nicer

TsFreddie

ye.

Kinda stupid unless U fear for Ur job

i don't

00:14

i just consider learning and entertainment working as well, that's probably why you shouldn't overlap your hobby and work

Learath2

But seriously, it’s incredibly hard to compare wages even within a continent let alone across different ones

Riddle me this Batman. Ur Kebap is cheaper than mine, but my wage is half Urs, who am i?

cuz it's hard to feel like learning when your job is to learn

TsFreddie

i just consider learning and entertainment working as well, that's probably why you shouldn't overlap your hobby and work

I will be just like you when I get a job

Overlord

Riddle me this Batman. Ur Kebap is cheaper than mine, but my wage is half Urs, who am i?

how much is a kebap for you?

Learath2

I will be just like you when I get a job

oof

Learath2

I will be just like you when I get a job

try working on teeworlds for fun

heinrich5991

how much is a kebap for you?

Last one i ate was 8€

I act all workers rights and all but I’m a pushover

also chinese has a problem of pride. people would rather finishing their job more efficiently than on time

Overlord

Last one i ate was 8€

It didnt nearly have any sauce or salad ( worst kebab i can remember)

oof

people crunch for more recognition

00:16

Probably cheapest kebab in my city would be 6€ but it would be really small portion

i don't feel like i'm doing it

00:16

but i'm doing it

Overlord

Riddle me this Batman. Ur Kebap is cheaper than mine, but my wage is half Urs, who am i?

Bad riddle, too many answers

basically (edited)

back in my day™ (grandma speaking), I could get kebaps for 2.5€

Learath2

Bad riddle, too many answers

The answer is... poor!

back in my day, I could get a hotdog for 1cny

00:17

popsicles are like .3 cny (edited)

heinrich5991

back in my day™ (grandma speaking), I could get kebaps for 2.5€

There was a "shitty street stall" where U could use secret password saying "burger in kebab bread) and U got diarrhea and something kebab like for 1€-1,5€

TsFreddie

back in my day, I could get a hotdog for 1cny

From real dog?!

heinrich5991

back in my day™ (grandma speaking), I could get kebaps for 2.5€

Kebab has never been that cheap even in Turkey ngl. The cheapest I was alive to remember is about 5€

Overlord

From real dog?!

i never had dogs

Overlord

There was a "shitty street stall" where U could use secret password saying "burger in kebab bread) and U got diarrhea and something kebab like for 1€-1,5€

nono, real normal kebap everywhere

00:17

maybe it was 3€ in some places

i don't really like weird meat

00:18

i'm fine with donkey meat tho (edited)

Learath2

Kebab has never been that cheap even in Turkey ngl. The cheapest I was alive to remember is about 5€

Turkish kebab is like ultra different from polish one

heinrich5991

nono, real normal kebap everywhere

Insane then

Learath2

Kebab has never been that cheap even in Turkey ngl. The cheapest I was alive to remember is about 5€

Though again it was smack in the middle of the turkish currency crisis. Right after hyperinflation of the 90s. Very very hard to say anything about the worth of 5€ back then

xd

i can't handle frogs, monkeys, cats, dogs and any bugs

00:19

i don't like brains either

how about bats?

1

never had them

00:19

probably wouldn't try

Overlord

Turkish kebab is like ultra different from polish one

The thing most europeans call “kebab” is technically “döner kebab”, it would never be served in Turkey the way it’s served in europ

ah yeah

Far too much vegetal and sauce

what is doner btw

I'm talking about the berlin kebap stuff

00:19

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doner_kebab

Doner kebab

Doner kebab (UK: , US: ; Turkish: döner or döner kebap, pronounced [dœˈnæɾ ceˈbap]), also spelled as döner kebab, is a dish of Turkish origin made of meat cooked on a vertical rotisserie. Seasoned meat stacked in the shape of an inverted cone is turned slowly on the rotisserie, next to a vertical cooking element. The operator uses a knife to sli...

00:19

it's missing the ö!

Every message from lerato mentioning a city is a different one

00:20

Lerato the nomad

seen them in uk, never understand what it means

heinrich5991

I'm talking about the berlin kebap stuff

Same

TsFreddie

what is doner btw

You mean the word?

Learath2

You mean the word?

i guess so.

00:20

is it a name or something

chillerdragon

Lerato the nomad

Thats why no GF

It’s just massive piece of some type of meat on a massive skewer that rotates

gimme a turkish kebap

Learath2

It’s just massive piece of some type of meat on a massive skewer that rotates

like rotisserie?

The word just comes from the verb “to turn” in turkish

weird

Learath2

It’s just massive piece of some type of meat on a massive skewer that rotates

Sadly that stuff is mostly super low tier mechanically removed meat and then mashed into that thing

TsFreddie

like rotisserie?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bursa8.JPG

File:Bursa8.JPG

ok then

Especially the chicken

00:23

All this talking about food made me hungry :l

i feel like western languages has too many words that are just names you just know.

doner kebab is good

00:23

i want one now

Overlord

Sadly that stuff is mostly super low tier mechanically removed meat and then mashed into that thing

Yep, it’s especially hard to get good döner outside Turkey

like neither doner and kebab says what they are in the word itself

00:24

chillerdragon

Every message from lerato mentioning a city is a different one

Explører

Learath2

Yep, it’s especially hard to get good döner outside Turkey

well likes its hard getting a good jamon outside here

wowo

TsFreddie

like neither doner and kebab says what they are in the word itself

In Turkish it’s extremely clear. It’s “turning meat dish”

TsFreddie

like neither doner and kebab says what they are in the word itself

I mean kebab kinda explains jt all the doner part is useless

Ryozuki

well likes its hard getting a good jamon outside here

or bread outside of germany

00:24

waaat

00:25

i have bread

00:25

isnt it universal

Italian bread I can not recommend

garlic bread

Germans make some insane bred

chillerdragon

Italian bread I can not recommend

Dutch bread also sucks

Only the french can compete

i don't like bread

00:25

TsFreddie

i don't like bread

try coming to germany

Baguette

TsFreddie

i don't like bread

Reportable

Ryozuki

i have bread

send photo

Xd

heinrich5991

send photo

i mean we have bread here, sadly i have none left tomorrow i gotta buy

heinrich5991

try coming to germany

Ngl someone who isn’t a bred person might not find the variety in germany charming

i eat the bread with my jamon

i still dream of earning enough money just from my side projects so i can stop working for corps (edited)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jam%C3%B3n this?

Jamón

Jamón (Spanish pronunciation: [xaˈmon], pl. jamones) is a kind of dry-cured ham produced in Spain. It is one of the most globally recognized food items of Spanish cuisine. It is also regularly a component of tapas.Most jamón is commonly called jamón serrano in Spain.Jamón is the Spanish word for ham. As such, other ham products produced or consu...

You can buy stuff on Sunday ryo?

TsFreddie

i still dream of earning enough money just from my side projects so i can stop working for corps (edited)

that sounds very hard

true

Ryozuki

i eat the bread with my jamon

Last time I was in spain I had the pleasure of having some jamon iberico with bred. Truly the food of gods

chillerdragon

You can buy stuff on Sunday ryo?

only in germany everything closes on sundays

No way

https://www.cincojotas.es/

Cinco Jotas, Deléitate con uno de los mejores jamones del mundo

Jamón Cinco Jotas, un regalo para tus sentidos. El mejor jamón de Jabugo, y otros productos ibéricos de lujo sólo aptos para paladares exigentes.

yes way

this is the good one

or just get in a company that has tons of expendable moneys

chillerdragon

No way

Tis indeed a german thing

Omg

chinese companies are so poor right now there are no way for them to pay nicely

TsFreddie

or just get in a company that has tons of expendable moneys

Go back in time so you can work for bell labs in it’s golden days

heinrich5991

only in germany everything closes on sundays

Poland too, its 4th year like that now...

oh, interesting

heinrich5991

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jam%C3%B3n this?

yes, i tried jamon in japan and it wasnt good

germany has had it for 100+ years, probably

Shittiest law that ever passed

is it weird that you guys closes everything at night too

Ryozuki

yes, i tried jamon in japan and it wasnt good

Japans attempt at charcuterie is truly criminal

00:29

The thing they call bacon is probably the saddest thing I’ve ever tasted

TsFreddie

is it weird that you guys closes everything at night too

U want me to work 24/7 justatest

Overlord

Shittiest law that ever passed

I like it from the perspective of giving everyone* free time for their families

Learath2

Japans attempt at charcuterie is truly criminal

the funny thing is spanish restaurants in japan

00:29

they always hang big spanish flags

00:29

and i find it funny

heinrich5991

I like it from the perspective of giving everyone* free time for their families

Bruh, they dont spend it together they have nowhere to go!

Overlord

U want me to work 24/7 justatest

i don't think anyone work 24/7

european food is counsidered gourmet in tokyo?

night shifts are bad i know, but it's pretty common here

Overlord

Bruh, they dont spend it together they have nowhere to go!

museums? restaurants? parks?

I went to an Italian place and they had massive Italian flags too. I guess it’s a japan thing

especially for food business

Ryozuki

european food is counsidered gourmet in tokyo?

They absolutely fetishize french food

xd

00:30

PAN REVEAL

I'd just be happy about my cheaper sushi in japan

In their eyes france is the capital of good food

on my hotel there was a japanese and french restaurant

it is cheaper in japan, no?

heinrich5991

I'd just be happy about my cheaper sushi in japan

ramen for 3€

heinrich5991

museums? restaurants? parks?

So restaurant workers dont need to spend time with familly?

better than what u get for 15€

00:30

here

Nice pan

Replying to @Overlord IMG_2948.png

i don't think i would enjoy living in japan

Overlord

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Is that an unholy combination of a pelmeni, cheburek and enchilada?

Overlord

So restaurant workers dont need to spend time with familly?

yes, they do. but it's a good start

feels too crowed

Learath2

Is that an unholy combination of a pelmeni, cheburek and enchilada?

Its pierogi but one has cancer

Those are some BIG pierogi

xd

Self made

Or that is one tiny pan

Its tiny pan

00:32

Usually i get 8 pierogi on normal pan

00:32

This can fit 3 at most

Overlord

Its pierogi but one has cancer

Hope they get well soon

I need to go on a european tour some day and visit all of you

i love the soup with balls of meat they do here for christmas :d

chillerdragon

Nice pan

Learath2

Hope they get well soon

The one with cancer was made by me ( i usually dont nake them just the dough and filling ) am not dexterous enough ( when i was a kid it was better)

Folding of dumplings is an art form

im getting hungry

Ryozuki

im getting hungry

Same reason i went out of bed to make food

but its rly bad to eat at this hour

00:35

i usually snack on bread XD

00:35

but i got none

00:36

gg

God i wish i was like freddie, instead of dreading monday, being unable to wait, so he works at sunday

Ryozuki

i usually snack on bread XD

Just make egg

i got an egg

00:36

kfc breakfast menu btw

Overlord

Just make egg

but egg without bread is crime

Ryozuki

but egg without bread is crime

Boil potatoes

got none

Ryozuki

but i got none

Eat a spoon of flour. Wash it down with water. Bred

Ryozuki

got none

I have over 100 pierogis, cant email them tho

Learath2

Eat a spoon of flour. Wash it down with water. Bred

xd

you can die eating breakfast item here for less than 6euros (edited)

Learath2

Eat a spoon of flour. Wash it down with water. Bred

Actually thats how i make the dough for pierogi water flour oik