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pilonpl

And there are more ads too

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pilonpl

Just don't do stuff that you think sexualises you?

what if it happens by default, without doing anything?

You have to live with it then lol

06:57

It's not like it's a bad thing anyways

06:57

That's kind of how life works

06:58

And you can't really change what others find attractive

when i ask myself these kinds of questions, i do it like this: Would a women with 1 billion $ be a prostitute? Would a women with 1 billion $ be on onlyfans? Would a women with 1 billion $ be on advertisements?

08:16

and then the answer is probably: a very few exceptions yes. But most no

pilonpl

And you can't really change what others find attractive

the problem is catcalling and things like objectification, gender inequality etc

08:24

it’s not just about what is attractive

pilonpl

And you can't really change what others find attractive

twinbop:

In 2023 even just looking at women could be considered inappropriate or something lol

if u keep staring yes kinda lol

@Voxel

08:33

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pilonpl

In 2023 even just looking at women could be considered inappropriate or something lol

u dont need whomen when you can have homies (edited)

jana

if u keep staring yes kinda lol

Well, staring at somone might be weird sometimes but not really wrong i guess

with the majority of women experiencing sexual harassment at least once in their lifetime I think there’s mostly anxiety of it happening to themselves and I can only talk for myself but when someone is staring at me I don’t think i would be happy justatest

justatest

I kean there are some bad people in the world

08:43

Who could hurt you in some way

yea way too many

There is always some risk

@pilonpl let's face it you and me. we know the true nature of men. We just learned to control it

Jupstar ✪

@pilonpl let's face it you and me. we know the true nature of men. We just learned to control it

thanks

Jupstar ✪

@pilonpl let's face it you and me. we know the true nature of men. We just learned to control it

I guess

08:51

What i mean is that you can't really sexualise anyone because that kind of already done?

08:52

It's just a thing that exists

08:52

Its not anyone's fault

hard to say. but yes it exists. Sometimes the roots for these problems are not easily identifiable. Maybe it will take a few generations until we decide what we want and what not. I'd defenitely say there are women that sexualise themselves, e.g. for easy money (onlyfans, twitch streaming with almost nacked breast etc.) In this specific case, it would maybe be less attractive if no money could be generated by this. or if the woman does not require any money. I could certainly imagine that in future we look back to these days and wonder wtf we were doing, similar to how you can't imagine nowadays that women could not vote just around <100 years ago

08:57

i also generally have the impression that older generations are more prisioned in the thinking of that women are something not worth treating equally. Additionally it is a cultural thing.

For me it seems like men are more discriminated than women

08:59

In some countries

really?

In Poland it's mostly about retirement lol

pilonpl

For me it seems like men are more discriminated than women

i feel like, as a white male, tall, blond hair. i am basically treated as someone trustworthy always. I never have problems with police, i am never asked weird questions etc.

09:00

finding a job is ez af

I mean there are some relatively small issues i guess

09:01

For both genders

09:01

So like

09:01

It's not so bad

not so small issues on the female side

Idk I don't really experience much discrimination at all

ye coz ur not a woman

And i live in poland lol

09:04

It's a pretty alright country i guess

poland is also in a huge upward trend economically. so i guess it's pretty nice to live in poland rn as young male

Depends where u live

Our government tries its best to destroy everything lol

@jana

i know xd

09:06

but EU laws kick in xd

Oh so : s makes

@nothing

OMEGALUL

09:07

@pilonpl "Gender Pay Gap: Women in Poland, as in many other countries, often earn less than men for the same work or similar positions. This contributes to economic disparities. Underrepresentation in Leadership Roles: Women are often underrepresented in political leadership positions and executive roles in businesses. Reproductive Rights: Access to reproductive healthcare services and family planning can be a subject of debate and potential restrictions. Gender-Based Violence: Like elsewhere, gender-based violence, including domestic violence, is a concern in Poland. Traditional Gender Roles: Traditional gender roles and stereotypes may persist, affecting women's choices and opportunities in various fields. Access to Education: While access to education is generally available, disparities may exist, especially in certain regions or communities."

Just work like me 12h shift and get well paid for sitting on phone doing nothing

In poland the retirement age is different for men and women and this seems to be the biggest issue

Will u survive tho before u can retire

will there be AIs replacing us before we retire

09:11

the world in 50 years

09:11

damn

pepeW

Maybe u never know

using AI to make imaginary fees to us old sacks

Cellegen

using AI to make imaginary fees to us old sacks

U still working on designing that map?

09:13

Aoe's map

jana

@pilonpl "Gender Pay Gap: Women in Poland, as in many other countries, often earn less than men for the same work or similar positions. This contributes to economic disparities. Underrepresentation in Leadership Roles: Women are often underrepresented in political leadership positions and executive roles in businesses. Reproductive Rights: Access to reproductive healthcare services and family planning can be a subject of debate and potential restrictions. Gender-Based Violence: Like elsewhere, gender-based violence, including domestic violence, is a concern in Poland. Traditional Gender Roles: Traditional gender roles and stereotypes may persist, affecting women's choices and opportunities in various fields. Access to Education: While access to education is generally available, disparities may exist, especially in certain regions or communities."

It doesn't seem to me that the "pay gap" is caused by discrimination, maybe it's just that women are actually worth less? Idk and there probably isn't much you can do about it, after all the employer can consider who you are and it might even be subconscious. Equality isn't about everything being equal

…worth less?

Traditional gender roles are an issue for men too

jana

…worth less?

I mean, if they're paid less there might be some reason why that's the case

no there isn’t that’s the problem (edited)

09:15

same work as men but not paid the same

Hmm

09:17

Why wouldn't you lower the wages for men too?

09:17

It would be fair and cheaper

09:20

Maybe women are just willing to work for less?

09:20

But then why would you even hire men

09:21

This is complicated actually

it is very complex. it's not like u can always say i want more money

09:22

at least not if u don't have some very specific skill

09:23

that is unique (edited)

jana

@pilonpl "Gender Pay Gap: Women in Poland, as in many other countries, often earn less than men for the same work or similar positions. This contributes to economic disparities. Underrepresentation in Leadership Roles: Women are often underrepresented in political leadership positions and executive roles in businesses. Reproductive Rights: Access to reproductive healthcare services and family planning can be a subject of debate and potential restrictions. Gender-Based Violence: Like elsewhere, gender-based violence, including domestic violence, is a concern in Poland. Traditional Gender Roles: Traditional gender roles and stereotypes may persist, affecting women's choices and opportunities in various fields. Access to Education: While access to education is generally available, disparities may exist, especially in certain regions or communities."

Violence in general isn't legal so it's not really discrimination. No one really cares if violence is equal because there should be none in the first place

Jupstar ✪

it is very complex. it's not like u can always say i want more money

The employer can do anything they want as long as it's legal and the law is the same for men and women so i guess there shouldn't really be a difference

shouldn’t ignore the fact that domestic violence and sexual harassment is represented more on the female side tho

Ok but can we call it discrimination when it is illegal?

pilonpl

The employer can do anything they want as long as it's legal and the law is the same for men and women so i guess there shouldn't really be a difference

yep sadly.. i don't know if our current economical model works together with democracy forever.

The problem is generally with violence, not specifically violence against women

I don’t get what you’re trying to do. Argue against discrimination happening against women? It is still a huge problem nowadays

Maybe but these examples aren't that great

nothing

Aoe's map

It was passed down to Pipou, since I've done half of the design structure already

Ah I see

But seems like Pipou didn't do anything with it, so it's kinda abandoned?

Gotta ask aoe

I may decide to go back and design the rest, but I kinda need motivation

pilonpl

Ok but can we call it discrimination when it is illegal?

yes

pilonpl

Maybe but these examples aren't that great

And it's mostly social stuff and not about law. I think it's more important to eliminate discrimination in law first

Hopefully he can finish the map since gameplay and overall design idea is sick

nothing

Hopefully he can finish the map since gameplay and overall design idea is sick

feelsbadman

jana

yes

So what would you do to change that?

09:31

It is already illegal so like what else can you do

it’s not about what I would do to change it I just wanna tell you that there is discrimination (edited)

But it's not really wrong

09:33

Criminals might prefer some people over others

09:35

The criminals themselves are the issue

09:35

Not that they discriminate anyone

I mean it’s about their motive they target the women because of their gender then

How do we know it's about gender

sexual harassment?

I mean

09:38

Yeah

u tell me we don’t know it’s about gender but "A New Survey Finds 81 Percent Of Women Have Experienced Sexual Harassment" (from 2018)

I guess you might call it discrimination but it's not really a bad thing so

what?

We don't want to have the same amount of harassment for men and women

09:40

We don't want harassment at all

yeah obviously

Some people might be better targets for criminals

09:41

And it just happens that women are better targets for criminal than men

when we look at the motives there is a gender-based discrimination visible tho (edited)

I guess you would probably want to sexually harass the opposite gender

Jupstar ✪

@pilonpl let's face it you and me. we know the true nature of men. We just learned to control it

@pilonpl going back

So there is discrimination and it is technically illegal

09:44

So what's wrong?

09:44

That's how it's supposed to be

09:47

Access to education is a weird example

09:49

I never heard anyone complain about that

09:54

Men are actually discriminated by law

pilonpl

For me it seems like men are more discriminated than women

So that's what i meant

Social discrimination is definitely a thing

10:04

But the examples weren't that great imo

btw for me its hard to believe in the "pay gap" because companies and capitalism works by getting the cheapest option available, if a man and women did the same job with same perfomance, they would then only hire women if they are paid less

10:05

also bby my own experience in my family, my father always took the extra shifts he could, i never seen my mother do this, and they both work

10:06

u also have to understand that, if u study social studies, u wont find a really good paying job, but people like to study what they like, not what has opportunities

10:06

and i think men tend to choose studies with more outcomes

10:06

my 4cents

There are just way too many factors to say that the paygap is caused by gender (edited)

10:07

There might be correlation

10:07

But that's it

if women tend to choose more social works, which tend to pay less, and men more technical ones, which tend to pay more, there will be a "pay gap" yeah, but its not within same field

The difference isn't very big anyways from what i understand

Ryozuki

btw for me its hard to believe in the "pay gap" because companies and capitalism works by getting the cheapest option available, if a man and women did the same job with same perfomance, they would then only hire women if they are paid less

that's not the thing. If a woman gets pregnent, the company might loose money. But this is discrimination: 1. women are important for our society, because they give birth to kids 2. not all woman want (right now) have kids this is one classic excuse

And i think it's absolutely ok to choose employees based on thier gender or their look

Jupstar ✪

that's not the thing. If a woman gets pregnent, the company might loose money. But this is discrimination: 1. women are important for our society, because they give birth to kids 2. not all woman want (right now) have kids this is one classic excuse

woman getting pregnant = losing money, this is solved by giving the father the equal time off

10:10

i dont rly understand u try to say xd

pilonpl

And i think it's absolutely ok to choose employees based on thier gender or their look

i seen experiments of all women office company

10:10

i think it was a drama fest

10:10

xd

10:11

anyway the best is a mix, but its definitly based on what each gender tends to choose as a profession

easily said

10:12

easy solution to a complex topic. a.k.a. not the full truth

btw men also have lot of stigma in society, try to be a caregiver on a kindergarten as male

10:12

u will be seen as fcking creepy

Ryozuki

woman getting pregnant = losing money, this is solved by giving the father the equal time off

Solved?? It'd increase loss even more, that's a no no for capitalism

e.g. why are the most critical jobs often the worst paid

Learath2

Solved?? It'd increase loss even more, that's a no no for capitalism

its solved in that u equal the loss on both genders

Ryozuki

u will be seen as fcking creepy

xd

so u dont care for the gender

10:13

e.g u have a father in ur company and his partner has a kid

10:13

father will also take time off

10:13

so it doesnt matter if the father was the mother

the only real solution is. making robots do our jobs then there is no pay gap

Jupstar ✪

the only real solution is. making robots do our jobs then there is no pay gap

star trek

10:13

trekonomiks

10:13

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Ryozuki

u will be seen as fcking creepy

Honestly i think people talk about this but it never actually happens

pilonpl

Honestly i think people talk about this but it never actually happens

it happens

10:13

also

10:14

for example a father alone in a park with their kid

xd

i seen videos of women telling the father if their son is truly theirs

10:14

and they are not looking at other kids weirdly

10:14

in the park

10:14

u know perfectly well u will be more suspicious of a man than a women around kids

10:14

i know u are

10:15

but fun fact, mothers tend to do more suicide with their sons than men

Ryozuki

i seen videos of women telling the father if their son is truly theirs

I mean some people might think this way but most don't i think

Ryozuki

but fun fact, mothers tend to do more suicide with their sons than men

ye but from time to time, men drag entire familly by ending them first

is it rly common?

Ryozuki

btw for me its hard to believe in the "pay gap" because companies and capitalism works by getting the cheapest option available, if a man and women did the same job with same perfomance, they would then only hire women if they are paid less

I've read some papers with research done in the US that suggests it's a function of women just not asking for raises. I've also read some that suggest it's not statistically significanf after adjusting for the risk of loss on maternity leave and PMS

well i dont say it doesnt happen

10:17

wats PMS

Ryozuki

is it rly common?

i doubt it's common but it always makes the news

Overlord

i doubt it's common but it always makes the news

because its a men doing it

I'd be very happy if someone properly designed a study to answer this question so people can finally either stop talking about it or fix it

social studies are hard

10:18

xd

10:18

social economic studies*

also it's way harder to become a secretary in place like school as a male

and a nurse

10:18

but its also hard for women to get into STEM

10:18

or idk

idk worked at hospital male nurses are pretty common but ratio is 3:1

but i simply dont see a lot of women programming

10:18

atleast where i work

10:18

there are like 5?

10:18

and we are 100

Ryozuki

wats PMS

Premenstural Syndrome, unlucky side effect of being a woman is that a couple days out of every month you get a surprise annoyance

Learath2

I've read some papers with research done in the US that suggests it's a function of women just not asking for raises. I've also read some that suggest it's not statistically significanf after adjusting for the risk of loss on maternity leave and PMS

i should ask for a raise now that u say it xdd

in my technican highschool when i enrolled, there were 7 girls, but i dont remember if it was in entire school or just my year

Ryozuki

i should ask for a raise now that u say it xdd

don't ask for a raise: solidarity with women

10:20

and the special treatment was really annoying from side point of view

10:20

my sister makes 3x what i do

10:20

maybe 4x now

10:20

or 5

10:20

well

10:20

she lucky

10:20

and rich

she had 2000

10:21

patreons

10:21

if minimum is 3.5€

@Ryozuki 5x 0 is stil...

but most ppl dont choose minimum tier

Jupstar ✪

don't ask for a raise: solidarity with women

Don't ask for raise, be nice to your bosses. They deserve a 5th vacation home

Learath2

Don't ask for raise, be nice to your bosses. They deserve a 5th vacation home

xd

xd

10:21

atleast my boss lets me use rust

10:21

(edited)

Why won't anyone think of the poor ceos and landlords screams

screams

well tho, i think asking for raises is not the solution. bcs it's unfair for thoose who have a weak will and are still very good at their job (edited)

Jupstar ✪

well tho, i think asking for raises is not the solution. bcs it's unfair for thoose who have a weak will and are still very good at their job (edited)

im not good at asking either

10:22

but ig the key is to ask after a sucessfull project

10:22

but the best way to get a raise

LEAVE LANDLORDS ALONE, they gotta increase rent or all they get from U will just cover mortgage, of the place U rent, how will he ever buy more flatS?!

is to get a new job

i've been told the key is to jump jobs every 6-12 months

10:23

and always choosing just a tiny bit higher tier

i think key is 2years

10:23

if u change too much and they see ur resume

Jupstar ✪

well tho, i think asking for raises is not the solution. bcs it's unfair for thoose who have a weak will and are still very good at their job (edited)

This is actually a well known thing and there is actual data on it. People with worse social skills that are less assertive make less money for more work of comparable quality

u wont be seen as someone long term

10:23

and may not hire u

Let's make it illegal to have good social skills

xd

x

10:24

d

iks de

Ryozuki

if u change too much and they see ur resume

i thought so too, but yesterday i talked 3h with some guys, and apparently 1 year is now considered long

we should make ddnet co and become socially awkward CTOs

apparently we're not living in japan where one corpo for entire life

xd

gotta finish my laundry brb

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10:36

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10:36

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xd

Is rtx 4060ti a good gpu? Everyone hates 4060 for some reason lol

pilonpl

Is rtx 4060ti a good gpu? Everyone hates 4060 for some reason lol

the problem with these cards is, u basically have to pay for the extra perf over the last generation usually last gen price = new gen price => more perf

The price is basically the same tho

10:54

I guess it's just different economy

10:54

Or something

i mean u can buy from germany

10:54

mindfactory is probably the cheapest in europe

pilonpl

Is rtx 4060ti a good gpu? Everyone hates 4060 for some reason lol

so 4060ti compared to which?

10:55

an equally fast AMD card? or the 4060

Compared to 3060

10:56

Or 3060ti

ah well, they are probably not cheap bcs they aren't produced anymore

Is that how it works?

3070 could be around the same performance

pilonpl

Is that how it works?

yes

10:58

on ebay u might get them cheap

I would expect the opposite

well in the first months yes.. and also depends on the storage

10:58

like how many are left

10:59

but GPUs still rather have a shortage

People on reddit like rtx 4070

11:01

Amd is also an option i guess

11:01

But nvida is more popular

yeah

11:01

if u only gaming, u can easily go with amd

11:01

if u need linux. u should go with amd

11:01

else u are free

11:02

rx 7700 xt.. it's a bit faster than the 4060 ti. but also bit more expensive. more RAM https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/12GB-Sapphire-Radeon-RX-7700-XT-Pulse-Aktiv-PCIe-4-0-x16--Retail-_1506641.html cheapest 4060 ti: https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-Palit-GeForce-RTX-4060-Ti-Dual-Aktiv-PCIe-4-0-x16--x8-Retail-_1493061.html

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So is nvidia not a good experience on Linux?

it's ok

11:03

but i'd not say good

What are the issues

installing driver is harder. lot of software is designed with mesa drivers in mind (e.g. emulators), not open source, so less flexable to changes (as can be seen by rather bad wayland support)

11:04

else not much

11:05

it will work, and it will probably outperform windows in most cases xd

Nvidia is just more standard, that's why i am considering Nvidia

11:05

And they have dlss

11:06

And AI

11:06

Lol

true

11:06

but raytracing is probably not really an argument with the midrange GPUs

11:06

there u still need 4090 xd

Idk

11:07

Probably yes

anyway. just go with the 4060 ti if u like to

11:07

it's not a bad buy

11:07

during the next 6 months it's likely a new generation will drop tho

Idk if it's worth waiting

11:09

You could wait forever

11:10

Btw the drivers do have public source code

11:10

So is it really that bad (edited)

11:10

Even if it's not exactly open source

well yeah it's not open source

11:12

on linux all drivers use a base mesa implementation and basically only write the hardware acceleration code but this does not apply to nvidia

11:12

they ship their complete own runtimes

11:13

for vulkan it might be less bad than opengl tho tbf

11:13

but there is also other gpu related stuff (e.g. kernel part)

I like linux

was info that nividia gpus, outlive amd, false news?

why should they

11:16

what gets broken on gpus is the cooler

11:16

not the chip itself

well if the cooler breaks, and gpu wont turn off, wont it just burn?

it has overhead protection

11:17

but yeah it wont really be useable anymore

11:17

but what cooler is used depends on the manufacturer

11:17

not AMD or nvidia

well regarding protection sometimes things break, ( like my cpu/MB heat sensor) hence my fans have to run medium - full by manual setting, else they dont notice

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my MB is not a good example, as only half of usb ports work too :( (even tho i have cash, i dont see any good reason to upgrade pc)

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Does it make sense to buy a better cpu compared to the gpu

if u run minecraft yes else no

I think i have a better chance of using my cpu more

11:32

Because of Minecraft

at least for gaming the cpu still doesnt matter as much

better cpu allows better ram

11:33

which affects

11:33

ram speed

Some games are cpu intensive

most games don't scale well over like 4 cores

11:35

but anway

11:35

8 cores are soo cheap

11:36

u can easily buy one

It's not all about cores i think

yes, in fact it's mostly about single threaded perf. but exactly for that reasons it won't help with most games

11:40

they are designed to work on a PS5

11:40

how beatiful they look depends mostly on your GPU

I don't care about graphics

anyway

I like fps

if u want to game. buy better GPU than CPU

pilonpl

I like fps

most fps come from better GPU tho xD

11:41

except u play like ddnet only xD

Rightttt

11:42

I don't play games really loll

11:43

I watch YouTube

even a gtx 10 series GPU does the job for any Esport game, CPU and RAM is what you need the most care for

11:45

16 gbs of RAM is more than enough if all you do is gaming + doing web stuff

this is so much not true lmao

11:52

except u ok with playing on lowest settings

I mostly play ddnet

11:52

But i need 5k fps

on linux?

I play ddnet on linux

i hit 7k fps with my old ryzen 1800x already

11:53

so any modern CPU is easily enough

11:54

as for GPU, i guess it also almost doesnt matter.. a 4060 ti will very easily hit 7k+ FPS

11:54

ok, ofc always depends on if u play solor or with 32 ppl around u

11:54

that kills performance

Anyways, i don't really need some crazy good pc

11:55

But my current one is shit

11:55

I get like 40fps in colony survival

11:56

I am gpu limited in every game

Jupstar ✪

except u ok with playing on lowest settings

most of the people cannot afford a 4090

12:13

so yes, it is ok

12:15

Also most Esport games should be prefered to be run at medium settings at max if you are competitive and most of the time, people won't turn the settings to ultra settings, just to see the grass better

12:17

gtx 10 series is still in an acceptable and affordable rate, but if you want to buy amd gpus, then you'll have better deals there

It is low end tho

This is like saying, that if you don't run Doom on your fridge, then your fridge is worthless

If you don't need anything better thats ok

pilonpl

It is low end tho

If all you do is DDNet, then what I recommended (which I have and get around 1.5k minimum) is fine.

I want mid range i think

12:20

I probably can reuse some components

then a step-up (Ryzen 5 / Intel 5 -> 6 core CPUs) (gtx 1080) (16 - 20 gbs RAM) (edited)

12:21

idk what AMD gpu should I recommend, I didn't buy any

Gtx 1080 is old and probably considered low end in 2023

what motherboard you have? I may find some parts for a cheap prize

pilonpl

Does it make sense to buy a better cpu compared to the gpu

Oh you just only wanted to know? You plan on buying anything?

I have to buy a new mother board actually because my current one doesn't support sensible cpus

so like a new setup straight up?

I think i can reuse my power supply

12:28

And drives

12:29

It's always gonna be a bit cheaper

yes, wanted to know if you would keep the power supply

12:30

its damn expensive at this moment in time

12:30

how much can it produce?

Idk probably 500w

Cellegen

gtx 10 series is still in an acceptable and affordable rate, but if you want to buy amd gpus, then you'll have better deals there

where do u even get new gtx 10 series.. how much do u pay

12:35

i bet in europe it's not even much cheaper than a modern low range

Jupstar ✪

where do u even get new gtx 10 series.. how much do u pay

around 200 Euroes factory new, 100 - 150 Euroes used

Cellegen

around 200 Euroes factory new, 100 - 150 Euroes used

for a 1080?

1080 is around 250-300 factory new

pretty expensive tbh

well for a 1080 it is

12:36

1050 is definitely cheaper

12:36

but as well, you can buy a 20 series gpu

12:37

better performance, not that much difference in prize

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8GB-XFX-Radeon-RX-7600-Speedster-SWFT210-Gaming-Aktiv-PCIe-4-0-x16--x8-_1493167.html

8GB XFX Radeon RX 7600 Speedster SWFT210 Gaming Aktiv PCIe 4.0 x16 ...

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12:37

7600 is basically same speed as 1080

12:37

and much more efficient

there we go

well it's around 12% faster actually

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 RTX 4060Ti MSI B550-A PRO GOODRAM 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz CL18 IRDM PRO Deep Black I think this makes sense

pilonpl

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 RTX 4060Ti MSI B550-A PRO GOODRAM 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz CL18 IRDM PRO Deep Black I think this makes sense

sounds good enough for most tasks

I found this list on the internet just with a better gpu

btw I use MSI B440M but I would rather buy a Gigabyte 450M

pilonpl

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 RTX 4060Ti MSI B550-A PRO GOODRAM 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz CL18 IRDM PRO Deep Black I think this makes sense

Motherboard good, CPU good, idk how much the GPU costs, but if you are fine with it, then good, RAM is also fine

12:39

yeah, if you are happy with this spec, then go for it!

Jupstar ✪

sounds good enough for most tasks

I think it's pretty mid range, that's what the site i got this list from said

12:40

They actually recommend rtx 4070

12:40

But the difference isn't that huge

yeah, 4060 is fine

12:42

also it's around 850 Euroes

12:42

the 4070 one

Yes

598€

12:43

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/12GB-Gainward-Geforce-RTX-4070-Ghost-OC-Aktiv-PCIe-4-0-x16--Retail-_1489804.html

12GB Gainward Geforce RTX 4070 Ghost OC Aktiv PCIe 4.0 x16 (Retail)...

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pepeW

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But the version with 4060ti is quite a bit cheaper and still good enough for me i guess

Cellegen

pepeW

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don't buy in your local hungary shop

12:44

they charge extra money

i live in germany lol

lol

mindfactory is new hardware

12:44

and from germany

hmmm good

12:44

seems like you can find stuff in reasonable prizes

depends on if 600€ for mid range is reasonable xD

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/32GB-G-Skill-RipJaws-V-schwarz-DDR4-4000-DIMM-CL18-Dual-Kit_1394674.html

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12:46

32gb ram for 70? fucking good

mindfactory is 90% of the time the cheapest i'd say

12:46

sometimes ssd for example are cheaper on amazon

well yeah, especially samsung ones, but those are crappy as well

12:46

dies faster

Jupstar ✪

depends on if 600€ for mid range is reasonable xD

mid range for 600 Euroes is nice I guess

12:48

https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/16GB-G-Skill-Aegis-DDR4-3000-DIMM-CL16-Dual-Kit_1111126.html

16GB G.Skill Aegis DDR4-3000 DIMM CL16 Dual Kit - DDR4-3000 (PC4-24...

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12:48

found cheaper lol

12:49

okay im starting to like this site

i cant close cookie popup pepeW

pepeW

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Ssds are super cheap lol

12:52

Last time i checked they were twice as expensive

MilkeeyCat

i cant close cookie popup pepeW

pepeW

12:56

click the 2nd xd

i clicked it 100 times it doesnt give a fuck

turn off ad block

12:57

for that site

i dont even have adblock

12:57

install adblock

12:57

then turn it off on that site

xd

ublock origin

12:57

its a sin to not have it

It's impossible to breathe through you nose and mouth at the same time

14:49

why

bcs humans arent perfect

15:14

that's why

I wanted to say that it has to do with same thing as breathing (through nose)and swallowing but now i think i cant breathe and swallow

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