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Between 2023-09-07 00:00:00Z and 2023-09-08 00:00:00Z
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Nik_Hard
now i have auto-kog maker)) from this blocks i got blocks with freeze around :)
better idea: u map open space and then it fills everything else with freeze/walls greenthing
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Nik_Hard
now i have auto-kog maker)) from this blocks i got blocks with freeze around :)
U should try to map real maps xd
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Cøke
U should try to map real maps xd
easy
11:00
I wait for it
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Layout Auto-kog Edit
11:06
@Cøke hehe, wery easy :)
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Ar1gin
better idea: u map open space and then it fills everything else with freeze/walls greenthing
what are you mean? like from this: do this?: if yes, it's beautiful idea! Thanks!! (edited)
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interesting idea , i even know how to do it 😛 ( maybe my way is different )
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Nik_Hard
@Cøke hehe, wery easy :)
I mean real map
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i do with many if
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agh no idea i thinked it deletes 1 layer of hook , then i don't have ideas how you did it
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Cøke
I mean real map
oh, maby i'll try in a couple of years)))
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texnonik
agh no idea i thinked it deletes 1 layer of hook , then i don't have ideas how you did it
i don't do this, it's just a example
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but... i know, how to do this!!)
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i think i know how to make all hook around in 1 block to freeze (edited)
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texnonik, for that programm you need to check is air block around tile left, right, up, down, angles. If there is a block, you can replace that block with freeze
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-07 12:24:57Z
@Nik_Hard: is it a client edit or automapper? As far as i remmber automapper files can only look at one layer right?
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aw this is gonna deflate the value of my big gores map i am working manually on since half a decade :c
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chillerdragon
@Nik_Hard: is it a client edit or automapper? As far as i remmber automapper files can only look at one layer right?
This is programm on python, that takes info of game tiles layer, modifies it and save the map.
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-07 12:28:21Z
ah using twmap?
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so not in the client
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yes, .py file(
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i'm not that pro in code, to make it in game))
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-07 12:29:12Z
ok nice maybe there is some hope left for my map :D
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There will always be hope, but... what if i learn AI on parts and AI will do parts, then connect it and do a level...... No) It's too hard, i'll leave that to others :)
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-07 12:31:49Z
if someone does that im literally gonna cry
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because then there is no chance my map gets ever released
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the thing you build is not that hard to integrate into the client i thought about adding it a few weeks ago but then was too lazy
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I believe in you! A little work every day and everything will work out!
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-07 12:33:32Z
anyways cool project
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@Learath2
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xddd
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chillerdragon
the thing you build is not that hard to integrate into the client i thought about adding it a few weeks ago but then was too lazy
and add replaceing choosed block with other choosed block :)
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-07 12:34:02Z
so nice to see how Patiga's twmap lib empowers users to build something! Users who otherwise would have not touched c++
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-07 12:34:09Z
@Patiga
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its lowercase
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-07 12:34:44Z
@patiga
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chillerdragon
so nice to see how Patiga's twmap lib empowers users to build something! Users who otherwise would have not touched c++
yes! twmap is beautiful :D
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-07 12:35:51Z
i build something similar
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i did auto tiler
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Tool for mappers that like to map with gametiles first. It generates tiles based on gametiles so the opposite of what "Game Tiles" button does in the editor. - GitHub - ChillerDra...
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combined with yours its just a matter of moving the mouse randomly on the screen and you have a gores map xd
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wow! that automap, but inversed) it's so usefull programm
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-07 12:37:45Z
yea
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A map generator made in Rust using twmap. Contribute to edg-l/ddnet-map-gen development by creating an account on GitHub.
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using twmap
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heh, nice
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-07 12:39:08Z
is any feature already complete of it?
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the 2 map types
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Maze map generator. Fly map generator.
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Hmmm, what if i do seamless mini-parts and combie it randomly in programm...
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-07 12:43:47Z
fly is basically gores
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shit
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fly is hammerfly
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chillerdragon BOT 2023-09-07 12:46:15Z
a
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1000x1000
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not rly smart yet xd
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this maze is solvable
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ddnet-map-gen --seed "chiller" --mapres ~/data/ddnet/build/data/mapres/ maze
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why is there like a visible pattern
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zoom out stuff
12:52
i need to improve this
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it would be cool if this was good enough that ddnet can have a special server
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"random new map a day"
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for the luls
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twmap + blender = help me
poggers 6
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Ryozuki
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Rust moment
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Ravie
twmap + blender = help me
holy shit
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chillerdragon
@patiga
U still didn't Tag btw, nobodragores
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Love that kog :) from buildlevel(['R', 'R', 'RD', 'DL', 'LD', 'D', 'DR', 'RD', 'D', 'DR', 'RU', 'UR', 'RD', 'D', 'D', 'D', 'D', 'DL', 'LU', 'U', 'UL', 'L', 'LU', 'UR', 'R', 'R']) that:
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Ravie
twmap + blender = help me
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louis
Click to see attachment 🖼️
can do that
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@Ravie can u play a movie in a map
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Ryozuki
@Ravie can u play a movie in a map
technically yes but I don't think the game would like it justatest
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when are we going to have ai generated maps
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daily ai generated maps
15:52
can't be any worse than 95% of oldschool and 50% of ddmax
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Nik_Hard
Love that kog :) from buildlevel(['R', 'R', 'RD', 'DL', 'LD', 'D', 'DR', 'RD', 'D', 'DR', 'RU', 'UR', 'RD', 'D', 'D', 'D', 'D', 'DL', 'LU', 'U', 'UL', 'L', 'LU', 'UR', 'R', 'R']) that:
Now make it 100% automatic
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Procedurally generated kog
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I wanna do this :3
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No, i'll do this!!!
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Nik_Hard
Love that kog :) from buildlevel(['R', 'R', 'RD', 'DL', 'LD', 'D', 'DR', 'RD', 'D', 'DR', 'RU', 'UR', 'RD', 'D', 'D', 'D', 'D', 'DL', 'LU', 'U', 'UL', 'L', 'LU', 'UR', 'R', 'R']) that:
now code full-featured external map editor for ddnet (edited)
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Maybe command line map editor?
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Vim for ddnet
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"maximum productivity"
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Ai would also be nice
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We have the technology i guess
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humans rule 💪
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It's just that no one cares about generating ddnet maps
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u can't just "generate" a good map
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Maybe it is possible
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Creative work is easy to automate it turns out lol
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AIs are not capacible of creativity
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AI's art is more like a screenshot of the image you imagine in your head
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AI doesn't actually paint it with brushes
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which is very obvious
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It's pretty good tho if you have a human using it
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yeah... but anyways there is no point in using AI generated stuff imo
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Money?
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^ other that that of course
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using AI for creative stuff kinda destroys the spirit of it
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but i'd be cool anyways if you made YOUR own AI thats capacibe of doing that
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That's really hard to do
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especially without 2000 gpus
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That's why we need more research on ai
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So it's cheaper to produce
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the brain being analog is what makes it so good
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but we try to bruteforce it with digital
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analog is rly nice for "floating" point values
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while digital not
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that's another reason i don't like AI stuff, it's either useless (because your machine is not capacible of training complex AI) or it's private/paid
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and analog works bettet with error margins or some stuff
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You can have analog computers
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there is also a thing called "TPU"
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nice video btw
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which stands for tensor processing unit i think
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Ar1gin
that's another reason i don't like AI stuff, it's either useless (because your machine is not capacible of training complex AI) or it's private/paid
its certainly not useless
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I think we need an ai capable of doing research on ai
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but what consumers see is just chatgpt
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protein folding again
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xd
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its specially good for knowing answers to hard to calculate stuff
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Ryozuki
but what consumers see is just chatgpt
making chatgpt public was a mistake, dumb people are getting even more dumb
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If a brain can be so small and so capable a computer can do that too
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We just haven't figured out how to do that yet
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i remember our team was given a case to solve and one of our economists used GPT to calculate math stuff, and you know what? 2 days before presentation i redid maths, just to be sure and like... the answers chatGPT gave weren't even close...
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GPT on its own is bad at math
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But GPT models can use tools
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yeah, believe or not, he tried to calulate inflation costs with it which is something something expontial equation
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for me chatgpt is good if you don't know anything in the topic you are asking about, but any person that researched that topic will just laugh at it's answers (edited)
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it's designed to generate convincing sentences, not provide correct information
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Maybe gpt 5 is gonna be more trustworthy
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Ravie
it's designed to generate convincing sentences, not provide correct information
hi ravie, u japanese now????
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ni hao
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THATS CHINEESE!!!!
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Chatgpt can understand text so that's already huge
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"write me a short summary of this book" greenthing
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I am convinced current ai only uses 10% of its power lol
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We can make better hardware
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We can make better ai architectures
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We can get better training data
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Ar1gin
hi ravie, u japanese now????
atari mae da
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anime carries
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Jupstar ✪
atari mae da
sorry, im only half N4
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sodeska
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cyberFighter
why is there like a visible pattern
In mathematics, physics, and art, moiré patterns (UK: MWAR-ay, US: mwar-AY, French: [mwaʁe] ) or moiré fringes are large-scale interference patterns that can be produced when a partially opaque ruled pattern with transparent gaps is overlaid on another similar pattern. For the moiré interference pattern to appear, the two patterns must not be ...
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Ryozuki
but we try to bruteforce it with digital
because we know how to design digital computers
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it's way harder to do it with analog computers
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takes way more spaces and is more prone to error (although it could be a good thing for ai as you said)
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but one thing we can't do yet like the brain is rerouting neural network itself
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god are we talking about ai AGAIN
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@Ryozuki i better be meeting you at the rufus movie https://vxtwitter.com/Rufus87078959/status/1697994559047848107?s=20
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aye eye
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hi, today at work AI helped us out
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by making png into SVG and thus we stole 100€ (as in didnt pay for license)
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ofc it was all feasible without AI
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but who cares instead of 5 to 15 min job it was 1 minute!
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cant wait for AI, that would help me print money!
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Overlord
cant wait for AI, that would help me print money!
i love not paying my employees for their full benefit! i hope no one goes on strike because of it! 🤑
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i mean US workers dont even have real unions
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hi, would U pay 125€ for white text
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on brown "shield" like object
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with small red box?
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just so U can print it on paper?
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i bet if a human made it it would have looked better
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Ai is amazing
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It's not perfect
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But you have to accept it
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Every ai is beautiful in its own way
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i'll only accept it if it actually BENEFITS creativity instead of replacing it
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Voxel
i bet if a human made it it would have looked better
the only issue i noticed were few pixels of wrong color but could also be considered hardened border so i dont mind
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i could do that myself but i dont even have gimp at work
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+ it would be illegal!
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its still illegal, but atleast there's noone who violated the copyright lol
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Voxel
@Ryozuki i better be meeting you at the rufus movie https://vxtwitter.com/Rufus87078959/status/1697994559047848107?s=20
i heart princess jane
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pilonpl
Every ai is beautiful in its own way
not really, i tried 3 to change it from png to SVG and 3 were shit, but 4th was the charm
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Voxel
i'll only accept it if it actually BENEFITS creativity instead of replacing it
There is enough creativity for everyone 😊
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cant wait for this technology to go just tiny bit up so all anime girls can be in SVG
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Girls are the main motivation in AI research it turns out (edited)
kek 1
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replace this maps soundtrack with this https://ddnet.org/maps/Iris (edited)
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Headshot
went to a gokart course
went to a gokart course again
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IRL mario kart with powerups
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i was kart 4 :(
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pilonpl
Girls are the main motivation in AI research it turns out (edited)
gee i wonder why
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Soon you will be able to generate girls based on a real photo
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So idk if showing your face online is a good idea right now
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pilonpl
Soon you will be able to generate girls based on a real photo
why not just, meet up with a real girl?
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nah itll be used as a blackmail tool
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louis
nah itll be used as a blackmail tool
Nah real blackmail will lose its worth, because everything will be claimed as fake
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:41:39Z
i just type in like a link
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?
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮
i just type in like a link
yeah literally what i told u
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put your default gateway into google chrome
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Blade
yeah literally what i told u
☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:42:50Z
it says ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE
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OH
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮
it says ERR_ADDRESS_UNREACHABLE
yeah, use default gateway
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:43:08Z
default gateway
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this shit will be obvious once u spend hours hating yourself trying to make a minecraft server
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:43:59Z
it says the password in the link?
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ye boiii
20:44
time to raid your parents bedroom
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:44:11Z
oh
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lol
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the password is on the back of the router
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:44:23Z
wait
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:44:42Z
the router is on the wall lol
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if its not a new router
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try the passwords i told u in #general
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:44:58Z
ok
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and the username?
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be aware you're about to hack your families wifi
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:45:47Z
any of these worked
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or none
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:45:55Z
none
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:46:01Z
im brazilian
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admin , user admin, password
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dont work?
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without the , ofc
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:46:28Z
nop
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ok i forgot we're living in 2023
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there is probably a more advanced password
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it will be on the back of the router
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take a picture with flash and get the fuck out of there
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:47:47Z
lollol
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i really wont make a ddrace server so fast
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ok so tomorrow ask your parents for the password
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:48:28Z
of the wifi?
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no for the default gateway in your internet browser
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:48:49Z
they dont know
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its on the router
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:49:01Z
wait
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im just gonna search it
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search what
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only way to get your password is take the router off the wall and take a picture of the manufactuter sticker
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:49:51Z
yeah im not gonna do that
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so
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if its not the basic passwords i told you
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then its on the router
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:50:02Z
im just f4cked?
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you can use hamachi if its just for a friend
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but dont use hamachi for strangers because if they're weird they can get deep into your internet
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:51:34Z
i would be so happy if there was a network in hamachi just for ddrace
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by the way, why dont you just open a "trashmap server" or a "test server" it is password protected and allows you and your friends (i think up to 8 or 16 people) to join a private server
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you can upload any map you want
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https://trashmap.ddnet.org/ @☮ KuronikeBlue ☮
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 20:52:59Z
oh
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that was what i was searching before
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someone has a good texture?
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anyone here play starfield? i was thinking of buying a cheap xbox just to play that game and maybe cyberpunk
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its less than 500€ and if i would build a PC it would cost 1.5K euro
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but i've been a pc player all my life so idk if i can even use a controller lmao
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Heard the loading times are extremely annoying on xbox
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Learath2
Heard the loading times are extremely annoying on xbox
thanks for the input
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That is for starfield btw, not general for xbox
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Learath2
That is for starfield btw, not general for xbox
well i mean the xbox S is the cheaper option, so i would imagine it will be slow. Of course I wish for a 1337 PC but the cheaper option always appeals
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Huh, I got my series x for 500e, I thought that's what you meant
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Learath2
Huh, I got my series x for 500e, I thought that's what you meant
yeah i've seen a deal for like 450€ for a series s with starfield premium
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Blade
but i've been a pc player all my life so idk if i can even use a controller lmao
Weren’t u the guy that played ddrace on controller
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Iza
Weren’t u the guy that played ddrace on controller
holy SHIT that's good memory
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Iza
Weren’t u the guy that played ddrace on controller
it was when i broke my collar bone and only had one arm working
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I was bored as fuck for 4 months so learnt how to play ddnet with a controller xd
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 23:23:17Z
WHY NO ONE GIVES BLADE A HELPER CHARGE (edited)
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮
WHY NO ONE GIVES BLADE A HELPER CHARGE (edited)
They don't even have a role kek
23:24
They just trying to help
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 23:24:34Z
why people dont give these people a special charge
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for the most cool person in this server
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i think
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cuz melon is cool too
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hi
☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 23:25:46Z
lets play TOGETHER what country and server are you in
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blade could have a salary
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im usa
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im usa
☮ KuronikeBlue ☮ 2023-09-07 23:26:17Z
k im entering
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☮ KuronikeBlue ☮
blade could have a salary
i have no idea who u are and i do not need extra money, my mother pays for all of my bills and brings me food in bed
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