DDraceNetwork - questions

Neiky

I have a question, it's possible to connect a bot using an api link in js or py ?

Do you want to make a bot for DDnet?

kucer0043

Do you want to make a bot for DDnet?

A chat bot*

Neiky

A chat bot*

I know a library on node js

Neiky

A chat bot*

https://www.npmjs.com/package/teeworlds

teeworlds

Library for (ingame) teeworlds bots.. Latest version: 2.4.8, last published: a month ago. Start using teeworlds in your project by running npm i teeworlds. There are no other projects in the npm registry using teeworlds.

Note that bots are not allowed on official servers

Jupstar ✪

Note that bots are not allowed on official servers

There are also unofficial servers

Well to be clear, we have a rule to not talk about bots on this discord

07:05

Especially not about the development

07:05

This only motivates ppl to use them or create them

kucer0043

https://www.npmjs.com/package/teeworlds

The library dont work with me, i changed the code and it works but it's long and i want to know if a api link exist (edited)

Neiky

The library dont work with me, i changed the code and it works but it's long and i want to know if a api link exist (edited)

link to the game api?

08:36

regarding the library, please contact @Swarfey

Jupstar ✪

Note that bots are not allowed on official servers

well, there is a discord-bridge on the official ddnet block server & another one from childerdrangon on multeasy

Server side it's ok. But client side actually not

both client side bots*

Yes thats not ok

okay, good to know

I dunno the rules for block tho

13:04

But any automated input is not allowed on ddnet

yea, i believed that the bot rule only counts for automated input or bots that actually harm gameplay

I think it applies to all

13:05

Not only handful

13:05

Harm

Okay

But deal that out with the admins

I thought the rule was 'no cheating' not 'no botting'

13:06

Cheats arent always bots and vice versa

yep, i thought so too

13:06

but i cant even find the rules anymore

The rules are, clients that are listed in the server list, must be human players

noby

I thought the rule was 'no cheating' not 'no botting'

problem is. if everyone says "this is the rule" then u can flood servers with bots i can fully understand that these 1-2 bots make no harm.. but if u don't make easy clear rules. ppl start to lay them out to their wishes

Jupstar ✪

problem is. if everyone says "this is the rule" then u can flood servers with bots i can fully understand that these 1-2 bots make no harm.. but if u don't make easy clear rules. ppl start to lay them out to their wishes

Yeah there will always be people who try to find loopholes and act in bad faith but this rule doesnt prevent that either; they could just open up many copies of ddnet instead and it wouldnt make the behavior any less annoying

but then it's at least clearly against the rule

13:32

doesnt help for the problem

13:32

but for handling it

Considering the intent here is pretty important imo, flooding servers/artificially inflating playercount is pretty clearly bad faith but running a bridge bot doesnt seem like it fits that description

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but then it's at least clearly against the rule

Technically it wouldnt be tho?

ok then they run 64 discord bridges xD

noby

Technically it wouldnt be tho?

well i don't mean gameplay rules above. but i think our master server rules are. server list = real humans

So if i open 64 copies of ddnet client on my laptop and join each one to a different server is that breaking master rules

it's a greyzone, but strictly speaking probably not against the rule. except you could say 4 humans per ip is common for all servers in total

13:35

even if it's only handled per server

Jupstar ✪

The rules are, clients that are listed in the server list, must be human players

Right, i thought this rule was mostly so server owners dont inflate their own player count by adding fake clients

@noby hi noby long time no talk

13:45

is ur gf dealer still there

13:45

This is 2 different people lol

what is "/dnd" command?

Jupstar ✪

But any automated input is not allowed on ddnet

hmmmm. so bots that prevent inputs are allowed?

14:40

thats a big loophole xdd

14:41

if you only ban by definition ofc (edited)

Teero

hmmmm. so bots that prevent inputs are allowed?

no

exosphere

what is "/dnd" command?

I think it prevents you from getting chat messages, maybe?

heinrich5991

no

gimme a definition

an approximation is: any gameplay-related input must work the same as in an official client

so something like a spinbot would be allowed? it doesnt change any gameplay in ddrace right?

does the official client work like that?

sure

xd

Teero

so something like a spinbot would be allowed? it doesnt change any gameplay in ddrace right?

I don't see a spinbot in the official client

there is one on the serverside xddd

14:50

with the debug dummies thing

14:50

anyway

that's ok anyway

so no input modifications?

from the client