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I definitely should have done a cs degree instead of a ceng one, these look so much more interesting except for discrete math

pepeW

owo

08:37

i just learn by myself

owo

Learath2

I definitely should have done a cs degree instead of a ceng one, these look so much more interesting except for discrete math

what's a ceng

10:49

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computer engineering?

Learath2

I definitely should have done a cs degree instead of a ceng one, these look so much more interesting except for discrete math

you can still do one, no?

doing a bachelor's again sounds stupid

11:20

perhaps he could do a master's degree in CS if he wanted to continue

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7590 Fix heap-use-after-free when popup opens another popup

11:35

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

d8ec6a0 Fix heap-use-after-free when popup opens another popup - Robyt3 20a636d Merge pull request #7590 from Robyt3/UI-Popup-Open-Close-Fix - heinrich5991

11:35

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7565 Editor - Parent popup won't close for the first popup.

11:38

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7591 Fix incorrect sound index usage for editor sound preview

11:38

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

7e8c2aa Fix incorrect sound index usage for editor sound preview - Robyt3 6564176 Merge pull request #7591 from Robyt3/Editor-Sound-Invalid-Index - heinrich5991

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7596 Fix chat preview update

When I remade the chat preview for #7540, I forgot that you could change your name and that the chat preview would update accordingly. This PR fixes that issue, allowing the lines to be updated instead of initializing them only once.

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
...

guys i have free own server 24/7 and i wanna add trash map for ru it is possible? can someone help me? server on win 10. (edited)

root@usename:~/ddnetpp# cd build
root@username:~/ddnetpp/build# cmake ..
-- The C compiler identification is unknown
-- The CXX compiler identification is unknown
CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:42 (project):
  No CMAKE_C_COMPILER could be found.

  Tell CMake where to find the compiler by setting either the environment
  variable "CC" or the CMake cache entry CMAKE_C_COMPILER to the full path to
  the compiler, or to the compiler name if it is in the PATH.


CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:42 (project):
  No CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER could be found.

  Tell CMake where to find the compiler by setting either the environment
  variable "CXX" or the CMake cache entry CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to the full path
  to the compiler, or to the compiler name if it is in the PATH.


-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
See also "/root/ddnetpp/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".

(edited)

13:03

pls help

13:03

this is vds sever

13:03

qemu

13:03

ubuntu

13:03

i want compile ddnetpp

But this is not ddnet

13:07

Pp

ok

13:07

check

13:07

second

13:07

wait

Ping chiller dragon

13:07

But the error is clear

13:07

U didn't install a (edited)

13:07

Compiler

13:08

Sometimes it helps to read a readme

im install it

13:08

but with bugs

13:08

idk

13:08

thanks

13:08

i want reinstall

people

but with bugs

What bugs:o

13:09

Btw you really shouldn't use the root user

It's the only one I have xd

13:10

it's a virtual server and I bought it

Ok, but usually you create a other user. If a software has a vulnerable it directly has root access now xd

root@username:~/ddnetpp/build# apt install cmake Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done The following additional packages will be installed: gcc gcc-11 libc-dev-bin libc-devtools libc6-dev libgcc-11-dev libgd3 libtiff5 linux-libc-dev Suggested packages: cmake-doc ninja-build cmake-format gcc-multilib autoconf automake libtool flex bison gdb gcc-doc gcc-11-multilib gcc-11-doc gcc-11-locales glibc-doc libgd-tools The following NEW packages will be installed: cmake gcc gcc-11 libc-dev-bin libc-devtools libc6-dev libgcc-11-dev libgd3 libtiff5 linux-libc-dev 0 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 1522 kB/31.5 MB of archives. After this operation, 112 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y Ign:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates/main amd64 libtiff5 amd64 4.3.0-6ubuntu0.6 Ign:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates/main amd64 linux-libc-dev amd64 5.15.0-87.97 Err:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates/main amd64 libtiff5 amd64 4.3.0-6ubuntu0.6 404 Not Found [IP: 185.125.190.36 80] Err:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-updates/main amd64 linux-libc-dev amd64 5.15.0-87.97 404 Not Found [IP: 185.125.190.36 80] E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tiff/libtiff5_4.3.0-6ubuntu0.6_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 185.125.190.36 80] E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-libc-dev_5.15.0-87.97_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 185.125.190.36 80] E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? root@username:~/ddnetpp/build#

Mh seems like the download mirror is down

the only thing i need root user for is to compile and host ddnet++

people

the only thing i need root user for is to compile and host ddnet++

Well anyway keep that in your head. When u have time Google why you shouldn't use it. As for your problem try to change apt sources list to another mirror

13:13

But you can better Google than ask here for this

Jupstar ✪

Mh seems like the download mirror is down

I had no such errors before when I installed cmake and have no experience with it as well as English xd

13:14

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Use chat gpt

1

13:14

It's good enough for such questions

Oh, thank you.

<ChillerDragon> apt update -y && apt upgrade -y

13:15

<ChillerDragon> did you already run that?

13:16

<ChillerDragon> @people ^

I think so, but there were some errors I didn't pay attention to. They kind of had to do with some of the libs

<ChillerDragon> send errors

13:18

<ChillerDragon> or try apt-get update --fix-missing -y

I'll try again.

hey chiller

<ChillerDragon> i love how the windows user @triki got ignored haha. Based. Not sure if trashmap runs on windows as far as i remember it heavily depends on linux. But you can just run a regular ddnet server the same way as you would run it on your pc and it just works

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> or try apt-get update --fix-missing -y

can u answer me when fokkonaut wake up

<ChillerDragon> uwu @! 3x1sT

or how i can contact him

<ChillerDragon> idk his schedule i only know he is kinda hard to reach these days but he also reads this very channel occasionally

13:20

<ChillerDragon> wat u want from him?

not me , my friend

13:21

he want unban on fokko server

13:21

he got life ban cuz used m2client

<ChillerDragon> oh yikes

now this client legit

13:22

and he want unban

You've been on unstable and I've already written to you about how he hasn't considered my appeal for a ban on his server for a VERY long time now

13:22

very

13:23

long time

13:23

veery

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> oh yikes

and which discord client u use?

veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery

<ChillerDragon> @! 3x1sT me?

13:23

<ChillerDragon> i dont use discord

ye

13:23

so

<ChillerDragon> im on https://chat.zillyhuhn.com/

lmfao imagine asking for an unban in a dev channel for someone botting

aa

Voxel

lmfao imagine asking for an unban in a dev channel for someone botting

fr

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

78969b4 Add 679€ donation by heinrich5991 - def-

Daaaamn @heinrich5991 !

<ChillerDragon> wot?

Rich boy

<ChillerDragon> i dont see github embeds

13:27

<ChillerDragon> did he donate?

Chiller

<ChillerDragon> how much?

You know u can read it

<ChillerDragon> not at work

Where a will is is a way

<ChillerDragon> ok ill check github xd

Xd

13:28

679

<ChillerDragon> Add 679€ donation by heinrich5991

13:28

<ChillerDragon> missed 666 opportunity

6969

heinrich got his paycheck

deen got his

13:35

Heinrich is having a good day

heinrich followed elon musk's btc videos

1

13:38

He got richer than ever

13:38

poggers2

13:38

679€ is damn alot

bro, i really want to make a custom blocker server for persian people but i cant lift my ass up and go learn vscode and c++ justatest

justatest

14:35

but i really really want to make one brownbear

brownbear

14:36

and i have muscle for brain, which is hard for me to do the math in code

14:38

i was always bad at math

Don't talk about doing it. Do it

but the math justatest

justatest

justatest

Do it, or accept that you don't actually want to have your Server

14:41

That simple

how about i give someone money to make a custom server ?

If you have too much money, go ahead

Someone with skill will probably take at least 10$ per hour

Jupstar ✪

Someone with skill will probably take at least 10$ per hour

come play gores

Not at computer

<ChillerDragon> @რილია paypal me 10 bucks and i give you ddnet++ axaxax

1

but i nor have the money owo

owo

<ChillerDragon> what should the persian block server do?

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> what should the persian block server do?

they love to give money for vip and stuff in order to shit on gameplay

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> @რილია paypal me 10 bucks and i give you ddnet++ axaxax

should be ++ddnet

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> what should the persian block server do?

the more OP vip's the more satisfy they gets

<ChillerDragon> what should vip and stuff do? Because there already is ddnet++ which is free and open source and it has vip

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> what should vip and stuff do? Because there already is ddnet++ which is free and open source and it has vip

is there payment method in ddnet++ ?

14:46

don't forget, they love to pay

<ChillerDragon> nah you would have to manually assign vip if you collected the money

14:46

<ChillerDragon> there is no payment system integration

wait are you actually making a pay to win ddnet block server

they gladly play on it

justatest

yes

14:47

justatest

that money better be going to the ddnet servers

Voxel

that money better be going to the ddnet servers

the admins on the SV just spend it all for themselves

thats just scummy

they block and kill other players with free vip in order to push the players to buy the vip

"you pay me for free pizza and i give you, idk, mega hammer (just pixels on a screen)"

they made a custom and closed source client in order to join their servers

owo

bro taking ddnet's servers for granted

they are scums

14:52

don't come to iran, we are so dumb

14:52

poggers2

14:58

is there many values to mess around in ddnet source code to make a custom block sv ? (edited)

14:59

what is the main files to change for custom block server ? (edited)

15:02

and how to be good at math

15:02

?

Voxel

wait are you actually making a pay to win ddnet block server

@fokkonaut

2

holy arent u annoying

15:08

use google

how can i chat in there https://ddnet.org/irclogs/2014-02-26.log

maybe using an IRC client?

რილია

how can i chat in there https://ddnet.org/irclogs/2014-02-26.log

you're chatting the correct discord channel

heinrich5991

you're chatting the correct discord channel

it looks like there is more fun, they slap each other with fish

without any closer look: quakenet?

it's bridged to this channel

15:16

quakenet: #ddnet

15:16

you chat here, you can read it on IRC

15:16

you chat on IRC, you can read it here

hello from quakenet

<gekühlter Drache> hi

how can you do this ? "Bossk slaps deen around a bit with a large fishbot"

K

15:29

So many people with blue name xd

GitHub

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Wow, that is a donation

That's when you work for Mozilla and get the big cash

root@ruvds-pea82:~/ddnet/build# cmake .. -- The CXX compiler identification is unknown CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:42 (project): No CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER could be found. Tell CMake where to find the compiler by setting either the environment variable "CXX" or the CMake cache entry CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to the full path to the compiler, or to the compiler name if it is in the PATH. -- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred! See also "/root/ddnet/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log". See also "/root/ddnet/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log".

15:34

I have this error on my normal ddnet as well

15:34

XDDDD

15:34

how to fix!

first, please don't run this as roo

!!!

people

!!!

Command not found!

t

This is a bds server and I have root access ONLY.

15:34

vds

15:34

yes

15:34

shit translator

But if u have root, you can add new users xd

This of course has nothing to do with ddnet, but if you don't mind telling me how xd

cat /etc/os-release please

I could swear you always asked it and i already told you

my bad(

Well or i become a fortune teller finally

heinrich5991

cat /etc/os-release please

PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)" NAME="Debian GNU/Linux" VERSION_ID="12" VERSION="12 (bookworm)" VERSION_CODENAME=bookworm ID=debian HOME_URL="https://www.debian.org/" SUPPORT_URL="https://www.debian.org/support" BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/"

Jupstar ✪

Well or i become a fortune teller finally

xd)

15:38

fr

Lol, when did you switch to debian xd

idk

15:39

just magic

adduser <username>

15:40

e.g. adduser people

howw to change user

15:41

i create new user

sudo -su <username>

I switched to a normal user

perfect

15:47

now type c++, or g++, please

heinrich5991

sudo -su <username>

on debian su <username>

15:51

Image attachment

15:52

I'm a nigger, I'm not a racist.

15:53

anyway

people

howw to change user

justatest

try to do the cmake configure against (edited)

Image attachment

15:55

in ddnet directory

15:55

second

cmake -B build please

i have a question: if someone made a map with pornographi pictures for background and titles, and put the map on the internet server, is ddnet gonna ban that server for showing up on internet tap ?

Yes

Jupstar ✪

Yes

if the person remove that map, he's server gonna come back ? (if he massages you to unban)

No

16:01

But he could try contact an admin

16:02

But even then the chance is probably low

is this happen often ?

Jupstar ✪

Yes

WHY

I never heard of it

16:02

No answers to stupid questions

but i bet there is so many of them and you don't even know

<ChillerDragon> > it looks like there is more fun, they slap each other with fish

16:04

<ChillerDragon> lmao

Lol that's not true.

16:04

@რილია

რილია

but i bet there is so many of them and you don't even know

Well you and the tee porn industry should be aware that kids play this game

<ChillerDragon> > That's when you work for Mozilla and get the big cash

I don't understand people who would add this to a 2D game. Anyway I haven't seen such servers you can search for days for such a server but you won't find it.

<ChillerDragon> heinrich job reveal?

If that isn't an convincing argument, then i assume these ppl are beyond broken in their head

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> heinrich job reveal?

Yeah but psst

16:05

It's secret

you're working on mozilla?

16:05

ws-client

16:05

chila drakon

Ws client xd

yes

16:05

robot

<gemütlicher Drache> chillerdragon: moin moin

people

robot

Botception

The translator translated gemütlicher Drache as Trump dragon xd

16:08

why are you using a bot client and not a normal discord client xd?

let me search for hentai servers

can we mute

When is Mozilla VPN coming out?

16:09

chila drakon

Gekühlterer Drache

16:10

That's his real name, in real life

16:10

Very German name

Image attachment

people

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Epic. Without root it worked

nigabro@ruvds-pea82:/root/ddnet$ cmake -B build CMake Error: The source directory "/root/ddnet" does not exist. Specify --help for usage, or press the help button on the CMake GUI.

16:12

nigabro

<ChillerDragon> Hope you cloned with --recursive

16:12

<ChillerDragon> nigabro

lol does it affect anything?

16:13

xdd

16:13

ok

<ChillerDragon> also buy a home and stop using /root

i want reinstal

<ChillerDragon> in debian shop you can buy /home/nigabro

niga

<ChillerDragon> bro

yea

<ChillerDragon> what does cd do?

16:15

<ChillerDragon> and what does this show grep nigabro /etc/passwd

16:16

<ChillerDragon> then make sure you git clone with the --recrusive flag and you wipe your old build folder create a new one and then it should all work fine

16:16

<ChillerDragon> omg --recursive

@heinrich5991 epic donation

yea

16:21

Image attachment

16:21

I love my provider.

Jupstar ✪

So many people with blue name xd

purple best tho

16:24

brownbear

green better

this guy is half trolling

pink

poggers2

If multiple tees kill on a server i swear i lagg in that moment, is that just placebo or am I rright? Happe2ns on KoG also, so it seems to have to do sth with server load

thanks for letting me know. i will follow you and kill constantly

greenthing

1

is there gonna be a section for music art in ddnet wiki ?

Gumba

If multiple tees kill on a server i swear i lagg in that moment, is that just placebo or am I rright? Happe2ns on KoG also, so it seems to have to do sth with server load

Try recording a video of this with debug graphs enabled (press Ctrl+Shift+D then Ctrl+Shift+G)

Robyt3

Try recording a video of this with debug graphs enabled (press Ctrl+Shift+D then Ctrl+Shift+G)

I'll do that later this week, will notify u

რილია

is there gonna be a section for music art in ddnet wiki ?

https://soundcloud.com/melanin_m/holytee?si=f2804e48a2ae499d8fe8e6b0d6613de0&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

1

@Jupstar ✪ is there a way to check if 2 clients come from the same pc?

client or server side

serverside

16:59

xddd

i guess no

hmm

16:59

so no dummy detection?

u could maybe find it out

16:59

by attacking the clients and see which responds better

16:59

xD

XD

17:00

lets go

Teero

@Jupstar ✪ is there a way to check if 2 clients come from the same pc?

you can check whether they have the same IP address

17:01

that works pretty well

well then lan parties would not be possible (edited)

beyond that you're asking for good faith from the connecting person

need hardware verifaction!

it can be faked anyway

17:04

but we dont send any mac address or smth (edited)

17:04

if u mean that

yea

can be faked, relies on good will of the client

mac addresses would be useful

17:04

not for banning

the person wanting to join multiple clients would just not send their actual mac address

@Teero there is one way if u dont care about faking anyway

17:07

check the timeout code

true

timeout code is different for dummy and non-dummy

yes?

17:07

issnt it set in settings?

do you want to know if its the dummy?

17:08

then u can simply change map. the dummy will not connect

does the server have any information that cant change between dummy and player?

17:11

the server probably knows mouse_max_distance right? (edited)

zoom level

hmm

17:12

or just implement accounts ig.

u can send a map change to dummy. if the client crashes you know, it was his dummy

not for official ddnet

17:13

XD

17:13

gg

if it's a LAN party you maybe simply lift you butt and take a look with eyes 1.0?

I just found out about btop :O

Image attachment

17:18

(I uploaded in dark mode but I use it in white mode

️ )

yooo

17:19

this looks fire

Image attachment

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ws-client

<ChillerDragon> i love how the windows user @triki got ignored haha. Based. Not sure if trashmap runs on windows as far as i remember it heavily depends on linux. But you can just run a regular ddnet server the same way as you would run it on your pc and it just works

ok i installed lunix.

triki

guys i have free own server 24/7 and i wanna add trash map for ru it is possible? can someone help me? server on win 10. (edited)

rn i have linux. and no idea how it work can some one help?

Image attachment

Mr.Gh0s7

I just found out about btop :O

anything beyond grep /proc/* is bloat

triki

rn i have linux. and no idea how it work can some one help?

curl -O https://ddnet.org/downloads/DDNet-17.4-linux_x86_64.tar.xz

17:28

this command will download DDNet client and server

17:28

you'll need to extract it with tar -xf DDNet-17.4-linux_x86_64.tar.xz

Mr.Gh0s7

curl -O https://ddnet.org/downloads/DDNet-17.4-linux_x86_64.tar.xz

done

Mr.Gh0s7

curl -O https://ddnet.org/downloads/DDNet-17.4-linux_x86_64.tar.xz

can we voice plz?

justatest

Mr.Gh0s7

justatest

ok(

Mr.Gh0s7

justatest

i wanna run this https://github.com/timakro/ddnet-trashmap

I am confused do you want to run a DDNet server or a DDNet hosting service such as ddnet-trashmap?

Mr.Gh0s7

I am confused do you want to run a DDNet server or a DDNet hosting service such as ddnet-trashmap?

second (trash map) (edited)

Hmm sorry, I missunderstood. I have no experience with hosting such services so I can't provide help

Mr.Gh0s7

Hmm sorry, I missunderstood. I have no experience with hosting such services so I can't provide help

i have expirience, but no idea how on lunix.

Mr.Gh0s7

I just found out about btop :O

yes it's good good

Mr.Gh0s7

Hmm sorry, I missunderstood. I have no experience with hosting such services so I can't provide help

i need basics on lunix , i dont know how do it. if some one just help me it will save 100x time for me.

@heinrich5991 https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/118457

Add support for gen fn by eholk · Pull Request #118457 · rust-lan...

This builds on #116447 to add support for gen fn functions. For the most part we follow the same approach as desugaring async fn, but replacing Future with Iterator and async {} with gen {} for the...

:))

is this in stable rust !!?!?!

@triki wget the file as someone said

its merged

ReiTW

@triki wget the file as someone said

what?

<ChillerDragon> i wonder what the b in btop stands for hehe

gen fn count_to_three() -> i32 {
    yield 1;
    yield 2;
    yield 3;
}

17:40

@Jupstar ✪ big!!

17:40

generator functions

17:40

https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/117078

Tracking Issue for gen blocks and functions · Issue #117078 · rus...

This is a tracking issue for the RFC "#3513" (rust-lang/rfcs#3513). The feature gate for the issue is #![feature(gen_blocks)]. About tracking issues Tracking issues are used to record the...

17:40

ah nv

17:40

its behind a feature

17:40

xd

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> i wonder what the b in btop stands for hehe

what u say now?

Implement the RFC (happening in Implement gen blocks in the 2024 edition #116447)

17:41

looks like it will come in rust 2024 edition

in not windows user now im begginer lunix

@triki

wget https://ddnet.org/downloads/DDNet-17.4-linux_x86_64.tar.xz
tar -xvf DDNet-17.4-linux_x86_64.tar.xz
cd DDNet-17.4-linux
# create the autoexec-server.cfg
chmod +x DDNet-Server
./DDNet-Server -f autoexec-server.cfg

(edited)

ReiTW

@triki

wget https://ddnet.org/downloads/DDNet-17.4-linux_x86_64.tar.xz
tar -xvf DDNet-17.4-linux_x86_64.tar.xz
cd DDNet-17.4-linux
# create the autoexec-server.cfg
chmod +x DDNet-Server
./DDNet-Server -f autoexec-server.cfg

(edited)

but waht about trash map?

17:42

i need run it first, no? (edited)

Ryozuki

gen fn count_to_three() -> i32 {
    yield 1;
    yield 2;
    yield 3;
}

consteval?

ah u want to setup a trashmap srv

17:42

I think ddnet hosts them

17:42

idk how tho

ReiTW

idk how tho

just help me download and run it

@triki ok

ReiTW

@triki

wget https://ddnet.org/downloads/DDNet-17.4-linux_x86_64.tar.xz
tar -xvf DDNet-17.4-linux_x86_64.tar.xz
cd DDNet-17.4-linux
# create the autoexec-server.cfg
chmod +x DDNet-Server
./DDNet-Server -f autoexec-server.cfg

(edited)

done

ReiTW

done

trash map

17:43

not ddnet (edited)

ReiTW

done

https://github.com/timakro/ddnet-trashmap this one

for trashmap you don't host your own server

17:44

you send ur map to the page & it'll host it for you

just help me run it

https://trashmap.ddnet.org/

on server

bro, read lmao

ReiTW

bro, read lmao

zzzz.

ReiTW

bro, read lmao

i wanna host it for rus server (edited)

google translate

ReiTW

you send ur map to the page & it'll host it for you

why u say my what trash map do? i know it

17:46

i just wanna run it on lunix cus i first time lunix.

17:46

i just wanna start server(trashmap), thats all.

17:47

i wanna add new one host location

17:47

for trash map

You're misunderstanding what is DDNet Trashmap. DDNet trashmap allows you to just send your .map file and it'll host it for you. If you want to run your own server I've already sent you above

ReiTW

@triki

wget https://ddnet.org/downloads/DDNet-17.4-linux_x86_64.tar.xz
tar -xvf DDNet-17.4-linux_x86_64.tar.xz
cd DDNet-17.4-linux
# create the autoexec-server.cfg
chmod +x DDNet-Server
./DDNet-Server -f autoexec-server.cfg

(edited)

^

fck this(

triki

i wanna add new one host location

this you can't, unless you ask ddnet staff lol

ReiTW

this you can't, unless you ask ddnet staff lol

first of all i need start it

ReiTW

this you can't, unless you ask ddnet staff lol

plz help me run file "trashmap.py" (edited)

17:49

thats all.

Ig it requires dependencies that are not even listed

17:50

@timakro where's installation doc

ReiTW

Ig it requires dependencies that are not even listed

it's just need download and run

17:51

nothink special

17:52

aa fuck next time, lunix got me and this py. (edited)

<ChillerDragon> @triki there is a bunch of hardcodet paths in /srv/trashmap so you have to move everything to the expected location. It also needs a deamon running it is recommended to use systemd for that. There are no docs so you have to read through the code it will be a bit of effort

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> @triki there is a bunch of hardcodet paths in /srv/trashmap so you have to move everything to the expected location. It also needs a deamon running it is recommended to use systemd for that. There are no docs so you have to read through the code it will be a bit of effort

ok look like its more harder then i expected.

<ChillerDragon> Basically all of this https://github.com/timakro/ddnet-trashmap/tree/master/srv has to be at /srv/trashmap/srv and you also have to rename the files to not have a .default in the end

ddnet-trashmap/srv at master · timakro/ddnet-trashmap

DDNet Trashmap is a service for mappers who can't host their own servers - timakro/ddnet-trashmap

18:03

<ChillerDragon> and adapt the valzes

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18:09

[ddnet/ddnet-trashmap] Pull request opened: #2 Port daemon_control.py to python3

woah deen followed the first person on github

ReiTW

@timakro where's installation doc

There isn't sorry

19:15

It boils down to serving the files in www with apache/nginx and having the teeworlds.py daemon running in the background

!

Voxel

!

Command not found!

https://github.com/laxa/systems-stuff

GitHub - laxa/systems-stuff: Hardening/cleaning of systems

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https://vxtwitter.com/ScottDavidKeefe/status/1732440398423867472 (edited)

(@ScottDavidKeefe)

OK Bard just beat the shit out of GPT4 in my coding test for a simple CNN. 2 second render and much higher code quality.

235

20:10

its the end

Ryozuki

https://vxtwitter.com/ScottDavidKeefe/status/1732440398423867472 (edited)

have u seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIZAiXYceBI

Hands-on with Gemini: Interacting with multimodal AI

Ryozuki

https://vxtwitter.com/ScottDavidKeefe/status/1732440398423867472 (edited)

is that gpt4? I fucking need that rn

Devinci

is that gpt4? I fucking need that rn

bard uses the new gemini model(idk if they are using ultra or just pro) gpt 4 can get those same results, but from my experience is a bit more finicky ive seen from the gemini demos) (than wha and sometimes uses old deprecated methods, but if you are more explicitive with your prompts you can make it do anyrhing (edited)

bard or bart? never heard about bard

bard is googles chatgpt

ohhh

20:17

is it free? xd

not sure, i use gpt, google prob has some tiered pricing as well

20:18

api is 100% not free, but their chat prob has a free version

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if it's really not as trashy as gpt3.5 it might actually save me tons of time xd

20:20

Plus I've just seen it has access to internet so ig less deprecated stuff

20:22

Btw, does anyone know if openai has released some free api? I've had someone at work you told me that yes but I looked everywhere and tokens still had to be paid

Jupstar ✪

have u seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIZAiXYceBI

insane

Devinci

if it's really not as trashy as gpt3.5 it might actually save me tons of time xd

It is A LOT better than 3.5, so far nothing has really competed with gpt 4, but Gemini being announced has better benchmarks

Devinci

Btw, does anyone know if openai has released some free api? I've had someone at work you told me that yes but I looked everywhere and tokens still had to be paid

No free apis, there’s some third party services like jina.ai where you can use the apis for cheaper, and use APIs from all different LLMs, the free Apis would be to locally host an open source llm, and I’d recommend orca 2 13b, or mistral 7b for that

Skystrife

No free apis, there’s some third party services like jina.ai where you can use the apis for cheaper, and use APIs from all different LLMs, the free Apis would be to locally host an open source llm, and I’d recommend orca 2 13b, or mistral 7b for that

yeah but no openai alternative even for local ones right?

Devinci

yeah but no openai alternative even for local ones right?

OpenAI likes money, and that would just burn it

yy that's what I though.

20:25

tx anyways

Np, luckily open source stuff is getting a lot better and cheaper to run so we are gonna get that eventually

Jupstar ✪

have u seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIZAiXYceBI

man this is simply godlike

20:26

xd

20:26

google the evil corp yay

it's pretty insane yeah, if it's 100% true

the response time is sped up

20:28

but i think responses are real

on an official video they wont show you bad locking responses tho..

20:29

showcase video*

yeah

yep

but still

20:29

google is competing now

20:29

they are the owners of massive data

20:29

xd

tomorrow I'm gonna have fun pasting all my problems into that xd

Ryozuki

https://vxtwitter.com/ScottDavidKeefe/status/1732440398423867472 (edited)

pRoGRamMiNg

Jupstar ✪

have u seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIZAiXYceBI

This is insanely impressive, if it's not too cherry picked it's easily better than anything else I've seen

Learath2

This is insanely impressive, if it's not too cherry picked it's easily better than anything else I've seen

yep, i'd like to know the amount of cuts too

Learath2

This is insanely impressive, if it's not too cherry picked it's easily better than anything else I've seen

It’s definitely pretty cherry picked, but imo it’s a good view of what it would look like 6 months to a year from now. From the benchmark scores, it’s not THAT much better than gpt 4. The vision is significantly better but we knew that from a paper a while back. This video just demonstrates a lot of creative integrations of the multimodal model, and I think we are going to see a lot more coming out when the APIs get released

Jupstar ✪

have u seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIZAiXYceBI

oh this is really interesting

Skystrife

It’s definitely pretty cherry picked, but imo it’s a good view of what it would look like 6 months to a year from now. From the benchmark scores, it’s not THAT much better than gpt 4. The vision is significantly better but we knew that from a paper a while back. This video just demonstrates a lot of creative integrations of the multimodal model, and I think we are going to see a lot more coming out when the APIs get released

let's face it. it will be interesting if it gets arms and feet

20:59

and do stuff humans do at work

20:59

hand crafting

Jupstar ✪

and do stuff humans do at work

It’s already doing stuff that humans do at desk jobs, gptvision + puppeteer = vision can do whatever on your computer in real time

Jupstar ✪

let's face it. it will be interesting if it gets arms and feet

Also, google rt-2 is supposed to do that I’m pretty sure. They are training robotics using llm technology and simulations and were able to make a pen spinning simulation with real physics learned from nothing but standard hand movements. So that stuff is coming

yep

21:02

will be funny

21:03

peep, peep, peep AI voice 10.30$ please

Jupstar ✪

peep, peep, peep AI voice 10.30$ please

"your OS cought depression! - send it to therapy for only 29.99$"

xd

Ryozuki

https://vxtwitter.com/ScottDavidKeefe/status/1732440398423867472 (edited)

lmao when i asked bard for something it failed completely

Voxel

lmao when i asked bard for something it failed completely

Bard has been a complete joke of an ai until today, but it’s prob not even rolled out to everyone yet

damn, did it like, update or something?

Jupstar ✪

have u seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIZAiXYceBI

i enjoyed this at 2x speed up until it started generating pictures and music and shit

Voxel

i enjoyed this at 2x speed up until it started generating pictures and music and shit

YOU.... ENJOYED.... AI?

21:12

where does this shift come from

Voxel

damn, did it like, update or something?

https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/gemini/gemini_1_report.pdf New model from google is now the backend for it, but the chat is still called bard (edited)

Jupstar ✪

YOU.... ENJOYED.... AI?

dont rub it in

Skystrife

https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/gemini/gemini_1_report.pdf New model from google is now the backend for it, but the chat is still called bard (edited)

ohhh wait ok so bard uses gemini now

21:15

i am going to do nothing with this information by the way

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Voxel

i enjoyed this at 2x speed up until it started generating pictures and music and shit

What are your thoughts on the part where it generated images of crochet as inspiration for someone with colored string?

Skystrife

What are your thoughts on the part where it generated images of crochet as inspiration for someone with colored string?

i thought it was gross and tried to see any flaws/artifacts in its generations

21:20

i saw none and now im even more skeptical about how ppl are going to use this in the art medium

Imo that type of image generation is only used for the artist to get inspiration, then they can go and make a crochet thing of whatever they want. That’s more of the direction I hope ai art can go

Skystrife

Imo that type of image generation is only used for the artist to get inspiration, then they can go and make a crochet thing of whatever they want. That’s more of the direction I hope ai art can go

nah nah, people are going to use it to make "artwork" and praise the machine for making such generations

Voxel

i enjoyed this at 2x speed up until it started generating pictures and music and shit

i see you are playing the videogame ddracenetwork

cyberFighter

i see you are playing the videogame ddracenetwork

LOL'

where you control a tee

21:22

your tee seems to be in the red team and is shooting bullets at the blue enemy team

21:23

i advise you to stay away from your foes and stay near your friends instead

1

21:23

(drawing a black line over the screen with a marker)

Voxel

nah nah, people are going to use it to make "artwork" and praise the machine for making such generations

I know some people will, but I am hoping it can be beneficial to artists as well. There needs to be some sort of revenue share for generated art to the artists to really help, but that’s hard to do especially since everything is just open to everyone now

i see you are playing a moderate map

Skystrife

I know some people will, but I am hoping it can be beneficial to artists as well. There needs to be some sort of revenue share for generated art to the artists to really help, but that’s hard to do especially since everything is just open to everyone now

yeah, im honestly hoping for a convincing bridge for artists and machine learning to pair up without people abusing it

21:25

im just worried about trying it out because it just.. feels wrong?

Voxel

im just worried about trying it out because it just.. feels wrong?

I think about it like this. Amazing art used to be insanely difficult to make, but with the advent of stuff like adobe illustrator or Inkscape people can make really cool stuff pretty easily with all the tools. Humans like to see effort put into things so if no work is put in and one button is clicked I think that it won’t be as well received as something that uses ai to enhance what they’ve already put a lot of effort into

Skystrife

I think about it like this. Amazing art used to be insanely difficult to make, but with the advent of stuff like adobe illustrator or Inkscape people can make really cool stuff pretty easily with all the tools. Humans like to see effort put into things so if no work is put in and one button is clicked I think that it won’t be as well received as something that uses ai to enhance what they’ve already put a lot of effort into

that is EXACTLY my reasoning. why make art if theres no sweat put into it? art is made to express yourself, and it looking pretty is only half of it.

1

21:29

and like, i do not give a shit about the whole "AI IF THEFT AND THEY STEAL YOUR ARTWORK FOR DATA" mf your data is being harvested and being sold for profit (edited)

1

I think that we can get to that point with ai art, I’m very hopeful at least

Voxel

that is EXACTLY my reasoning. why make art if theres no sweat put into it? art is made to express yourself, and it looking pretty is only half of it.

I understand that point if you make art as a goal. For me art is more of something that I need if a want a complete project to stay valid. Let's say assets for a game, a cover for a document, some illustration for a video or whatever. So I'm really happy if I can avoid spending 5 years of my (short?) life to learn 1 more skill out of the endless skills there exists ^^

Devinci

I understand that point if you make art as a goal. For me art is more of something that I need if a want a complete project to stay valid. Let's say assets for a game, a cover for a document, some illustration for a video or whatever. So I'm really happy if I can avoid spending 5 years of my (short?) life to learn 1 more skill out of the endless skills there exists ^^

ask people to help you

Voxel

ask people to help you

Yeah, as if asking people was as easy as an ai xD. People need: -money -time -and can be a hassle to work with them

21:42

on the other hand I can instantly generate something kinda similar to what I want, for free, in no time, and with 1 click (and I expect it to improve).

21:42

You can't compare the benefits

Devinci

Yeah, as if asking people was as easy as an ai xD. People need: -money -time -and can be a hassle to work with them

mf listen to yourself, you sound like a fucking capitalist LOL

and let's imagine in the end I don't want to work on that project anymore. Well, I would ahve wasted 300$ and 2 weeks paying someone to do me some high quality stuff

UGH. people are SOOO hard to work with. imagine giving people MONEY and A GOOD TIME LIMIT

Voxel

mf listen to yourself, you sound like a fucking capitalist LOL

Yeah well, thanks for the compliment ig xd

i dont like you

Unlucky. You sadly can't please everyone

well good luck selling your game with ai slop graphics

21:44

you are proving my point exactly

I just enjoy easyness to do whatever I wish to create. AI is an extremely well made tool for that

Voxel

well good luck selling your game with ai slop graphics

well, I wont. But you got tones of games like that out there already

And it's not even been that long

21:45

there's even entire game jams made to promote ai on video games

Devinci

well, I wont. But you got tones of games like that out there already

And it's not even been that long

i have not heard about any of them (mostly because they probably suck or failed)

No. Because you are not interested in them. Which I clearly see

21:46

I'm not particularly a fan either

21:46

it's just eases everyone's work

21:46

so they have more time to do what they really enjoy ^^

like what?

like... everything you can think off?

21:47

with your spare time

making art

21:47

putting effort into my projects

Look Voxel, you like making art. not everyone does

Voxel

putting effort into my projects

that's exactly the point

ai isnt effort

21:48

this is exactly what im fighting against, people abusing ai so that they can laze out on their dream project

Voxel

ai isnt effort

Think about this: art is a lot more than just drawing. If I want to create a story, I could spend hundreds of hours meticulously choosing every story element, then I can use ai to bring that story to life even if I cannot draw well myself

Have you never used chatgpt to make a speech or anything for you? There are whole careers who their exact job is do to that. write. Are you also gonna tell me that eveyrone should contact some writer instead of chatgpt? (edited)

Voxel

this is exactly what im fighting against, people abusing ai so that they can laze out on their dream project

how is that lazing out xD. You are literally taking MORE TIME to look more into the details gameplay-coding wise for example

Skystrife

Think about this: art is a lot more than just drawing. If I want to create a story, I could spend hundreds of hours meticulously choosing every story element, then I can use ai to bring that story to life even if I cannot draw well myself

This could be done a lot better if I hired out a whole studio to produce it, but being able to do that alone is really cool to me

Devinci

Have you never used chatgpt to make a speech or anything for you? There are whole careers who their exact job is do to that. write. Are you also gonna tell me that eveyrone should contact some writer instead of chatgpt? (edited)

i only used it ONCE to help create 20 folders on my desktop bard failed. gpt failed. only bing's ai did it right and then when i had to create more i didnt even use ai i just did it manually (47 other folders by the way)

Devinci

how is that lazing out xD. You are literally taking MORE TIME to look more into the details gameplay-coding wise for example

meaning it'd probably look better anyways

can't you jsut copy paste folders on finders... well anyways. I'm sorry that you don't enjoy the "progree" (for me and a lot of persons) that ai is making

i really try to, but then i remember that ai's purpose is to replace us, not help us

Voxel

meaning it'd probably look better anyways

Yeah, when you have complete studios to make your animations, sprites, and whatnot sure. When you are a SOLO dev. and you want to make you SOLO project. you don't necessarily want to spec 5 years learning that new skill

Voxel

i really try to, but then i remember that ai's purpose is to replace us, not help us

it's made to help us. If it's replacing anyone it just means we are doing a pretty poor job

Voxel

meaning it'd probably look better anyways

That means that YOU will just have better work than ai generated crap with no effort. To the people who aren’t artists, it allows them to use a new skill they never had

Devinci

it's made to help us. If it's replacing anyone it just means we are doing a pretty poor job

sorry for not being on some high pedistal that can create masterpieces, i guess

21:52

if you really have that mindset then i think something is wrong with you

Are you telling me art made by humans is useless nowadays? xd

https://youtu.be/VlbT4OshVLs?t=461

Doomed To Be Replaced: What Will AI Replace?

if I wanted something niche for a refined project I doubt an ia could get me exactly what I want

21:54

idk. I feel like you are being overly negative towards this

Devinci

idk. I feel like you are being overly negative towards this

I think their feelings are perfectly valid, ai is going to destroy a lot of jobs, and it is very scary. I think it is possible to think of in a way that the jobs are just changing not going away

Skystrife

I think their feelings are perfectly valid, ai is going to destroy a lot of jobs, and it is very scary. I think it is possible to think of in a way that the jobs are just changing not going away

The feelings you just described are. But for me Voxel is just 20 steps further than that, which I do not agree with

kind of ironic how your username is Devinci, which sounds like the last name of the guy Who Painted The Mona Lisa

He was also an engineer

21:57

that guy was all in 1

yeah but at least he actually made his art

Devinci

The feelings you just described are. But for me Voxel is just 20 steps further than that, which I do not agree with

Someone not fully understanding potential of a field that you definitely have a lot of knowledge in doesn’t mean they are wrong or that you are wrong

and he also made tools to help him on his projects ^^

ok but his tools did not just shit out some brush strokes for him

Voxel go make the computers you use by hand. Components included. Why use machines to do that for us.... That was an extreme comparison but that's a bit my feelings towards your argument

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strawman fallacy

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Sticker

Not really, as it was only a comparison. Well anyways, I will only say 1 more thing. Ai is just a tool, made to ease everyone's daily tasks. Nowadays it is just not possible for 1 single human to be competent on every single subject there is, so ai comes in handy when working alone. Working with people requires a lot more time, a lot more organization, and a long list of cons (also pros, but that's not the point), that aren't really worth to go into when you aren't sure how invested you are into your project ^^

Devinci

Not really, as it was only a comparison. Well anyways, I will only say 1 more thing. Ai is just a tool, made to ease everyone's daily tasks. Nowadays it is just not possible for 1 single human to be competent on every single subject there is, so ai comes in handy when working alone. Working with people requires a lot more time, a lot more organization, and a long list of cons (also pros, but that's not the point), that aren't really worth to go into when you aren't sure how invested you are into your project ^^

I think both of y’all are strawmen rn

justatest

is the http code api stable in ddnet now or is someone planning a refactor on jobs or http request code?

i think learath is actively working on async http

ohno

23:53

ok i wait with using it then

https://deepmind.google/technologies/gemini/#introduction

Gemini - Google DeepMind

Gemini is built from the ground up for multimodality — reasoning seamlessly across image, video, audio, and code.

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