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f55086f Use m_aInputData for dummy in cl_show_direction - furo321 2dd7f1d Merge pull request #7274 from furo321/dummy-directions - heinrich5991

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heinrich5991

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7274 Use m_aInputData for dummy in cl_show_direction

ddnet-maps

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

ff3ea02 A Eclipse_oldschool, M Airnade Ultra, M Exanimus, M Lost In Forest, M Memento mori, M Slak - ddnet-maps

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #7275 RFC: Overhaul demo browser UI

The following screenshots show my proposed overhaul of the demo browser UI. The demo details are moved to a side panel on the right, which is the same size as the server browser side panel. The side panel can be collapsed/expanded with the button above the scrollbar. The UI elements in the bottom are moved and most of them use icons. The "Markers" column is removed to get back some vertical space and because I don't consider it very useful see for all demos and sort by. Screens...

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furo321

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7276 Remove unused commands from autoexec_server.cfg

Deleted sv_score_folder and sv_rank_cheats from autoexec_server.cg. As both of them don't exist.

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[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] T...

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7242 Added a transparent image to the assets directory called "none"

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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

a7748ba revert quad selection correctly fixes #7248 - Marmare314 7743981 Merge pull request #7273 from Marmare314/quad-selection-iv - Robyt3

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Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7273 revert quad selection correctly fixes #7248

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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

5512049 Remove unused commands from autoexec cfg - furo321 3ce669d Merge pull request #7276 from furo321/autoexec-unused - Robyt3

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Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7276 Remove unused commands from autoexec_server.cfg

furo321

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7277 Send the player's latency if a menu is open

Currently it's only sent if the scoreboard is open. This will cause the ping shown in the "Server info" tab not to be updated. So, if you have never opened the scoreboard before. It would just show 0 !image

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today out of nowhere my fps went again up to 600 fps

15:45

:feelsgoodman:

why isnt it possible ;((

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Because tee collision physics are not deterministic as far as I tested it. Maybe it’s floating magic or some networking delay. But it seems that when tees collide random things happen.

Replying to @Teero why isnt it possible ;((

I'd guess some networking randomness

it's the order in which the characters get updated

oh true, these are bounces afterall

chillerdragon

Because tee collision physics are not deterministic as far as I tested it. Maybe it’s floating magic or some networking delay. But it seems that when tees collide random things happen.

tee collision are deterministic

17:13

only the network is not deterministic in ddnet

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7278 Refactor menu image scan

Remove unnecessary check for duplicate menu images. Listing directories with the storage now prevents duplicates, so this additional check is not needed anymore. Ensure menu images are in RGBA format. Ensure menu image names are not truncated. Minor code format improvements.

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Oh yea that also crossed my mind. But would that mean that if a bounce is recreated with the same clientIDs it’s always gonna bounce the same?

Replying to @fokkonaut it's the order in which the characters get updated

18:29

Im honestly curious but too lazy to test. @Teero do you get the very same outcome if you redo the move with the same tees? Possibly without killing not sure what affects the physics order.

chillerdragon

Because tee collision physics are not deterministic as far as I tested it. Maybe it’s floating magic or some networking delay. But it seems that when tees collide random things happen.

Tw physics are 96% deterministic

18:54

Only random thing is the tele

not anymore

Or networking thingies

Ryozuki

not anymore

Did taters PR get merged?

idk

18:55

but ddnet uses PRNG

what's the seed?

18:55

server start time?

idk xd

18:55

i just heard this from hein

chillerdragon

Oh yea that also crossed my mind. But would that mean that if a bounce is recreated with the same clientIDs it’s always gonna bounce the same?

I am 100% sure it doesn't have anything to do with client ids. Else my whole TAS thing wouldn't work

chillerdragon

Im honestly curious but too lazy to test. @Teero do you get the very same outcome if you redo the move with the same tees? Possibly without killing not sure what affects the physics order.

Btw there shouldn't be an order at all right?

19:12

That would be stupid

19:13

Every new tick for an entity should be based on the previous tick and without having to rely on order

19:13

Hmm

19:13

Maybe I should fix that

Chairn

what's the seed?

Random bits from platform dependent entropy source

Learath2

Random bits from platform dependent entropy source

So it's pretty much random

The seed is then recorded in teehistorian files so that things can be reproduced

Teero

That would be stupid

tw physics is very much order dependent, it's the cause of weak and strong

19:15

Entity order that is, not client id order

yea

19:15

not cool

19:18

should be like 1. make a copy of the world 2. tick all entities in the copy independently based on the original world 3. copy the copy to the original

19:19

Maybe I'll implement that and check what diffrences will occur

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7279 Improve performance of menus checker background, improve server browser performance

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[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addres...

furo321

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7280 Don't reset /lasttp position on death

It's now moved to player.h so it's persistent after death and only reset when the map changes. Which makes it way nicer to use.

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to make interactions between those two tees completely symmetrical in all cases I think you need both order independent physics (which is really hard to achieve for bounce) and fixed point math

yea

21:51

and those things would surely affect the trout population

21:51

+ existing map physics

yes, doing all that without breaking any maps and tricks is an even harder problem

ddnet on a quantum computer

Oh cool I get to make an icon

22:38

ill think of one in a bit

nice

def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7277 Send the player's latency if a menu is open

22:41

def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7280 Don't reset /lasttp position on death

22:41

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[ddnet:master] 4 new commits

0661eaf Send the player's latency if a menu is open - furo321 6dd43fb Don't reset LastTelePos on death - furo321 879a889 Merge pull request #7277 from furo321/send-ping-menu - def- 624f4ae Merge pull request #7280 from furo321/move-lasttelepos - def-

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def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7279 Improve performance of menus checker background, improve server browser performance

22:42

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[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

b1d90aa Store number of filtered players when filtering - Robyt3 fa07f64 Improve performance of menus checker background, refactoring - Robyt3 887522e Merge pull request #7279 from Robyt3/Menus-Performance - def-

def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7278 Refactor menu image scan

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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

fe27752 Refactor menu image scan - Robyt3 fe77f63 Merge pull request #7278 from Robyt3/Menus-Images-Scan-Refactoring - def-

trml

yes, doing all that without breaking any maps and tricks is an even harder problem

ill just make it for fun and see what happens

23:34

if it doesnt break anything i might do a pr

you will need to test a shitload

23:38

i think mario maker has different physics schemes for when they made physics breaking updates, so the scheme of whatever version of the game the level was at when it was released is what's used for that level

23:39

so like p switch jumps are way easier on some 'schemes'