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Has anyone here

12:48

Used minoxidilum

12:49

Or in short what people call the only working thing for hair loss

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As im hovering between embracing baldness fully or this

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As turkey"s hair transplant dont seem worth the hassle (or any other hair transplants)

Overlord

Or in short what people call the only working thing for hair loss

There is also finasteride

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Overlord

Or in short what people call the only working thing for hair loss

Topical minoxidil only works for about 40% of people and it will not stop hair loss it will only grow new hair

16:20

Finasteride will stop or slow hair loss but usually will not regrow any

16:20

You can also get dutasteride which does the same thing as finasteride but better

16:22

On dustasteride you will probably completely stop balding and probably get regrowth, though full results take about 15 months

16:22

You can get a prescription for oral minoxidil which works for most men but on oral or topical you have to be aware there will be a shedding phase in the first couple of months

Finasteride is plagued with side-effects though, some people don't get any but you can get unlucky

funman

You can get a prescription for oral minoxidil which works for most men but on oral or topical you have to be aware there will be a shedding phase in the first couple of months

my only question is, will we be back to point 0 or worse, after i stop taking it? (like after 12 months )

16:41

because if it's temporary, as in it will regrow the hair, but only if U keep using it forever, then embracing baldness is just better?

Learath2

Finasteride is plagued with side-effects though, some people don't get any but you can get unlucky

That’s really not true it’s probably the most worried about medication. 4% of people get impotence which will go away after stopping it

Overlord

my only question is, will we be back to point 0 or worse, after i stop taking it? (like after 12 months )

So if you stop taking it you would grow back any shedded hair over time

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But you will lose over time any hair you gained on it

16:43

Also it doesn’t stop balding so you will still have a years worth of balding which will catch up to you after you stop taking it

thanks :/

funman

That’s really not true it’s probably the most worried about medication. 4% of people get impotence which will go away after stopping it

I mean as far as side effects go 4% isn't that low, but I guess you can say that "it's not really true" for some metric

Well you said it’s plagued with side effects

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Which I said isn’t really true

16:46

There is like one side effect and it goes away if you stop taking it

aside from rash, and other such things, what are side effects of minoxidil?

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cuz i didnt find* any (aside from intense alergic reactions) (edited)

Minoxidil has way more side effects than fonasteride

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It can cause cardiac problems

ach yes it was mentioned that if U take any heart medication U cant take that one

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well i guess, i will just go bald

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only hard point imo is finding the moment between "that's it" where U shave entire head

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because it's still somewhat passable rn (i mean random strangers are laughing but thats it)

Idk for me I am on dutasteride about to start oral minoxidil

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And I have no complaints whatsoever

for how long, have U been taking it?

funman

There is like one side effect and it goes away if you stop taking it

fwiw "it goes away if you stop taking it" is an active debate, but yes maybe "plagued" wasn't the right word, I'm just saying it's a concern as with any hormonal drug

it's like 2 months the fastest possible result, some after half a year?

Learath2

fwiw "it goes away if you stop taking it" is an active debate, but yes maybe "plagued" wasn't the right word, I'm just saying it's a concern as with any hormonal drug

Well most doctors seem to agree that pfs isn’t real

Learath2

fwiw "it goes away if you stop taking it" is an active debate, but yes maybe "plagued" wasn't the right word, I'm just saying it's a concern as with any hormonal drug

it's incredible how potent is skin, in absoprtion of chemicals, and here people thought they're waterproof heh

Overlord

it's like 2 months the fastest possible result, some after half a year?

So I have been taking dutasteride for about 3 months now and it really stopped my hair loss and I’m noticing new hairs starting to grow in

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Full results take 15 months

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Minoxidil results usually take 5 months

funman

So I have been taking dutasteride for about 3 months now and it really stopped my hair loss and I’m noticing new hairs starting to grow in

btw, i read that with minoxidil, if U accidently touch other parts, they will grow hair too, U take oral dutasteride?

So I’ll let you know how that goes

Overlord

btw, i read that with minoxidil, if U accidently touch other parts, they will grow hair too, U take oral dutasteride?

Well you can wash it off and it won’t cause permanent hair growth anyways

16:51

But even topical minoxidil is absorbed systemically and will cause some degree of hair growth everywhere

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Overlord

btw, i read that with minoxidil, if U accidently touch other parts, they will grow hair too, U take oral dutasteride?

Yeah I’m on .5 mg daily

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About to start 2.5 mg oral minoxidil daily

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I stopped using topical minoxidil a long time ago because I really disliked the dandruff it gave me

wait 2.5mg is nearly nothing, if i remember correctly from what i read at work, the topical one has 50mg in 0.1ml

No it’s %5 by weight

funman

I stopped using topical minoxidil a long time ago because I really disliked the dandruff it gave me

ach yes that and i read people either have too dry skin or their hair get super oily

One ml is gram

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1 gram

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So 50 mg per ml

should 2 ml be a gram? loxon 5% is mostly what i read on

Overlord

ach yes that and i read people either have too dry skin or their hair get super oily

Yeah was not worth it for me at all

ach right U're right

Overlord

should 2 ml be a gram? loxon 5% is mostly what i read on

Well water is 1 ml equals 1 gram

16:54

Alcohol weighs about the same as water

50mg per ml, it's stupid reseller on website where U buy stuff over internet that made the 0.1 and it somewhat stuck with me

But think how much is wasted when used topically

16:55

2.5 mg is orally is stronger than the 1 ml topically

or i read wrong and im stupid, because they might have said one application is 0.1 and to do 10 for 1ml, well that topic aside, do U plan taking it for rest of Ur life?

Yeah I will

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Quite cheap here

because the overall cost for just topical one here is 10euro a month

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and i think hair transplant is 2k euro

Overlord

because the overall cost for just topical one here is 10euro a month

In USA you can get 3 months oral minoxidil for $15

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Idk if it would be more expensive in your country

€

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finally keyboard works!

funman

In USA you can get 3 months oral minoxidil for $15

no idea about oral i only looked up on topical

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either way i went to buy it today, but apparently local drug store has twice the price of online, so i held myself

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and started to wonder if it's more of a permanent thing but since it's not, kinda pointless imo

The problem with topical is only 40% of men have the enzyme in their scalp to activate it

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And you would have to wait months to figure out if that’s you

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Oral is activated in the liver so it works for most men

true + the process of putting it on, and not breathing it, then having dirty head for entire day and entire night

But I wouldn’t recommend oral because way more side effects

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I’m only going to start it because it makes a lot of sense for me

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I have high ish blood pressure anyways

do U ever drink tho? wont it interfere with one another?

I do drink yeah

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The fear is that minoxidil lowers blood pressure and so does drinking

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But as I said I’m close to having high blood pressure anyways

how much is hair transplant in US?

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also it's less or more invasive? but for sure its more premanent

But minoxidil also lower systemic inflammation so that will help with my other problems as well

Overlord

how much is hair transplant in US?

Way more than Turkey

17:03

Haven’t looked into it tho

Overlord

also it's less or more invasive? but for sure its more premanent

Don’t get a hair transplant unless you are going to start finasteride

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Because what will happen is you will keep balding and the only hairs left are the transplanted ones

well do what they always say in US / EU jokes, fly to Europe for vacation, get the transplant, and have money left over for holidays

Overlord

well do what they always say in US / EU jokes, fly to Europe for vacation, get the transplant, and have money left over for holidays

I mean it’s a great deal in Turkey they literally pay for everything except flight for 2k

well for the flight back U could travel over europe by car / train, and then get to US by ship, tho it would probably be more costly than plane, and would take a lot of time

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but kinda life adventure, along super hurting scalp

I have no interest in getting a hair transplant myself

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This is how I currently look

U should delete it before the weird people come

funman

Because what will happen is you will keep balding and the only hairs left are the transplanted ones

Then you get more transplanted, contribute to the turkish economy so we don't starve

(even tho they consider me weird)

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either way, i started balding at 17 or 18, but slowly as in i kinda had Ur situation (hair from back of the head was long enough to be in front

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but now it's like in that meme, where only a bit of middle hair is left, and it's disappearing on the back of torso

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Overlord

U should delete it before the weird people come

Idc if people know what I look like

Learath2

Then you get more transplanted, contribute to the turkish economy so we don't starve

Unfortunately I don’t even have 2k right anyways

if i sold my motorcycle, (that i nearly got killed on today by some old granny) i would have exactly for transplant, and maybe half the trip

funman

Unfortunately I don’t even have 2k right anyways

Yeah, I'm just kidding, finasteride and minoxidil works, why bother with a transplant

Yeah exactly

Learath2

Yeah, I'm just kidding, finasteride and minoxidil works, why bother with a transplant

maybe, because if he ever falls in a coma, and then wakes up, he will wake up bald!

I would love to visit Turkey some day tho

tho i think that will be the least of problems

Overlord

maybe, because if he ever falls in a coma, and then wakes up, he will wake up bald!

It would have to be a long coma since dutasteride lasts in you system for months

funman

I would love to visit Turkey some day tho

Currently we have amazing price-performance ratio for vacations, you can live like a king for a week or two for practically nothing

And you pick up where you left off in terms of balding

Learath2

Currently we have amazing price-performance ratio for vacations, you can live like a king for a week or two for practically nothing

Maybe I’ll save up for the summer once I’ve graduated college

Learath2

Currently we have amazing price-performance ratio for vacations, you can live like a king for a week or two for practically nothing

if retirement system in my country doesnt fall by then (and it should) i will move there, granted U guys keep things as cheap as now!

funman

Maybe I’ll save up for the summer once I’ve graduated college

I guess the flight from US to Turkey would be the horrible part, flights have gotten so awful

Yeah it would be so expensive

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But you have to expect that traveling anywhere

Overlord

if retirement system in my country doesnt fall by then (and it should) i will move there, granted U guys keep things as cheap as now!

Dw, we seem to have our minds set on keeping the economy in shambles

Learath2

Dw, we seem to have our minds set on keeping the economy in shambles

should i thank god, erdogan, or people?

All 3

uff Thank God Erdogan, and his people

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stress leads to more balding, but i read there's huge delay on that, like few months

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so soon I will look like Ur regular teacher at school!

Learath2

All 3

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funman

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what that meme didnt go like that!

It’s funnier this way

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