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Voxel

does minecraft even HAVE linux support

???

00:45

was that not what milkeey was hinting at

hand banana nooo

01:46

minecraft is one of the og linux games

01:48

not like 90s og but as far as modern games are concerned

Minecraft java does have linux support

05:56

Bedrock doesn't

Ewan

‘It just doesn’t work’

Literally, i installed it and it doesn't open at all

05:59

Microsoft products are just shit

05:59

That's it

05:59

Nothing made by them works

06:00

Finally i installed mc but not from the launcher

06:00

From tge xbox app

Installed from where

It works now

06:57

I only wanted to install bedrock so i can join the mob vote server

How old are you

what

07:01

It is actually a pretty cool map

07:02

I beat the hardest parkour course lol

07:03

Which would be considered easy on any normal parkour server

07:04

The only issue is that bedrock sux

07:05

It's a bit laggy

07:05

And i thought it was supposed to be well optimized

Voxel

does minecraft even HAVE linux support

its java it runs on 3 billion devices

08:50

minecraft always worked on linux

also important: it works better on linux than on windows

Yup

https://curl.se/docs/CVE-2023-38545.html "the worst security problem discovered in curl for a long time"

12:51

CMV: math is wrong

pilonpl

Click to see attachment 🖼️

even if you use this weird counting logic to compare infinities, they would still be equal because if you count from zero, even numbers are 1/2 as frequent as natural numbers, but all even numbers (except 0) have a negative counterpart so 1/2 * 2 = 1? (edited)

Math can't be wrong

13:01

If it is

13:01

You can define it such that it actually isn't

13:02

√-1

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=

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i

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Boom

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A whole new math invented

13:02

And we have mandelbrot set

13:03

"that's not a bug, that's a feature"

Real numbers aren't any more real than imaginary numbers lol

13:06

First we had natural numbers

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0 wasn't a thing

13:06

Then we added 0 because it was useful

13:07

Then i think we added either negative numbers or rational numbers

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Idk

13:07

Both of those concepts are useful

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But it turns out there are numbers that aren't rational like π or √2 which are quite useful too

13:08

So we added those

counting only in natural numbers is hard compared to rational

13:10

all these olympiad counting problems...

Math is so cool

13:11

How can so many people hate it

i love math, just not counting problems

math hard

is it possible to make it so steam runs a game with wine?

17:08

basically executes wine game.exe

pilonpl

is it possible to make it so steam runs a game with wine?

steam runs all windows games over wine

17:09

called proton

right so

17:10

it doesnt work

17:10

while wine game.exe works just fine

if proton doesnt work, it's very likely wine doesnt either

17:10

what is the game called? (edited)

17:10

lol

17:11

its actually a surprisingly fun game

mh ok, u could try a different proton version

17:12

it uses opengl 1, lel

which version lol

i dunno, an older version xd

17:13

https://www.protondb.com/app/1859290

How well does Crypto Miner Tycoon Simulator work on Linux and the S...

Game information for Proton, Linux, Steam Deck, and SteamOS

17:13

someone used Proton Next 7.0-6 on Steam

why isnt it possible to just use wine

i mean u can

i did

use lutris, it will automatically create a shortcut for you

17:14

but if it works without steam, why do u want it in steam xd

because i want steam playtime counter lol

pilonpl

because i want steam playtime counter lol

did you finish your minesweeper in C?

no

why not

because

17:31

i am lazy

fair

but i will finish it eventually

17:33

i have recently discovered that i assume the bottom left corner of an array is the index 0,0

17:33

when printing the array

17:33

but in gui

17:34

the top left corner is 0,0

17:34

which doesnt really matter

17:34

but its annoying

me trying to draw just a focken grid xD

17:35

everything as expected. nothing works

use raylib

17:36

lol

not fonny

17:37

i love spending 5h before seeing anything on screen

17:37

You want to get in pinned messages. Simply try to draw a tee and send it to showroom

Im too horrbie at drawing to actually do it owo

then just become an admin. then youll be able to pin whatever you want'

the simplest option of all

:YEP:

best grid ive ever seen kek

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MilkeeyCat

best grid ive ever seen kek

are u still doing graphics by hand>?

18:38

or rather from scratch

yup

18:39

now i konw many smart words

18:39

i dont know what they mean

18:39

but i know em

18:39

im gonna post my project too then

the more i write cpp and rust the more i dont want to come back to js pepeW

maybe you can do ts?

those types still sucks xD

18:44

and i use ts already

18:44

xd

here, i present to you, my fully networked tabletop simulator (currently lacking ANY features that'd make it pleasing for my eyes)

18:47

oh and don't mind the music... i forgot to turn it off

maybe this opengl journey will actually help me with understanding how to write demo player. coz rm im absolutely fucking cluess how it has to work feelsbadman

アリヂン

here, i present to you, my fully networked tabletop simulator (currently lacking ANY features that'd make it pleasing for my eyes)

cool

MilkeeyCat

maybe this opengl journey will actually help me with understanding how to write demo player. coz rm im absolutely fucking cluess how it has to work feelsbadman

i learned a lot of gpu stuff from this guide, but it may not suit you as it is in rust https://sotrh.github.io/learn-wgpu/

all ive done so far is drawn a rectangle and a girl with boobies in there

18:50

and 7 vertical lines

18:51

there should be horizontal as well but they are shy so they are now drawn

last time i tried to design my own engine in C++ with opengl it went segfault

i have only 3 so far

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18:52

had* xd

アリヂン

here, i present to you, my fully networked tabletop simulator (currently lacking ANY features that'd make it pleasing for my eyes)

that looks very cool

アリヂン

here, i present to you, my fully networked tabletop simulator (currently lacking ANY features that'd make it pleasing for my eyes)

not a single runtime error during development so far

(apart from network buffer getting overflowed that doesnt count)

pf

18:53

whats the fun then xd (edited)

ah yes, when debugging takes more time than actually developing justatest

playing a game catch the ~~pokemon~~ segfault is the funniest game

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i might soon need someone to test my project together

18:54

my networking might be not as robust as i expect it to be

アリヂン

ah yes, when debugging takes more time than actually developing justatest

all my debugging is just putting std::cout << "FLJSDKLSJG" << std::endl; to all the lines and see where it breaks

MilkeeyCat

all my debugging is just putting std::cout << "FLJSDKLSJG" << std::endl; to all the lines and see where it breaks

yooo thats my fav method on competitive prog

18:56

because, apparently, rust it not very suitable for quickly writing code justatest

MilkeeyCat

and 7 vertical lines

have you rendered an rgb triangle yet?

アリヂン

have you rendered an rgb triangle yet?

it was just red

18:59

and i have watched a full playlist about opengl justatest

i don't even wanna know how long were those monkalaugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3gAzLwfIP0&list=PLlrATfBNZ98foTJPJ_Ev03o2oq3-GGOS2

The Cherno

Welcome to OpenGL

texted guides are so much better than videos actually

reading hard

idk, every person takes information at different pace, and some videos are straight up BORING because of that and some are just going straight through the brain without me learning anything

19:03

and and, some people have those crappy 1$ microphones which are so HORRIBLE to listen to

as an owner of that mic i can agree justatest

MilkeeyCat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3gAzLwfIP0&list=PLlrATfBNZ98foTJPJ_Ev03o2oq3-GGOS2

i actually agree that its good for learning, its very simple, like extremely simple if you compare it to vulkan monkaStop

nononono

19:04

no vulkan here

19:04

its grug corner

19:04

no complex stuff

all these....

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PIPELINES

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and....

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BUFFERS

in web you jsut get a canvaas element, get context and do ctx.fillRect(x, y, w, h);

19:06

:clueless:

jesus christ

19:06

do ytou even realize how slow that is??

js slow?

19:06

nononono

man you dont even wanna know

at least it works owo

until i turn js off in my browser trollet

then just look at empy canvas elment

web devs surely do not understand that a website whose js takes more space than actual html is no good

dont u dare to say anything about my 50mb react app

19:09

:madge:

you know these websites where you just go to get some information and you get like 200000 COOL JS SCRIPTED ANIMATIONS AND STUFF instead if what you need?

definitely not https://github.com/MilkeeyCat/DDnet-Team-Searcher

GitHub - MilkeeyCat/DDnet-Team-Searcher: Website where weirdos can ...

Website where weirdos can find another weirdos to play with each other - GitHub - MilkeeyCat/DDnet-Team-Searcher: Website where weirdos can find another weirdos to play with each other

19:10

yoo the readme image is so cool

19:11

thats coz i didnt do it justatest

19:12

id draw twerking twinbop

but still, its on the project page so i give it a star

19:12

ah yes... if only i had a github account...

u dotn have one?

i have one but i log in so rarely

i have it to post my highly intellectual trash code and to star ddnet (edited)

i'd like to share my stuff on github but im too shy of my weird commit descriptions and mail.....

is someone gonna kill you because of ur commit description? (edited)

19:19

write as good commit names as me gigachad

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yess, my anxiety

i dont rememer what any of those mean

MilkeeyCat

write as good commit names as me gigachad

huge load was the best justatest

(edited)

i love that my project's initial commit is, in size, larger than all other commits combined

ye, same. huge load is 35k additions (edited)

did you hardcode a base64-coded image or something wtf

19:22

or, someone forgot to commit for 15 different tasks

11k + 9k is package-lock.json's xD (edited)

skill issue

19:23

all lock files shall be in .gitignore

only 15k additions of code feelsbadman

only???

19:23

that's like my monthly progress

took only half a day

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2

now do this in opengl

MilkeeyCat

took only half a day

Other opengl experements? gigachad

Mʎɹ シ

Other opengl experements? gigachad

i need to make a game for uni pepeW

19:33

and learning how graphics work

MilkeeyCat

and learning how graphics work

WHAT, its in your UNIVERSITY??

アリヂン

WHAT, its in your UNIVERSITY??

yea

man, tech is so slow here in russia

they want me to make some stupid ass c++ game

19:34

but first i need to learn c++

our top unis can give you 10yr old c++ course at most

MilkeeyCat

i need to make a game for uni pepeW

Sooo, why opengl? Why not sdl2, sfml, other 2d graphics libs? (edited)

why not

i dont need any reason to write it in opengl

My opengl experience stoped at rendering shitty frog model (edited)

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i also knew about vulkan... but... i dont have 5 years to make it

Mʎɹ シ

My opengl experience stoped at rendering shitty frog model (edited)

i remember xDD

xd

アリヂン

our top unis can give you 10yr old c++ course at most

our teacher taught us nothing and said we have to make a game

19:38

Gamedev uni

also you can make like an app

like dating app

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or something

19:39

but that will be boring as hell

19:40

spotify died

MilkeeyCat

spotify died

vlc

Meh, making gui, making contacting with backend, other shit. Ye, making game in opengl will be funny, than dating app

アリヂン

vlc

Windows media player gigachad

Mʎɹ シ

Meh, making gui, making contacting with backend, other shit. Ye, making game in opengl will be funny, than dating app

i didnt want to make buttons, sliders and other shit

Mʎɹ シ

Windows media player gigachad

aint no way im installing that on my linux

Mʎɹ シ

Windows media player gigachad

on linux

MilkeeyCat

i didnt want to make buttons, sliders and other shit

Imgui xdd

imagine using library

19:42

:clueless:

I made my arduino led controller with imgui, sfml and winapi gigachad

19:44

Мле, надледает чет на английском писать xd

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19:45

Особено когда ты ваще в душе не знаешь че за слова тут произносятся

MilkeeyCat

imagine using library

imagine using a """"high level language""""

アリヂン

imagine using a """"high level language""""

imagine using rust

MilkeeyCat

imagine using rust

i first read that as "rust is interpreted in python"

19:47

19:48

ggota goo sleep

19:48

my brain is melting

its my normal state

19:48

ok goodnight milk-loving cat* (edited)

19:49

20:07

The minecraft community right now

Mʎɹ シ

Sooo, why opengl? Why not sdl2, sfml, other 2d graphics libs? (edited)

you are comparing apples to oranges

Ewan

you are comparing apples to oranges

Ye, ik