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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 05:07:01Z
fun fact, vscode uses ripgrep made in rust
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Voxel 2023-09-08 05:08:23Z
ok
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 05:08:58Z
so ur using rust made software
05:09
gigachad
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cyberFighter 2023-09-08 05:09:41Z
no im not
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Ryozuki
so ur using rust made software
Voxel 2023-09-08 05:11:00Z
❌
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typescript
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if i had the time and energy rn id continue chipping at the thing i was doing but its 1 am
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i love making pointless adobe jsfls (edited)
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-09-08 06:39:35Z
oof running clang tidy on arch is messy af seems like the new version doesnt like the use of static functions
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 06:43:58Z
@Jupstar ✪ did u prepare todays question
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noted
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-09-08 06:44:43Z
rost fridai
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:13:25Z
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its firefox update day
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Ryozuki
@Jupstar ✪ did u prepare todays question
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 07:13:54Z
Mhh What is the best library you recently found
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:14:08Z
https://github.com/moka-rs/moka
GitHub - moka-rs/moka: A high performance concurrent caching librar...
A high performance concurrent caching library for Rust - GitHub - moka-rs/moka: A high performance concurrent caching library for Rust
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there is also https://docs.rs/cached/latest/cached/ but its diferent
cached - Rust
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07:15
cached is more for memoizing
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:34:43Z
Wasmer is the most popular WebAssembly runtime for Rust. It supports JIT (Just In Time) and AOT (Ahead Of Time) compilation as well as pluggable compilers suited to your needs.
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@Jupstar ✪ nice wasmer supports AOT too
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im gonna tinker with it
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Ryozuki
@Jupstar ✪ nice wasmer supports AOT too
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 07:41:40Z
I'm more surprised it supports jit.. never seen an example for that xd
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:42:43Z
@Jupstar ✪ to make wasm modules with rust u use wasm-pack?=
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Ryozuki
@Jupstar ✪ to make wasm modules with rust u use wasm-pack?=
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 07:43:35Z
No, why?
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:44:20Z
wasm-bindgen?
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what do u use
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i want to know to test with wasmer
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xd
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 07:45:11Z
They are all for JavaScript or not?
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:45:40Z
ah i see
07:45
so how u do it
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u simply declare extern functions?
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and target wasm32?
07:46
today rust friday is for me xd
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 07:47:09Z
No. Wasm runtime has a completely separated memory model.You cannot really just call it. I share memory over a serializer, and call the function of the wasmer API
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:48:06Z
im just asking
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how u make a wasm module
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oh
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so u dont call host functions?
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Ryozuki
so u dont call host functions?
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 07:48:41Z
i do, in wasmer you export host functions
07:48
so yes, host functions are basically external functions
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i thought u meant calling a guest function
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:50:04Z
https://github.com/wasmerio/wasmer/blob/master/examples/imports_exports.rs
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i thought u meant calling a guest function
Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:50:23Z
i mean u can do that too
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 07:50:23Z
in the export you also bind a environment (Arc<Env>>) and that gets called as well. So over that env you basically modify whatever you want to modify
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:50:39Z
https://github.com/wasmerio/wasmer/blob/master/examples/exports_function.rs
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calling a guest
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 07:50:54Z
yes
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:51:01Z
let sum_typed: TypedFunction<(i32, i32), i32> = sum.typed(&mut store)?; println!("Calling `sum` function (natively)..."); // Let's call the `sum` exported function. The parameters are // statically typed Rust values of type `i32` and `i32`. The // result, in this case particular case, in a unit of type `i32`. let result = sum_typed.call(&mut store, 3, 4)?;
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 07:51:35Z
sadly wasmer has no scoped call.. so i have to use unsafe for imports
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yeah i meant imports above*
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imported into the guest
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it's weird naming ^^
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@Ryozuki what do you want to use it for?
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:56:08Z
i want to test a wasm host + guest
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 07:56:12Z
i can only recommend from personal experience to move as much into the module as possible and don't do one call per function like system(so not that func1 calls func1 on wasm, func2 calls func2 etc.)
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:56:22Z
to learn it
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Ryozuki
i want to test a wasm host + guest
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 07:57:02Z
i c. It's fun, but it would also be nice if it would be easier 😄
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the most important thing you need to know is, that the global memory of the guest is always called "memory". so: instance.exports.get_memory("memory") Will give you the guest memory export. WASM uses linear memory, so this memory export can grow
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i think generally understanding the memory model is important.. the rest is basically just calling functions by string names xd
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:59:30Z
rn im just trying to figure out how to make 1 crate in a workspace compile to wasm32 and the other not
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xd
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 07:59:49Z
xd
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 07:59:51Z
i probs need nightly feature
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 08:00:17Z
i don't build any wasm module automatically.. i don't want the wasm toolchain as must have to compile the client
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 08:00:36Z
https://doc.rust-lang.org/cargo/reference/unstable.html#per-package-target
Unstable Features - The Cargo Book
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well for me its more like a nice workflow
08:00
but ur right
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 08:30:01Z
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justatest
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GitHub BOT 2023-09-08 08:36:19Z
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[ddnet:master] 6 new commits
a9157e8 CI: Move ASan/UBSan to own build directory - Kaffeine 225b175 CMake: Set the minimum CMake version to 3.12 - Kaffeine d0ecb5f CMake: Rework the versioning - Kaffeine f6172a2 CMake: Add version range validation - Kaffeine 0cea5b0 CMake: Remove the code for old CMake versions - Kaffeine ee1b8ba Merge pull request #7145 from infclass/for-ddnet4 - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7145 Cleanup CMake, adjust the version variables
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7148 mastersrv: Go to RawValue directly
Instead of going through String.

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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7146 Allow countryflag scrolling in player settings while name/clan input selected
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7149 Don't compile .h.in, remove C compiler flags
We don't have any own C source files anymore.

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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 10:03:23Z
look @Learath2 they are removing you
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We don't have any own C source files anymore.
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[ddnet:master] 3 new commits
db5f28e .h.in aren't compiled - heinrich5991 cebc472 Remove C-only compiler flag - heinrich5991 4108ccd Merge pull request #7149 from heinrich5991/pr_ddnet_cmakelists_cleanup - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7149 Don't compile .h.in, remove C compiler flags
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7148 mastersrv: Go to RawValue directly
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Ryozuki
We don't have any own C source files anymore.
Learath2 2023-09-08 10:09:22Z
I may aswell resign AnyaSob
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 10:12:16Z
#[no_mangle] pub fn add(left: u32, right: u32) -> u32 { left + right }
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❯ cargo r -- target/wasm32-unknown-unknown/debug/guest.wasm Finished dev [optimized + debuginfo] target(s) in 0.04s Running `target/debug/host target/wasm32-unknown-unknown/debug/guest.wasm` [host/src/main.rs:20] &result = [ I32(4), ]
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 10:12:26Z
epic
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 10:12:27Z
epic
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i32 but the comment says ints in wasm are sign agnostic
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 10:12:50Z
the safest add two numbers ever
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 10:12:53Z
xd
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 10:12:59Z
safe rust compiled to wasm xd
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now create bindgen xd
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 10:13:43Z
bindgen?
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 10:13:58Z
create a macro that automates anything u done here by hand
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 10:14:17Z
ah
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but i dont want the guest to just be rust
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but im interested in how to call a host function now
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let me try
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#[no_mangle] pub fn add(left: i32, right: i32) -> i32 { unsafe { print_wasm(left) }; unsafe { print_wasm(right) }; left + right } extern { fn print_wasm(a: i32); }
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this worked lol
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fn print_wasm(_env: FunctionEnvMut<MyEnv>, a: i32) { println!("{a}"); }
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#[no_mangle] pub fn add(left: i32, right: i32) -> i32 { unsafe { print_wasm(left) }; unsafe { print_wasm(right) }; left + right } extern { fn print_wasm(a: i32); }
Ryozuki 2023-09-08 10:22:01Z
(this is wasm)
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 10:23:25Z
good project for FFR
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 10:28:08Z
now do strings, I'm interested @Ryozuki
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integers are cheating, they're native types
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 10:28:17Z
yeah i was trying
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i cant put &str in signatur
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 10:38:04Z
Hehe
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I hinted you some stuff. But yeah now the hard part starts
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 10:56:57Z
pub fn host_import(mut env: FunctionEnvMut<()>, memory: Memory, ptr: WasmPtr<u32>) { let memory = memory.view(&env); let derefed_ptr = ptr.deref(&memory); let inner_val: u32 = derefed_ptr.read().expect("pointer in bounds"); println!("Got {} from Wasm memory address 0x{:X}", inner_val, ptr.offset()); // update the value being pointed to derefed_ptr.write(inner_val + 1).expect("pointer in bounds"); } @Jupstar ✪ the docs for WasmPtr show this
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but
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fn accept_str(mut env: FunctionEnvMut<()>, memory: Memory, ptr: WasmPtr<u8>, len: u32) {
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it wont accept me this signature lol
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 11:05:14Z
ok i got the host side
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❯ cargo r -- target/wasm32-unknown-unknown/debug/guest.wasm Finished dev [optimized + debuginfo] target(s) in 0.04s Running `target/debug/host target/wasm32-unknown-unknown/debug/guest.wasm` 2 2 adding 2 to 2 [host/src/main.rs:39] &result = [ I32(4), ]
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#[no_mangle] pub fn add(left: i32, right: i32) -> i32 { unsafe { print_wasm(left); print_wasm(right); let str = format!("adding {} to {}", left, right); accept_str(str.as_ptr(), str.len() as u32); } left + right } extern { fn print_wasm(a: i32); fn accept_str(ptr: *const u8, len: u32); }
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@Jupstar ✪ i got it
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epyc
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the trick is a functionenv with a option field to memory
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let instance = Instance::new(&mut store, &module, &import_object)?; let env = env.as_mut(&mut store); let mem = instance.exports.get_memory("memory")?; env.memory = Some(mem.clone());
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and setting it after the instance
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 11:21:07Z
this is it
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i love wasm now
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bye rust (joke)
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 11:21:41Z
Xd
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 11:21:48Z
lua has a compiler to wasm right
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i wonder how this would work
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are there pointers in lua
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 11:22:09Z
Does it?
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 11:22:16Z
u said there was a compiler to wasm
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no?
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 11:22:18Z
I mean compiler
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 11:22:23Z
i forgor
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Ryozuki
no?
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 11:22:35Z
I suggested to run the lua interpreter inside wasm
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 11:22:46Z
ah
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the interpreter itself
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 11:22:53Z
Yeah
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 11:23:12Z
js compiles to wasm?
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 11:23:33Z
Doubt. There is assemblyscript
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 11:23:36Z
hm
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 11:23:42Z
It's basically typescript for wasm
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 11:23:43Z
so for modding we could only use c++, rust
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what else
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 11:23:51Z
No, we can use all
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 11:23:59Z
how
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 11:24:08Z
U can compile most stuff to wasm
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So complete the interpreter to wasm
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And run it there
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Compile*
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 11:24:49Z
meh
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 11:25:22Z
Well its only a small overhead compared to directly using the interpreter
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 11:25:24Z
whqt about python
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 11:25:42Z
Same for any language xd
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You have to understand one thing anyway. A real python interpreter would be unsafe
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It can open files
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 11:27:32Z
rust is better
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it wont compile if u do non wasmthings
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when targeting wasm
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the end result is: rust for all and all for rust
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thanks for coming to my ted talk
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 11:28:53Z
Yep xd
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At least wasm offers okish perf
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That's where all script languages Fall behind
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ReiTW 2023-09-08 11:51:10Z
lol u can spam notifications on apple devices with a flipper zero
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Ryozuki
@Patiga can u update vek dep to 0.16 in twmap or reexport it?
Patiga 2023-09-08 13:13:55Z
can do when I'm home, I do kinda try to keep the dependencies up-to-date
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ReiTW
lol u can spam notifications on apple devices with a flipper zero
Iza 2023-09-08 13:15:10Z
Yeah you basically send bluetooth header packets that mimic apple products like airpods etc
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:33:14Z
https://napi.rs/
Home – NAPI-RS
NAPI-RS is a framework for building Node.js addons in Rust.
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:34:43Z
@Ryozuki have u heard of https://github.com/vercel/turbo to replace webpack written in rust
GitHub - vercel/turbo: Incremental bundler and build system optimiz...
Incremental bundler and build system optimized for JavaScript and TypeScript, written in Rust – including Turbopack and Turborepo. - GitHub - vercel/turbo: Incremental bundler and build system opti...
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:37:58Z
ah
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hm no but nice
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i think today ppl use another thing
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called vite
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ah
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its a unrelated tool maybe
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https://github.com/vitejs/vite
GitHub - vitejs/vite: Next generation frontend tooling. It's fast!
Next generation frontend tooling. It's fast! Contribute to vitejs/vite development by creating an account on GitHub.
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svelte uses vite
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:38:51Z
no rust no trust
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:39:08Z
vite uses https://rollupjs.org/
Rollup
The JavaScript module bundler
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yeah turbo is probs faster if rust
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:40:01Z
@Ryozuki what rust crate do you recommend for creating https servers
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i want it simple if possible
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 13:41:41Z
axum I heard
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http at least. for https, you usually use a reverse proxy
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@Ryozuki what rust crate do you recommend for creating https servers
Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:42:30Z
axum
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i use axum always
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axum is made by tokio team
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:42:50Z
okay
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:42:56Z
i recommend axum having tried: axum, actix-web, rocket
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 13:44:12Z
do you have an opinion on warp btw?
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:44:21Z
i have a service i made for FFXIV, https://market.xivhub.org/
Xivhub Market
View FFXIV market board data.
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the backend for this is powered by axum
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i handle millions of requests achtually
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https://github.com/ZhyraPlugins/xivhub-market-api
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source code
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 13:44:57Z
millions of requests per …?
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:45:01Z
month
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XD
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sorry no hype
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Ryozuki
i recommend axum having tried: axum, actix-web, rocket
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:45:23Z
that's what i wanted to hear
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:45:23Z
let me check cloudflare
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Image attachment
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ddstats has 300k
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well the ddnet wiki has way more requests tho
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i cant check cloudflare but i can check nginx logs
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Jupstar ✪
that's what i wanted to hear
Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:48:05Z
what u doin btw
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i also recommend not using a ORM
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and instead use sqlx with sqlx-cli to handle migrations
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what u doin btw
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:48:31Z
just want to test a simple http request -> image answer
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:48:36Z
ohh
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tee renderer?
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Ryozuki
tee renderer?
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:48:44Z
LMAO
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:48:45Z
i had my idea to do that but i haver to fix the tee
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have*
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Ryozuki
i had my idea to do that but i haver to fix the tee
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:48:56Z
well that's indeed my idea
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xD
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:49:00Z
lmao
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do it please
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 13:49:03Z
@Ryozuki do you know warp?
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:49:05Z
and make it open source
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:49:15Z
but i don't really want it to work like you think
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:49:16Z
@heinrich5991 i tried it long ago and i didnt like my xp with it
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it felt a bit confusing iirc
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:49:21Z
i want to test to run vulkan on my server xD
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:49:24Z
but i was also not as experienced
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but the warp author didnt discontinue it?
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he is just working on hyper iirc
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:49:56Z
so not directly a pure tee renderer
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but i don't really want it to work like you think
Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:49:58Z
ah, i wanted a simple api service to render tee from skins on request
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:50:01Z
more like a tw renderer
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 13:51:34Z
i just bought nou.is
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:51:57Z
this site can't be reached
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 13:52:05Z
cuz i just bought it
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Ewan 2023-09-08 13:52:13Z
kek
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gm
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:52:30Z
oh btw im migrating most of my domains from gandi to google domains
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as they expire
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its cheaper for some reason
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 13:52:46Z
I wouldn't use google tbh
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Ewan 2023-09-08 13:52:47Z
the google illusion
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 13:52:53Z
they lock you out, you have no recourse
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Ewan
gm
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:53:09Z
good afternoon
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 13:53:11Z
isn't google domains sold to squarespace or something
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:53:12Z
can they lock u out of ur own domain? i know they can do that from adsense and stuff
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yeah
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they sold it
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Jupstar ✪
good afternoon
Ewan 2023-09-08 13:53:20Z
wdym it’s 7:53
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Ryozuki
can they lock u out of ur own domain? i know they can do that from adsense and stuff
heinrich5991 2023-09-08 13:53:28Z
they lock you out of GCE, too, destroying businesses overnight
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Ewan
wdym it’s 7:53
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:53:30Z
3:53
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:53:38Z
i think locking out of ur domain has more legal implicaitons?
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Ewan 2023-09-08 13:53:38Z
Your timezone is wrong
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:53:40Z
thats crazy
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@heinrich5991 what domain web u use?
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 13:53:57Z
I use inwx.de
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Ewan
Your timezone is wrong
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:54:00Z
yes, i live in future, bcs i'm future human
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Ewan 2023-09-08 13:54:05Z
monkaStop
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:54:06Z
hello dear past human
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 13:54:14Z
it's german, so maybe you don't like it
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:54:31Z
i just love how clean google interface is
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 13:54:33Z
someone recommended it to me, it worked well
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:54:36Z
why good stuff is bad sage
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sadge
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well google domains wont exist
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 13:55:05Z
oof, i forgot i had the ddrace ones justatest
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:55:28Z
r they so cheap?
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i always find domains rather expensive
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 13:55:44Z
german domains are like 6€/year
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:55:48Z
yes
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expensive xd
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 13:56:11Z
tencent gave me teel.ink for free (not really)
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:57:00Z
on netcup u often get .de domains for 13 cents per month xd
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:57:11Z
anyone tried cloudflare for domains?
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:57:12Z
but anything not .de is expensive in my experience
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TsFreddie
tencent gave me teel.ink for free (not really)
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:57:25Z
1000000€ / year i bet xd
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ink sounds expensive
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i want .ar
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 13:57:41Z
jupst
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:57:42Z
but it's very expensive
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jupst
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:57:45Z
😬
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 13:58:12Z
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:58:20Z
55 chinese characters
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 13:58:22Z
7 euro
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:58:32Z
sounds ok
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if it's per year
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 13:58:38Z
ye
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nou.is isn't cheap tho
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it's like 47 usd justatest
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:59:12Z
what even is .is
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islamic state?
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:59:32Z
u know there is .google
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 13:59:40Z
iceland
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:59:43Z
.org best anyway
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 13:59:43Z
apparently
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 13:59:48Z
i once heard u can buy TLD for like 100k
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not sure if true
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 13:59:53Z
yeah
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google did
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 14:00:05Z
let's collect donations xd
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 14:00:19Z
there is .ee
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TsFreddie
iceland
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 14:00:22Z
oh ok.. i mean from a german perspective it makes sense Island = iceland xd
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 14:00:25Z
.weeb
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 14:00:31Z
😬
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 14:00:35Z
i tried some ending with t, didn't find any good ones
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 14:00:37Z
😬
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when .rust
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 14:00:48Z
@Ryozuki u work for argentinians.. ask them for .ar domain xd
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 14:00:57Z
why do i want one xd
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 14:01:06Z
i want it
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 14:01:12Z
u can buy it probs
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just likeu can buy .es
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 14:01:27Z
>> 20€ is too much for a domain imo
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 14:01:31Z
xd
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 14:01:39Z
i mean it has no real value
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 14:01:40Z
just go to a argentina registar
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 14:01:44Z
xD
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 14:02:04Z
some european domains check contacts i think?
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 14:03:08Z
.cat says it checks the web has atleast a catalan version
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and it cant be used for cats
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tm
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 14:03:21Z
pepeW
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 14:03:44Z
http://nyan.cat/
Nyan.Cat!
The Official Homepage of Nyan Cat!
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the trick is
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to make it available in catalan
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there is a language selection
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 14:04:08Z
so it can be used for cats? ^^
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so it can be used for cats? ^^
Ryozuki 2023-09-08 14:04:28Z
if it has text in catalan ye iirc
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TsFreddie 2023-09-08 14:05:13Z
kinda want a .no domain
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 14:05:16Z
The .cat TLD is intended to serve the needs of the Catalan Linguistic and Cultural Community on the Internet (the “Community”). The Community consists of those who use the Catalan language for their online communications, and/or promote the different aspects of Catalan culture online, and/or want to specifically address their online communications to that Community.
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Voxel 2023-09-08 14:05:19Z
ew theres nyan cat nfts? (edited)
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Voxel
ew theres nyan cat nfts? (edited)
TsFreddie 2023-09-08 14:05:44Z
i mean, are you really surprised
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Registry’s policies may permit registrations in .cat TLD to the following: Universities, schools, research institutions and other academic entities that use Catalan in their academic activities or teach/promote aspects of Catalan culture. public or private entities whose aim is promoting the Catalan culture. writers, translators, correctors and journalists publishing (or contributing to) works in Catalan publishing companies that publish works in the Catalan language or relating to the Catalan culture. media using the Catalan language for their communications. individuals, groups, businesses, organizations, entities or initiatives, however constituted, carrying online communications in Catalan. individuals, groups, businesses, organizations, entities or initiatives, however constituted, proving their belonging to the Community by way of sponsorship from other members of the Community in the form established in the Registration Policies. members of Fundació puntCAT
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TsFreddie
i mean, are you really surprised
Voxel 2023-09-08 14:06:16Z
no
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 14:06:49Z
this is the rule but idk how often enforced
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7150 Revert ".h.in aren't compiled"
This allows the version.h.in file to show up in IDEs. This reverts commit db5f28e65ac7b5dbe61614be208d704d820226c3.

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
  • [ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 14:36:39Z
@Learath2 do u know about the new BORE scheduler?
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do u know how to use it in gentoo
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https://github.com/firelzrd/bore-scheduler
GitHub - firelzrd/bore-scheduler: BORE (Burst-Oriented Response Enh...
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 14:38:57Z
TIL rust depedency any_lib_inside_repo = { git = "file:///globalpath" }
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kinda funny u can specify git repos like that
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TIL rust depedency any_lib_inside_repo = { git = "file:///globalpath" }
heinrich5991 2023-09-08 14:42:08Z
mm you'd usually use a path dependency for that
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mm you'd usually use a path dependency for that
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 14:42:23Z
but then i need to link the lib directly
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repos are fully scanned
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xd
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Ewan 2023-09-08 14:44:06Z
speaking of scheduler which one should I use
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but then i need to link the lib directly
heinrich5991 2023-09-08 14:44:09Z
wdym, link to the lib directly?
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wdym, link to the lib directly?
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 14:45:03Z
the path to the lib directly, instead using the root
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 14:45:19Z
path = "/abc/def" probably works, too, no?
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aah
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I get it
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 14:45:35Z
not if i not use the direct path tolib
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xd
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heinrich5991 2023-09-08 14:45:52Z
you mean it doesn't work with the path to the workspace
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with path = "…"
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you mean it doesn't work with the path to the workspace
Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 14:47:29Z
well it is indeed a different project. but yeah i just want to link to it's workspace so i don't have to find all paths for all libs
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speaking of scheduler which one should I use
Ryozuki 2023-09-08 14:50:16Z
i think u can only change scheduler by applying kernel patches
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iirc
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but i seen some videos
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TKG-pds seems the best specially for gaming
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but BORE is new
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and i havent seen benches
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@Learath2 do u know about the new BORE scheduler?
Learath2 2023-09-08 14:56:31Z
Nope, haven't seen it yet
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If you want to try a new scheduler you'll need to use epatches
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Maybe someone already has a kernel package with this patchset in some overlay?
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i think u can only change scheduler by applying kernel patches
Ewan 2023-09-08 15:00:04Z
i wasn’t gonna use the distribution kernel forever
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this is fine i think
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #7151 Chat rendering bug on OpenGL
Join a server and wait for chat to disappear, then use chat all hi !screenshot_2023-09-08_17-24-14
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
ae7eda1 revert change to quad selection (resolves 7025) - Marmare314 f3eaa10 Merge pull request #7102 from Marmare314/revert-6844 - Robyt3
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7102 revert change to quad selection (resolves #7025)
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7025 Discussion on quad point selection
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 16:05:16Z
@Robyt3 😬
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Robyt3 2023-09-08 16:05:23Z
Yeah, when PR's for label changes?
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 16:05:36Z
whats going on
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 16:05:39Z
xDDD
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Robyt3 2023-09-08 16:05:45Z
We edited tags at the same time and it conflicted
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 16:05:48Z
xd
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race condition
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 16:06:04Z
github moment
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chillerdragon: ^
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-08 16:06:35Z
Indeed
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Very GitHub
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-08 16:26:25Z
@Kaffeine: oh no infclass is vanilla 0.6 based bro. You do all the refactorings haha. Reminds me of my humble 0.7 support beginnings of cherry picking random upstream commits into ddnet. I can’t imagine what it’s like porting that to ddnet. Good luck bro! Reminds me of the insane ddnet++ merge to ddnet. That was nuts. It was a seperate git repo. Where the initial commit was from me. And I somehow managed to get years of my history attached on the ddnet history and then merge back up to master.
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Looked like this for days
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Was jumping from ddnet release to release and doing a lot of merges
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Which is also horrible because the troll deen force pushed away release tags
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Voxel 2023-09-08 16:32:30Z
now that im thinking about it damn ddnet has been in some sort of update drought as of recently
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-08 16:33:05Z
Still getting weekly conflicts in all my forks
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ddnet code base moves way too fast
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And teeworlds code base too slow
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@Voxel: ddnet is not Update dry! Did you see teeworlds? :D
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Voxel 2023-09-08 16:34:11Z
no
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oh wait OHHHH
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-08 16:35:15Z
There was 1 feature release in my decade long playtime
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ddnet does crazy updates all the time. For example a lot of editor things happening right now
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Voxel 2023-09-08 16:35:56Z
anyways i think ddnet is gonna become more backwards compat after 0.7 support releases
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like, more and more old things will be supported
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-08 16:36:29Z
Like 0.6 ? :D
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Voxel 2023-09-08 16:36:38Z
isnt This 0.6
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-08 16:36:56Z
That’s the joke
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It’s still old
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 16:42:41Z
https://beta.tauri.app/blog/roadmap-to-tauri-2-0/
Roadmap to Tauri 2.0
The cross-platform app building toolkit
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anyways i think ddnet is gonna become more backwards compat after 0.7 support releases
Kaffeine 2023-09-08 16:43:20Z
DDNet is backward compatible on the network level but on the codebase and API it is the Elusive Joe. Every patch release results in conflicts here and there (at least on the client side).
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Ryozuki 2023-09-08 16:46:21Z
https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-375
Friday Facts #375 - Quality | Factorio
Hello, Today we are going to talk a little bit about a big feature in the expansion, Quality!
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@Kaffeine: oh no infclass is vanilla 0.6 based bro. You do all the refactorings haha. Reminds me of my humble 0.7 support beginnings of cherry picking random upstream commits into ddnet. I can’t imagine what it’s like porting that to ddnet. Good luck bro! Reminds me of the insane ddnet++ merge to ddnet. That was nuts. It was a seperate git repo. Where the initial commit was from me. And I somehow managed to get years of my history attached on the ddnet history and then merge back up to master.
Kaffeine 2023-09-08 16:53:01Z
Yeah but "This is the way". Infclass is huge — 24 entity types, 28 weapons, 22 player classes, custom map format with own external map editor, localization with "2 248 words to translate", statistics, classes menu, and the original author decided to refactor some base classes (CConsole) 🤯. I wrote own CMake file (so no, I don't benefit from https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/7145) and build with conan, so everything is different.
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Initially whole mod logic was baked into the base classes (CServer, CCharacter, CPlayer, etc). (edited)
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ddnet does crazy updates all the time. For example a lot of editor things happening right now
cyberFighter 2023-09-08 16:56:20Z
the editor got changed like 30 times this month
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Kaffeine 2023-09-08 16:58:47Z
True. A few month ago I added initial infclass maps support to the client fork, and damn the implementation took twice less time than I already spent on the many rebases of the editor code. 🤯 😅
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@Chairn are you perhaps around?
Chairn 2023-09-08 17:37:08Z
sometimes i am 😉
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i hope it wasn't too important
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i hope it wasn't too important
Learath2 2023-09-08 17:45:09Z
No, I was just curious if you knew about how much leakage current modern mosfets have 😄
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Chairn 2023-09-08 17:45:45Z
depends on the feature size
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since 28nm node, leakage is rising again due to smaller gates, so 14nm is more leaky than 22nm for instance
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i think it's around 100pA to 1nA
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you have to account for dynamic power, i.e. switching activity which is proportionate to the frequency and to the square of voltage (edited)
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Pdyn = CV²f (edited)
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and then, you also need to account for line effects which are R and C
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cyberFighter 2023-09-08 18:16:57Z
ugh, mixing cyrillic into the latin serbian. i swear ill edit it myself some time soon
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Iza 2023-09-08 19:27:39Z
since when is cyberfighter serbian
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-09-08 19:35:13Z
since today 🥳
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GitHub BOT 2023-09-08 19:40:33Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7152 Quit client and server when starting with elevated privileges
Launching client and server with elevated privileges can cause files and folders to have inconsistent permissions and should never be necessary. Therefore, immediately quit client and server if elevated privileges are detected. On Unix, this mean the process was launched either by the "root" user itself or by using the "sudo" command on a regular user. On Windows, this means the process was launched by giving it administrative access using User Account Control (UAC). This does not inclu...
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Iza
since when is cyberfighter serbian
gerdoe 2023-09-08 20:06:11Z
he was like always serbian
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thats why he refuses to talk with me troll (edited)
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[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request opened: #269 Update renames: reference ticket system
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #7153 Mod Support: CMake: Use DDNet_VERSION to construct DDNET_VERSION_NUMBER
CLIENT_VERSIONNR is used to declare DDNet protocol capabilities. It makes no sense for a forked client to suddenly report different DDNet client version for the same codebase. Equally for the server code it makes no sense to report SERVER_DEMO_CLIENT DDNet version different (lower) than what is supported by this code base (and e.g. record network events generated for some old client version). This way the mods can define their project with own version after DDNet project() to at the ...
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Teero 2023-09-08 20:55:02Z
wth
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yt goin wild
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Iza 2023-09-08 21:25:57Z
When you’ve gone through all the english tutorials on youtube
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[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request closed: #269 Update renames: reference ticket system
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[ddnet-web:master] 2 new commits
8514e54 Update renames: reference ticket system - Robyt3 93efdda Merge pull request #269 from Robyt3/Rename-Update - def-
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[ddnet:master] 3 new commits
1074a5f CMake: Use DDNet_VERSION to construct DDNET_VERSION_NUMBER - Kaffeine 6b78013 CMake: Set package version to the project version - Kaffeine b951eab Merge pull request #7153 from infclass/for-ddnet4 - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7153 Mod Support: CMake: Use DDNet_VERSION to construct DDNET_VERSION_NUMBER
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #7154 deep freeze prediction works poorly
If the server deep freezes you forcefully without your local client predicting you entered a deep freeze tile (or you mispredicted and entered deep freeze anyway) you will still be able to do local inputs for about a second. This doesn't happen with regular freeze only deep freeze.
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #7155 DDNetLaser type FREEZE and DOOR won't take custom startTick anymore?
When they got added it was possible to adjust for example the thickness by modifying the starttick. It seems like that only works for regular lasers (rifle) and shotgun now. That's really sad for mods, and I really wonder why this was required for ANTIPING OFF. I suspect this commit: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/e10f52821510fe37b47aa91de627b7bba2235b27 @trml could you change that again and adjust it to work the way it worked before? It broke something in my mod, and as I said I...
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