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TsFreddie 2023-11-20 09:14:12Z
justatest among us is landing on PICO devices
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Ryozuki
@Learath2 watch sousou no frieren
Dreamless 2023-11-20 11:55:39Z
This will be the second reccomendation that I'm gonna watch, from u (the other one being oshi no ko) xD Thanks for sharing. Or should I check the ranking on mal more often xd when something gets some level of attention, I have to check it myself what that element is
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Ryozuki 2023-11-20 13:16:36Z
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3WkJq478To
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Synthwave/Electric Mixtape I | For Study/Relax
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Overlord 2023-11-20 19:44:31Z
do U guys consider alcohol cheap nowdays or not really?
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Overlord
do U guys consider alcohol cheap nowdays or not really?
Learath2 2023-11-20 19:50:02Z
not really
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Learath2
not really
Overlord 2023-11-20 19:51:10Z
i think its way easier and cheaper to get hammered than in the past?
19:51
as alcohol is often stronger for cheaper price
19:51
before U had to drink a lot of dilluted stuff
19:52
for example i could drink 0.5l bottle of wine everynight and it would only be 1/11th of my daily pay and i earn minimum
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 19:55:22Z
will likely depend a lot on the country
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Overlord 2023-11-20 20:02:51Z
btw im not talking about quality alcohol, but just getting drunk, shouldnt it be "sameish" in every country?
20:03
else people in venezuela / indonesia wouldnt be able to get hammered
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Overlord
btw im not talking about quality alcohol, but just getting drunk, shouldnt it be "sameish" in every country?
heinrich5991 2023-11-20 20:03:47Z
nah, ask the scandinavian countries
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Learath2 2023-11-20 20:04:05Z
extremely expensive to get drunk in the nordics 😄
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heinrich5991
nah, ask the scandinavian countries
Overlord 2023-11-20 20:04:23Z
its more of being forbidden there (edited)
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Learath2 2023-11-20 20:04:43Z
and expensive
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Overlord 2023-11-20 20:04:47Z
as in even if U have cash, they wont sell U bigger amounts easily
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Overlord
as in even if U have cash, they wont sell U bigger amounts easily
heinrich5991 2023-11-20 20:05:11Z
got a source on that?
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Overlord 2023-11-20 20:05:12Z
good thing in my country i can be sad alcoholic whenever i decide to!
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 20:05:19Z
I doubt supermarkets stop you from buying alcohol there
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heinrich5991
got a source on that?
Overlord 2023-11-20 20:05:21Z
bananawizard
20:05
is a friend of mine
20:05
i didnt check myself and i have never been there
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 20:05:39Z
that's not a source I can verify
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Overlord 2023-11-20 20:05:52Z
lets fly to nordics together eh?
20:06
we can see north cape / north kapp
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 20:09:41Z
I'm sure you could find something on the internet about that
20:10
if you can indeed not buy quantities of alcohol in the supermarket that will get you drunk
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Overlord 2023-11-20 20:11:25Z
this getting drunk thing is very interesting @heinrich5991 (not nordics) how come weaker alcohol gets, some people (me) more drunk than stronger one in higher amounts?
20:11
or is it about how fast U chug it?
20:12
they're all results of fermentation afterall
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 20:12:23Z
it is also about how fast you drink it
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Overlord 2023-11-20 20:14:05Z
afaik it's also about fatty foods consumed in stomach prior to drinking, but talking about empty stomach ach well i should just shut up
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heinrich5991
if you can indeed not buy quantities of alcohol in the supermarket that will get you drunk
Learath2 2023-11-20 20:15:03Z
You can't buy spirits in the supermarket in Sweden. Anything above 3.5% ABV can only be sold at Systembolaget a government owned chain
20:15
Though I'm not aware of any limits on purchases
20:15
Closed on Sundays, I guess that could count as a limit 😄
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 20:16:12Z
(pretty much) all shops are closed on sundays in germany
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Overlord 2023-11-20 20:16:45Z
closed shops on sundays is terrible idea, imo that poland adopted for few years
20:16
i hope it gets changed though, because it's circumvented anyway
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Overlord
closed shops on sundays is terrible idea, imo that poland adopted for few years
heinrich5991 2023-11-20 20:17:14Z
why's that? works pretty well for germany
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Learath2 2023-11-20 20:17:29Z
Apparently they also won't sell you if you already look drunk, so that's another limit 😄
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 20:17:33Z
the upside of it is that everyone has time for their families and friends at the same time
20:17
the downside is lost flexibility for when you can buy groceries
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heinrich5991
why's that? works pretty well for germany
Overlord 2023-11-20 20:18:40Z
well there are things that work in germany, but dont anywhere else
20:18
for example, the law here, only disallows chains of shops tbh
20:19
so the way to go aroudn this is, to become owner of specific shop in a %
20:19
also gas stations started selling meat ( some not all ) since the law came in
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:19:39Z
When I have time to do groceries da fakin store is always closed
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Overlord 2023-11-20 20:19:50Z
chiller true af
20:20
saturday = resting day, sunday = do things U didnt have to before
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:20:08Z
Heinrich living the Berlin life with 100 spätis near by. He can go shopping 24/7 (edited)
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 20:20:48Z
I don't go to spätis
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:21:10Z
._.
20:21
I wish we had some in Munich
20:21
Wanna trade flats?
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 20:21:37Z
muinch is like 20 o'clock everything shutdown right?
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:21:45Z
Yea
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 20:21:51Z
xd
20:22
but berlin is ugly, come to west germany
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:22:19Z
Berlin is pog
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 20:22:36Z
i was at mcdonalds in berlin once
20:22
it's a completely different world
20:22
xD
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:23:18Z
Xd
20:23
What do you do at McDonald’s?
20:23
Fries and apfeltasche?
20:23
Coffee and ice?
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 20:23:38Z
can't remember tbh, was like 15 years ago xD
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:23:43Z
Vegan burgers????
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 20:23:51Z
vegan didnt even exist back then xdddd
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:23:54Z
When you were 15 there were no vegan option
20:23
Yes
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Overlord 2023-11-20 20:23:58Z
any of U ever been to Markthalle Neune in berlin?
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:24:09Z
Yea
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chillerdragon
When you were 15 there were no vegan option
Learath2 2023-11-20 20:24:16Z
Mcdonal has been selling salads since forever
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:24:24Z
I mean burgers
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 20:24:32Z
🤓
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:24:33Z
They new
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 20:25:25Z
go to netherlands
20:25
where the girls are double in height than you
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:26:29Z
Yes Netherlands high
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Learath2 2023-11-20 20:29:46Z
Netherlan is cool
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 20:30:21Z
depends, their bread sucks hard
20:30
😂
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Overlord 2023-11-20 20:30:31Z
sweet bread.... delicious...
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:30:36Z
lerato let’s do teecon in Amsterdam
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 20:30:51Z
i live close to netherlands
20:30
i can come
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Overlord 2023-11-20 20:33:36Z
do U guys often buy useless stuff? an example
20:33
a flashlight for 400€ instead of one for 80€?
20:33
despite using it few times a year? or its just me
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 20:34:26Z
no, I try to avoid that
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gerdoe 2023-11-20 20:34:38Z
400 euro is kinda
20:34
too much for a flashlight
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 20:34:51Z
my phone cost less than that ^^
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gerdoe 2023-11-20 20:34:55Z
^
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Overlord
a flashlight for 400€ instead of one for 80€?
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 20:35:08Z
if u need a flashlight then i guess doesnt matter what price u pay
20:35
but if u buy a flashlight just to buy stuff
20:35
that's smth i'd not do
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:36:09Z
If you just need any flashlight can also go for cheaper alternatives
Replying to @Jupstar ✪ if u need a flashlight then i guess doesnt matter what price u pay
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chillerdragon
If you just need any flashlight can also go for cheaper alternatives
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 20:36:32Z
yes, but i also like quality
20:36
if it's higher quality i'd probs prefer that
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:36:53Z
My phone costs more but has a built in flashlight :p
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 20:36:58Z
xd
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:37:19Z
I bought a 200 euro flashlight pro app for better lumen
20:37
Average apple enjoyer
Replying to @Jupstar ✪ if it's higher quality i'd probs prefer that
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Jupstar ✪
if u need a flashlight then i guess doesnt matter what price u pay
Overlord 2023-11-20 20:42:18Z
i already own a flashlight for a year and im pretty umm content with it, albeit sometimes i think about a new one (there's basically nothing wrong with the one i have, and i dont have more use cases to justify another flashlight)
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Overlord
i already own a flashlight for a year and im pretty umm content with it, albeit sometimes i think about a new one (there's basically nothing wrong with the one i have, and i dont have more use cases to justify another flashlight)
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 20:49:47Z
dunno, i have to say chiller is kinda right.. phone flash lights are good enough 😂
20:50
or do you want to light the space xd
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Jupstar ✪
dunno, i have to say chiller is kinda right.. phone flash lights are good enough 😂
Overlord 2023-11-20 20:52:30Z
phone flaslights are nowhere near good enough lol, ever been to forest at night?
20:52
shit phone flaslight sees max up to 25m
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-11-20 20:53:06Z
We don’t go outside no
20:53
I use my phone flashlight to find the fridge during night time
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chillerdragon
I use my phone flashlight to find the fridge during night time
Overlord 2023-11-20 20:56:28Z
same, but i also used to go out at night and it's pretty scary in animal territory
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Overlord
same, but i also used to go out at night and it's pretty scary in animal territory
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:09:54Z
see that was a missing detail
21:10
so u have a hobby where u need it
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:13:04Z
not anymore, just used to
21:13
also not gonna lie, i believe flaslight is better for self defense than tear gas (edited)
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:13:47Z
yeah
21:13
i also thought about that few times 😄
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:19:30Z
laws are the problem, U blind somone, and now U gotta pay em
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imo if somone attacks U, by either coming to Ur house at night uninvited, or just simply physically attacking U on street, he forfeits most of his citizen privelages
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:20:12Z
well if it's an act of self-defense it should be ok
21:20
u can even kill a person then
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:20:39Z
idk about rest of europe but law of equivalent reaction (of used force) is terrible
21:20
example, attacker has a knife U have a gun, U cant legally use the gun to save urself
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:21:09Z
mhh in germany it should be legal (if you are allowed to carry guns)
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 21:21:38Z
if that's your only option, yes
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:22:19Z
overall, these days the laws really dont care too much about citizenry, unless it comes to taxes!
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 21:22:53Z
sounds good? all humans should have the same rights IMO
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:23:27Z
does that mean, citizens of spain should have exactly same rights as citizens of japan?
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 21:23:40Z
if they are in spain, yes
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:23:43Z
or more like the UN stuff? as in watah is human right
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:24:04Z
i think u mean globally the same rights?
21:24
not in a specific country?
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:24:13Z
well, I dont think it should work that way, otherwise we would have spies everywhere (not like we dont already do)
21:24
kinda like USA doesnt export their top of the line gear (nightvision and stuff)
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I think out of all countries only in NK, foreigners earn same punishments as locals
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because more often than not, "normal" countries just send the criminal over and he is judged locally
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 21:29:27Z
I don't think that happens
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(?)
21:29
if you murder someone in spain, you're going to get trialled in spain
21:29
not in poland
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chillerdragon
lerato let’s do teecon in Amsterdam
Ryozuki 2023-11-20 21:30:43Z
barcelona
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:30:56Z
depends on severity of crime, also i would rather be trialled and jailed in spain than in trolland
21:31
@Ryozuki travel the world, leave barcelona, and meet ddnet enjoyers somewhere out of spain
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Overlord
depends on severity of crime, also i would rather be trialled and jailed in spain than in trolland
heinrich5991 2023-11-20 21:31:55Z
got a citation for that?
21:32
AFAIK it's not true, you'll always be trialled in spain, not poland, if you commit the crime in spain
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:36:45Z
idk article 109 of criminal law in poland kinda has two cases, for this, 1. U commited it in a sovereignless state. 2. U comitted a crime as a representative (might be even extremelly low level )
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(article 109 K.K) of polish law if U want to google that
21:38
also apparently with 114, U can be judged and even jailed in spain, and then FOR SAME CRIME get jailed in poland (albeit with the reduced time of what U did in spain)
21:38
eg. spain believes U deserve 4 years, and poland that U deserve 10, U do 4 years in spain and then extra 6 in poland
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and according to the law and treaties, there's also option, of this... spain trials U, decides U have to serve 3 years in polish prison, and poland approves
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 21:40:02Z
I mean that sounds okayish to me
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:40:19Z
i think being judged twice for same crime shouldn't be allowed?
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it's like getting canned for spilling milk by ur mom, then comes the dad 5h later and beats U again
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 21:42:34Z
I think this one is okayish, poland doesn't add its penalty, but only makes sure you serve the length they want you to serve
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:44:04Z
but penalty doesnt have to be time, could be cash
21:45
either way, these things (atleast in their origin) were supposed to rehabilitate the person
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 21:45:27Z
yes
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:45:35Z
so idk if punishing somone twice would lead to anything
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pilonpl 2023-11-20 21:47:10Z
I feel like there is too much punishment for breaking the law
21:47
Like
21:47
Jail only makes sense if you're dangerous
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To others
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 21:47:32Z
can you give an example?
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pilonpl 2023-11-20 21:48:56Z
Well
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pilonpl
Jail only makes sense if you're dangerous
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:49:20Z
i dunno bro. when u treated like a slave by someone would that count as dangerous?
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pilonpl 2023-11-20 21:49:41Z
Maybe
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:50:16Z
then the definition is probably hard to do
21:50
and will result in what we have rn
21:50
xd
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pilonpl 2023-11-20 21:50:26Z
I feel like punishments ignore the actual reason why people commit crimes
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:50:52Z
well, they should still be punished for the crime, despite the reason
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:50:52Z
if u mean like, a pedo gets less punishment than smone that does illegal uploads (edited)
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:50:55Z
unless it's self defense
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:51:07Z
these are probs the hard topics
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pilonpl 2023-11-20 21:51:16Z
Is it really the best option to put people in jail for everything?
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:51:28Z
if they're poor yes, atleast according to what we have now
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pilonpl
Is it really the best option to put people in jail for everything?
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:51:28Z
probably not, but what else?
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we don't have enough ppl to do baby sitting for all criminals xD (edited)
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:52:06Z
imo criminals should be put to work like they do in america ( but dont privatise jails like in america)
21:52
how is it a punishment, if U have constant human contact eh? U might even make more friends than people outside
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Overlord
how is it a punishment, if U have constant human contact eh? U might even make more friends than people outside
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:52:53Z
wow, so u want to create psychopaths xD
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:52:59Z
also if U havent worked for 3 years ( due to crime ) then how will U suddenly integrate into slaveish 8h long workday
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Jupstar ✪
wow, so u want to create psychopaths xD
Overlord 2023-11-20 21:53:16Z
no, give them random jobs, and rotate the people they work with
21:53
so they dont go buddy buddy with each other
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:53:43Z
it probably depends too much on the person anyway
21:53
if they'd give me a computer, i'd not need so much social contacts 😂
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pilonpl
Is it really the best option to put people in jail for everything?
heinrich5991 2023-11-20 21:53:59Z
can you give an example? not every crime is met with jail time in germany
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:54:02Z
also light offenders, should actually get jobs outside under supervision (when it's 6 months till their release)
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Jupstar ✪
if they'd give me a computer, i'd not need so much social contacts 😂
Overlord 2023-11-20 21:54:18Z
they would give U a macbook, with no internet
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Overlord
they would give U a macbook, with no internet
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:54:29Z
after jail u best coder
21:54
he came out of nowhere
21:54
😬
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:54:50Z
he came out of jail, noone will hire U!
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btw here, (in trolland) after X years Ur crime is "deleted" from the records
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Overlord
he came out of jail, noone will hire U!
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:55:24Z
tbh not everyone wants to know your whole life story
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:55:26Z
but it might still prevent U from getting the job, because the official statement of judgement is not revoked
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Jupstar ✪
tbh not everyone wants to know your whole life story
Overlord 2023-11-20 21:55:45Z
true, some people just want to get their program!
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pilonpl 2023-11-20 21:56:25Z
I wonder how many murderers are actually bad people
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:56:26Z
either way, give the criminals work, ofc give them holidays aswell, treat them.. god forgive me for saying it... humane!
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pilonpl
I wonder how many murderers are actually bad people
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:56:49Z
u know good and bad... very very hard
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most murderers have reasons
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pilonpl
I wonder how many murderers are actually bad people
heinrich5991 2023-11-20 21:57:01Z
what do you mean by "bad people"?
21:57
everyone seems to be good in their own story
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heinrich5991
everyone seems to be good in their own story
Overlord 2023-11-20 21:57:22Z
i think some might realise, they're the baddies
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pilonpl 2023-11-20 21:57:25Z
I mean, most people probably wouldn't consider killing ok
21:57
And might do it in anger or something like that
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pilonpl
I mean, most people probably wouldn't consider killing ok
heinrich5991 2023-11-20 21:57:45Z
you can think of no situation where you consider killing okay?
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pilonpl
I mean, most people probably wouldn't consider killing ok
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:57:53Z
yeah but then u didnt have a reason yet 😂
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Overlord 2023-11-20 21:58:14Z
imo killing under influence (of either drugs or emotions) should be same penalty as planned murder
21:58
unless it truly was an accident, aka i hit him with a hammer, but didnt really mean it!
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Overlord
imo killing under influence (of either drugs or emotions) should be same penalty as planned murder
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:58:48Z
oh yeah that one sucks hard
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pilonpl
I mean, most people probably wouldn't consider killing ok
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 21:59:09Z
if i'd be a real slave like in antique, with my current knowledge, i could not know if i wouldn't consider it tbh
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Jupstar ✪
if i'd be a real slave like in antique, with my current knowledge, i could not know if i wouldn't consider it tbh
Overlord 2023-11-20 22:00:01Z
slaves atleast in europe, were oftentimes on contracts, and/if they were spoils of war, they still had a chance to become commoner
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dont give up @Jupstar ✪ if U time travel by accident, carve Ur way to nobility!
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Overlord
slaves atleast in europe, were oftentimes on contracts, and/if they were spoils of war, they still had a chance to become commoner
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 22:00:36Z
if you'd live in 1933 with the current knowledge.. u'd probably also consider it
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Overlord 2023-11-20 22:00:58Z
if i lived in 1933, with my current knowledge, and my current location
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Overlord
slaves atleast in europe, were oftentimes on contracts, and/if they were spoils of war, they still had a chance to become commoner
heinrich5991 2023-11-20 22:00:58Z
got a citation for that? I doubt that most slaves could get out of it
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Overlord 2023-11-20 22:01:11Z
i would... get the hell out of here, and probably end up working as plumber or carpenter in the end
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pilonpl 2023-11-20 22:01:40Z
Btw if free will doesn't exist then why would we punish anyone for anything
22:01
We kind of just assume that people can choose
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heinrich5991
got a citation for that? I doubt that most slaves could get out of it
Overlord 2023-11-20 22:02:06Z
are U trying to put me to actual work to look for stuff?
22:02
U're a real slave driver!!! badum tss
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 22:03:49Z
In most cases u don't need to kill
22:04
I'd generally say. Prevention over action
22:04
But ofc also not always easy
22:04
This is probably a impossible to answer thing^^
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pilonpl 2023-11-20 22:04:54Z
What do you guys think is the right decision in the trolley problem?
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Overlord 2023-11-20 22:05:05Z
@heinrich5991 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servitude
Indentured servitude
Indentured servitude is a form of labor in which a person is contracted to work without salary for a specific number of years. The contract, called an "indenture", may be entered "voluntarily" for purported eventual compensation or debt repayment, or it may be imposed "involuntarily" as a judicial punishment. Historically, it has been used to pa...
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tho polish name actually uses word slave than servitude
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@Jupstar ✪ killing in the past was weird too, because U could be a murderer somewhere, and just shy 300km away start a happy new life (especially if U were bilingual)
22:07
btw not to sound racist but search engines seem kinda biased nowdays
22:08
unless in last few years, slavery only affects black people
22:08
it used to be way easier to find articles about domestic slavery
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 22:16:54Z
doesn't seem like that to me: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sklaven&t=ffab&ia=web
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22:17
sklaven means slaves in german
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sklaven means slaves in german
Overlord 2023-11-20 22:19:51Z
untill i myself used polish i had troubles in searching
22:20
but england is imo important part of europe and slave trading
22:20
damn Americans and their...flips card... hijacking of english language
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heinrich5991 2023-11-20 22:21:37Z
the US was a british colony. what language are they supposed to speak? ^^
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Overlord 2023-11-20 22:22:14Z
portugese obviously!
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 22:23:33Z
It's quite interesting that modern society works okish. I wonder if it will actually break apart. I wonder how huge the role of wealth actually is. I wonder how society would be if e.g. work is completely optional
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Chairn 2023-11-20 22:25:46Z
you need to work at least 8 hours a week to not be depressed, as far as i remember from some psychological study
22:26
work here could be any associative activity, not necessarily company work
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work here could be any associative activity, not necessarily company work
Overlord 2023-11-20 22:27:00Z
more than 30h a week of company work, do reverse of that!
22:27
I guess same reasoning as in poison in small qunatities is actually remedy
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you need to work at least 8 hours a week to not be depressed, as far as i remember from some psychological study
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 22:28:08Z
Wtf xd But yeah as you said.. any work
22:28
Watching YouTube is work too 😬
22:28
Nowadays at least xdd
22:29
Discussing with randoms in the Internet too xdd
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Overlord 2023-11-20 22:29:17Z
imo manual labour is healthier than abstract labour, but it's hard nowdays to have sensible rewardable manual labour that is not due to employment
22:29
it's not like U can go and chop wood for Ur fire place... because U dont own a fireplace, or a tree that U could cut
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Chairn 2023-11-20 22:29:38Z
afair, you need to feel like you help society in some way, so you need to "work" for society as a whole
22:30
and they found a minimum of 8 hours per week, otherwise people were more depressed than people working more than 8 hours
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 22:30:44Z
I dunno. I guess depends on person. I liked doing random educational projects just for my self more, than developing some trash app for some ppl because we don't replace those by machines xd
22:31
Not like i need to read studies to know how i live and what i like lmao
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Not like i need to read studies to know how i live and what i like lmao
Overlord 2023-11-20 22:32:06Z
what are Ur hobbies?
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Overlord
what are Ur hobbies?
Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 22:32:30Z
Dunno coding, gaming. In summer football
22:32
Guess that sums it up basically
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Overlord 2023-11-20 22:33:46Z
alright, how did U find out U like those, by trying? or U have seen somone do it and thought damn i might like it?
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 22:35:38Z
For coding i can say i really liked doing text base games back when i started. Later wanted graphical content etc. So kind of bcs of school. Gaming bcs that's mainstream and there are many different games. And if u have friends even shit games can be fun Football i guess mostly bcs i really liked it as kid
22:36
I dunno where the actual starting points for these were
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Overlord 2023-11-20 22:36:23Z
it all started the day U were born!
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 22:36:30Z
Easy
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Overlord 2023-11-20 22:36:34Z
i think I shall wish U a wonderful night tho
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because im just a wagie
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or how wikipedia said it in servitude
22:36
and i need to appease my overlords tomorrow by showing up!
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-11-20 22:36:57Z
Ok night
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