DDraceNetwork - developer

linux has: wine and proton windows has: wsl and wslg macos has: final cut pro

Teero

hey is there a easy way to completely isolate instances of CGameWorld in the clientside prediction?

If you value your sanity, don't touch that

Learath2

If you value your sanity, don't touch that

the entity system already dragged me into the pits of hell

TsFreddie

linux has: wine and proton windows has: wsl and wslg macos has: final cut pro

macos also comes on machines that you can show the general public and be proud of

Teero

the entity system already dragged me into the pits of hell

The person you want to talk to is trml, only they know, but the tiniest order changes will change behaviour if you are not careful as prediction has to be perfectly in sync with the server

yea I noticed.....

Patiga

https://gitlab.com/Patiga/ddnet-godot

wait how do i install this and test it

is there a way to host a server without using docker?

3:04AM

maybe there's a node js port or smth??

3:04AM

idk

3:05AM

I straight up can't use docker for some reason

3:06AM

sorry if this question is kinda stupid(?

Voxel

if we ever set up a lighting system we gotta get images that pair with normal maps

3:14AM

i wish there was a way to cell-shade normal mapping in godot

Voxel

holy moly

3:16AM

normal maps my beloved

true

Blazulite

is there a way to host a server without using docker?

@Voxel sorry for the ping but, do u know if that's possible?

i dont

oh

3:33AM

it's okie, thx anyway ^^

ddnet-maps

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

54bbd5c M DeadCore 1, A Shotgoon - ddnet-maps

Oh yikes what made you think you need docker? For teeworlds/ddnet servers you totally do not need docker to host it. What trauma did you go through to even think that? In which situation were you forced to use docker?

Replying to @Blazulite is there a way to host a server without using docker?

does someone knows how to modify speed, weapons, gravity and things like that when i host a trashmap server?

tune zones

without modifying the map

8:50AM

like with commands

8:50AM

or rcon

i am not sure if you can do that tbh

i just saw someone does it

but the command would be called tune

8:52AM

in rcon

wait lemme see

tune gravity 0.25

8:54AM

theres no tune gravity

Voxel

wait how do i install this and test it

1. git clone the repository 2. run cargo build in the rust directory 3. in the godot editor, open the godot folder as a project

<chillerdragon> What trauma did you go through to even think that? In which situation were you forced to use docker?

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theres no tune gravity

mh then i assume it's not possible on trashmap servers. i don't know how others did it. you can always host a local server and do it there

I mean

8:56AM

That was my logic

8:56AM

I'm just new at this

Jupstar ✪

mh then i assume it's not possible on trashmap servers. i don't know how others did it. you can always host a local server and do it there

i found

9:00AM

its tune gravity, not tune_gravity

9:00AM

i'm dumb

oh glad you got it working

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38109581

contact9879

EU Digital Identity framework (eIDAS) another kind of chat control?

9:15AM

some bad stuff going on

9:15AM

europe is weird they do nice and bad stuff

9:15AM

stallman was right all along

9:16AM

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html

Ryozuki

europe is weird they do nice and bad stuff

there is no good and bad. there is only 100000 FPS and 10 FPS

9:24AM

vulkan thursday

Ryozuki

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38109581

Governments are getting bored of this fog of war. It's only a matter of time

Jupstar ✪

there is no good and bad. there is only 100000 FPS and 10 FPS

Vulkan vs OpenGL or what? Xd

Teero

Vulkan vs OpenGL or what? Xd

OpenGL is cool too xd. Vk vs dx

furo321

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7406 Show AFK status in info tab

Friends/Clanmates in the info tab are now shown in their "afk" colours as well. While non-friends that are AFK are just shown with EMOTE_BLINK. Closes #7312 !image

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[x] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to...

Jupstar ✪

OpenGL is cool too xd. Vk vs dx

haha when do we get dx11 in tw?

I dunno

1:24PM

When you were done with it probably

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

149e5b6 Show AFK status in info tab - furo321 dbfe888 Merge pull request #7406 from furo321/afk-color-info-tab - def-

1:35PM

def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7406 Show AFK status in info tab

1:35PM

def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7312 Show afk status of players also in the servers info view

I'm gonna make a gh account to add suggestions and stuff

Teero

haha when do we get dx11 in tw?

wgpu supports

1️⃣1️⃣

x

Blazulite

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #7407 Editor Idea: Better Parameters Values

At the moment, you can only put values like 100, 83, 91... It would be really cool if you were able to put values like 94.1, 191.18 (Only for quads and tiles tho, not for entities for obvious reasons)

blazulite are you comfortable with linux? I recommend just getting a linux vps and host the game server there by just running it :)

3:57PM

@Blazulite

Yeah Linux is awesome.

4:01PM

But when you wanna dilate something you have to run it in terminal XD

4:02PM

also with all other tools that come with DDNet itself (edited)

not true

4:06PM

just depends on the file manager

4:06PM

most of them support drag and drop like windows explorer

Huh? Then it's nautilus

how do i show the lag graph

Ctrl+Shift+D, Ctrl+Shift+G

ty

6:42PM

how do i diagnose net microlags

6:42PM

it's super irritating

6:43PM

it's like the game just skips a beat

6:43PM

so it's mostly playable but i get a small lag and i'm not where i thought i was

6:43PM

this is new as of today

packet losses ?

Ewan

how do i diagnose net microlags

I think we just don't have the tooling for this. External profilers don't have enough context and they slow down execution immensely maybe making the lags disappear

Gwendal

packet losses ?

what would cause this

Wifi interference or faulty networking equipment are the only 2 you control

6:46PM

Barring some bizarre software issue. Too unlikely to even mention imo

hmm

6:47PM

i am not on wifi

Ryozuki

@Learath2 r u out of uni yet

I'm free from my shackles finally. Barring some bureaucracy and acquiring my diploma I won't ever have to step foot in that place again

2

6:52PM

Assuming I passed that exam

It felt fine tho

nice

6:52PM

what degree

A mere bachelors in computer engineering for 7 years of my time

Learath2

I'm free from my shackles finally. Barring some bureaucracy and acquiring my diploma I won't ever have to step foot in that place again

epic

i suspected ce

6:53PM

bachelors tho damn

6:53PM

what happened

Ewan

what happened

Covid + Lost interest + mild depression

damn

yeah covid messed me up too

I basically spent 2 years as a vegetable. 0 credits earned. So it's more like 5 years in reality

6:56PM

I lost interest when the degree became too much engineering too little computer. Idk just not my thing. I should have been more careful in picking

that is good to know

6:57PM

i probably would have wanted to do ce

6:57PM

but am not rly interested in other fields of engineering

6:58PM

and the whole fundamental part of it

6:58PM

just the computers

If stuff like multivariable calculus, control theory and electromagnetism don't sound interesting to you, you might prefer a cs degree or look at the courses in the ceng ones you find

6:58PM

Also lots and lots of electronics too

it doesn't sound not interesting

6:59PM

just something i haven't the slightest idea about

6:59PM

and i am bad at learning

6:59PM

if i don't already know a little bit it's way harder for me to care

Well interesting is the wrong word. They are extremely interesting to me, but I'd rather learn them on my own time, when needed

yeah

7:00PM

that's all the stuff i'd like to know one day

7:00PM

back burner

7:01PM

and then i would never get around to it on my own time

One drawback of a CS degree I heard is that they are much heavier on math and theory. Partially why I went with CE instead

hmm

7:03PM

idk if i would hate that

Learath2

I basically spent 2 years as a vegetable. 0 credits earned. So it's more like 5 years in reality

I am a ghost so I hope that doesn't count

7:06PM

ghetable

1

math and theory is fun

7:38PM

in theory

louis

in theory

XD

7:47PM

I do like math

louis

math and theory is fun

I used to love it before it was forced down my throat

I feel similarly, but I don't think it's about the content of the lessons but the way they are supposed to be done.

Exactly. Most of the stuff I hated this year, I probably would learn on my own, just in a much different way

Being forced to learn stuff in a way just to pass an exam is very unproductive.

7:55PM

I've passed "Linear Circuit Analysis" but don't remember even the basics (for example).

7:55PM

While I haven't passed others that even requiring my presence in the lab etc.

zogtib

Being forced to learn stuff in a way just to pass an exam is very unproductive.

I'm just the opposite. I need to be forced because I have no discipline. I wanna learn many languages, but I'm waiting to be able to select them as a subject next year because I simply can't stand learning them from myself

zogtib

I've passed "Linear Circuit Analysis" but don't remember even the basics (for example).

The best way to learn something is practising

7:56PM

If you learn only theory, although it's cool, you'll probably forget about it.

Levitando

I'm just the opposite. I need to be forced because I have no discipline. I wanna learn many languages, but I'm waiting to be able to select them as a subject next year because I simply can't stand learning them from myself

Pro-tip: Go above and beyond. Uni level of language teaching is rarely adequate

Levitando

The best way to learn something is practising

This was my hack for linar circuit analysis. I just kept building out the circuits on breadboards so I could observe too

The problem is that you are not asked to "practice" on a topic rather being able to answer some questions.

Technically wasnt required for the course but I would never be able to focus without

zogtib

The problem is that you are not asked to "practice" on a topic rather being able to answer some questions.

Exactly. And as exams loom closer and closer, no matter how strict you are with yourself, you will become exam minded, studying possible questions, memorizing answers to common theory

Learath2

Pro-tip: Go above and beyond. Uni level of language teaching is rarely adequate

I'm still at Secondary school and I don't talk really good english, but I can have a conversation! I am from Spain

zogtib

The problem is that you are not asked to "practice" on a topic rather being able to answer some questions.

true, but that's because uni teachers have very few time and freedom in their courses

Learath2

This was my hack for linar circuit analysis. I just kept building out the circuits on breadboards so I could observe too

You see? My father also learned that way

7:59PM

It's almost the perfect way

7:59PM

Well, nothing's perfect

Learath2

Exactly. And as exams loom closer and closer, no matter how strict you are with yourself, you will become exam minded, studying possible questions, memorizing answers to common theory

I was learning control theory properly, all the way until the end, then I panic'd, then I spammed exercises of exam style until I got used to it

setting up a lab work is quite time consuming and then the class is often split in several groups that all need to be taught by a teacher

8:00PM

you also need an available room for each lab class

Chairn

setting up a lab work is quite time consuming and then the class is often split in several groups that all need to be taught by a teacher

Honestly. If time is an issue, they just need an extra prof. All my lab classes had 2 profs so one could handle practicals and another the theory. Though budget might become an issue depending on the uni

"just need an extra prof"

8:01PM

sure, the state has plenty of money to throw at education

8:02PM

at least in France, that's a huge problem

I mean most western european states technically have infinite money glitch. They just don't allocate enough to education sadly

8:03PM

In less developed countries money does become a serious issue though, every extra dime spent on education is less spent on crucial infrastructure and health

they used free money glitch for covid, now there's huge inflation

Chairn

they used free money glitch for covid, now there's huge inflation

That's true. Need to be careful for a bit

and free money always comes at a cost, in general, it ends up in private sectors

Though if you think european inflation is huge I invite you to a year in Turkey. 80% official inflation

too much free money ?

Chairn

too much free money ?

Nah, awful monetary policy of decreasing interest rates at all cost

8:07PM

I've gotten so used to inflation that I didn't even notice how much extra I started spending in EU until I calculated

Jupeyy

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7408 Switch to a fragment shader solution for border tile rendering

This pr will allow zooming out without lags. Missing:

[ ] OpenGL 2.0 - 3.0 support. Which will now be required since the old method is dropped
[ ] Brainstorm for speedup tiles which rotate(based on their rotation value) which is incompatible to the new method
[ ] Testing with some edge cases
[ ] Cleanup, e.g. left overs from the old method
[ ] kill tiles are not yet implemented (but the method will work)

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided scree...

:) /_\

9:47PM

just gotta clean the code now ;)

did u know that u can create a triangle with shaders only xdd

9:51PM

#version 450
#extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable

layout (location = 0) noperspective out vec2 texCoord;
layout (location = 1) noperspective out vec4 vertColor;
layout (location = 2) noperspective out vec2 pos;

void main()
{
    vec2 outPos = vec2((gl_VertexIndex << 1) & 2, gl_VertexIndex & 2);

    pos = vec2(outPos * 2.0f + -1.0f);
    gl_Position = vec4(pos, 0.0, 1.0);
    texCoord = outPos;
    vertColor = vec4(1, 1, 1, 1);
}

9:52PM

who needs vertices anyway

Mr.Gh0s7

:) /_\

triangler?? from scratch?? woah gj

1

Jupstar ✪

did u know that u can create a triangle with shaders only xdd

thats bascially the first thing you see about shaders in wgpu introduction

Jupstar ✪

#version 450
#extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable

layout (location = 0) noperspective out vec2 texCoord;
layout (location = 1) noperspective out vec4 vertColor;
layout (location = 2) noperspective out vec2 pos;

void main()
{
    vec2 outPos = vec2((gl_VertexIndex << 1) & 2, gl_VertexIndex & 2);

    pos = vec2(outPos * 2.0f + -1.0f);
    gl_Position = vec4(pos, 0.0, 1.0);
    texCoord = outPos;
    vertColor = vec4(1, 1, 1, 1);
}

I figured that was possible from the cool stuff you can do with shaders but I'm really not at that level

a lot of cool stuff on the shaders actually wastes a lot of gpu time

Jupstar ✪

#version 450
#extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable

layout (location = 0) noperspective out vec2 texCoord;
layout (location = 1) noperspective out vec4 vertColor;
layout (location = 2) noperspective out vec2 pos;

void main()
{
    vec2 outPos = vec2((gl_VertexIndex << 1) & 2, gl_VertexIndex & 2);

    pos = vec2(outPos * 2.0f + -1.0f);
    gl_Position = vec4(pos, 0.0, 1.0);
    texCoord = outPos;
    vertColor = vec4(1, 1, 1, 1);
}

Shaders so powerful nowadays

in older opengl versions u can actually even create quads xd

Jupstar ✪

#version 450
#extension GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects : enable

layout (location = 0) noperspective out vec2 texCoord;
layout (location = 1) noperspective out vec4 vertColor;
layout (location = 2) noperspective out vec2 pos;

void main()
{
    vec2 outPos = vec2((gl_VertexIndex << 1) & 2, gl_VertexIndex & 2);

    pos = vec2(outPos * 2.0f + -1.0f);
    gl_Position = vec4(pos, 0.0, 1.0);
    texCoord = outPos;
    vertColor = vec4(1, 1, 1, 1);
}

Btw isn't (x<<1)&2 == x&1? I'm very drunk so maybe not

10:10PM

Yeah, no nvm

10:11PM

They are only equivalent cast to bool

hey fellas