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[ddnet/ddnet-web] Issue opened: #272 No license in the repository

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name is familiar

gm

8:43AM

I need two more pieces, any ideas to optimise the font?

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9:07AM

two missing pieces for the last parameter closing bracked on int main

9:08AM

@Jupstar ✪ @Ryozuki this is important

your semi is upside down

(edited)

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maybe some ligatures? the N and C of include, the S and the T of stdio or the M and the A of main?

9:19AM

or, you could include cstdio which is shorter

Teero

I need two more pieces, any ideas to optimise the font?

This is new IDE? gigachad

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Mʎɹ シ

This is new IDE? gigachad

I will implement syntax highlighting and auto completion soon

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Teero

I will implement syntax highlighting and auto completion soon

Killer of CLion

k2d222

or, you could include cstdio which is shorter

good fix but you cant use cstdio in c99 right?

Teero

@Jupstar ✪ @Ryozuki this is important

Tf is that

9:35AM

Godot

9:35AM

With gi?

Jupstar ✪

With gi?

looks pretty real right?

Teero

looks pretty real right?

Looks photo realistic at least. Hard to say if light would look like that in a static scene ^^

9:56AM

I couldn't tell if it's not a real photo from my phone

Teero

looks pretty real right?

So what r u doing? Creating a coding game?

Jupstar ✪

So what r u doing? Creating a coding game?

Teero

Don't tell me u had nothing better to do than doing this in rl xd

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Jupstar ✪

Don't tell me u had nothing better to do than doing this in rl xd

xD

the new vim

I started doing opengl again

11:41AM

The point that I rq everytime was the build system.

just use cmake and ure fine ig? (edited)

11:42AM

I do it manually for now.

First I gotta understand how it works, else I don't remember anything ;)

Teero

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more like

Mr.Gh0s7

First I gotta understand how it works, else I don't remember anything ;)

Do it on paper I dare u

U could also not do it cross platform

11:43AM

That makes it easier

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Yeah for now it's only for linux (only at my machine but could work on others ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

I also dislike working with build systems

zogtib has made an implementation of the redo build system

11:44AM

But it triggers me every time because I can't grasp it xD (shell nobo)

Mr.Gh0s7

zogtib has made an implementation of the redo build system

https://github.com/gotroyb127/baredo

GitHub - gotroyb127/baredo: a redo build system implementation

a redo build system implementation. Contribute to gotroyb127/baredo development by creating an account on GitHub.

Mr.Gh0s7

But it triggers me every time because I can't grasp it xD (shell nobo)

Plus I hadn't work much with C and C++ besides tw so and I wanted to write it in C so the translation from C++ to C from the tutorial (https://learnopengl.com) also was difficult for me xD

11:49AM

But I kinda worked with OpenCascade CAD Kernel in C++ at first (I didn't know there was build123d which is in python) so I got a little bit more familiar

Mr.Gh0s7

But it triggers me every time because I can't grasp it xD (shell nobo)

POSIX shell makes redo seem ugly (although redo is not restricted in using it, just the scripts)

ye look at this https://github.com/gotroyb127/deeworlds/blob/master/default.shdStr.do

deeworlds/default.shdStr.do at master · gotroyb127/deeworlds

teeworlds-like 3D game. Contribute to gotroyb127/deeworlds development by creating an account on GitHub.

Mr.Gh0s7

ye look at this https://github.com/gotroyb127/deeworlds/blob/master/default.shdStr.do

that's pretty simple, I'd say this is not even a just bad example but it even supports the opposite

zogtib

that's pretty simple, I'd say this is not even a just bad example but it even supports the opposite

no u

Just try to use no build system at all

11:58AM

Lmao

11:58AM

You won't need it for a simple project

f3

I wonder what you mean by "no build system" ^^ probably "a simple build system" like a project file in your IDE or a bash script?

prob they mean something without support for incremental builds

ah

just c++ -o out.exe srf1.cpp srcf2.cpp ...

Quick question. Do you have 2 mice in your disposal?

12:13PM

I am having an argument with @zogtib. I say that a game that would use 2 mice and no keyboard (maybe sometimes uses keyboard but not the main focus) would be really fun and innovative. zogtib says that using 2 mice wouldn't really change much and 2 mice are hard to find anyway. What do you think?

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12:14PM

React with hat to vote for 2 mice and Z to vote for zogtib

I have 0 mice, i just have a touchpad pepeW

MilkeeyCat

I have 0 mice, i just have a touchpad pepeW

get another laptop so you have 2

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Mr.Gh0s7

I am having an argument with @zogtib. I say that a game that would use 2 mice and no keyboard (maybe sometimes uses keyboard but not the main focus) would be really fun and innovative. zogtib says that using 2 mice wouldn't really change much and 2 mice are hard to find anyway. What do you think?

(I'm mostly saying that using 2 mice wouldn't help as much currently while also having great difficulties (no current support etc))

We would make the support. You have to be the change you want to see in the world (ft. Ryozuki)

@Mr.Gh0s7 which ogl do you target?

3.3 is the tutorial.

mh ok

which do you recommend?

well opengl 4.5 ofc xD

xD

besides new features, they often also fix stuff in a sense that they don't do it so overcomplicated

12:34PM

e.g. in newer opengl versions u can just bind a texture to a shader slot, instead of binding it to a slot and bind that slot to the shader

12:34PM

i dunno afaik they added a lot of these named bindings, instead of doing it as stateful as in older versions

related but unrelated has there been Any game that utilizes svg rendering

I'll look to it when I am done with the tutorial (maybe earlier too ;))

Voxel

related but unrelated has there been Any game that utilizes svg rendering

well the problem with SVG is really, u either have very optimized clean SVGs or u waste perf

12:35PM

it's simply not a data format that targets max perf

12:35PM

and that's usually something desired by games

fair enough

but i'd look out for 2d games

12:36PM

they might have it

12:37PM

for 3d i never seen it.. the maximum i've seen is clear text rendering(since fonts are also kind of SVGs/vector graphics)

12:37PM

but yeah, fonts are much less powerful ofc^^

was thinking 2d since i recall us babbling about svg rendering in ddnet

i mean i'd defs like to test it out.. but lot of work just to already know that it's 100% slower xD

12:38PM

and only worth for zooming in

12:38PM

and what also is annoying is, integrating it into your renderer

I mean a polygon mesh is kinda like an SVG

12:40PM

I think in 3d, voxels are rather rare

heinrich5991

I mean a polygon mesh is kinda like an SVG

yeah true, but also simpler

12:41PM

SVGs support blur etc

heinrich5991

I think in 3d, voxels are rather rare

im right here

xd

but voxels are 3d pixels only right?

12:43PM

not vector graphics

12:43PM

i know a few games

i mean 2d cubes are easy

xd

*3d

minecraft are textured voxels xdd

yea

Bus 003 Device 006: ID 0483:374b STMicroelectronics ST-LINK/V2.1
Bus 003 Device 005: ID 0483:374e STMicroelectronics STLINK-V3

12:56PM

epic

cool

good morning

ty

1:02PM

❯ openocd -f interface/stlink.cfg -f target/stm32f3x.cfg
Open On-Chip Debugger 0.12.0
Licensed under GNU GPL v2
For bug reports, read
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1:02PM

im a hacker

ST sux

1:12PM

How many times I had to reset my stm32 card

heinrich5991

I mean a polygon mesh is kinda like an SVG

What sets apart svgs for me is that they have arbitrary quality. meshes don't really support curvature, so you need more and more complex meshes the closer the camera

@Ryozuki in case i forget to ask tomorrow: do you know any allocator (that i can pass to Vec, Arc etc. that supports some kind of "initial memory size" and then "alloc size if full".. so basically it should be dynamic but i want to allocate lot in advance, since i can estimate the roundabout size. Additionally would be nice if it's using a spinlock instead of normal mutex or whatever

1:22PM

only read tomorrow ofc xD

ReiTW

How many times I had to reset my stm32 card

ill get a microbit soon

1:30PM

thhe new rust embedded tutorial uses microbit

Jupstar ✪

@Ryozuki in case i forget to ask tomorrow: do you know any allocator (that i can pass to Vec, Arc etc. that supports some kind of "initial memory size" and then "alloc size if full".. so basically it should be dynamic but i want to allocate lot in advance, since i can estimate the roundabout size. Additionally would be nice if it's using a spinlock instead of normal mutex or whatever

hmm explain further

1:30PM

initial memory size? u can ask vec to preallocate using with_capacity

1:31PM

idk what u mean by alloc size if full

1:31PM

but maybe u want a bump allocator?

1:31PM

https://docs.rs/bumpalo/latest/bumpalo/

bumpalo - Rust

bumpalo

1:32PM

u also got https://docs.rs/slab/0.4.9/slab/

slab - Rust

Pre-allocated storage for a uniform data type.

1:32PM

Slab provides pre-allocated storage for a single data type. If many values of a single type are being allocated, it can be more efficient to pre-allocate the necessary storage. Since the size of the type is uniform, memory fragmentation can be avoided. Storing, clearing, and lookup operations become very cheap. While Slab may look like other Rust collections, it is not intended to be used as a general purpose collection. The primary difference between Slab and Vec is that Slab returns the key when storing the value. It is important to note that keys may be reused. In other words, once a value associated with a given key is removed from a slab, that key may be returned from future calls to insert.

why use a spinlock instead of a mutex?

1:33PM

afaik, normal mutexes only enter the kernel on contention

ye a spinlock should be worse right?

Ryozuki

ill get a microbit soon

I was using micropython + some async lib for BLE

but maybe he has no_std needs @heinrich5991

The documentation was horrible af

ReiTW

I was using micropython + some async lib for BLE

i wont touch python

u should read it tomorrow keks

xd

heinrich5991

why use a spinlock instead of a mutex?

why not, i never want to enter any sleep

i think slab is quite good when making trees

if the crates doesn't use a spinlock, it's probably a slow implementation

Ryozuki

i think slab is quite good when making trees

well i need it as allocator i can pass to vec etc.

1:36PM

to rust std data types

Jupstar ✪

why not, i never want to enter any sleep

hm. in that case I'd still prefer a normal mutex. if contention is a bug, then I'd prefer the process to sleep over using a lot of CPU when that assumption is broken

heinrich5991

hm. in that case I'd still prefer a normal mutex. if contention is a bug, then I'd prefer the process to sleep over using a lot of CPU when that assumption is broken

well additionally i don't trust the implementations. e.g. windows xd

1:44PM

a lockfree impl is also welcome, but probably doesn't work with a heap like data structure

https://stackoverflow.com/a/70355738/870079 according to a random stackoverflow post, srwlock (which rust's mutexes use on windows) behave like futexes on linux

synchronization primitives: Equal latencies between atomics and mut...

I'm trying to improve my understanding of synchronization primitives in C++. I've measured latencies of various concurrent operations, such as: For a raw std::mutex, the time between .unlock() and...

1:45PM

not sure if I trust a random stackoverflow post though

i just don't like that in theory the hybrid system can decide to go to the thread scheduler...

https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/std/cell/struct.UnsafeCell.html

UnsafeCell in std::cell - Rust

The core primitive for interior mutability in Rust.

https://blog.rust-lang.org/2023/10/26/broken-badges-and-23k-keywords.html

A tale of broken badges and 23,000 features | Rust Blog

Empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software.

3:46PM

@heinrich5991

3:46PM

a crate with 23000 features

3:46PM

cargo features

Ryozuki

https://blog.rust-lang.org/2023/10/26/broken-badges-and-23k-keywords.html

geschichten aus dem paulaner garten

i like paulaner beer

xd

4:20PM

actually this is exactly this

4:20PM

it's a beer garden xd

xd

when ppl tell their fairy tails about stuff that doesnt exist

4:21PM

xd

4:22PM

https://docs.rs/crate/icondata/0.1.0/features

4:22PM

this is the crate btw

4:23PM

he made one feature per font icon

4:23PM

wtf

4:23PM

is wrong with some ppl

4:24PM

" Every icon is packaged as its own cargo feature to reduce build times." sure.. parsing 23000 features is soo much faster

4:24PM

lmao

howdy

morning

4:31PM

foggy today

@Ryozuki im in ddnet gentoo club, right? its been more than 1 month gigachad

yes

how are u enjoying it

@MilkeeyCat put gentoo logo as pfp

Ryozuki

@MilkeeyCat put gentoo logo as pfp

and ill be as jupstar justatest

4:34PM

but with gentoo

4:35PM

today is definitely go + htmx thursday (edited)

MilkeeyCat

and ill be as jupstar justatest

use this

4:39PM

lol

Jupstar ✪

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not a huge voxel's fan (edited)

4:51PM

can put js logo tho (edited)

4:51PM

MilkeeyCat sadly doesn't fit. way too long name xd

most ppl read my name as MickeyCat feelsbadman

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Opengl-logo.svg

4:54PM

and when u spanish person: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/OpenGL_ES_logo_%28Nov14%29.svg

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4:54PM

xd

lmfao

xd

4:59PM

luckily im catalan

ya but in barcelona

Jupstar ✪

use this

i want one tooo

Jupstar ✪

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i forgot you did that justatest

wait he did that lmfao

5:13PM

i thought you would have

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/17goyxf/sqldevlearningmongodb/

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Ewan

i thought you would have

thats not in character

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7373 Fix incorrect menu behavior when quitting/restarting

Only consider STATE_ONLINE and STATE_DEMOPLAYBACK as ingame. Closes #7178.

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with...

hmm, admin impostor? there's a deen on every pol server, and a robyt as well

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Chairn

hmm, admin impostor? there's a deen on every pol server, and a robyt as well

sus

Chairn

hmm, admin impostor? there's a deen on every pol server, and a robyt as well

this is the same as what was happening to USA a few months ago, their names were also colors in case the admin names were temporarily banned

8:08PM

blue green yellow etc

8:08PM

same source iirc

Chairn

hmm, admin impostor? there's a deen on every pol server, and a robyt as well

oh look at that (i removed an image containing a link to a cheat client discord server as per chairn's request) (edited)

Ewan

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im getting flashbacks

8:31PM

deen's here too

yeah

8:32PM

annoying

8:32PM

@Robyt3 swing your master ban hammer

someone's doign it already

8:32PM

no mod in lobby

8:33PM

or maybe this is how bans work if done on another server

8:33PM

never seen it

Ewan

oh look at that (i removed an image containing a link to a cheat client discord server as per chairn's request) (edited)

you might want to censor that link though

i... guess so

hopefully that bot can be detected and banned on usage ...

unfortunately not

9:03PM

unless someone decides to add text blacklist features & auto-ban accordingly

nah i mean the bot client he is talkin about

oh this is actually a different client than i thought

Ewan

unless someone decides to add text blacklist features & auto-ban accordingly

yeah i was thinking about this just right now and came here to propose it, any message containing their discord invite link > ban gg

teini94

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #7374 AntiSkip Proteamranks

many always wanted a /proteam 5 where u cant cheat 2p maps with help of support (like third player or dummy) where are any time min. and max only 2 players are allowed (besides 3p maps) to make sure of it my ideas would be

the team must kill itself before even making 1 move.
make a new table records_proteamrace [but it also needs cp1-25 (I think) GameId etc.. like in record_race]
3p-10-64p maps need a command the map itself like
sv_playerperproteam 3 (sv_proteam 3)

Gwendal

yeah i was thinking about this just right now and came here to propose it, any message containing their discord invite link > ban gg

it is so very easy to make a new invite link, it would not be worth it

ban for sending links

9:08PM

gg ez

@Ewan I think they use a bot to spam every servers, it would probably make them struggle if they had to automatically create a new invite idk..

if the person who made these bots did it the way a sane person would then it would be very easy to change the link

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the thing is we would need mods to be able to say "hey this link is that spambot discord" so we can refresh the autoban/blacklist messages feature when they change inv ig

Ewan

or maybe this is how bans work if done on another server

Fast login and ban

9:11PM

well i would see it in the chat

3 seconds is enough

9:12PM

Ewan

someone's doign it already

I knew deen was a spambot

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9:40PM

c++23 is Rust--

9:40PM

change my mind

+

Ryozuki

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are vectors just a fixed list of numbers

fixed would be array

9:42PM

vectors are growable list

9:42PM

also its numbers in this case, its generic over the data type

bruh i still libe in a world where c++20 is unsupported by all compilers xd

9:43PM

there's c++23

Ryozuki

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only thing more rusty about this is the bracket syntax for std print/format

10:21PM

initializer lists for std containers have existed for a long time

Ryozuki

c++23 is Rust--

You mean Rust++?

Ewan

only thing more rusty about this is the bracket syntax for std print/format

import

oh yeah

10:27PM

missed that

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

7312721 Remove redundant server browser refresh on client start - Robyt3 68e4819 Fix incorrect menu behavior when quitting/restarting - Robyt3 c325f83 Merge pull request #7373 from Robyt3/Client-Quitting-State-Fixes - def-

11:02PM

def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7373 Fix incorrect menu behavior when quitting/restarting

11:02PM

def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7178 Menus background goes gray/missing quitting while red fullscreen warning is shown